The internet is already mostly bots talking to bots. Now it will be AI talking to AI and training on the shit the feed each other. An AI "human centipede" situation.
Last time I went to a reddit thread because of a search for some arcane information, I found it disgusting how many of the comments were OBVIOUSLY bots. I even checked a few comment histories just to be sure.
Last night I got a wild hair and decided to search for ergonomic gaming mice. Most of the top results were to Reddit - and holy shit is it bad. I swear half the comments were in the same format like:
"As a 39 year old engineer who likes X and Y, I like the blah blah blah".
Wow, that is fascinating! As a 37 year old web surfer, I personally would never browse Reddit without using the latest version of Google Chrome™ as my browser of choice. No other browser comes close.
Logitech G502 is an awesome wired mouse, and the Mx Master 2S is the best mouse I've ever had. Both are worth considering. Both have a wheel that can free spin if you want, which is nicer than you might initially think. The master has a lot of cool shit it does, and has shockingly low latency for a wireless mouse.
Razer Deathadders are extremely popular, but just know that Razer peripherals have (or used to have) high failure rates. I had 2 different adders that failed under normal use in about a year before I ended up with the Logitech options I mentioned above. Had both Logitech mice for several years - no issues.
Thanks! Yeah I have a Logitech G500s and a Razer Basilisk V3 X Hyper speed right now. After using my computer for a while, my wrist gets uncomfortable. I'm thinking of moving to a vertical mouse. Maybe a Keychron M5 or a Logitech MX Vertical.
We have similar tastes in mice. I have a bunch of variants of the MX Master mice, some from old jobs, some I purchased outright. The full sized clicker variant is my favorite. I can't vibe with the soft-click buttons like I can with the clickies. They're all decent mice though and work well under Linux and even Android. I have a very similar Logitech (but including wireless) and it's great for gaming. I remapped the forward and backward keys to raise and lower DPI using a Linux tool (I forget what it was, probably Piper). Now it's perfect. I don't see myself buying a mouse for quite some time.
I haven't been crazy about Razer stuff. Had a keyboard die and a mouse that was meh.
Tl:dr the user above me is right and knows their mice!
The high failure rates of both Razer and recently Logitech made me try the Razer Basilisk with the optical switches. So far so good on multiclick failures, and it works fine without Razer's garbage software. It's a 502 knockoff ergonomically, so its also got that going for it.
I just with someone would recreate the G701 with optical or hall switches, and a decent battery life.
im gonna disagree with mx master. the wheel thingy was not useful to me and the overall quality fkr the price was not what i had hoped for-- controversial take, i know, but logitech aint what they used to be.
i ended up with the hyperx haste, the one with a bunch of 'speed holes' in it (just looked it up, looks like they updated the model number and removed the holes. a step backward imo). i originally got it with a view towards carrying it with my laptop, which worked very well. i found however thay i wasnt actually compromising anything, so that when i lost the 2.4ghz dongle (dont lose the dongle) i just ordered a new one (theyre a fair price especially compared to logi branding) and plugged the old one into my desktop as a wired mouse and im very happy with it as a daily driver in both roles. great battery life, no noticeable latency on the wireless, and the holes keep my hand from getting sweaty xD. also while theres rgb, its not obnoxious and fairly easy and relatively noninvasive to turn it off-- a lightweight (windows) program that doesnt harvest data. i have it shine a blue light at the minimum possible brightness just so i can tell if its on. lasts 3ish months on a charge, using it 3 or 4 days a week for several hours at a time. basically a whole semester.
overall a great product at a fair price and i recommend it.
weirdly, the best mouse I've used is perixx mx-2000
the newer years aren't as good as my older one (now like a decade old if not more), but they're still more comfortable than any other mice I've tried. which I find weird because it's all sharp edges and stuff. but it just works for me. and I do have RSI issues
I also find it's the mouse where I had to reposition my hand the least. I'm currently using some razer mouse I think, and I've tried a bunch of other ones, and all of them have smooth surfaces where I find I lose my grip and it's like anti ergonomic because of it. whereas the perixx had a nice sharp edge that I could very lightly hold on to
I've got an older mouse too that you could add weights to like that. Was nice feeling like your mouse was substantial. Now most mice are made with as little material as possible and they sell that as a bonus of being ultra light weight. I hate how they feel!
