As long as it's only half of them then the other half of them will want to leave at the next opportunity. The EU should allow them to join again when 75% of them want to join.
It would be really funny if the UK rejoined and were a full member like the others. Because they'd no longer be special it'd mean the EU to be strengthened in the long term.
The funny part being that Putler spent hundreds of millions to propagandise the UK into leaving the union in order to weaken it but ends up strengthening it
By making an example of the UK. The UK was the first country to leave the EU, and its economy got fucked big time in the process, making other countries think twice before considering the same manoeuvre. Case in point: the AfD, Germany's far-right populist party, used to promote an exit from the Euro and EU; seeing what happened to the UK, even those dipshits no longer do.
A major country left, realised despite all pride that it's definitively shittier, and came back. It would make eurosceptics' separatist propaganda harder.
I've come to realise over the years that it's the people fanning the flames of discord on both sides (edit: of the Brexit argument) that are helping the external forces that want to sow division in the UK. There are many who benefit from a divided Europe, including Putin and his orange puppet. These days I focus on the voices (edit: in the UK) that want to move us towards harmony rather than away from it. Unfortunately, there are fewer of those voices on social media than there should be and it's a pity.
Depends on what you understand 'harmony' to be, but seeking harmony can be equally risky and damaging. Like seeking cooperation with Putin or Trump to the point of losing your own strengths. No matter what you give, they'll move the goal post sooner or later anyway. This applies to all kinds of cooperation. In national politics it's not taking a stance and exclusion against the far right, otherwise they will infest, gain, and ultimately dismantle.
By harmony I mean the people of the UK making peace with each other again in order to present a united front against external threats (I thought that was obvious but my bad if it wasn't). Putin has tried to divide us in a bunch of different ways from amplifying our differences over Brexit to encouraging people in the UK to hate immigrants. I'm not making any of that up. For example just check where Nathan Gill, the former leader of Reform UK in Wales is right now and why...
An interesting point (and I like your username 🙂) But not what I was talking about. Maybe you should post this point as a post of it's own? It's certainly a thought-provoking topic.
The Euro is mandatory at this point. For a country to join, I mean. But of course countries can still „take their time“ adapting it and basically not adapt it. So yes the UK would have to formerly adapt the Euro. No doubt about it. Practically, thought? Never going to happen, if you ask me.
What are the odds that the EU would actually accept the UK as a potential member state again? I would assume that they'd just say sorry, missed your chance
Well, I’d welcome having the UK back, because we’re a geographical and cultural community.
It’s great that the fascists in the US, with their narcissistic delusions of grandeur, are now making it so clear that this messed-up country will never be even a halfway reliable partner.
It’s just a shame that this detour into an imaginary history, in which the UK is still a world-dominating power all on its own, was of course nothing but the same mindless illusion that is now hastening the end of the US as a superpower. That could easily have been predicted.
But hey, at least it’s clear now that the Brexit was a very bad idea. Seriously, just think about the cost of this unnecessary escapade. So much good could have been done with those resources.
I'm afraid the UK hasn't done itself any favors with this, especially since all the special terms that were available within the EU at the time will likely never be offered again in that form.
Just make sure that they take them in on equal terms with no special treatment: conversion to the Euro, no special veto powers, full Schengen movement.
Veto powers currently are the default. Which is why Putin puppets like Orban and Fico can stall important decisions. Just like the Yankee puppet UK could stall things.
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chocrates@piefed.world · 51 pts · 145d
Wait... Brexit was 10 years ago? ðŸ˜
FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone · 35 pts · 145d
Not Brexit, the Vote about Brexit
The process took almost 5 years to finish after the vote
alekwithak@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 145d
My reaction as well. Excuse me, what the fuck??
broom@piefed.social · 33 pts · 145d
I'd wait until a two-third majority.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 8 pts · 144d
Then watch half of the rejoiners not bothering to vote because it seems a sure thing, while the nazis reliably march to the polls in closed formation
plyth@feddit.org · 16 pts · 144d
As long as it's only half of them then the other half of them will want to leave at the next opportunity. The EU should allow them to join again when 75% of them want to join.
IratePirate@feddit.org · 10 pts · 144d
At this point the UK is basically Europe's cat: unsure (and constantly changing opinion on) whether it wants to be inside or out.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 16 pts · 144d
It would be really funny if the UK rejoined and were a full member like the others. Because they'd no longer be special it'd mean the EU to be strengthened in the long term.
The funny part being that Putler spent hundreds of millions to propagandise the UK into leaving the union in order to weaken it but ends up strengthening it
Yliaster@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 144d
How'd it strengthen?
