Hometown I'm from in Nevada has a very high basque population and they used to have the 4th of July celebration was actually a big basque celebration. Still absolutely love and prefer the basque chorizo over any sort of slimy Mexican chorizo out there.
Sorry to say there's no "Basque chorizo". Do you mean txistorra? It's different. Each have their uses.
There's no Basque celebration here in the 4th of July, isn't that the American independence day? I think you have your facts pretty mixed. Or do you mean that they celebrated the American independence day with Basque motifs? In that case idk, kinda cool kinda weird, like pick an actual day that matters to us idk. Anyway.
There's a lot of weird pieces of American culture which I believe started as immigrants telling their kids stories about where they emigrated from and trying to restart the traditions and culture of their heritage in the US that got mixed into the broader US cultural trappings. We only get like 5 federally mandated holidays off a year (if you work for a company above a certain size. Small businesses don't have to give their employees any holidays or other benefits like sick days or health insurance), so there's a lot of combining celebrations with holidays that people don't have to work on.
You can drive across the country and find towns that look like they came right out of a tourism guide of Holland, or Germany, or the Netherlands, etc. that have their own weird celebrations of some bastardization of the culture/traditions of the country where the people emigrated from. It's like a multi-generational game of telephone that started from a bunch of "when I was a kid..." stories.
And yeah I know there's no 4th of July celebration in the Spanish French area that they're from. I'm saying that in America on the 4th of July in the hometown that I'm from instead of doing a whole America 4th of July celebration because there were so many basque people that live here that they have a celebration that they call the Basque festival where they do a lot of different things dress traditionally they dance on wine glasses and do all sorts of stuff like that.
Germany and france had the Erbfeindschaft (french-german enmity), a rivalery whoms origin you can trace back all the way to the splitting of the franconian empire or even way back to roman empire times. Because romans vs germanic tribes, and the bor
England and france have something similair due to the hundred years war shenanigans.
Spain and Austria and france due to the Habsburgs and French Kingdom having always been at each others throats for dominance over europe
Russia and France due to Napoleon
The dutch and the french due to the Kingdom of Burgundy and Napoleon
Italy and france could be traced back to romans vs gauls but defenetly also has to do with the italian wars, papal shenanigans like the whole avignion popes and constantly interfearing in papal state situations
I do not know of any more actually proper rivaleries with the france.
Today its all jokes and giggles, italy and france only culturally are in a friendly rivalery, germany and france have one of the tightes friendships and is now the franco german friendship :) (im just saying ARTE)
I am german and we germans can learn a lot from france, especially cultural wise lots of things i admire about the french people. <3
Continuons Ă Ćuvrer pour une Europe unie et pacifique!
Some jokes and giggles are very long standing, a pretty large part of the Rhinelandic carnival tradition traces back to mocking the (napoleonic) French, for example...
Which once? None of them that i know come from the occupation but like the rest to mock clergy, nobility, the upper crust in general and ofc some good old germanic paganism
Iâm English and I was driving through Europe and ended up in France. I was at a petrol station and when a new cashier opened up and everybody behind me in the queue just walked past me to the new. I was sort of stood there in shock waiting for someone to let me go in front of them before I suddenly remembered and I was like âOh yeah, Iâm in Franceâ.
Go and visit a German supermarket. When a new queue opens you will see grandma's running at speeds that would qualify them for an Olympic sprint race if they could keep it up for more than the distance to the next cashier. I am always amazed that nobody is tripping and hurting themselves in their panic to get to new cashier as quickly as possible.
In stark contrast to that, when the fire alarm goes off in the supermarket, they will calmly continue shopping as if nothing happened in the happy ignorance of the roof they are shopping under being of the same structural integrity as the frozen pizza sold underneath it: 12 Minutes at 220 degrees and it's done.
As a European I'm confused.
Did the cashier you were queued for stop accepting customers? If not, what exactly is the queue etiquette supposed to be here? Nobody moves to the new queue until the person in front of them confirms they don't desire to switch?
What I'm used to from grocery shops/supermarkets is that, as soon as a new cashier opens, everyone in the queue evaluates for themselves whether their place in the new queue would be faster and moves accordingly. If practical (new queue is close to the old one and can be reached by simply walking over) the order from the old queue is generally preserved. If instead the natural way to move would invert the order (tight isles, obstacles between the queues) that is simply what happens. In either case, this usually splits the queue into roughly equal parts in a quick and efficient manner and does so organically, without the need for verbal communication.
I'm curious how this is normally done in the UK/US.
