adjectives rule

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CombatWombat@feddit.online · 68 pts · 126d (1 reply)

WAT R UR DEMONSTRATIVES?

MINE ARE THESE/THOSE

luciferofastora@feddit.org · 9 pts · 126d

Mea sunt ille/illa/illud

Cptmurph616@lemmy.ca · 55 pts · 126d (1 reply)

THOUGHT, “THIS SOUNDS LIKE SKWEEZY JIBBS” THEN SAW THE WATERMARK

toomanypancakes@piefed.world · 40 pts · 126d (2 replies)

I'm pretty sure mine are quiet and awkward

HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 126d

I like quiet and awkward people. It's like little rays of sunshine when they temporarily come out of their shell, because they're usually super interesting people.

TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 126d

real

WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 126d (2 replies)

Fuck all that I want to know what your onomatopoeia are

TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 44 pts · 126d

Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 126d

Ope

dwemthy@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 126d

Cantankerous yet whimsical

k0e3@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 126d

Lazy and easily-distrac

Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 126d (1 reply)

Lonely and depressing 😭

SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 126d

"depressing or depressed?"

"Yes"

Glytchrider@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 125d

Weird but harmless

dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 126d

Introspective and neurotic.

LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 126d

Various / Hollow / #6693F5. (If a color is an adjective can a hex code be used as an adjective?)

Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 126d
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Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 126d

Abrasive and loud.

FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 7 pts · 126d

Excuse me? That’s clearly an imposter trying to play me. Edit: jk mine are AD and HD.

Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 126d

Belligerent and numerous.

SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 125d

I don't actually know. Now I need to ask my friends what my adjectives are 🤔

inconel@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 126d

sour and bitter

voidsignal@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 126d

Unforgiving, unforgetful and expectable

tetris11@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 126d

sleepy and driven

mech@feddit.org · 5 pts · 126d

drunk and i forgor the othewone

mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 126d (9 replies)

"her" works for both!

luciferofastora@feddit.org · 4 pts · 126d (7 replies)

How so? "her" isn't an adjective

mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 126d (5 replies)

It is as a possessive adjective.

As in "her car" or "her apple". It's not a TRUE adjective, so some modern textbooks call them determiners instead, but functionally this class of possessives is closer to adjectives than nouns.

luciferofastora@feddit.org · 8 pts · 126d (4 replies)

You mean possessive pronouns? Because those aren't adjectives. They're a stand-in for a name: "Jane's car" - "her car"

mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 126d (3 replies)

They're sometimes called that, but they're not actually nouns either. You can't use them as nouns. So calling them pronouns is a bit of a misnomer and most modern textbooks don't call them that for that reason, especially in EFL. They're their own special class of word, but they follow more adjective rules than noun rules, so you'll see them called all kinds of things. Possessive pronouns, possessive adjectives, possessive determiners... But all of those names for them have problems. Possessive pronouns is also problematic because they get confused with the ACTUAL pronoun set, which is mine, yours, his, hers, ours, and theirs, which DO function as nouns.

luciferofastora@feddit.org · 3 pts · 126d (2 replies)

They're their own special class of word, but they follow more adjective rules than noun rules, so you'll see them called all kinds of things

Does that make the present participle (progressive) forms of verbs like "writing" adjectives too, because they're used like adjectives rather than like verbs ("I am tired", "I am writing", not "I writing")? Does it make gerunds (unfortunately identical with present participles in English) nouns because they're used like nouns ("I like cats", "I like writing")?

They're each their own class of word, neither strictly verb (despite being verb forms) nor adjective / noun (despite being used similarly) and I think we should treat them as such.

I learned them in line with the declension of pronouns as analogues of nouns (which is generally less significant in English): I, my, me; you, your, you; he, his, him; she, her, her; it, its, it and so on. In some languages they have adjective-like declensions, but I think calling them adjectives is imprecise, because they're more than that: They generally don't make much sense without something they're substituted for.

For first and second person, that isn't immediately obvious, but for third person, you can probably see what I mean: "Her car is rusty. Its tires are flat."
We can infer that "Its" refers to the car, but "Her" doesn't tell us anything useful if we don't know who that "She" is. That is a trait of pronouns: They're substituted pro nomine.

I can say "tired cat" and it is a semantically complete. "Her car" isn't.

Hence: I concede that they're not purely pronouns, but rather pronouns with characteristics of adjectives. Their semantic intention is still to reference some other noun in the context, so I don't think it's fair to call them adjectives either.

mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 126d (1 reply)

Ooh... verbals are another fun one.

Basically, yes. A gerund IS a noun. A participle is an adjective when used as such. An infinitive is... whatever it feels like being.

But anyway, to get to the point...

I won't claim that "my/his/her..." are purely adjectives, but I will make the claim that they're as much adjectives as they are anything else.

luciferofastora@feddit.org · 1 pts · 126d

I won't claim that "my/his/her..." are purely adjectives, but I will make the claim that they're as much adjectives as they are anything else.

Fair, but in that case, when the context is fairly clearly about adjectives as opposed to pronouns, saying "Well, actually..." is just pedantic nerdery...

And I'm so here for it.

Patrikvo@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 126d

It can be: "My day was very hertic" "That's a very her tree".

No idea what it would mean. I suppose it would depend entirely on how your feel about women in general.

shiv@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 125d

Enkrod@feddit.org · 3 pts · 126d

Loyal, friendly, tired and sad.