Woah. Didn't hear about that. I (nearly literally) live under a rock with some isopods, though, so that might explain why.
Turns out two things can be true: you can be a giant piece of shit, and still have the occasional good take, I guess.
Hey, behaviour wise, what do they most resemble? Do they recognise you? Do they like cuddling or any form of affection like other pets? Are they food driven? Can you teach them tricks or otherwise train them?
Dave did grow up in a sketchy neighborhood. Have you seen Yellow Springs? You can't throw a rock without hitting an artist. Those hippies are always sketching something
eta: and Yellow Springs, Ohio is a quiet little liberal town in the middle of deep red Trump cuntry, and is about as dangerous as Bergen when the sun is out
I wouldn't even call it the middle of deep red country. It's a day trip from Columbus (blue), Dayton (light blue), and kinda a schlep but doable from Cincinnati (blue). Its immediate surroundings are deep red except Springfield. But it's in the path of the 3 Cs
It's also where the republican party was formed, but that's because ohio really fucking hated slavery at the time.
It is kinda dangerous if you try to start shit at peaches. But yeah the danger is a single biker bar and the occasional fascist looking to start shit. Oh and quite a bit of drugs, but hippie drugs not the meth and heroin problem neighboring towns have.
Hitler loved dogs. Now think about how Trump is the only US president to have no pets, and dislike animals. Trump has less empathy โ is more sociopathic โ than Hitler.
Why is quoting a good thing they said somehow interpreted as rewriting history, especially when it's actually true that they said it? That's almost by definition, not "rewriting" history
It can be taken as an endorsement of his other views too and I'm sure there's plenty of people that aren't shit head bigots that have had a similar realization about the vulnerability of women.
No I fucking don't, fuck Dave Chappelle, he's transphobic piece of bigot shit, his Clayton Bigsby ass brought a fucking nazi on stage, he doesn't deserve anything but fucking derision.
What if it's just a good joke from early in his career which resonates with people, and reposting some of his better work doesn't actually mean you're writing history
The problem comes in that there's no clean way to promote a tainted subject. We aren't out here talking about the (VERY) minor positive qualities in Hitler's pre-politics paintings, or whether Ronald Reagan had decent acting chops.
There are plenty of other, less-massively-problematic comedians, artists, politicians, actors, and other public figures to promote and laud the work of that we really can just set aside the possibly decent contributions of otherwise bad people. It just doesn't matter enough. Find someone cool who did a good thing and talk about that instead.
Is it promoting someone to laugh at an old joke? I don't think anyone is saying this makes Dave chappel good?
I happen to be familiar with chappels work but let's say I wasn't. Am I supposed to get this random tweets sources before I laugh to check if I'm allowed to enjoy this artist?
Is this the same guy who at a show brought out his friend Elon Musk to loud BOOs, then snap that the BOOs were only coming from the cheap seats, ie "poor" people? The sooner Chapelle is forgotten the better for humanity. Every anecdote he tells about his past is a complete fabrication. One year he tells his parents died when he was young, the next year he will tell you about the lavish vacation he can afford to send them on. And when he gets called out on his bullshit he cowardly runs away to africa to let his PR people spin it as a sympathetic moment.
His parents were academics. I never said he was ghetto poor. Working class is working class. He was educated in public schools.
Do you have any evidence his family were "wealthy", or he "led a rich privileged upbringing"? If not, you're spreading lies and fake news; no better than any propagandist.
To be fair, he's not saying that's how he learned to understand it. He's using it as a way to help other people understand it. And the type of people who need the help probably understand the analogy.
Seventeen when he had the money, not when he said that in the special. He never said definitively when he made the connection between the two. For all we know it wasn't until he was writing the special and needed a segue and went "damn".
The important part is how people are definitely not reactionary nowadays, Our intellect has grown, we are evolving! We can tell, because we are always correct now, and always on moral high ground. Obviously. Anyone who would even question that is ignorant. We know this so deeply it evokes rage when anyone is ignorant enough to question what we know. It is obvious we were inherently on the correct side, because we actually took the time to figure it out and they just go with the stupid things they feel or have naively just accepted without questions. This is why they all need to shut up, and they all need to go. I mean, if they would just listen for a second or do some research like we did but no, their refusal to do so just proves their ignorance. I don't want to say we're superior, but you know, we just know more because we put in more work.
