A police official in Arizona has been placed on administrative leave after showing up armed to a student-led protest and provoking an altercation that led to the arrest of a teenage girl. The officer told fellow police who arrived on the scene that he attended the students’ immigration rights protest with the intent of acting as an agent provocateur, according to a news report.
Dusten Mullen, a sergeant with the Phoenix Police Department, has been suspended with pay pending an internal review of his conduct at a protest at Hamilton High School in Chandler, Arizona, on January 30, according to Phoenix Police Chief Matthew Giordano.
“As law enforcement professionals, we are held to higher standards of conduct — both in and out of uniform,” Giordano said. “When we fall short, we must be accountable, and we will not tolerate actions which undermine the trust the community has placed in the Department.”
Fox 10 Phoenix, the outlet to first identify Mullen, reported that Mullen told Chandler Police Department officers on the scene that he was there in the hopes of getting a rise out of the kids that would then allow the local cops to cuff them.
102 Comments
ms_lane@lemmy.world · 179 pts · 124d
Bullshit. The officer isn't dead.
Alex Pretti is.
Carmakazi@piefed.social · 58 pts · 124d
We try to hold them to higher standards of conduct, and they gripe and rage and abuse and kill us for it. They strongarm our courts and our laws making sure their murderous boys' club isn't interfered with.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 124d
The dude got a paid vacation as a reward for this stunt...
Red_October@piefed.world · 127 pts · 124d
Suspended with pay. Motherfucker got a paid vacation for this.
ACAB.
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 39 pts · 124d
Paid vacation when his salary is well over 300k too
extremeboredom@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 124d
300k? Holy CRAP.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 36 pts · 124d
$340,000 and he claims to be working 80 hours every week (12 hours a day 7 day a week) yet still has time to go try and fight children on his 'time off.'
kreskin@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 124d
Its probably 26 hours a week paid at triple time for whatever crooked shenanigans police union BS reason. I bet this hero actually works more like 3 days a week for his 340k/year.
Virtvirt588@lemmy.world · -27 pts · 124d
Well, they are teenagers or simply highschool students, not children - atleast not this time. Let's focus on the situation at hand without throwing discriminatory remarks portraying infantilization.
extremeboredom@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 124d
Chill Matt Gaetz, chill
Virtvirt588@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 124d
In what way does this ad hominem have any relation to the inherent ageism and defiance to the definition which I have pointed out?
extremeboredom@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 124d
You can reply to Zombie's comment. Looking forward to your rebuttal.
Zombie@feddit.uk · 11 pts · 124d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_(law)
They were children. There is no need to adultify minors here.
Virtvirt588@lemmy.world · -12 pts · 124d
This conclusion doesn't follow the basic definition:
These where individuals past the pubertal age which is commonly stated as 13.
Only necessarily this paragraph relates to the scope. But as stated, minor is the word which should technically be used.
Isn't that essentially introducing straw men? The root point of this all was the word child not minor - as this is the correct term as you literally stated here.
Your proof doesn't necessarily state that these where children, rather that they where minors. Also that last sentence is completely out of loop, where did I state that they where adults? If you're going to throw made up accusations then do it somewhere else.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 124d
SOP. If you're at a protest and you see some guy in a fitted cap, underarmor, and steel toed boots, you better fucking believe your event is being surveilled and infiltrated.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 124d
Don’t forget the telltale sign: an out of place expensive diving watch.
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 124d
That's a union thing. Unions are a good thing, until they decide they need to protect their own over the good of the populace instead of just against capitalism.
hateisreality@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 124d
Any union that is a involved union busting shouldn't be a union, end police unions
Rivermoonwolf@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 124d
We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 124d
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 64 pts · 124d
As always, ACAB.
Why does it seem that police depts seemingly hire the dumbest fucks?
A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 124d
Because theyre built to attract bullies?
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 124d
Because they do higher the dumbest fucks.
Smart people tend to realize corruption is bad.
Zachariah@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 124d
hire
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 124d
No...
This is literally an example that some actually give a fuck:
The department didn't release it, but the cop who included that in their report 100% put their career if not life on the line to put that in their report and likely was pressured not to mention any of it.
