I also wouldn't assume that he doesn't believe it, I could believe either outcome equally. Nevertheless, it's how Rimu chose to present it, and how Rimu chose to present it is baseless.
Yeah I know what it is like to get targeted by people on lemmy like Sunshine but also I never tried to embrace, extend and extinguish lemmy while building tools to silence people. I just had opinions on an instance I paid for and ran.
Oh lordy, ever have one of those moments when you know you're about to do something dumb, but do it anyway? Well, I would ask that you folks stop for a moment, and observe this situation from an outsider's perspective. From where I sit, this very thread right here looks like a harassment campaign.
I'm outside this community. I mostly engage on different platforms but check in here sometimes to see what's going on. I read this thread, and I looked at the replies you received and thought about how I might feel being on the receiving end.
I realized that everything everyone said to you was pretty accurate and fully understandable given the way you came in here and what you were saying. If I were on the receiving end, honestly I would feel ashamed for being such a public chucklefuck and nuisance to have gotten that well deserved excoriation, but then I'd do some self crit and resolve not to be such a twit in the future. Then I'd feel a bit better having learned from my foolishness.
Something tells me that's not what you're going to do though. You're going to pretend you were the innocent victim of a bunch of meanies who were mean to you out of nowhere and nothing you said or did could have been good reason for how mean those meanies were. Am I correct? Or are you going to do the right thing and self crit?
I don't actually think that software is necessarily neutral, and that for this sort of thing to be successful in the current landscape it MUST be Marxists who make it. Take Bluesky, for example. Or OpenAI is perhaps a better example. Maybe this breaks some people out of the "Elon bad -> Dorsey good" cycle of analysis as to why lemmy exists and maybe leads them to question the use of the "tankie" perjorative in general.
Personally I don't see why the views of those that write software should really concern us, as long as the technical implementation is not biased. It's open-source and people can take it and do with it what they please. No-one is forcing you to accept certain views or think about things critically (including assessing others viewpoints that may be different to yours). I feel like it's a bit of a waste of time to worry about these things.
Tale as old as time...I've seen it so many times in my professional life and also in activism. Hell, I've done it.
Things look so easy from the outside. All the flaws seem like they can be fixed without much effort, why can't the people in charge see it? Then you rush in and try to do it yourself without an understanding of why things are the way they are and BAM you hit a wall. Suddenly things aren't so easy. Suddenly you can't fix all the mistakes. And you are making new ones.
I'm not saying people shouldn't try new things, but rushing in without trying to take some lessons from the existing systems without judgement is foolishness.
I've never been able to talk myself out of anything. Like I will have the entire thought process and think maybe it's a bad idea, and I shouldn't speak my mind, but I really want to so I do. It has not yielded good results
According to Korean/German philosopher Byung-Chul Han, we live in a burnout society, so even if the person is peculiar, burnout is a serious issue in our society and everyone of us could suffer from it.
The theme can be answered a number of different ways.
In one sense, I strive to at least support (if not outright focus on) minorities rather than simply catering to the mononormative.
In another sense, one goal that doesn't directly relate to dating is to offer a platform that is independent (of Match Group) and EU-centric in terms of both client focus and technical infrastructure.
I want to bring back a lot of what has been lost to enshittification in other apps, things I've personally been missing and also seen being a common complaint when dating apps in general are discussed online. If you've been on, say, OkC more than a year, you'll probably remember valuable, useful features that just aren't there anymore.
If you've been on any dating app, you know how icky and frustrating and just straight up annoying the apps themselves are (before you even factor in the behaviour of the users, and their reasons).
Ideally, a dating app should have massive amounts of transient users. If you have users who've been there for years, you're not giving them what they want (but you might be giving them something else in order to keep them hooked...).
So as for the monetary goal, there are many gates that must be passed before finances become a critical issue. I've published things as open source, and if six users find you, you have six happy users. A dating app not only requires a massive amount of users, it also requires significant local user density for it to be useful. I am fundamentally aiming for low cost of upkeep with the goal of enabling the app to survive having relatively few users, even if they aren't paying much.