I have a pussy. I frolic around alone in bikinis and on nude beaches on a regular basis and everyone is respectful. The world is not as dangerous for women as Dave Chappelle imagines.
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jlow@slrpnk.net · 173 pts · 136d
Yeah, no.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/dave-chappelle-trans-jokes-republican-transphobia_n_69e140f2e4b0b6f552b8410e
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net · 129 pts · 136d
Woah. Didn't hear about that. I (nearly literally) live under a rock with some isopods, though, so that might explain why. Turns out two things can be true: you can be a giant piece of shit, and still have the occasional good take, I guess.
Valsa@mander.xyz · 37 pts · 136d
Do you have pet isopods?
obelisk_complex@piefed.ca · 38 pts · 136d
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net · 21 pts · 136d
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 135d
No man's sky?
Anne@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 136d
OMG it's so pretty! Does this surprisingly cute creature have a common name, or just isopod?
It's giving me eyeshadow inspo haha she's got my ideal pale princess colors.
brown567@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 134d
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 135d
Those look like giant fleas.
I would not feel comfortable
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 134d
There was a ramen restaurant in Taipei that was serving those things for awhile
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/taipei-eatery-serves-up-14-legged-isopods-in-its-65-ramen
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 134d
Mmm deliciousopod
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 134d
noo they killed the bell beast
Zwiebel@feddit.org · 3 pts · 136d
Do you have them in an aquarium?
Tangent5280@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 122d
Hey, behaviour wise, what do they most resemble? Do they recognise you? Do they like cuddling or any form of affection like other pets? Are they food driven? Can you teach them tricks or otherwise train them?
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 136d
I wish. I have dug enough pits, I probably have a dead one stuck in my sinuses or something
Lemming6969@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 134d
A tale as old as time.... Comedians get a pass. Everything is funny and comedy should be offensive to some, sometimes.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 144 pts · 136d
Dave Chappelle was lying about growing up in a sketchy neighborhood because it was good for his image.
SirSamuel@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 136d
Dave did grow up in a sketchy neighborhood. Have you seen Yellow Springs? You can't throw a rock without hitting an artist. Those hippies are always sketching something
Really good weed there too
TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 135d
Do artists only live in sketchy neighborhoods? Or am I missing some sarcasm or something
SirSamuel@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 135d
Sarcasm. Actually, a pun.
Artists.
Sketchy.
Sketching.
Like, you know, a quick drawing.
I'll^see^myself^out
eta: and Yellow Springs, Ohio is a quiet little liberal town in the middle of deep red Trump cuntry, and is about as dangerous as Bergen when the sun is out
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 135d
I wouldn't even call it the middle of deep red country. It's a day trip from Columbus (blue), Dayton (light blue), and kinda a schlep but doable from Cincinnati (blue). Its immediate surroundings are deep red except Springfield. But it's in the path of the 3 Cs
It's also where the republican party was formed, but that's because ohio really fucking hated slavery at the time.
It is kinda dangerous if you try to start shit at peaches. But yeah the danger is a single biker bar and the occasional fascist looking to start shit. Oh and quite a bit of drugs, but hippie drugs not the meth and heroin problem neighboring towns have.
SirSamuel@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 135d
I'd say that's a very fair analysis
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 135d
Yeah I've spent quite my fair share of time in that area lol
TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 135d
Ohhhhhohoho you got me ๐
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 29 pts · 136d
Ok, still a good joke though.
deft@lemmy.wtf · 0 pts · 135d
He's from DC. It was a bad place
SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 134d
he is from the us, it has always been a bad place
ceenote@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 135d
He's from the DC suburbs. Not quite the same.
deft@lemmy.wtf · -1 pts · 135d
Literally the murder capital of the US in the 80s
ceenote@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 135d
Literally did not live there.
Solumbran@lemmy.world · 113 pts · 136d
Yeah the guy is a huge piece of shit, so let's not try to rewrite history by spreading nice little stories made to make him look good.
