$400m White House Ballroom 'Essential' To Protect Donald Trump and First Family From Missile Attacks
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/trump-white-house-ballroom-security-controversy-1791339
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/trump-white-house-ballroom-security-controversy-1791339
87 Comments
mercano@lemmy.world · 129 pts · 129d
There was already a bunker under the East Wing. If Trump chose to bulldoze it, that’s his own doing.
4am@lemmy.zip · 57 pts · 129d
Yeah sounds like this is the perfect time for a missile attack. God damn he’s stupid
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 128d
lets see if it can withstand a MT warhead.
fartographer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 128d
Why would you launch a warhead with nothing in it? Like, it's completely mt?
ThisSeriesIsFalse@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 128d
They launched it from Big MT.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 127d
Don’t shoot the enemy when they’re beating themselves.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 128d
Look, there's got to be a rational explanation for this. Have you considered the old East Wing bunker might have just been haunted as all fuck? Who knows what horrible atrocities past presidents committed down in that dungeon! Who knows how many hookers Nixon tortured to death down there. How many old captured Nazis did Eisenhower personally flay alive in that basement? How many girls did Clinton simply have disappeared down there? That placed was probably cursed long before Trump got there. The only way to get the bad juju out was to completely tear it down to bare soil. It's no good as a defense bunker if you get torn apart by ghosts when you try to seek shelter there!
homes@piefed.world · 77 pts · 129d
well, now, I've never been more against it
Brkdncr@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 129d
Bunkers don’t need ballrooms.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 128d
Yeah build the bunker and put some grass on top
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 128d
The difference between a bunker and an oubliette is what the people on the outside decide to do with the entrance/exit.
Just make sure there's some amontillado inside.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 67 pts · 129d
As if we needed any further confirmation that the bunker beneath it was the actually important part of the project.
(Can we please ensure that the bunker is stocked with at least one Luger pistol? For tradition's sake.)
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 128d
Does Donald have aspirations of finally becoming a painter as well?
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 128d
Hopefully he is inspired to paint the wall of his bunker in bright red
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 129d
Give them a Nambo instead. They don't deserve the build quality of Luger.
GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 128d
Slow acting but irreversible poison.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 128d
Nah I want the thing to blow up in their hand. I'm more of a maim until they wish for death kinda guy. Then you can ensure they eat through a tube for years to come.
GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 128d
I like your style.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 127d
Ventilation, with an accessible shutoff. You know, for the safety of linesmen
andxz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 128d
The Nambu has a notoriously weak cartridge. With a skull like his he'd be liable to botch it badly and probably wake up with a full diaper and a headache.
Not sure if that'd be better or worse than the alternative really.
Also contrary to popular belief they're generally really well made unless it's an extremely late one. 8x22 is just really really weak.
mememuseum@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 128d
Hitler shot himself with a Walther PPK
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 42 pts · 129d
Sounds like quite the waste of money then.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 128d
"I can't be expected to live in this glass house. Not after all these rocks I've been throwing."
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 128d
Imagine being the poor bastards stuck in there with him. The smell alone ... !
CatZoomies@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 128d
Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 127d
Where air goes in so can poisonous gases, so you may be able to hide but any enemy could still Moscow Theatre siege your ass
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 128d
We'll have to demolish the rest of the White House just to get the stench out.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 128d
It won't even be started before Trump pops his clogs.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 127d
Fuck that. President starts a war that results in missiles falling on DC he can go down with the ship.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 129d
As if there aren't dozens of steps before another country strikes upon the U.S.
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 20 pts · 129d
He's not worried about another country. He's worried about a well-earned military coup.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 129d
Or civil war and/or federal dissolutionment, if those happened it's almost garunteed federal control of DC would fall almost immediately. He would need a bunker to hide in for possibly weeks in such a case. Assuming he isn't killed immediately.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 128d
So the bunker is deeper than that Iranian nuclear facility?
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 128d
If we're doing conspiracy theories maybe that's why he's using up all the good missiles
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 128d
Is he using up all the concrete too? More than one way to make a bunker someone's final resting place.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 128d
hes probably worried when the magat zombies finally turn on him,.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 128d
Will this $600m ballroom be finished before the end of president?
FatVegan@leminal.space · 26 pts · 128d
The 1.6 billion ballroom will probably not be finished, but the money is somehow gone.
skozzii@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 128d
I dunno, 2.2 billion for a ballroom seems like a great deal.
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 127d
Yeah, almost a steal at 3.6 billion. I can’t believe they got such a good deal. They’re practically saving trillions.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 127d
I’m sure the Trump family are comfortably provided for, somewhere in that $4.1B
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 127d
You've got to spend a trillion to save a trillion, so they say.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 128d
No,the 800 million dollar facility won't be finished in time for that
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 127d
Add the cost of ripping it up to the cost of restoring the white house for the next admin. Start with restoring the rose garden and getting the vegas decorations out.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 127d
Take it out of his fortune. Triple damages.
And that's just for starters. He's going to pay to rebuild Iran out of his own pocket.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 127d
And compensate the Epstein victims and/or their families (whichever applies).
Although he can share the bill with other Epstein collaborators and clients on that one. Nationalise their entire estate - or whatever similar procedure would make sense here.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 127d
I'd argue that Trump being hit by a missile attack would IMPROVE the USA national security.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 127d
Anyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size agrees
tal@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 129d
I don't think it matters much from a national security standpoint, specifically because of this:
We don't protect the President because the President is some sort of exceptional, irreplaceable figure. The President is just some guy. If Trump gets shot, then Vance gets dropped into the slot and things keep on trucking. Hell, personally I think that the US would very probably be better-off with just about any other major politician at the wheel.
