It's kinda weird that the first time I heard of Charlie Kirk was the time he got shot.
I'm just browsing Lemmy and the headlines were "CHARLIE KIRK JUST GOT SHOT AT A RALLY!!!"
And my first reaction was "Oh no! Also, who is that?"
And then I started learning who he was. So now I know that he was a gun advocate who held rallys calling for more gun violence. From that perspective I now know that he died doing what he loved. Getting shot.
All these rumplovers were asking how the young knew and wanted “socialism” .
They saw all the good stuff Mandami was touting and said all that makes sense, that’s what we want. Hmmm sounds like it’s good common sense from the youngsters IMO.
Oic, weird, in Oz we just have a 0% tax rate for everything under 20k(ish)AUD, seems like a lot of extra steps to have tax rates listed for inconsequential amounts and then make people claim a deduction for those. Does the standard deduction apply to everyone or is it just if you earn less than the fixed amount? Because the latter would then penalise people for earning slightly more than the fixed amount which seems unfair ..
The standard deduction is for everyone. There is a different figure for married/joint filers as well I think.
The only time it makes sense not to use it is if your job has lots of individual itemized deductions that add up to more than the standard deduction (most jobs don't).
If you make less than the standard deduction (which isn't a whole lot. I think like $16k for 2025), and know it, you can just choose to not have any taxes withheld from your check. Then when you file your taxes, you will owe nothing. I believe you'd also get a refund for the difference between the standard deduction, and your taxable income.
But yeah, everyone can claim it I think.
Edit: I'm second guessing the last part about people making less than the standard deduction getting a return for the difference... Wouldn't that mean that someone could work for one day and then get a $16k check from the IRS? I'm sure I'm overlooking something...
The Married filing joint figure is...just 2x the single one.
But to your question, no. A deduction just reduces the value you are taxed on. That's different from a fully refundable credit, which you get back the value of whether your earnings are above it or not. There are also nonrefundable credits which are not much different from a deduction, only bring you to 0, not negative tax owed.
I don't feel like I have a strong answer to that, other than there is a standard deduction applied to all federal tax returns. I suppose this would effectively give you the "tax free" bracket?
Yeah that seems likely given how the US does everything else, make that shit as complicated as possible so someone can fleece someone else and maybe leave some loopholes that someone in the know can exploit ..
My wife is an accountant and according to her that's precisely the reason. Tax software is a major racket, and they spend a lot to make sure the tax code remains unnecessarily complex.
We do, but it's laughably low compared to the cost of living. It also only exempts you from personal income tax, not the other two major federal taxes that fund Medicare and Social Security. The majority of states also impose their own income tax, and the rules for how those are applied can vary wildly.
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Blackfeathr@lemmy.world · 98 pts · 103d
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 55 pts · 103d
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 103d
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 103d
It's kinda weird that the first time I heard of Charlie Kirk was the time he got shot.
I'm just browsing Lemmy and the headlines were "CHARLIE KIRK JUST GOT SHOT AT A RALLY!!!"
And my first reaction was "Oh no! Also, who is that?"
And then I started learning who he was. So now I know that he was a gun advocate who held rallys calling for more gun violence. From that perspective I now know that he died doing what he loved. Getting shot.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 103d
If you're American, it's impressive you managed to avoid him!
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 103d
I avoid everybody. Humans are the worst.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 103d
Well, avoid hearing about him. You're on the internet, so some things are hard to avoid knowing about no matter how misanthropic you are!
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 103d
I never heard of him before he got shot either. 🤷
Blibly@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 103d
I love this guy he's hilarious. What has he been up to?
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 69 pts · 103d
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 103d
Every time I do, it makes me
DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 103d
He hasn't released any new content in months.
FaceDeer@fedia.io · 23 pts · 103d
I heard he started to lean left.
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 37 pts · 103d
At least he leaned left in the end
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 102d
SHOTS FIRED!
Ravenheart@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 103d
Socialism isn't a bigger minimum wage. Socialism is when the workers control the means of production and own the fruits of their labor.
elbiter@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 103d
Socialism, for the dumb, is like a gross word they use to trigger a reaction.
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 102d
All these rumplovers were asking how the young knew and wanted “socialism” .
They saw all the good stuff Mandami was touting and said all that makes sense, that’s what we want. Hmmm sounds like it’s good common sense from the youngsters IMO.
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thlibos@thelemmy.club · 22 pts · 103d
Dead grifter is dead.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 22 pts · 103d
Dishonest for sure. Stupid people aren't this good at propaganda.
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 103d
And it works. I had to talk my sister down from being upset over her raise. Was surreal that she thought it would mean less take home.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 103d
What a great year, too bad all those other guys are still saying dumb and racist things. Really looking forward to when they'll be silenced.
TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 16 pts · 103d
I have good news for you
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 102d
db2@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 103d
Charlie was really wearing his heart on his sleeve. And his collar. And his chest. And the pavement.
waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 103d
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 103d
Face isn't tiny enough
Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 103d
Wait, do Americans not have a tax free threshold?
SparroHawc@piefed.world · 20 pts · 103d
Yep. It's called the standard deduction. If you make less than that, you pay zero income tax.
Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 103d
Oic, weird, in Oz we just have a 0% tax rate for everything under 20k(ish)AUD, seems like a lot of extra steps to have tax rates listed for inconsequential amounts and then make people claim a deduction for those. Does the standard deduction apply to everyone or is it just if you earn less than the fixed amount? Because the latter would then penalise people for earning slightly more than the fixed amount which seems unfair ..
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 103d
The standard deduction is for everyone. There is a different figure for married/joint filers as well I think.
The only time it makes sense not to use it is if your job has lots of individual itemized deductions that add up to more than the standard deduction (most jobs don't).
If you make less than the standard deduction (which isn't a whole lot. I think like $16k for 2025), and know it, you can just choose to not have any taxes withheld from your check. Then when you file your taxes, you will owe nothing. I believe you'd also get a refund for the difference between the standard deduction, and your taxable income.
But yeah, everyone can claim it I think.
Edit: I'm second guessing the last part about people making less than the standard deduction getting a return for the difference... Wouldn't that mean that someone could work for one day and then get a $16k check from the IRS? I'm sure I'm overlooking something...
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 103d
The Married filing joint figure is...just 2x the single one.
But to your question, no. A deduction just reduces the value you are taxed on. That's different from a fully refundable credit, which you get back the value of whether your earnings are above it or not. There are also nonrefundable credits which are not much different from a deduction, only bring you to 0, not negative tax owed.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 103d
They don't pay the difference, but it is possible to get something back if you're below the SD via credits like EIC or CTC.
brian@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 103d
I don't feel like I have a strong answer to that, other than there is a standard deduction applied to all federal tax returns. I suppose this would effectively give you the "tax free" bracket?
Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 103d
Yeah that sort of makes sense, seems like a lot of extra steps for no reason ..
MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social · 9 pts · 103d
I think the "no reason" might be TurboTax/Intuit/that one tax filing company named after a couple or whatever
Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 103d
Yeah that seems likely given how the US does everything else, make that shit as complicated as possible so someone can fleece someone else and maybe leave some loopholes that someone in the know can exploit ..
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 103d
My wife is an accountant and according to her that's precisely the reason. Tax software is a major racket, and they spend a lot to make sure the tax code remains unnecessarily complex.
too_high_for_this@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 102d
H&R Block
MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social · 1 pts · 102d
Yup. That's the one.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 103d
Republicans do this thing where they lie about everything to make reasonable things sound bad to stupid people.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 103d
We do, but it's laughably low compared to the cost of living. It also only exempts you from personal income tax, not the other two major federal taxes that fund Medicare and Social Security. The majority of states also impose their own income tax, and the rules for how those are applied can vary wildly.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 103d
He 100% started with $7.20 and did the rest in a way that let him back into that number
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 103d
elbiter@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 103d
Facts:
(Last time I checked, facts were not that, but... Nevermind, the fuck is dead)
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 102d
Rest in piss!
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 102d
Facts: He dead.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 103d
Is his corpse still being filmed and molested by his wife?
If the answer is no then I demand to know why it isn't.
ccunning@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 103d
Brandolini's law in a nutshell…
A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 103d
Also expressed in countless proverbs around the world.
postcapitalism@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 103d
Stop posting this looser
kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 102d
A year? No. It can't be?
thermal_shock@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 102d
Nah, it's Sept 10. You'll have a happy day, then a sad day right after.
Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 103d
Isn't 7.2 currently minimum wage and consequently, if Charlie would have been right, the government had more money... and that is bad?
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 2 pts · 103d
I feel like this one already stinks to high heaven. About time for the next one
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 102d
Did he actually say this or is this dumbassery made up and attached to his name? He was full of shit, but was he mathematically an imbecile, too?
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 103d
Good riddance. What a disingenuous piece of shit.
MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 103d
Pretty sure he's dishonest
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 103d
*was
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 102d
Curious.
sploder@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 102d
crystalmerchant@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 103d
$15 x 40 hours = $600
cathfish@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 103d
Wow I didn't know that usa people can't understand basic mathematics. Like percentile. That explains a lot of things I guess. Sad.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 103d
Just as long as Bernie pays their share