Soulg@ani.social · 45 pts · 136d
Why are people allergic to the idea that bad people can say good and correct things too
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 135d
Hitler loved to play with kittens! He carried them around in his shirt pockets to keep them cozy and warm.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 135d
Hitler loved dogs. Now think about how Trump is the only US president to have no pets, and dislike animals. Trump has less empathy โ is more sociopathic โ than Hitler.
Hitler also didn't rape kids.
GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 135d
I do not like this picture, Charlie. It's smug aura mocks me!
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 135d
He molested his cousin iirc.
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 134d
It was his niece
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 134d
Hitler? Can't say I ever heard or read that one...
Solumbran@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 135d
Everyone says good stuff once in a while, so why focus on the pieces of shit exactly?
Soulg@ani.social · 5 pts · 135d
Why is quoting a good thing they said somehow interpreted as rewriting history, especially when it's actually true that they said it? That's almost by definition, not "rewriting" history
edible_funk@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 135d
It can be taken as an endorsement of his other views too and I'm sure there's plenty of people that aren't shit head bigots that have had a similar realization about the vulnerability of women.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 135d
Look, to be properly just, you need to aknowledge the good too in some peoole, whatever little they may have.
edible_funk@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 135d
No I fucking don't, fuck Dave Chappelle, he's transphobic piece of bigot shit, his Clayton Bigsby ass brought a fucking nazi on stage, he doesn't deserve anything but fucking derision.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 135d
There we go, that's the issue. People nowadays completely lost the plot, will downright make up crimes and get angry at them at this point.
You can't see what this implies long-term.
It won't take away from anything bad he did if you did talk about the good.
Zephorah@discuss.online · 19 pts · 136d
Louis CK is also a piece of shit, but he said similarly true things about men and women. Ask him how he knows.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 136d
Stopped clock
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 6 pts · 135d
What if it's just a good joke from early in his career which resonates with people, and reposting some of his better work doesn't actually mean you're writing history
Solumbran@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 135d
It's advertising him, and why would you want to do that?
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 135d
Assume I didn't know who Chappel was. How am supposed to know I'm not allowed to like this tweet?
Solumbran@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 135d
Liking his tweet is one thing, reposting it is endorsing it, and it's generally a god idea to check who someone is before endorsing them
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 135d
It's still a good joke and it's still a poignant message. It doesn't become not those because Chapelle sucks.
Solumbran@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 135d
If you attribute it to him, yes it does.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 135d
This is a stupid way to live
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 135d
The problem comes in that there's no clean way to promote a tainted subject. We aren't out here talking about the (VERY) minor positive qualities in Hitler's pre-politics paintings, or whether Ronald Reagan had decent acting chops.
There are plenty of other, less-massively-problematic comedians, artists, politicians, actors, and other public figures to promote and laud the work of that we really can just set aside the possibly decent contributions of otherwise bad people. It just doesn't matter enough. Find someone cool who did a good thing and talk about that instead.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 135d
Is it promoting someone to laugh at an old joke? I don't think anyone is saying this makes Dave chappel good?
I happen to be familiar with chappels work but let's say I wasn't. Am I supposed to get this random tweets sources before I laugh to check if I'm allowed to enjoy this artist?
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 135d
The net negative reaction my comment received suggests I'm not well-placed to respond to your question.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 134d
K
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 135d
Personally, I think ignoring that sort of complexity leaves you with a shallower understanding of the subject matter.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 135d
I wouldn't say I'm ignoring it, but that I'm usually choosing not to publicly engage with it.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 135d
Hmm, that is fair
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world · 71 pts · 136d
Is this the same guy who at a show brought out his friend Elon Musk to loud BOOs, then snap that the BOOs were only coming from the cheap seats, ie "poor" people? The sooner Chapelle is forgotten the better for humanity. Every anecdote he tells about his past is a complete fabrication. One year he tells his parents died when he was young, the next year he will tell you about the lavish vacation he can afford to send them on. And when he gets called out on his bullshit he cowardly runs away to africa to let his PR people spin it as a sympathetic moment.