IratePirate@feddit.org · 11 pts · 144d
By making an example of the UK. The UK was the first country to leave the EU, and its economy got fucked big time in the process, making other countries think twice before considering the same manoeuvre. Case in point: the AfD, Germany's far-right populist party, used to promote an exit from the Euro and EU; seeing what happened to the UK, even those dipshits no longer do.
jenesaisquoi@feddit.org · 8 pts · 144d
domusaltera@piefed.social · 16 pts · 145d
I've come to realise over the years that it's the people fanning the flames of discord on both sides (edit: of the Brexit argument) that are helping the external forces that want to sow division in the UK. There are many who benefit from a divided Europe, including Putin and his orange puppet. These days I focus on the voices (edit: in the UK) that want to move us towards harmony rather than away from it. Unfortunately, there are fewer of those voices on social media than there should be and it's a pity.
Kissaki@feddit.org · 5 pts · 145d
Depends on what you understand 'harmony' to be, but seeking harmony can be equally risky and damaging. Like seeking cooperation with Putin or Trump to the point of losing your own strengths. No matter what you give, they'll move the goal post sooner or later anyway. This applies to all kinds of cooperation. In national politics it's not taking a stance and exclusion against the far right, otherwise they will infest, gain, and ultimately dismantle.
domusaltera@piefed.social · 1 pts · 145d
By harmony I mean the people of the UK making peace with each other again in order to present a united front against external threats (I thought that was obvious but my bad if it wasn't). Putin has tried to divide us in a bunch of different ways from amplifying our differences over Brexit to encouraging people in the UK to hate immigrants. I'm not making any of that up. For example just check where Nathan Gill, the former leader of Reform UK in Wales is right now and why...
BilboBargains@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 144d
domusaltera@piefed.social · 1 pts · 144d
An interesting point (and I like your username 🙂) But not what I was talking about. Maybe you should post this point as a post of it's own? It's certainly a thought-provoking topic.
BilboBargains@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
I could be having a senior moment and replying to the wrong person 😆
icerunner_origin@startrek.website · 11 pts · 145d
At this point I'd happily accept the Euro as a condition of rejoining
Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz · 8 pts · 144d
Oh it will be, no special deals this time
CosmoNova@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 144d
The Euro is mandatory at this point. For a country to join, I mean. But of course countries can still „take their time“ adapting it and basically not adapt it. So yes the UK would have to formerly adapt the Euro. No doubt about it. Practically, thought? Never going to happen, if you ask me.
yottle@kopitalk.net · 1 pts · 144d
What are the odds that the EU would actually accept the UK as a potential member state again? I would assume that they'd just say sorry, missed your chance
regdog@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 144d
Yeah, you don't take back an abusive partner just because they are sorry.
DandomRude@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 145d
Well, I’d welcome having the UK back, because we’re a geographical and cultural community.
It’s great that the fascists in the US, with their narcissistic delusions of grandeur, are now making it so clear that this messed-up country will never be even a halfway reliable partner.
It’s just a shame that this detour into an imaginary history, in which the UK is still a world-dominating power all on its own, was of course nothing but the same mindless illusion that is now hastening the end of the US as a superpower. That could easily have been predicted.
But hey, at least it’s clear now that the Brexit was a very bad idea. Seriously, just think about the cost of this unnecessary escapade. So much good could have been done with those resources.
I'm afraid the UK hasn't done itself any favors with this, especially since all the special terms that were available within the EU at the time will likely never be offered again in that form.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 143d
I'd love it of the EU asked Australia to join the EU. I'm all for it, what a wonderful grand experiment it is.
CumbrianCucumber@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 144d
Fantastic news - the UK had to learn the hard way who its real allies and adversaries are
tirateimas@lemmy.pt · 5 pts · 144d
The big mistake of the previous decade. Perhaps in the next decade we will be fortunate enough to have it reversed.
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 144d
Fuck'em. They wanted to control their borders, thay have it. Thay wanted independence from EU rules, they have it.
winni@piefed.social · 4 pts · 145d
hopefully the eu is not so stupid to take them in again
greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo · 19 pts · 145d
No, please do, but don't give them back the veto.
Its very annoying trying to go back to idiot island to visit my family there.
illi@piefed.social · 17 pts · 145d
I think it was clear that whenever they want to rejoin, there will be no special treatment
chocrates@piefed.world · 2 pts · 145d
I've heard they are getting on the Euro once they come crawling back
greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo · 1 pts · 144d
Its probably for the best.
ramble81@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 144d
Just make sure that they take them in on equal terms with no special treatment: conversion to the Euro, no special veto powers, full Schengen movement.
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 144d
Veto powers currently are the default. Which is why Putin puppets like Orban and Fico can stall important decisions. Just like the Yankee puppet UK could stall things.