The cops didn't release it, but that one cop putting it in a report is why it was there when journalists request the records.
It's wild so many people don't understand that immediately...
Like, can anyone explain how they thought this got in a police report if all cops supported this shit?
flandish@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 124d
They suspended him with pay. You are wrong in your assessment. ACAB. All the time. The quote from the pd is just marketing.
Schmoo@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 124d
Not only did they suspend him with pay, but he succeeded in doing what he set out to do, which was get a rise out of someone to give his fellow bastards an excuse to arrest them. The article states that his encounter led to an altercation resulting in a teenage girl being arrested.
Red_October@piefed.world · 11 pts · 124d
You're right, a cop writing a report that includes some evidence of bad faith behaviors from other cops proves it! Remember what they say, One bad apple is bad but the rest are probably totally fine!
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 124d
How do you think things would work out of good people gave up on any system and never tried to fix it from within?
Like, it seems painfully obvious...
But "give up and don't try" rarely gets the result we want. The fastest way to fix policing is for good people to become cops.
Red_October@piefed.world · 13 pts · 124d
Acting like one cop not burying evidence of blatant corruption means we should give cops a chance is hilarious.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 124d
Did you not notice how the cops didn't follow this guy's plan?
Like, they didn't go along with it then document. They didn't do it, and then still documented that's what he was trying to...
What more did you want the responding cops to do in this scenario?
Red_October@piefed.world · 6 pts · 124d
How about not give the guy who did it a paid vacation?
thejoker954@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 124d
That's not on the cops who actually called it out though. That's on their higher ups and the police union.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 124d
Pending an investigation where another cop has already documented his behavior and zero cops took part in his plan...
Like, he should absolutely be held without bail.
But are you seriously arguing being charged with a crime should result in immediate termination?
Are you aware that if found guilty that pay is almost always recouped?
Like...
That's how it should work.
I get being mad at cops in general, but this is legit a one in a million case where shit is happening exactly as it should. If you just want to blindless cir lejerk about how cops are pieces of shit as demographic, there's plenty of places where the article isn't about one single piece of shit and literally every other cop seemingly doing what they should.
Don't just blindly rage about shit, if you do you're fall for a charismatic twitch streamer who just wants eyeballs and views.
If you're mad (and we should all be) at least be productive
BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 124d
They arrested a teenager, they did follow this guy's plan. No one, including the guy that reported it, prevented the teenager from getting arrested.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 124d
...
Is the problem arthimitic or critical thinking?
athatet@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 124d
They stop being good people once they become a cop.
Linktank@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 124d
How many good cops does it take to change a light bulb? 💡
::: spoiler spoiler I'll let you know when a good cop changes anything. :::
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe · 8 pts · 124d
Doing his job reporting a crime that points at profound corruption is the bare minimum and doesn't disprove ACAB.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 124d
If they were all bastards, why did none of them go along with the plan?
Like. 99% are bastards sure, but this is a rare case of some cops doing the right thing.
People not being able to understand that is very very concerning.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 124d
ACAB is pithy and simple. It's the kind of messaging that appeals to base instinct. The kind of messaging the right does well and the left always laments we don't do. Except the left is the party of thoughtful nuance and not mindless outage. That simplistic messaging doesn't work because life isn't simple no matter how comforting it is to imagine so.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 124d
Very possible that they just filed it all on reflex because nobody really thought hard about what they were putting in the record. Cops are both evil and stupid. Sometimes they just do stupid shit, thinking they'll never get caught.
That said, maybe someone actually did the right thing here. And maybe that's why it is a news article getting passed around the back alleys of social media, rather than a conspiracy theory whispered at DSA meet ups.
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · -4 pts · 124d
Ofc it's not all cops, the same as not all men are rapists or paedophiles. But it's enough cops and enough men that it is a massive issue.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 124d
What do you think "ACAB" means?
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · -6 pts · 124d
Jfc. C'mon now. Use that brain of yours.
