Jab brought ‘unprecedentedly strong responses’ in patients whose disease had become resistant to chemotherapy and immunotherapy
In an international trial spanning 11 countries, the injection was offered to patients whose cancer had spread or come back and whose disease had failed to respond to other treatments.
In the trial, 102 patients with head and neck cancer, the world’s sixth most common cancer, were given the jab. Tumours shrank or disappeared completely in 43 patients, including 28 whose tumours shrank significantly and 15 who saw them eradicated entirely.
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adespoton@lemmy.ca · 112 pts · 84d
I guess we can’t expect better than “the jab” from “the guardian.”
Test subjects were administered Amivantamab.
doughless@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 84d
England has referred to vaccines as jabs long before it started to be used as a pejorative.
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 84d
Nobody is confusing which meaning they meant.
Use of the word to mean vaccine is just reductive and awfully informal.
rollin@piefed.social · 10 pts · 83d
it doesn't mean vaccine, it just means an injection of any kind - at least in the UK
Nollij@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 83d
I remember reading somewhere that (especially) Russian disinformation campaigns learned British English. They, pretending to be American anti-vaxxers, spread it to the dialect of the dumbest Americans.
'Jab' is basically a case study in skipped localization.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 84d
But this drug is not a vaccine.
If you do not understand the difference between a monoclonal antibody and a vaccine, fuck off down voters.
Aatube@piefed.social · -1 pts · 83d
—https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/feb/04/why-do-we-call-vaccinations-jabs
colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 84d
OOTL: what’s wrong with jab?
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 84d
It's just awfully informal and reductive for something life-saving and sophisticated.
Imagine a paramedic saves your life and you call them a meatsack.
Pissmidget@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 84d
I would most likely have said they were shocking someone, rather than administering defibrillation, though both are just round about ways of saying they were turning someone's heart off and on again.
The fact they administered what I consider a mind blowing treatment by way of jab just goes to show what amazing things humans can do.
TheTetrapod@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 84d
I've only heard it in the context of antivaxxers. Apparently it goes back further in the UK, but that's when it broke containment.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 84d
All the antivax bullshit started from the piece of shit grifter doctor Andrew Wakefield back in the 90s in the UK.
VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 84d
Well, the guy who kinda caused the modern anti vax movement is an UK export, might be that.
altphoto@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 84d
My parents fucked to have me.
Vs:
My parents had sex to have me.
Or even:
my parents were on the bed doggy style, when my mom was on hands and knees on the bed while my dad was behind here thrusting his huge penis into her very tight vagina over and over. She loved every second of it and so did he. They loved eachother very much and entrusted eachother enough to allow this raw behaviour into their bedroom each night of every day. As the penis reached climax, it injected billions upon billions of spermatozoids into her vaginal cavity. Each sperm only had one goal.... Swim, swim! If the egg is encountered then go into it to inject the DNA that would become me. All but one would encounter they demise.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 84d
Yes, they say as much in the article
anzo@programming.dev · 2 pts · 84d
Just checked the wikipedia page. This compound is only specific for certain types of tumors (epidermal growth factor receptor, EGFR, exon 20 insertion mutations.)
I was afraid this could be all fake. But not, is just clickbaity reporting.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 84d
Cancer is over 300 different diseases. Some are curable, others are not, some drugs works wonders for some types of cancer and do nothing for others.
Anytime you read "cure for cancer" it will be clickbait bullshit, what the Guardian is famous for.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 84d
I wish the media would stop calling a shot a “jab”. Ever since COVID everyone calls any kinda shot a “jab”.
Aatube@piefed.social · 5 pts · 83d
The UK has always called it a jab and headlines are optimized for length. This sentiment is just US defaultism.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/feb/04/why-do-we-call-vaccinations-jabs
NYP's equivalent is The Sun.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 82d
I get the point your making however US media now uses it as well…
Aatube@piefed.social · 1 pts · 82d
And we should just bend over our language just because Americans find it funny?
I don't see that either: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22jab%22&tbm=nws
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 84d
It's the Guardian. The New York Post of the UK.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 84d
I thought that was the daily mail
Nutteman@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 84d
No the daily mail is the toilet paper analog in the UK
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 84d
The Guardian is still a better in most regards. However, I think their quality of journalism is gradually declining over the years.
Aatube@piefed.social · 1 pts · 83d
Not even close. The Guardian is way better and the only English (as in England) news source that is independent. It's extremely good.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 34 pts · 84d
I hope whomever patents it gives it away.
TheOneAndOnly@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 84d
Johnson and Johnson, so... Not likely.
clucose@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 84d
Pharma is not about curing people it‘s about constant medication. Otherwise the profits are less.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 84d
Sure, which is why pharma doesn't make antibiotics? Right?
clucose@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 84d
Do we have a cancer cure vaccine despite all those findings in the past 20 years? Where are all those wonder cures? Probably in some drawer.