I suppose the fact that this was a different time (80s and 90s) makes a big impact. Americans weren't as reviled back then as they are now. I'd probably tell people I'm Canadian if I went back there now.
Turns out rampaging through the Netherlands, the Rhineland principalities, northern Italy, the Balkans, Austria, Prussia, Poland, Russia, Egypt, Spain, and Portugal in the span of 20 years earns you some longstanding animosity.
Hold on, when was that? Was it after literally all the royal families in Europe banded together trying to punish the one country that dared murder their king, because they feared it would spread to their own country? When England kept sitting across the sea while funding multiple European coalitions to keep attacking over and over?
It's okay, we don't hold a grudge against them for trying to enforce absolute monarchy by crushing a people that tried to break free from their tyranny. We just think they're pussies.
I love how the French are largely ungovernable, but yâall are definitely snooty. I remember having a French exchange student who refused to eat corn because it was for cows. And who refused to eat cheese in the us, even when it was properly fancy cheese. But he loved epoisse.
It's an old joke I guess. I'm French and I don't know why though. It give me an excuse to pretend I'm better than everyone else, everyone laughs, it's the point of the meme I guess, no need to think about it further.
In my experiences as a German visiting France a few times they are more pretentious about speaking french.
I feel like in other countries people care less about me not speaking their native language, most often we both just speak english and everything is fine.
And even if neither of us speaks any language of the other I feel people are more willing to communicate with hands and feet.
In France they just look at you annoyed and hope you go away.
The English have tainted the English-speaking world's views on mainland Europe. Plus, the French lack of immediate support after 9/11 also started a wave of French hate. The infamous "freedom fries" stuff. Then, it's rare for the average American to meet real French people and disabuse Americans of stereotypes. Which, to be fair, aren't exactly wrong...in Paris. Once you get out in the country the French are generally pretty chill. New Yorkers aren't exactly universally friendly either, so it's sorry of a double standard IMO.
I always thought it was the French don't take any shit from their government(or less than any other country I can think of) making governments and media push Anti-French smear campaigns hard.
If you want to control a population you don't want them getting to friendly or respecting the population that will riot whenever their government attempts to strip rights away.
Legitimately, France did so much to help early America (primarily to spite Britain, but whatever, we take those), and didn't just turn us into a French colony about it, and gets NO recognition at all for most of it. We owe them a certain ancestral debt of gratitude and respect which isn't really the case for the rest of Europe.
Some of us Americans love the French, most of us are indifferent, and a few like to jump on the European joke-hate(?) bandwagon without really understanding the context behind it. European banter is just legitimately different because y'all have thousands of years of cultural history behind it. We don't.
Yep. France is the USA's oldest ally. They helped us win our independence from Britain. We helped them kick out invading Germans twice.
There was a chance Napoleon might have set his eyes on the Americas if he had won in Europe. But we will never know.
I'm an American who actually likes France. I've visited before and plan to again. I've never really understood the hate from my fellow Americans. I think a lot of it started during the US invasion of Iraq when France refused to send troops. It was suddenly "freedom fries" and fuck the French propaganda everywhere, and I think its stuck. Despite most Americans knowing the Iraq war was a sham at this point.
I think before 2001 it had a different vibe. As a kid it felt like it was fairly present even back then, but thinking back on it now it was more of a "kid brother imitating their older sibling" vibe that probably came from imported European culture. Stuff like Monty Python or whatever making "everybody hates the French" jokes, where Americans just kinda ran with it without understanding the context of centuries of war in Europe that gave rise to an in-group joke that we are definitely not a part of, or felt that they were a part of the in-group because of their heritage as immigrants or something.
Also probably not helped by the fact that France's aid is generally glossed over in American history in favor of a more "pulled ourselves out of British tyranny by our bootstraps" narrative.
I doubt most Americans even know that the Statue of Liberty was a gift from France.
Regarding the Louisiana purchase, I recall learning somewhere that Napoleon was happy to sell it to fund his European campaign, and figured when the time came he could just invade and take it back if he wanted.
Let's be honest for most Europeans dissing France is punching up. Even though the general American is not the personification of their country, from the outside, it's icky. Also y'allthey lie or hyperfocus on the white flag bullshit, there's plenty legit petty bullshit to diss France about, no need to lie!
To paraphrase Corrado Guzzanti: "The English, people who went around butt-naked hunting marmots while we were already busy stabbing Julius Caesar. killing Gauls"
Idk aside from millennias of wars (since Rome vs Gauls to WWII), artistic competition (and thievery on their part!), renaissance, etc, I think we may have a little more beef.