Headofthebored@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 124d
There were no good slave catchers. There are no good cops. I understand you have faith in people, but do not apply it to an institution, an institution that exists to oppress you. Anyone who becomes a police officer, regardless of their moral intentions, serves the interests of the ruling class.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 124d
Literally the only way I can find out what you think it means, is by asking you....
It means:
I just want to know what you think it means since you immediately followed that with:
thejoker954@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 124d
Because they do. They don't want ”smart” people because they will get "bored" with the job.
When in truth they don't want "smart" people because they will actually do the job police are supposed to do instead of keeping minorities and poors down.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 124d
givesomefucks is a pure troll. He always takes outlandish takes on all kinds of threads and gets downvoted severely all over the site. It seems to be how he gets his rocks off. He is clearly not really here to talk about the issues themselves. If we had a cumulative downvote number on lemmy I'm sure it'd show this.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 123d
https://ny.prelawland.com/post/719662253773832192/too-smart-for-the-job-jordan-v-the-city-of-new
So quite literally:
Cops don't hire smart people because they think smart people probably wouldn't like the job.
AND
Cops are allowed to have internal policies that are found by the court to not actually be rational or backed by any actual empirical data, they simply have to claim that they thought they were rational, and this essentially makes them legally 'rational'.
This is essentially a legal carve out for corruption and abuse of power, that is routinely exploited by police departments, to hire outside contractors and consultants to come up with dubious and nonsensical policies and training and such for them... there functionally is no mechanism for scrutinizing this, unless they're just literally doing financial fraud or money laundering.
Like half the country still uses polygraphs, even though there is an entire body of scientific knowledge that shows them to be approximately as legitimate and effectacious as chiropracty.
See also all the spying devices and malware they use, that they certainly do not technically understand, and routinely employ and very often either don't even bother to legally justify, and very often make dubious legal arguments as to their validity.
Cops extremely literally exist in an extremely entitled and defferential legal status than every one else, our legal system is built upon deepthroating the boot.
dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 123d
Because that was always the point.
Blind loyalty to the institution and aptitude for unhinged violence are the only qualifiers.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 124d
So he picked a fight with a teenage girl, she gets arrested and he gets a paid vacation?
He doesn’t get the same charges?!
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 19 pts · 124d
This is the type of stuff a Union can get you. The Police Unions in the US are the single greatest advertising for unions and collective bargaining on the planet. Everything you can think of to complain about the double standard with police, comes back to union negotiated requirements.
The reasoning behind the whole suspension with pay stuff is essentially to not punish officers who are falsely accused while investigations are under way. Let that sink in for a minute as you think about everyone arrested for a crime and waiting months or years for trials...
Police officers are falsely accused of things all the time. There are also a ton that are correctly accused and end up receiving no punishment. The two are not mutually exclusive.
lemmyng@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 124d
Police unions are the greatest example of not all unions being created equal.
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 124d
Unions are supposed to protect workers from capitalism. But the police union has gone past that. How can we support unions in general, yet prevent them from going this route? (Asking seriously)
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 124d
State employees don't need a union.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 123d
I disagree, because the state is still operating within the bounds of capitalism. In a perfect world, state employees wouldn’t need a union. But for example, teachers are state employees. The meager protections that teachers have can largely be attributed to unions.
The bigger issue is that police largely work as state-sponsored union busters. Any job that involves union busting shouldn’t be allowed to have a union.
Wakmrow@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 124d
Buy guns
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 39 pts · 124d
Fuck the Police.
If they were held to higher standards, he'd be summarily getting life in prison or the death sentence for getting a traffic violation, much less for aggravated assault.
The Police aren't held to higher standards, what ... how can anyone even say that with a straight face?
Fuck off with that insanely obvious bullshit.
Don't even suffer this kind of insane gaslighting bullshit for a moment.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 124d
I think maybe they meant double standards, not higher standards.
TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 124d
double is higher, is twice as much
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 124d
That's the ticket
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 124d
They are held to higher standards, he failed to successfully incite violence. For a cop, that's unacceptable.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 124d
So a vacation then?