I can say this much: I've done the math and am pretty confident in being able to deliver at a fraction of the cost of any existing offering. My plan is to offer no free tier (huge barrier, I am aware) but then offer a very-reasonably-priced paid tier that unlocks everything. I want the app to be transparent, helpful, and eschewing dark patterns and money-grabbing schemes. I don't expect you to believe it, but I'm not doing this for the purpose of profit; I just don't think a dating app that's entirely free is going to work very well vis-a-vis attracting high-quality participants.
Do I think I've "cracked" or "solved" online dating? Absolutely not. There are things I know I will never do, other things I know I'll be (almost) the only one to do, and a number of topics and issues that I don't know even can be resolved in any meaningful way.
86 Comments
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 69 pts · 127d
Fun fact, Rimu takes after George Orwell and keeps lists of "undesirables:"
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 27 pts · 127d
Does anyone have the list of extremely cool and sexy posters?
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 127d
I think it's the same list 😎
Goferking0@ttrpg.network · 12 pts · 127d
Idk, not the list I'd see myself on 😂
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 127d
You'll get there!
hamid@crazypeople.online · 25 pts · 127d
I'm also deleted from piefed.social but not special enough for the list. I never coordinated with anyone, I just meme what comes naturally!
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 27 pts · 127d
To be fair, there's no evidence that any of us coordinated anything, it's just what Rimu personally believes.
iByteABit@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 127d
acts in an extremely hypocritical and provocative way that naturally raises lots of questions from many people
noo why are they're coordinating attacks against me they need to be banned from everywhere ðŸ˜
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 127d
Yea it's all self-inflicted.
Diva@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 127d
how dare people read the posts he makes and have opinions!
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 127d
Yep, truly.
davel@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 127d
I wouldn’t assume he believes what he says.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 127d
I also wouldn't assume that he doesn't believe it, I could believe either outcome equally. Nevertheless, it's how Rimu chose to present it, and how Rimu chose to present it is baseless.
hamid@crazypeople.online · 16 pts · 127d
Yeah I know what it is like to get targeted by people on lemmy like Sunshine but also I never tried to embrace, extend and extinguish lemmy while building tools to silence people. I just had opinions on an instance I paid for and ran.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 127d
Fair lol
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · -18 pts · 127d
Oh lordy, ever have one of those moments when you know you're about to do something dumb, but do it anyway? Well, I would ask that you folks stop for a moment, and observe this situation from an outsider's perspective. From where I sit, this very thread right here looks like a harassment campaign.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 127d
Not sure how you see that. This list came out, and people are reacting to it.
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · -14 pts · 127d
Look at the other replies I've received, and think about how people outside of your online community might feel being on the receiving end.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 127d
Look at the way Rimu is treating people, and think about how people within that community might feel being on the receiving end.
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip · -9 pts · 127d
Ah, so we judge actions not by their merit, but by who performs them? Or, put another way, if you wrestle a pig, you both get muddy.
LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 126d
I'm outside this community. I mostly engage on different platforms but check in here sometimes to see what's going on. I read this thread, and I looked at the replies you received and thought about how I might feel being on the receiving end.
I realized that everything everyone said to you was pretty accurate and fully understandable given the way you came in here and what you were saying. If I were on the receiving end, honestly I would feel ashamed for being such a public chucklefuck and nuisance to have gotten that well deserved excoriation, but then I'd do some self crit and resolve not to be such a twit in the future. Then I'd feel a bit better having learned from my foolishness.
Something tells me that's not what you're going to do though. You're going to pretend you were the innocent victim of a bunch of meanies who were mean to you out of nowhere and nothing you said or did could have been good reason for how mean those meanies were. Am I correct? Or are you going to do the right thing and self crit?