Like 5-10 years ago there was a "subreddit simulator" which would generate fake reddit posts generated from specific subreddits. It was almost entirely garbage, but that time the /r/askreddit simulator posted "Redditors of reddit, what's the biggest mistake my mom makes in bed?" probably justified that whole endeavor. Such a perfect encapsulation of the content.
There have been a few over time. It originally started out as a project to test some new Reddit features with fake users, using Markov/GPT-2 bots, and then it became funny enough to let users see.
Okay, that's hilarious. But I had to do a double-take when it dawned on me that AI has indeed been with us for nearly 5 years now...
I remember in 2021 there was all the buzz about "AI is already here, it's just extremely flawed still and not even close to ready for use. The government needs to regulate it before some idiotic businessmen do something stupid with it."
And then the attempted legislation got shot down because it would ostensibly "hamper innovation," and then the first commercial LLMs hit the scene and then everybody lost their minds.
Except if the AI companies get what they want, and age/id verification goes through globally as seemingly planned, and they get a convenient "this is safe to train on" stamp on all their data.
The death of online privacy for most/all, better training for the models they use to manipulate public opinion, easier protection against scrapers (can't have your competitors stealing the things you've stolen first) and a sweet deal for the advertisers that can rest easy knowing their ads are shown to real people.
I have also seen it used as the indicator for a summary like I have done below. As in the person knows what they wrote was too long for some people so here is a short version too. Similarly I have seen TL;DW to indicate a video summary.
it’s true (honestly what you said is what i’ve seen the most), and i’ve seen it as a way to ask for a summary as well (replying to a long post with "tl;dr?")
but i don’t really see both of those as relevant to ai;dr tbh, so i didn’t mention them
It's derived from tl;dr, which is Too Long; Didn't Read. It's not instruction telling you to ignore it, it's an abbreviated way of saying, "I recognize this as AI slop that I'm not going to waste my time reading."
Plus commenting any of that is providing engagement and therefore increasing the reach the post will have. Ignore and report, even bullshit reports since nobody offers a "this is ai, get this cancer off this platform" button are the best ways to respond.
When I first read this I misunderstood it to mean "too long so I used ai to summarize it"... So maybe that potential to misunderstand is a counterargument to its use.
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KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca · 100 pts · 152d
Valid, however as AI advances I'm worried they will iron out its telltale signs. Thus poisoning the well on all online discourse.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 80 pts · 152d
That is the plan, yeah.
cRazi_man@europe.pub · 45 pts · 152d
The internet is already mostly bots talking to bots. Now it will be AI talking to AI and training on the shit the feed each other. An AI "human centipede" situation.
homes@piefed.world · 18 pts · 152d
Will this lead to AI data center shootings? Wherein AI drones go into other data centers and start shooting up the place?
I’d call this macabre, but nothing value would be lost.
Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 152d
Not nothing; RAM Other than that though...
homes@piefed.world · 5 pts · 152d
Not my precious DIMMs!
leoj@piefed.social · 3 pts · 152d
don't worry we will save our rgb blessed children.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 151d
Iran has been threatening to blow up data centers. Stop teasing me, you crazy bastards!
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 151d
PLEASE let them go ahead 🙏🙏🙏
NannerBanner@literature.cafe · 8 pts · 152d
Last time I went to a reddit thread because of a search for some arcane information, I found it disgusting how many of the comments were OBVIOUSLY bots. I even checked a few comment histories just to be sure.
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 152d
Last night I got a wild hair and decided to search for ergonomic gaming mice. Most of the top results were to Reddit - and holy shit is it bad. I swear half the comments were in the same format like:
"As a 39 year old engineer who likes X and Y, I like the blah blah blah".
zikzak025@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 152d
Wow, that is fascinating! As a 37 year old web surfer, I personally would never browse Reddit without using the latest version of Google Chrome™ as my browser of choice. No other browser comes close.
(This comment was definitely not posted by a bot)
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 152d
"I'm 37!"
"What?"
"I'm 37, I'm not old."
"Well I couldn't just call you 'man,' now could I?"
"You could've called me Dennis."
"I didn't know you were called Dennis!"
"Well you didn't bother to ask, now did you?"
"Look, can you please just tell me who lives in that castle?"
Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 152d
Logitech G502 is an awesome wired mouse, and the Mx Master 2S is the best mouse I've ever had. Both are worth considering. Both have a wheel that can free spin if you want, which is nicer than you might initially think. The master has a lot of cool shit it does, and has shockingly low latency for a wireless mouse.