Americans who identify as Irish were granted their privileges in society/ heirarchy by breaking their ties with the native/Indians and the black man/woman. They often became everything the people of Ireland fought to oppose.
Thereâs a book called How the Irish became White that deals with this.
An Irish nationalist leader called out Irish-Americans for being racist towards Native Americans, and told Irish-Americans they are unsympathetic towards fellow oppressed folks.
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one_old_coder@piefed.social · 93 pts · 91d
Upvoted because I'm French. You're all jealous anyway (emoji with dark glasses and shit).
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 26 pts · 91d
Cool shades. Shame about the feces on them, though.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 91d
The French are insufferable but very entertaining so I love you guys.
microcapybara@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 90d
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Those are what you meant, right?
one_old_coder@piefed.social · 3 pts · 90d
Shit yeah!
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 90d
Baise ouais*
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 90d
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fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 90d
Same, only no one hates the Basque because they fear our space internship program.
titanicx@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 89d
Hometown I'm from in Nevada has a very high basque population and they used to have the 4th of July celebration was actually a big basque celebration. Still absolutely love and prefer the basque chorizo over any sort of slimy Mexican chorizo out there.
fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 89d
Sorry to say there's no "Basque chorizo". Do you mean txistorra? It's different. Each have their uses.
There's no Basque celebration here in the 4th of July, isn't that the American independence day? I think you have your facts pretty mixed. Or do you mean that they celebrated the American independence day with Basque motifs? In that case idk, kinda cool kinda weird, like pick an actual day that matters to us idk. Anyway.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 89d
There's a lot of weird pieces of American culture which I believe started as immigrants telling their kids stories about where they emigrated from and trying to restart the traditions and culture of their heritage in the US that got mixed into the broader US cultural trappings. We only get like 5 federally mandated holidays off a year (if you work for a company above a certain size. Small businesses don't have to give their employees any holidays or other benefits like sick days or health insurance), so there's a lot of combining celebrations with holidays that people don't have to work on.
You can drive across the country and find towns that look like they came right out of a tourism guide of Holland, or Germany, or the Netherlands, etc. that have their own weird celebrations of some bastardization of the culture/traditions of the country where the people emigrated from. It's like a multi-generational game of telephone that started from a bunch of "when I was a kid..." stories.
titanicx@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 89d
Well here in the States there is basque style chorizo, more like a bratwurst with spicy pork and lamb. As opposed to a Mexican style paste.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Falls-Brand-Basque-Chorizo-24-oz-8-per-Package/47183387
And yeah I know there's no 4th of July celebration in the Spanish French area that they're from. I'm saying that in America on the 4th of July in the hometown that I'm from instead of doing a whole America 4th of July celebration because there were so many basque people that live here that they have a celebration that they call the Basque festival where they do a lot of different things dress traditionally they dance on wine glasses and do all sorts of stuff like that.
https://elkobasqueclub.com/events
D1re_W0lf@piefed.social · 77 pts · 90d
zaphod@sopuli.xyz · 26 pts · 91d
I don't get why everyone hates France.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 90d
Its mostly for fun and not seriouse.
Germany and france had the Erbfeindschaft (french-german enmity), a rivalery whoms origin you can trace back all the way to the splitting of the franconian empire or even way back to roman empire times. Because romans vs germanic tribes, and the bor
England and france have something similair due to the hundred years war shenanigans.
Spain and Austria and france due to the Habsburgs and French Kingdom having always been at each others throats for dominance over europe
Russia and France due to Napoleon
The dutch and the french due to the Kingdom of Burgundy and Napoleon
Italy and france could be traced back to romans vs gauls but defenetly also has to do with the italian wars, papal shenanigans like the whole avignion popes and constantly interfearing in papal state situations
I do not know of any more actually proper rivaleries with the france. Today its all jokes and giggles, italy and france only culturally are in a friendly rivalery, germany and france have one of the tightes friendships and is now the franco german friendship :) (im just saying ARTE) I am german and we germans can learn a lot from france, especially cultural wise lots of things i admire about the french people. <3
Continuons Ă Ćuvrer pour une Europe unie et pacifique!
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 90d
Some jokes and giggles are very long standing, a pretty large part of the Rhinelandic carnival tradition traces back to mocking the (napoleonic) French, for example...
