Star Labs Systems, a UK-based Linux hardware startup, has finally launched the StarFighter laptop — a high-performance laptop built with premium materials and designed primarily to run a Linux operating system.
Star Labs Systems, a UK-based Linux hardware startup, has finally launched the StarFighter laptop — a high-performance laptop built with premium materials and designed primarily to run a Linux operating system.
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Pika@sh.itjust.works · 77 pts · 132d
And like that, any interest I had in that system is gone.
In 2026, it's unforgivable for any system to have soldered components. I'm not about to spend premium pricing(in this case it's almost $1900 USD starting) on a system that if a ramstick dies I have to replace the entire main board.
marighost@piefed.social · 31 pts · 132d
Especially when Framework exists, and to a lesser extent, Valve's hardware.
Pika@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 132d
yeah, like I always thought that the framework was a little steep on pricing(Although compared to this...) , but at least you get the ability of cold swapping parts out.
IronKrill@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 131d
Framework also has used soldered RAM in the past. Getting their newest model to use modular RAM was quite the boast.
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 131d
Uhhh...Framework literally makes soldered RAM desktops. They did it because replaceable RAM simply can't meet the same performance.
Mihies@programming.dev · 10 pts · 132d
While I'm with you, there is one advantage: RAM can work on higher speeds when soldered and few actually upgrade it when not soldered.
Pika@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 132d
I agree with that. My issue isn't upgrading it, It's a laptop. It's unlikely I would upgrade it anyway just because of the compact design. My issue is strictly the repairing/replacing a damaged component point of view. Soldered components easily turns a repair job from "does this person have access to YouTube?" to a "do I still know a shop that's willing to still use a soldering iron?"
Mihies@programming.dev · 5 pts · 132d
Yep, true, soldering really kills reparability for most.
hateisreality@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 132d
Surface mount rework station
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 130d
A soldering iron isn’t going to get the job done for high density BGA packages. Example chip:
All those dots are balls of solder. The chip needs to be placed on the board in exactly the right position and orientation, and then the whole thing placed in a reflow oven so that the solder balls can melt and flow appropriately without bridging any connections.
Doing this at home without the right tools is essentially impossible. With the right tools, it’s merely quite difficult. Reflow soldering takes experience and carries the risk of damaging other components on the board which may not survive the temperatures in the reflow oven, so need to be removed first. Plus the reflowing procedure itself is guided by a temperature profile which would have been developed through experience in the factory with specific adjustments for the thermal characteristics of this board. Get the profile wrong and you may break other connections when the solder fails to flow, or have other chips on the board come loose.
ramasses@social.ozymandias.club · 11 pts · 132d
Yeah, thats true but framework solved this with LPCAMM2 modules, which have much higher write speeds that sodimm. And just because "few actually upgrade it" doesnt mean all ram should be soldered, as having unsoldered ram caters to a completely different consumer market.
Mihies@programming.dev · 3 pts · 132d
Didn't they go with soldered RAM with their desktop PC, though?
ramasses@social.ozymandias.club · 2 pts · 132d
I think so, because that was during the peak of the ram shortage, and LPCAMM2 was barely produced then.
Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 132d
If they use CAMM that’s no longer the case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAMM_(memory_module)
jagermo@feddit.org · 6 pts · 132d
I understand, but I had to trash a great laptop because the soldered ram died. Never again.
Mihies@programming.dev · 1 pts · 132d
Yeah. That's really bad.
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 132d
If you took it to a place that does board repair place I'm sure they'd replace it for you.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 132d
In Australia there's a company called microtec engineering.
We send crane to boards and displays etc to them for repairs.
10k for a new component or 2k to freight repair and return.
And often a life saver on machines that are so old the manufacturer has discontinued parts.
We had that repaired last year by them.
scholar@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 130d
The laptop was announced back in 2022, they've had some problems with suppliers which is why it's a bit odd for a 2026 laptop.
Pika@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 130d
yea even for a 2022 that's a bit odd if you ask me. At least they eventually launched instead of folding though.
scholar@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 130d
there was an awkward period around then when processors wanted the ram to be as close as possible (making sodimm a poor choice) and CAMM didn't exist yet.
ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 130d
Yeah that's a no for me.
Decq@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 131d
Am I alone as an EU citizen that I don't bother with buying anything from the UK since brexit was finalized? I can't be bothered to look up whether the customs crap has been resolved or not and I don't feel like finding out either. It's basically the same to me as made in the US.
enki@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 131d
Yeah, UK is still a roll of the dice when it comes to customs (at least in my head). Ordering from EU is so much easier and more reliable. Also I don't have to deal with multiple currencies.
orenj@leminal.space · 11 pts · 132d
Painful price point. Thats about as much as my current desktop PC, all peripherials included.
Edit: before ram prices went mental, but post GPU price shift
entwine@programming.dev · 9 pts · 131d
This is actually impressive. Y'all dunking on it probably don't realize just how tiny this company is, yet they somehow managed to pull this off without being just another Clevo reseller. It's a whole custom chassis that actually looks sick, and a sane keyboard layout.
Unfortunately, this is probably the worst possible time to launch a laptop. Those prices are wild, and I say that as someone willing to pay a premium for Linux support. I also already upgraded recently, so it'll be a pass from me for now... But I wish them the best of luck!
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 3 pts · 131d
And y'all in the comments wonder why Linux doesn't get the support it deserves.
ultimate_worrier@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 131d
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 4 pts · 130d
Hey! Wake up!
https://frame.work/es/en/products/deep-computing-risc-v-mainboard
ultimate_worrier@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 130d
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 1 pts · 130d
It is capable of many things :)
ultimate_worrier@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 130d
dudesss@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 131d
Same! I heard Raspberry Pis kind of use Risc-V. But I don't understand enough to know which of their devices do.
dudesss@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 131d
Personally I'd love a big ass Raspberry Pi, but I might be bitting my tongue at that one.
ultimate_worrier@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 131d
dudesss@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 131d
Wow, Invidious link too, good stuff!
dudesss@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 131d
Oh man, this thing is long. I just need to know what I can use to host a Valheim server with.
There is no way thing can run a Valheim server:
ultimate_worrier@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 131d
dudesss@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 131d
I'd love to use these are signals to know when I my home server services are down though. I might be one. I do have an Raspberry Pi 4B, but I'm not sure how I will connect LEDs to it with the case open. I might be better open opening up my RPI 4B.
lengau@midwest.social · 2 pts · 131d
Why does it seem to be impossible to find smol laptops these days?
chris@links.openriver.net · 4 pts · 131d
Framework has you covered there.
lengau@midwest.social · 2 pts · 131d
Even the Framework 12 is bigger than I'd like.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 130d
Then you are in a very niche market
chris@links.openriver.net · 1 pts · 130d
My dude how about a smartwatch? Haha ;)
lengau@midwest.social · 1 pts · 130d
Any that run GNU+Linux?
Illecors@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 131d
This is great for business users!