We protect the President because we don't want it to be viable to coerce the President via physical threat. We don't want a country to say "do X on Policy Y or maybe we kill you" and have that be something that can affect the President's policy-making.
In this case, Trump decided that he was going to go right ahead and create the security risk, so he's probably not especially concerned about it. If he wanted it to stop, which presumably he would if he were worried about being killed, he could stop it. Ergo, cocercion isn't a factor.
If Trump decides tomorrow that he wants to go wingsuit BASE jumping or something, I mean, okay, sure, whatever. The Secret Service can just sit around and munch popcorn and watch him face-plant into a hillside, as far as I'm concerned. The problem isn't the President dying, but him being affected by threats of him being killed.
That's also why we have lifetime Secret Service protection for the President after he leaves office. It's not like he's being President then, not like we'd lose whatever he's bringing to the table. But you don't want other parties to be able to threaten the guy in office with retribution after he leaves office.
KissyCat@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 127d
I am seriously not the least bit concerned.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 128d
Maybe be the kind of person who doesn't fear people shooting missiles at them.
krashmo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 128d
If I had access to a missile I would have fired it at him long ago
SupraMario@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 128d
Build it, let him tour it, then lock it...and toss away the key
gramie@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 128d
Donald...I have a cask of very special wine I'd like you to try. It's an Amontillado. Do come down into the bunker and have a taste.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 128d
Aww, come on. Amontillado is fine, I love the classic approach. But it's just not appropriate for Trump. If you want to write Trump to have a poetic end, he needs to go out like Manius Aquillius. Maybe in a modern version, Trump in a bone-headed move decides to personally go to Tehran to pound his fist on the table and make his silly demands. The Iranians ultimately end up executing him by pouring molten gold down his throat to punish him for his greed.
tacoplease@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 128d
No, no, no. You have to tell him that your cask of Amontillado is far inferior to his cask of Amontillado and you want him to taste it so that he can tell you how great his cask is.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 127d
you guys are trying to protect them?
Maeve@kbin.earth · 4 pts · 127d
He's trying to protect himself, family and staff optional.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 128d
Maybe if you were decent person you could have not caused people to want to lob missiles at you.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 128d
Will it protect him from the Hauge?
tehn00bi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 127d
They have no power over here.
tehn00bi@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 127d
Leave it a fucking hole in the ground.
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 127d
He should move into the hole.
tehn00bi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 127d
I’d rather he get a burial at sea.
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 127d
Nah, Im not worried about missiles at all. Do it ... I dare you.
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 127d
You show the world how tough you are Donald. You're too manly to hide behind armor.
Redvenom@retrolemmy.com · 4 pts · 127d
The other option was for Him to stop being a douche but that is not possible
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 127d
Genetically impossible to do.
nonentity@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 127d
The Trump-Epstein Scrotum of Terra-Interred Security, or TESTIS.
Brummbaer@pawb.social · 3 pts · 128d
Reminds me of that Brecht quote.
Bertolt Brecht
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 127d
We could have a referendum on how important it is to taxpayers to protect Trump from missiles. Maybe a simultaneous one for shooting one at him.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 128d
Not that I give trump credit for any kind of forward thinking, but could this plan been made by someone smarter than him to bulldoze the current bunker so that he could claim that taxpayers need to build a bunker at MaraLago?
Dragomus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 128d
Oh I have no doubt he's had a mar-a-lago bunker complex on his wishlist for a while now, useful for sorting stolen documents to make a buck off ... perhaps when 2028 looms closer and he is certain of an incoming win suddenly construction will begin at mar-a-lago ...
Ofcourse his trusted adage goes: "it's all paid for by private billionaire money, so it is mine to do with as I please, mine! My toys!"
dan1101@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 128d
I think the hamburgers are more likely to end him than missiles.
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 128d
A lot of us are hoping so.
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 128d
It’s kind of difficult to tell what is really going on with the ballroom. It could very well be that the government has planned an upgrade for years and Trumps ball room is the perfect cover, so he may or may not be “playing along”.
scutiger@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 128d
If that were the case, they wouldn't have just gone ahead and started bulldozing willy nilly. They could have at least said it was for security reinforcements on the White House "and we may as well build a ballroom at the same time."
I'm sure it was the opposite. Trump wanted a ballroom, and they figured while the White House is half blown up, they may as well build a bunker.
AA5B@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 127d
While it’s tempting to believe there has to be a plan, a strategy, someone must have thought this out, history of this administration proves otherwise. Over and over
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 128d
That is a possibility. Maybe it was something they had wanted to do, but it was a project mired in red tape and complexity? Like maybe they had planned to try to do it without demolishing the East Wing, trying to do it in place? Then Trump's like "fuck it, we'll do it live" and just orders the whole thing demolished to make it cheaper? IDK.
Jhex@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 128d
seeing these naive theories that scream "all I know came from TV", explains why we are now in the stupidest timeline
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 127d
Includes an EMP proof bar and a leaded shielded VIP room.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 127d
I think they ate the lead.
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 127d
Maybe we could reshape the ballroom to look like a bone spur?
green_goglin@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 128d
lmao horeshit
FatVegan@leminal.space · 2 pts · 128d
It would be a nice room to kill himself tbh
modus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 128d
Isn't that what Raven Rock is for?
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 1 pts · 128d
John Henry Eden's already claimed it.
heartpunk25@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 127d
Well how else will he wine and dine the new Iranian leaders?
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 128d