Ancestry is weird. You've got 2 parents, 4 grandparents and so on. Do the math and you'll have a billion ancestors in like 40 generations. Obviously, we can't all have a billion unique ancestors, so mathematically there must be plenty of people in my family tree that are also in yours. No matter the geographic spread or race nonsense.
However it's also true that you've got 50% of your parents DNA, ~25% grandparents and so on. Which means eventually, you'll have an ancestor that you share no genetic markers with. It's usually about generation 12 where this happens.
So it's true that we're all related and it's also true that your not related to your 12^th^ great grandfather.
3 generations for rednecks... Cousin marriage is often legal and not unheard of, though most people try to avoid such close relatives. By 3rd cousins - 5 generations - you often don't even know everyone and so it wouldn't be a surprise if you don't even know you are so closely related until long after you have kids. Generally there is enough separation that this isn't a genetic issue. Even first cousins don't typically share enough genes for issues to be much more common than otherwise. (kids of brothers-sister pairs often have genetic issues).
Even that changes. My surname is what it is because English doesn't have the same accents of the old German script (which isn't used in Germany anymore), and so the spelling changed. Then over time how we pronounce it has changed to match the spelling.
Just try and make sure those ghost guns are in good hands before you do. Be a shame to waste perfectly good antiMAGA gear that MAGA wasted their time and money stockpiling.
... No I mean... I live on the other side of the country now, my family probably thinks I am dead.
That was years ago now.
... my user name is an allusion to a ghost for multiple reasons, that's one of them.
The last time I talked with him, he quite literally spent 25 minutes trying to explain to me that Tom Hanks's son is part of a cult of pedophile child rapist blood drinkers... and then proceeded to segue from that into 'well hey, lemme show you this ar-10 with no serial stamp on the reciever that I'm working on!'
Full on Q Anon nutcase. Lifelong Rush Limbaugh/Fox News fan. Would routinely tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about in... fields that I have degrees in, lines of work that I have near a decade of experience in.
That was the last time I wore a mask and pretended any of his completely insane behavior was safe to be around.
Sounds similar to my relationship. I have no clue where they reside now or if they’re even still alive, and would be disappointed to find out they were so I never look. Also on the Rush/QAnon train, and intensely evangelical to boot. Which is the great irony of the “Hollywood blood drinking pedo cult” conspiracy, since their God knocked up a teenager and they drink blood symbolically every weekend to celebrate his torture-kill. Every accusation is a confession.
3 generations back was... Vernon. The farm family he came from had tons of kids. Just the boys had a rhyme to remember them all. There was Ed, and Ted, and leather head, and Jim, and John, and Walt, and Vernon. But Vernon was a crook, so after you said his name you spit the juice from your tobacco chew to get his bad name out of your mouth.
That's why I always thought it weird when these famous US celebs did these ancestry checks and were so amazed that one of their ancestors was a slave owner or something
Yeah, I'm sure most people will have ancestors that owned slaves. That doesn't say anything about you, or me though
Probably more people who did something important, such as fighting in wwii or helping out with a good cause. For every horrible person, there's other people who've contributed to society well
In the span of 30 minutes i learned i had an ancestor who lived to be 104 and was a civil war veteran. He left his home in Alabama to join when he was 16. I then learned her fought for the union.
To find the real shitty people you've got to go back on the other side of the family to the conquistadors in California.
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yesman@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 146d
Ancestry is weird. You've got 2 parents, 4 grandparents and so on. Do the math and you'll have a billion ancestors in like 40 generations. Obviously, we can't all have a billion unique ancestors, so mathematically there must be plenty of people in my family tree that are also in yours. No matter the geographic spread or race nonsense.
However it's also true that you've got 50% of your parents DNA, ~25% grandparents and so on. Which means eventually, you'll have an ancestor that you share no genetic markers with. It's usually about generation 12 where this happens.
So it's true that we're all related and it's also true that your not related to your 12^th^ great grandfather.
bluGill@fedia.io · 18 pts · 146d
As you get back more than 12 generations it is highly likely the same person appears more than once in your family tree.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 146d
4 generations if you're european royalty
bluGill@fedia.io · 6 pts · 146d
3 generations for rednecks... Cousin marriage is often legal and not unheard of, though most people try to avoid such close relatives. By 3rd cousins - 5 generations - you often don't even know everyone and so it wouldn't be a surprise if you don't even know you are so closely related until long after you have kids. Generally there is enough separation that this isn't a genetic issue. Even first cousins don't typically share enough genes for issues to be much more common than otherwise. (kids of brothers-sister pairs often have genetic issues).
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 145d
I think Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip were distant cousins of some kind
bluGill@fedia.io · 2 pts · 145d
It wouldn't surprise me, but as an American I have an objection to monarchy in general and so I don't care enough to look it up.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 146d
Kinda interesting that at the certain point, only the surname survives
bluGill@fedia.io · 4 pts · 145d
Even that changes. My surname is what it is because English doesn't have the same accents of the old German script (which isn't used in Germany anymore), and so the spelling changed. Then over time how we pronounce it has changed to match the spelling.