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 60 pts · 136d
Dave chapelle kinda sucks shit. Still a well articulated point.
TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca · -2 pts · 135d
He sucks shit now, he told that joke when he was still pretty good.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 135d
Back when he was poor and punched up, before he became a mentally-ill oligarch whore who punches down.
edible_funk@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 135d
He was never actually poor, he came from a wealthy family. He led a rich privileged upbringing.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 134d
His parents were academics. I never said he was ghetto poor. Working class is working class. He was educated in public schools.
Do you have any evidence his family were "wealthy", or he "led a rich privileged upbringing"? If not, you're spreading lies and fake news; no better than any propagandist.
edible_funk@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 134d
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 133d
deft@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 135d
No he was rich then. This is after his step out of the limelight
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 135d
seggturkasz@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 134d
What?? The post was about none of those groups...
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 134d
Quokka@quokk.au · 34 pts · 136d
Dave Chapelle is a piece of bigoted shit and I will never let him live that down.
Bristlecone@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 135d
Unless he realizes the error of his ways and apologizes
Quokka@quokk.au · 8 pts · 135d
An apology wonโt undo the damage he has caused, nor will it be enough for me to not hate him.
Maybe spending the rest of his wealth and life to undo the damages might be enough.
Doug@piefed.social · 29 pts · 136d
Preemptively dissing disagreements is so fucking stupid. But I guess it drives engagement? Anyways, fuck Dave Chapelle.
Leviathan@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 135d
Oh look, a piece of shit needed to relate a commonly understood concept to money just to understand it.
AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip · 51 pts · 135d
To be fair, he's not saying that's how he learned to understand it. He's using it as a way to help other people understand it. And the type of people who need the help probably understand the analogy.
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 135d
Dude was seventeen, be serious
Leviathan@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 135d
Seventeen when he had the money, not when he said that in the special. He never said definitively when he made the connection between the two. For all we know it wasn't until he was writing the special and needed a segue and went "damn".
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org · 9 pts · 136d
Who has a 25K worth pussy?
Encephalotrocity@feddit.online · 15 pts · 135d
According to the judge: my ex wife.
Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 136d
I have spent more than 25k on my wife in the last 20 years...
testaccount789@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 136d
Pussy deluxe lifetime* subscription.
hedge_lord@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 135d
As of 2026 it costs around 20k USD to receive SRS at suporn clinic, in addition to travel fees.
Starduster75@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 135d
The important part is how people are definitely not reactionary nowadays, Our intellect has grown, we are evolving! We can tell, because we are always correct now, and always on moral high ground. Obviously. Anyone who would even question that is ignorant. We know this so deeply it evokes rage when anyone is ignorant enough to question what we know. It is obvious we were inherently on the correct side, because we actually took the time to figure it out and they just go with the stupid things they feel or have naively just accepted without questions. This is why they all need to shut up, and they all need to go. I mean, if they would just listen for a second or do some research like we did but no, their refusal to do so just proves their ignorance. I don't want to say we're superior, but you know, we just know more because we put in more work.
endless_nameless@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 134d
its cuz of all the mEdIa LiTeRaCy
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 135d
What apology?
BigDiction@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 135d
Analogy
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 134d
Oh. Yeah that makes more sense.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 134d
Surely there's a higher res version of this screenshot
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 135d
So if I pretend to be a pussy haver, I can lure a few potential predators into a guilt-free beatdown?
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 134d
if ur identity were found, that news headline would be useful for transphobes
a way better thing for u to do is to gift swords to women
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 134d
Damn, I'm not a swordsmith. But handing out daggers, like the ones used by special forces would be perfect.
Maybe a bit overkill for harassers. Just use an electric stun baton or mace spray.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 134d
u could buy them swords
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 134d
I ration spam
ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 134d
Iโm not sure objectifying our vaginas is as feminist as he thought it was, but the sketchy feeling feels right
JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -10 pts · 136d
I have a pussy. I frolic around alone in bikinis and on nude beaches on a regular basis and everyone is respectful. The world is not as dangerous for women as Dave Chappelle imagines.