hamid@crazypeople.online · 16 pts · 127d
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 127d
-100 Piefed social credit
Goferking0@ttrpg.network · 10 pts · 127d
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWJmY2Q2MDNibGN5cDBma3Fqc2Fjbmcxbm96ZHVtdnhpdmRzY3pxMXIzdXJ5ZmVxMSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/uUilvMFiKiw3x2ZGWZ/200w.gif
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 126d
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 127d
Two years I've been posting communist propaganda straight from Bezos's mouth, what have I been doing wrong that I'm not on the list 😔
I'm not upset, just would've been nice to be recognized
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 127d
We'll all get into the hall of fame eventually, comrade 🫡
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 127d
Fuck, I am not on the cool club list.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 127d
Better try harder to get on it for rev 2!
eldavi@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 127d
i'm somehow disappointed that i didn't make the list. lol
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 127d
We'll all get there one day lol
iByteABit@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 127d
aaayyyyyyyyy we're in baby
(this is such fed activity btw, what are the chances this guy isn't a fed lol)
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 19 pts · 127d
A fed getting paid to do this wouldn't exhaust themselves to the point of burnout.
iByteABit@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 127d
yeah probably just an imperialist for the love of the game
TiredTiger@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 127d
Honestly, that's probably even more cringe than being a fed.
TiredTiger@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 127d
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 127d
We made it to the cool club 😎
ferric_carcinization@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 127d
A hall of fame I kind of want to be in. Perhaps I should take up posting.
P.S. I noticed that your image is missing alt text. Something like "Long list of users who allegedly harass Rimu" would probably fit.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 127d
I forget, how do you add alt-text again? I keep forgetting the right way to do it.
ferric_carcinization@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 127d
The syntax for images in markdown is
.
Edit: Feels ridiculous to have to use a real image for this. Lemmy really seems to dislike image-like formatting in code blocks.
Edie@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 127d
ferric_carcinization@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 127d
But it shouldn't do that when enclosed in a code/preformatted block?
Edie@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 127d
It shouldn't but the markdown parser is for whatever reason not that good.
ferric_carcinization@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 127d
Looks like it's using markdown-it, a Rust port of a JavaScript library with the same name.
It looks unmaintained. Last commit is from 2 years ago and issues look inactive. (including one asking asking about the maintenance status)
mathemachristian@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 127d
::: spoiler wrong I think it's
:::Edie@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 127d
No it is alt text in the square brackets and title in the quotations
mathemachristian@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 127d
lets test it
yeah you're right
<img src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/c09846dd-823e-4dc8-a486-f10a5696b620.webp?format=webp" alt="PFLP poster" title="PFLP poster that says 'Do you commend hamas?'">could have sworn I saw it the other way around and thought it weird which is why I remembered it but apparently it's not like that...
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 127d
Used to do that all the time but a certain someone got all my carefully labeled images nuked when they got banned.
My apologies to my differently sighted people out there. I hope I can be strong for you once more.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 127d
Thanks!
ferric_carcinization@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 127d
Nice alt text, very concise!
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 127d
Thanks!
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 126d
I'm so insulted by not being on that list!
housedogpartyfavor@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 126d
new life goal
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 126d
Seems people that post more than comment weren't on the list, or maybe I am not familiar enough with the others.
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 126d
I guess to be fair I never actually posted anything on piefed, I just called him out when he came to troll on lemmy.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 126d
I didn't either, lol. Just @'d a certain "history major" social fascist from a Lemmy.ml thread, debunking claims about the 1930s soviet famine.
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 126d
lmao that's definitely a bannable offence
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 126d
For the devout anti-communist Rimu? Absolutely. Here's the MOG thread discussing it.
::: spoiler CW: Ableism, misgendering
:::
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 126d
these people just can't help tell on themselves
codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 126d
Haha wow, I can't believe I made the list for calling him an asshole that time. I was wondering why there was so much less crap on my feed lately.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 126d
To be fair, being banned does not mean you do not see it, just that they do not see you.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 126d
Did he miss mine?
ApertureUA@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 126d
mathemachristian@lemmy.ml · 42 pts · 127d
oooh so sorry, but that's a meme. -12 piefed score, also your instance is now shadowbanned. Gotta deal with the consequences of your actions chief...