TAG@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 83d
There were the cures that worked in theory but did not work in actual cells. There were the cures that worked on mice but did not work on humans. There were the cures that cure cancer but have a higher fatality rate than the cancer. Those cases cover just about every cancer "cure" you read about in the news.
Then there are all the cures that work for some people some of the time. Big pharma has patented them and is selling them for enough money to cover all of the other cures that did not work (and give everyone a very nice bonus).
Seriously, if some phara company could cure cancer, why wouldn't they? They can sell it for 100k per treatment, make enough money for each of the 10 biggest investors to buy a small country, and then close up shop.
clucose@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 83d
Here some stuff to read: https://www.huckmag.com/article/pharmanomics-excerpt-big-pharma-hiv-aids-price-gouging-shkreli-who-hub-mrna-abbvie-
TAG@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
I assume that the article is supposed to support the point I was making? Most of it is talking about how big pharma invents new medicines and then sells that at a very large profit, which harms people in poor countries who are more likely to need treatments for diseases like HIV but have the hardest time paying for them.
harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 84d
If they don't, it still won't stop India from flooding the market with the generic versions.
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 33 pts · 84d
Woah, this is HUGE. That's so cool! Good things are still happening! Woo!
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net · 31 pts · 84d
Cant wait for the antivaxxers do backflips over this
OpenStars@piefed.social · 11 pts · 84d
Some movies like "I Am Legend" have this as their plot, where it does not end well, so they are already prepared.
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
I think it's a zombie book called Feed where the zombie apocalypse is brought about by two generically engineered cures, one for the common cold and the other for cancer. The upshot is that there's no more common cold and there's no more cancer, but there is a zombie apocalypse so that's a bit of a downside.
OpenStars@piefed.social · 1 pts · 83d
So long as Will Smith is in it - surely nothing can be bad in a situation as long as he is involved? (/s btw 🤪)
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 84d
It's not a vaccine.
AnalogRegression@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 83d
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 84d
This just in, the Trump administration has banned this medication.
Spacehooks@reddthat.com · 14 pts · 84d
"Cancer is nurgles gift" or something
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 84d
its a biologic medication, the suffix ending with -mab always is associated with biologic. if you have psoriasis they use these kinds to treat them, or an autoimmune disease.
lol_idk@piefed.social · 13 pts · 84d
MAB Monoclonal antibody
T156@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 84d
Weird that the headline and snippet implies that it supplants immunotherapy, when it sounds like an immunotherapy.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 84d
Guardian has no clue on medical articles.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 84d
This isn't so much a jab as an upper cut
AnalogRegression@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 84d
Can we please stop saying "jab"?
Zombie@feddit.uk · 16 pts · 84d
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 84d
Matty_r@programming.dev · 2 pts · 84d
Bring me da Wookie!
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 84d
Jabba jabba nipple ringy.
Aatube@piefed.social · 1 pts · 83d
It's been a standard Britishism for a century.
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 84d
But what about all the people who have died from cancer‽‽‽ Is their sacrifice in vain?
/s of course
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 84d
There's such an insane percentage of people that this is real life for.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 84d
This might surprise you, but if there was a magic drug to cure all cancer, for free, it would make a difference of 36 months to average lifespans.
uberdroog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
Every moment is valuable
mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 84d
"Now get back to work."
stiephelando@discuss.tchncs.de · 16 pts · 84d
Beats dying
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 84d
If you're in decent health
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 84d
Or have a government that ensures the health and welfare of its populace.
bridgeburner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 84d
Not really. Death means eternal oblivion, living means struggling and misery.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 83d
How much is the jab? If you have United Healthcare, you are not getting jack shit.
Unstoppable_Flop@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 83d
Best we can do is "the stab" it's like the jab but much more painful. Oh and it doesn't have medicine in it.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 83d
But it relieves all symptoms within minutes. Terms and conditions may apply.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 83d
Handguns kill cancer
timeghost@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 83d
Unstoppable_Flop@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 83d
But what if there's not a Wendy's in my town?
snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 84d
Its not a tooma! Get to the choppa!
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 84d
Uraaaaghhlll!
No1@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 83d
This sounds great, and I'm happy for those who had good results.
But what happened to the other 102-43-28-15 = 16 patients? Because if they all spontaneously combusted after taking the treatment, that might change how you view things...
Lee@retrolemmy.com · 9 pts · 83d
I think the numbers are worse. The 43 includes those with tumors that shrank or disappeared. In otherwords: 43 (shrank and disappeared) = 28 (shrank) + 15 (disappeared).
So what happened to the other 102 - 43 = 59? Still it's roughly 40% chance of improvement when other treatment methods have failed, which I think a lot of people would be willing to take. I'm often skeptical about early results though.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 83d
this here - the 43 is is the total.
No1@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 82d
Yeah, the positi e results suggest it's worth the risk, but they don't say anything about the neutral or negative results.
It might be 40% chance of improvement and.60% chance of death from side-effects
AnalogRegression@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d