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 32 pts · 124d
Fucking hell. These guys are not worth a third of that salary, even when they're working and not just on vacation as a reward for being extra shitty.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 124d
= paid trip to disneyland. They really went hard on him didnt they. Meanwhile, the teenage girl he "provacateured" was arrested because of his actions.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 124d
The state wants more like him, so they pay for it. Let it sink in. The state encourages this type of behavior.
glitch1985@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 123d
Yeah but at least we can all sleep comfortably knowing this guy is not collecting as much OT as he regularly would while they determine he did nothing wrong.
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 123d
They have to pay them enough to look down on average people.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 124d
The reason this came out is at least one cop did the right thing and put it in their report.
We don't need to just prosecute the cop antagonizing protestors, but every cop who didn't mention in their own report all the shit this guy was saying.
If they ommitted any of it to protect a cop, they're not fit to be cops.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 124d
Cops have their own Omertà. Sort of the reverse, in practice. If you rat out your fellow officers, you're the one who isn't going to be on the force for much longer.
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 124d
And it's been going on for decades. Remember Frank Serpico?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 124d
Fantastic movie.
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 124d
He just turned 90 a couple of days ago. Amazing man.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 124d
ACAB
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 123d
Why isnt he arrested?
If he wasnt a cop, he'd be arrested.
And in an ideal world, any crime a cop commits would be an automatic felony for betrayal of the power invested in them and of the public trust.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 123d
Sorry. The best they can do is time off with full pay.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 123d
I’d challenge the idea that he’d be arrested. White privledge isn’t what it used to be if you’re female, a queer male, or identifiably not a MAGAt, but violent, straight, CIS white men harassing anyone in the outgroups in the name of dear leader often gets “a talking to” at best. I watched our local cops stand shoulder to shoulder with and backs turned to a crowd of armed boogaloos and patched outlaw MC bikers to stare down our much smaller BLM group. When one of their white boys decided to pop a shot into the ground to cause a panic, he was given a pass because “accidental discharge, his safety was off and he was only 16”. Meanwhile the 16yo punk girl who drew a small (A) symbol on the statehouse was a terrorist.
Cops or not, they go out looking to insight this kind of interaction. They drape themselves in body cams or bait it in front of uniformed police so that they can make themselves out to be the victim. So knowing that, either don’t take the bait, or if you do, make them find out what it’s actually like to be a “victim”.
DillDough@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 123d
Nah cops protect instigators all the time.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 123d
cause most the time its cops out of uniform doing the instigating.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 124d
He's one of them "good apples", he did it off the clock AND he didn't murder or rape anybody! Not even a choke hold.
EXEMPLARY
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 124d
Dude got a paid vacation...
TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 123d
Everyone laughed
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 123d
The higher standard of conduct here being not OPENLY ADMITTING to being agents provocateurs when infiltrating protests to be agent provocateurs.
Which I 100% guarantee is why they are pissed off with him. Cause he undermined their efforts to falsely arrest people now, and in the future, because protestors in that area are now gonna be on much higher alert for infiltrators intent on sowing discord and undermining the cause.
Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 124d
And these chuds wonder why a large chunk of the population hates their guts. ACAB.
zbyte64@awful.systems · 15 pts · 123d
Cops in my town arrested parents that were handing out water to the students that walked out.
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 123d
And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free.....
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 124d
Important to note this dude was a fucking sergeant!
JDPoZ@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 124d
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 124d
Again, how much does our president make?
This doesn't seem like the same incident where the guy fell on his ass trying to beat up a high school girl and then arrested her. They only seem to be going after the girls, I wonder why?
BlackPenguins@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 124d
Phoenix Police Department.
I just watched a John Lang video about how this is the most corrupt police department in America. After they murdered a man in 2020 outside his house.
https://youtu.be/NTVq4Gt7skE
Revolver1864@piefed.social · 0 pts · 124d
Fuck john lang too
BlackPenguins@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 124d
No other details?
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 123d
“with pay”
And an investigation that will do nothing.
nulluser@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 124d
That's how you lead a police department! Every other police chief should take notes and resign if that can't hold themselves to this standard.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 124d
By giving the dude a paid vacation?
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 124d
Jesus fuck some people are easy to trick