MoonMelon@lemmy.ml · 37 pts · 127d
I don't actually think that software is necessarily neutral, and that for this sort of thing to be successful in the current landscape it MUST be Marxists who make it. Take Bluesky, for example. Or OpenAI is perhaps a better example. Maybe this breaks some people out of the "Elon bad -> Dorsey good" cycle of analysis as to why lemmy exists and maybe leads them to question the use of the "tankie" perjorative in general.
hamid@crazypeople.online · 26 pts · 127d
go_go_gadget@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 127d
I'm assuming "tankie" is what liberals call leftists?
Calfpupa@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 127d
And what leftists that support bourgeois ideologies call other leftists.
GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 127d
I agree. "The medium is the message" also implies that the medium cannot be neutral.
tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net · 1 pts · 127d
Personally I don't see why the views of those that write software should really concern us, as long as the technical implementation is not biased. It's open-source and people can take it and do with it what they please. No-one is forcing you to accept certain views or think about things critically (including assessing others viewpoints that may be different to yours). I feel like it's a bit of a waste of time to worry about these things.
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 35 pts · 127d
Tale as old as time...I've seen it so many times in my professional life and also in activism. Hell, I've done it.
Things look so easy from the outside. All the flaws seem like they can be fixed without much effort, why can't the people in charge see it? Then you rush in and try to do it yourself without an understanding of why things are the way they are and BAM you hit a wall. Suddenly things aren't so easy. Suddenly you can't fix all the mistakes. And you are making new ones.
I'm not saying people shouldn't try new things, but rushing in without trying to take some lessons from the existing systems without judgement is foolishness.
clif@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 127d
My secret is that I talk myself out of it before I even start : D
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 7 pts · 127d
Wise af
YawningNostalgia@thelemmy.club · 3 pts · 126d
I've never been able to talk myself out of anything. Like I will have the entire thought process and think maybe it's a bad idea, and I shouldn't speak my mind, but I really want to so I do. It has not yielded good results
GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 127d
According to Korean/German philosopher Byung-Chul Han, we live in a burnout society, so even if the person is peculiar, burnout is a serious issue in our society and everyone of us could suffer from it.
clif@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 127d
Checking in.
So glad I have two days off work next week... So I can do chores and home maintenance.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 127d
Im happy everyone gets to use lemmy and to make it their own. Feuding between instances is cringe. This is all our fediverse comrades.
thatsnomayo@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 127d
Perhaps the guy weaponizing the software for anticommunist censorship should take that to heart, not the vegan (btw) pointing it out
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 126d
Dot emm ell user huh? The, heretic, the!
noughtnaut@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 126d
This is somewhat relatable: I'm building a dating app without blackjack and hookers. Well, at least without the blackjack.
Not gonna lie, it's not a weekend project! And that's before even considering the eventual launch and marketing.
folaht@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 126d
Will your dating site have a theme?
Is there a monetary goal behind it and if so,
how would you deal with the service becoming a huge success,
while consequently memberships drop?
noughtnaut@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 126d
Thank you for asking.
The theme can be answered a number of different ways.
Ideally, a dating app should have massive amounts of transient users. If you have users who've been there for years, you're not giving them what they want (but you might be giving them something else in order to keep them hooked...).
So as for the monetary goal, there are many gates that must be passed before finances become a critical issue. I've published things as open source, and if six users find you, you have six happy users. A dating app not only requires a massive amount of users, it also requires significant local user density for it to be useful. I am fundamentally aiming for low cost of upkeep with the goal of enabling the app to survive having relatively few users, even if they aren't paying much.
I can say this much: I've done the math and am pretty confident in being able to deliver at a fraction of the cost of any existing offering. My plan is to offer no free tier (huge barrier, I am aware) but then offer a very-reasonably-priced paid tier that unlocks everything. I want the app to be transparent, helpful, and eschewing dark patterns and money-grabbing schemes. I don't expect you to believe it, but I'm not doing this for the purpose of profit; I just don't think a dating app that's entirely free is going to work very well vis-a-vis attracting high-quality participants.
Do I think I've "cracked" or "solved" online dating? Absolutely not. There are things I know I will never do, other things I know I'll be (almost) the only one to do, and a number of topics and issues that I don't know even can be resolved in any meaningful way.
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 127d