Razer Deathadders are extremely popular, but just know that Razer peripherals have (or used to have) high failure rates. I had 2 different adders that failed under normal use in about a year before I ended up with the Logitech options I mentioned above. Had both Logitech mice for several years - no issues.
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 152d
Thanks! Yeah I have a Logitech G500s and a Razer Basilisk V3 X Hyper speed right now. After using my computer for a while, my wrist gets uncomfortable. I'm thinking of moving to a vertical mouse. Maybe a Keychron M5 or a Logitech MX Vertical.
njordomir@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 151d
We have similar tastes in mice. I have a bunch of variants of the MX Master mice, some from old jobs, some I purchased outright. The full sized clicker variant is my favorite. I can't vibe with the soft-click buttons like I can with the clickies. They're all decent mice though and work well under Linux and even Android. I have a very similar Logitech (but including wireless) and it's great for gaming. I remapped the forward and backward keys to raise and lower DPI using a Linux tool (I forget what it was, probably Piper). Now it's perfect. I don't see myself buying a mouse for quite some time.
I haven't been crazy about Razer stuff. Had a keyboard die and a mouse that was meh.
Tl:dr the user above me is right and knows their mice!
Narauko@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 151d
The high failure rates of both Razer and recently Logitech made me try the Razer Basilisk with the optical switches. So far so good on multiclick failures, and it works fine without Razer's garbage software. It's a 502 knockoff ergonomically, so its also got that going for it.
I just with someone would recreate the G701 with optical or hall switches, and a decent battery life.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 152d
If you're still searching, razer and corsair both seem to have good options in various styles and spanning different price ranges.
They're not the only options out there of course, but they're what I narrowed my choices down to when I was looking not that long ago.
Akko also has one that looks nice if you want something simple without all the extra inputs, but a high DPI/polling rate.
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 152d
Thanks!
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 152d
No problem!
BussyGyatt@feddit.org · 2 pts · 151d
im gonna disagree with mx master. the wheel thingy was not useful to me and the overall quality fkr the price was not what i had hoped for-- controversial take, i know, but logitech aint what they used to be.
i ended up with the hyperx haste, the one with a bunch of 'speed holes' in it (just looked it up, looks like they updated the model number and removed the holes. a step backward imo). i originally got it with a view towards carrying it with my laptop, which worked very well. i found however thay i wasnt actually compromising anything, so that when i lost the 2.4ghz dongle (dont lose the dongle) i just ordered a new one (theyre a fair price especially compared to logi branding) and plugged the old one into my desktop as a wired mouse and im very happy with it as a daily driver in both roles. great battery life, no noticeable latency on the wireless, and the holes keep my hand from getting sweaty xD. also while theres rgb, its not obnoxious and fairly easy and relatively noninvasive to turn it off-- a lightweight (windows) program that doesnt harvest data. i have it shine a blue light at the minimum possible brightness just so i can tell if its on. lasts 3ish months on a charge, using it 3 or 4 days a week for several hours at a time. basically a whole semester.
overall a great product at a fair price and i recommend it.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 152d
weirdly, the best mouse I've used is perixx mx-2000
the newer years aren't as good as my older one (now like a decade old if not more), but they're still more comfortable than any other mice I've tried. which I find weird because it's all sharp edges and stuff. but it just works for me. and I do have RSI issues
I also find it's the mouse where I had to reposition my hand the least. I'm currently using some razer mouse I think, and I've tried a bunch of other ones, and all of them have smooth surfaces where I find I lose my grip and it's like anti ergonomic because of it. whereas the perixx had a nice sharp edge that I could very lightly hold on to
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 151d
I've got an older mouse too that you could add weights to like that. Was nice feeling like your mouse was substantial. Now most mice are made with as little material as possible and they sell that as a bonus of being ultra light weight. I hate how they feel!
Zerush@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 152d
With the own social network Moltbook (Humans are welcome to observe)
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 152d
It would be an interesting experiment if it weren't such a waste of resources...
christian@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 152d
Like 5-10 years ago there was a "subreddit simulator" which would generate fake reddit posts generated from specific subreddits. It was almost entirely garbage, but that time the /r/askreddit simulator posted "Redditors of reddit, what's the biggest mistake my mom makes in bed?" probably justified that whole endeavor. Such a perfect encapsulation of the content.
T156@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 151d
There have been a few over time. It originally started out as a project to test some new Reddit features with fake users, using Markov/GPT-2 bots, and then it became funny enough to let users see.