Mac@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 145d
Mine also changed a few generations ago. Not drastically, but still.
Astronut@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 146d
I’d have to go all the way back to my brother. The stupid sumbitch voted for trump!
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 23 pts · 146d
That's not really back...that's more to the right.
Astronut@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 146d
But I only go left. And no I don’t mean nascar left!
z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 146d
Yeah, most people don't have to go that far back at all.
Sometimes I'm pretty sure I don't even have to look at my family, I can just look in the mirror.
Anyways, that's enough self loathing for the next 10 seconds, enjoy your shower and your thoughts.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 146d
Step one: Dad's a MAGA cultist, alcoholic (i can tell you how an interlock device works), who also builds ghost guns in his garage.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 145d
I mean.. it sounds like you could solve those problems with a couple phone calls to the FBI
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 146d
Comments like that gonna get you/him raided lmao
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 145d
Oh I live very far away from him, and have tried to get him raided.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 145d
Just try and make sure those ghost guns are in good hands before you do. Be a shame to waste perfectly good antiMAGA gear that MAGA wasted their time and money stockpiling.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 145d
... No I mean... I live on the other side of the country now, my family probably thinks I am dead.
That was years ago now.
... my user name is an allusion to a ghost for multiple reasons, that's one of them.
The last time I talked with him, he quite literally spent 25 minutes trying to explain to me that Tom Hanks's son is part of a cult of pedophile child rapist blood drinkers... and then proceeded to segue from that into 'well hey, lemme show you this ar-10 with no serial stamp on the reciever that I'm working on!'
Full on Q Anon nutcase. Lifelong Rush Limbaugh/Fox News fan. Would routinely tell me I have no idea what I'm talking about in... fields that I have degrees in, lines of work that I have near a decade of experience in.
That was the last time I wore a mask and pretended any of his completely insane behavior was safe to be around.
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 145d
Sounds similar to my relationship. I have no clue where they reside now or if they’re even still alive, and would be disappointed to find out they were so I never look. Also on the Rush/QAnon train, and intensely evangelical to boot. Which is the great irony of the “Hollywood blood drinking pedo cult” conspiracy, since their God knocked up a teenager and they drink blood symbolically every weekend to celebrate his torture-kill. Every accusation is a confession.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 145d
They're literally perfect hypocrites... its actually insane.
... sorry you're in a similar situation, but also, good fucking riddance.
58008@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 145d
It's me 😭
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 6 pts · 145d
Look at this show off. Has a post dedicated to them and still upset.
/s
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 145d
toiletobserver@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 146d
3 generations back was... Vernon. The farm family he came from had tons of kids. Just the boys had a rhyme to remember them all. There was Ed, and Ted, and leather head, and Jim, and John, and Walt, and Vernon. But Vernon was a crook, so after you said his name you spit the juice from your tobacco chew to get his bad name out of your mouth.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 146d
Leather head?
toiletobserver@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 145d
It was a nick name
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe · 2 pts · 146d
Like Wullerton! (spits)
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 145d
If you go back far enough, your ancestor is a different species.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
I don't think I have to go that far back.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 145d
That's why I always thought it weird when these famous US celebs did these ancestry checks and were so amazed that one of their ancestors was a slave owner or something
Yeah, I'm sure most people will have ancestors that owned slaves. That doesn't say anything about you, or me though
Sins of the father and stuff like that
PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 146d
you probably have hundreds of rapists in your ancestry
Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 146d
Probably
mech@feddit.org · 4 pts · 145d
I don't have to go back far, since one of my grandfathers invaded Poland and the other one exploited POWs as forced labor to build roads.
Rhaedas@fedia.io · 4 pts · 146d
And someone who did something important.
What you do with your life isn't tied to either of those.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 146d
Probably more people who did something important, such as fighting in wwii or helping out with a good cause. For every horrible person, there's other people who've contributed to society well
Dearth@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
In the span of 30 minutes i learned i had an ancestor who lived to be 104 and was a civil war veteran. He left his home in Alabama to join when he was 16. I then learned her fought for the union.
To find the real shitty people you've got to go back on the other side of the family to the conquistadors in California.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
Might not be true, just statistically likely
daannii@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
Based on my knowledge of a lack of family wealth, I am fairly certain it's mostly petty theft and prostitution.
Which is way better than , for instance, slave owner, or being one of those factory owners that locks employees in so they die in fires.
There are comforts in knowing I come from a long line of poverty. At least none of us were the worst of the worst.
Kacarott@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 145d
Sounds like you just aren't going far enough back to find the true monsters
daannii@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 144d
Oh I've heard stories. Some real bastards. But nothing compares to the two things I mentioned.
WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
I just need to look in the mirror to find that person.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 146d
Ghengis Kahn
Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 145d
The dragon warrior! It's me!
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 145d
Yup. And it is our moral duty to denounce them if the topic is ever brought up.
beefmayonnaise@feddit.org · 1 pts · 145d
We still haven't left this single apple behind, have we?