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 90d
Which once? None of them that i know come from the occupation but like the rest to mock clergy, nobility, the upper crust in general and ofc some good old germanic paganism
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 90d
Especially the carnival sessions (with the council of 11, and fanfares after someone speaks, which is a mockery of the official proceedings the French occupation introduced), and the significance of the number 11 as such, as a mockery of the French revolutionary slogan "Egalité, Liberteé, Fraternité", which was frequently abbreviated as ELF, meaning eleven in German, and used in all sorts of documents and inscriptions of the occupation authorities.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 90d
The more you know :)
twinnie@feddit.uk · 15 pts · 91d
Iâm English and I was driving through Europe and ended up in France. I was at a petrol station and when a new cashier opened up and everybody behind me in the queue just walked past me to the new. I was sort of stood there in shock waiting for someone to let me go in front of them before I suddenly remembered and I was like âOh yeah, Iâm in Franceâ.
Demigodrick@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 91d
As a fellow Brit, that sort of behavior is unthinkable. I hope you tutted loudly.
Zabjam@feddit.org · 6 pts · 90d
Go and visit a German supermarket. When a new queue opens you will see grandma's running at speeds that would qualify them for an Olympic sprint race if they could keep it up for more than the distance to the next cashier. I am always amazed that nobody is tripping and hurting themselves in their panic to get to new cashier as quickly as possible.
trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 90d
In stark contrast to that, when the fire alarm goes off in the supermarket, they will calmly continue shopping as if nothing happened in the happy ignorance of the roof they are shopping under being of the same structural integrity as the frozen pizza sold underneath it: 12 Minutes at 220 degrees and it's done.
wols@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 90d
As a European I'm confused.
Did the cashier you were queued for stop accepting customers? If not, what exactly is the queue etiquette supposed to be here? Nobody moves to the new queue until the person in front of them confirms they don't desire to switch?
What I'm used to from grocery shops/supermarkets is that, as soon as a new cashier opens, everyone in the queue evaluates for themselves whether their place in the new queue would be faster and moves accordingly. If practical (new queue is close to the old one and can be reached by simply walking over) the order from the old queue is generally preserved. If instead the natural way to move would invert the order (tight isles, obstacles between the queues) that is simply what happens. In either case, this usually splits the queue into roughly equal parts in a quick and efficient manner and does so organically, without the need for verbal communication.
I'm curious how this is normally done in the UK/US.
Miaou@jlai.lu · 4 pts · 90d
Something I've always hated myself, but the Germans are even worse with this ;)
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 91d
I'm American and experienced the same thing in Germany. Not everyone has the enlightened tradition of the queue we got from you guys!
Lumidaub@feddit.org · 1 pts · 90d
Or maybe everybody just instantly clocked you as an Ami who needs to go home. :P
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 90d
Not unless they heard me speak. And I was home, as I was living in Germany at the time. You're sounding very American yourself!
Lumidaub@feddit.org · 2 pts · 90d
A joke, following the general vibe in this thread, of friendly international ribbing. Followed by a cheeky smiley.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 90d
I suppose the fact that this was a different time (80s and 90s) makes a big impact. Americans weren't as reviled back then as they are now. I'd probably tell people I'm Canadian if I went back there now.
Shindo66@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 90d
Should of given them an old chelsea smile.
dgdft@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 91d
Turns out rampaging through the Netherlands, the Rhineland principalities, northern Italy, the Balkans, Austria, Prussia, Poland, Russia, Egypt, Spain, and Portugal in the span of 20 years earns you some longstanding animosity.
Uruanna@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 90d
Hold on, when was that? Was it after literally all the royal families in Europe banded together trying to punish the one country that dared murder their king, because they feared it would spread to their own country? When England kept sitting across the sea while funding multiple European coalitions to keep attacking over and over?
9bananas@feddit.org · 1 pts · 90d
to the general population the reasons really do not matter. didn't then, and not even now.
the question wasn't wether or not the animosity is justified, but where it comes from.
Uruanna@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 90d
It's okay, we don't hold a grudge against them for trying to enforce absolute monarchy by crushing a people that tried to break free from their tyranny. We just think they're pussies.
Zos_Kia@jlai.lu · 7 pts · 90d
I am french so super biased, but I think the joke is that nobody really hates the French so we're eligible to be joke-hated.
jambudz@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 90d
I love how the French are largely ungovernable, but yâall are definitely snooty. I remember having a French exchange student who refused to eat corn because it was for cows. And who refused to eat cheese in the us, even when it was properly fancy cheese. But he loved epoisse.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 90d
Only string cheese deluxe for our delightful French guests
NostraDavid@programming.dev · 2 pts · 90d
Ignorant fecker probably didn't know about sweet corn and though that cows are fed sweet corn or that has was being given regular corn đ
jambudz@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 90d
We gave him corn tortillas and didnât tell him what they were made from until after he loved them. Masa is beige gold.