Them calling themselves bots or coincidentally being unable to tell cats and dogs apart was also quite funny back in the day. (They didn't do any actual image recognition, it was just making links and a title.)
BussyGyatt@feddit.org · 1 pts · 151d
"my roomate kicked my dog so hard it died. AITAH if i ask them to apologize?"
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 151d
Okay, that's hilarious. But I had to do a double-take when it dawned on me that AI has indeed been with us for nearly 5 years now...
I remember in 2021 there was all the buzz about "AI is already here, it's just extremely flawed still and not even close to ready for use. The government needs to regulate it before some idiotic businessmen do something stupid with it."
And then the attempted legislation got shot down because it would ostensibly "hamper innovation," and then the first commercial LLMs hit the scene and then everybody lost their minds.
tuxed@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 151d
Except if the AI companies get what they want, and age/id verification goes through globally as seemingly planned, and they get a convenient "this is safe to train on" stamp on all their data.
The death of online privacy for most/all, better training for the models they use to manipulate public opinion, easier protection against scrapers (can't have your competitors stealing the things you've stolen first) and a sweet deal for the advertisers that can rest easy knowing their ads are shown to real people.
Yay.
sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub · 15 pts · 152d
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 151d
As far as I know, GPT loves using parallelism and can't be prompted out of it.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 152d
And then we will circle back to TL;DR because we can:t really tell whether this wall of text is written by human or AI.
thenextguy@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 152d
yt;dw YouTube, didn’t watch
cb;dc Clickbait, didn’t click
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu · 62 pts · 152d
ac;dc The only chords they know.
bstix@feddit.dk · 33 pts · 152d
Oi!!
The only chords they
knowneed.HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 152d
i'd aim that at the gin blossoms before acdc too. it took their guitarist 3 albums to learn a fourth chord
thenextguy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 152d
I’ll see you in hell, Pachelbel!
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 151d
He was trying something different!
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 151d
Yeah well look where it ended him up. o9
Please, I haven't looked them up in a while and I really should, I remember liking them. Why did I stop listening to them?
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 151d
There's a G in Highway To Hell, and Thunderstruck is almost entirely a B chord.
verkers_done@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 151d
🤣 it's funny because it's true!
jaredwhite@humansare.social · 62 pts · 152d
also ai;dw for slop videos 😄
Lexam@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 152d
Lol that's funny! I totally get it. But could someone explain the abbreviation for those that don't...
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 81 pts · 152d
it’s a variant on TL;DR (too long; didn’t read), which people post when what you wrote was too long for them to bother with
so the new one, AI;DR, means "what you posted is ai so i’m not going to bother to read it"
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 152d
I have also seen it used as the indicator for a summary like I have done below. As in the person knows what they wrote was too long for some people so here is a short version too. Similarly I have seen TL;DW to indicate a video summary.
TL;DR - Sometimes it’s used by OP.
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 152d
it’s true (honestly what you said is what i’ve seen the most), and i’ve seen it as a way to ask for a summary as well (replying to a long post with "tl;dr?")
but i don’t really see both of those as relevant to ai;dr tbh, so i didn’t mention them
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 152d
Or someone will ask for a tl;dr
Here I thought in OP’s case, they were requesting an ai summary.
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 152d
This is AI, Don't Read
scops@reddthat.com · 24 pts · 152d
It's derived from tl;dr, which is Too Long; Didn't Read. It's not instruction telling you to ignore it, it's an abbreviated way of saying, "I recognize this as AI slop that I'm not going to waste my time reading."
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 152d
That's what I said. Its a warning to others that it's AI and to not bother.
christian@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 152d
idk posting "ai;dr" as a reply is not functionally different from posting "ai" other than needing three more characters to type.
DillDough@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 152d
Plus commenting any of that is providing engagement and therefore increasing the reach the post will have. Ignore and report, even bullshit reports since nobody offers a "this is ai, get this cancer off this platform" button are the best ways to respond.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 152d
I think it's useful. it explicitly calls out that somebody didn't consume the content.
to you, that might be obvious. to others, not so much
imjustmsk@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 152d
its more cool duh
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 151d
Replying at all generates traction unfortunately. That's why there are so many hate channels, rage bait, fear mongering. It gets views and attention.
pianoplant@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 152d
When I first read this I misunderstood it to mean "too long so I used ai to summarize it"... So maybe that potential to misunderstand is a counterargument to its use.
Then again maybe I'm just dumb haha.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 151d
at;rq
Adopt that; right quick!