Oodlenoodlenoo@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 89d
Them being ungovernable probably has a large roll for why media portrays them in a bad light.
I wouldn't think governments and corporations around the world would want their populations being more like the French
Jhex@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 91d
in Canada, we pretend hate anything about Toronto... but it's just a running joke, except the Leafs, they do suck for real
fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 90d
Napoleon. Also punching up is acceptable mostly.
one_old_coder@piefed.social · 4 pts · 90d
It's an old joke I guess. I'm French and I don't know why though. It give me an excuse to pretend I'm better than everyone else, everyone laughs, it's the point of the meme I guess, no need to think about it further.
Noobnarski@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 90d
In my experiences as a German visiting France a few times they are more pretentious about speaking french.
I feel like in other countries people care less about me not speaking their native language, most often we both just speak english and everything is fine.
And even if neither of us speaks any language of the other I feel people are more willing to communicate with hands and feet. In France they just look at you annoyed and hope you go away.
hansolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 90d
The English have tainted the English-speaking world's views on mainland Europe. Plus, the French lack of immediate support after 9/11 also started a wave of French hate. The infamous "freedom fries" stuff. Then, it's rare for the average American to meet real French people and disabuse Americans of stereotypes. Which, to be fair, aren't exactly wrong...in Paris. Once you get out in the country the French are generally pretty chill. New Yorkers aren't exactly universally friendly either, so it's sorry of a double standard IMO.
NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social · 2 pts · 91d
Obviously because of the attitude of the French people displayed here in the comments.
Ethalis@jlai.lu · 16 pts · 91d
Cliché about French people being pretentious exists => everyone hates the French => the French try to get in on the joke and pretend to be pretentious in the comments => cliché about French people is reinforced => etc.
cabillaud@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 90d
Can you point to those comments? Because I think I read one comment from a French guy and he is not sour or anything...
Oodlenoodlenoo@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 89d
I always thought it was the French don't take any shit from their government(or less than any other country I can think of) making governments and media push Anti-French smear campaigns hard.
If you want to control a population you don't want them getting to friendly or respecting the population that will riot whenever their government attempts to strip rights away.
Just an opinion though
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 26 pts · 91d
If there's something that unites Europeans more than anything in the world... that's their hate for the French.
I'm certain every European country has a different yet accurate slur to refer to them.
Damage@feddit.it · 40 pts · 91d
Yeah but fuck Americans when they criticise France. They're not allowed.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 26 pts · 91d
France might be a shithole. But it's OUR shithole. Don't they fucking dare saying a thing about France, we've gone to wars for much less.
D1re_W0lf@piefed.social · 9 pts · 90d
This.âïž Itâs like family. Only us can insult our brothers.
skulblaka@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 90d
Legitimately, France did so much to help early America (primarily to spite Britain, but whatever, we take those), and didn't just turn us into a French colony about it, and gets NO recognition at all for most of it. We owe them a certain ancestral debt of gratitude and respect which isn't really the case for the rest of Europe.
Some of us Americans love the French, most of us are indifferent, and a few like to jump on the European joke-hate(?) bandwagon without really understanding the context behind it. European banter is just legitimately different because y'all have thousands of years of cultural history behind it. We don't.
cabillaud@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 90d
Strangely enough, the US has never been at war with France.
Soapbox@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 90d
Yep. France is the USA's oldest ally. They helped us win our independence from Britain. We helped them kick out invading Germans twice.
There was a chance Napoleon might have set his eyes on the Americas if he had won in Europe. But we will never know.
I'm an American who actually likes France. I've visited before and plan to again. I've never really understood the hate from my fellow Americans. I think a lot of it started during the US invasion of Iraq when France refused to send troops. It was suddenly "freedom fries" and fuck the French propaganda everywhere, and I think its stuck. Despite most Americans knowing the Iraq war was a sham at this point.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 89d
I think before 2001 it had a different vibe. As a kid it felt like it was fairly present even back then, but thinking back on it now it was more of a "kid brother imitating their older sibling" vibe that probably came from imported European culture. Stuff like Monty Python or whatever making "everybody hates the French" jokes, where Americans just kinda ran with it without understanding the context of centuries of war in Europe that gave rise to an in-group joke that we are definitely not a part of, or felt that they were a part of the in-group because of their heritage as immigrants or something.
Also probably not helped by the fact that France's aid is generally glossed over in American history in favor of a more "pulled ourselves out of British tyranny by our bootstraps" narrative.
I doubt most Americans even know that the Statue of Liberty was a gift from France.
cabillaud@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 89d
Napoléon probably didn't plan anything for the US because it wasn't a monarchy. I mean he certainly would have invade the whole world in the end, but you get it. In fact he even sold Louisiana to the US to fund his wars, for a ridiculous price, particularly considering that Louisiana at the time was a really big chunk, extending to the Appalachians. The US never payed for it, iirc.
Soapbox@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 89d
Regarding the Louisiana purchase, I recall learning somewhere that Napoleon was happy to sell it to fund his European campaign, and figured when the time came he could just invade and take it back if he wanted.
fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 90d
Let's be honest for most Europeans dissing France is punching up. Even though the general American is not the personification of their country, from the outside, it's icky. Also
y'allthey lie or hyperfocus on the white flag bullshit, there's plenty legit petty bullshit to diss France about, no need to lie!Damage@feddit.it · 4 pts · 90d
I'm not American. I'm Italian. If there's a country in Europe whose citizens can beef with the French it's ours.
svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 90d
U wot m8
Damage@feddit.it · 3 pts · 90d
To paraphrase Corrado Guzzanti: "The English, people who went around butt-naked hunting marmots while we were already busy
stabbing Julius Caesar.killing Gauls"svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 90d
That's the Romans and the Gauls, though. France wasn't a thing until the 800s and Italy was invented by Garibaldi in 1861.
Damage@feddit.it · 1 pts · 90d
Won't stop the beef
fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 90d
Sorry my bad, I read your comment as you complaining. You were clearly making a strong statement, I agree <3
Also nah I'm Spaniard/Basque, I have zero knowledge on your beef but also full confidence we can beef more. Trust xD.
Damage@feddit.it · 2 pts · 90d
Idk aside from millennias of wars (since Rome vs Gauls to WWII), artistic competition (and thievery on their part!), renaissance, etc, I think we may have a little more beef.
Zombie@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 91d
Slur? Pfft, they're our auld pals!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auld_Alliance
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 90d
Scotland+France <3 4ever
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 91d
I don't know here we just say: "putain de français", maybe the Belgians have a more original way?
Orygin@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 91d
Putain de frouche I'd say
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 91d
Quebec people say "maudits Français".
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 15 pts · 91d
American: I'm 5% Italian!11!11!!11!one!
Same American when she comes to Florence: American students start a fire in their kitchen when they try to boil some pasta WITHOUT WATER.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 90d
Given how much it would smell before you reach fire, something doesn't add up.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 90d
It only takes one to unite europe. A frenchy.
France is our older brother so ofc we pick on him :3
clifmo@programming.dev · 10 pts · 90d
Is this some sort of Columbus stanning? Other europeana dissing on the French is like me calling Texans awful people.
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 90d
Are you a Texan or something?
clifmo@programming.dev · 3 pts · 90d
Worse, I'm a Florida man
IronBird@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 90d
i like bringing up to "irish" americans thaylt actual ireland doesn't consider them irish anymore
FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 90d
Americans who identify as Irish were granted their privileges in society/ heirarchy by breaking their ties with the native/Indians and the black man/woman. They often became everything the people of Ireland fought to oppose.
Thereâs a book called How the Irish became White that deals with this.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 90d
An Irish nationalist leader called out Irish-Americans for being racist towards Native Americans, and told Irish-Americans they are unsympathetic towards fellow oppressed folks.
FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 89d
Bernadette Devlin. She also gave her golden key to NY city to the Black Panthers, in solidarity with Black liberation. https://www.nytimes.com/1970/03/03/archives/irish-give-key-to-city-to-panthers-as-symbol.html
mat@jlai.lu · 8 pts · 91d
And we are vastly superior to anyone of you :P
one_old_coder@piefed.social · 2 pts · 90d
Baguette and rillettes for ever!
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 91d
This really is true, everyone is a white knight in the states
Jhex@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 91d
they all seem to be expert pearl clutchers in Murica... but when anything actually requires action or just a voice, they all start bleating
Soulg@ani.social · 3 pts · 90d
I'm just here for the ignorant euros talking out of their ass, it's like going to the zoo
canniest_tod@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 91d
Bada bing fuggetaboutit
zjti8eit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 89d
French Canadians are even weirder because they are really nice in a really mean way.