There was an old LucidTV comic about something like this, it was a vending machine transformer where as soon as you ordered something it would change into humanoid form and fly away, find the nearest group of children who are hungry for whatever you ordered, and eat it in front of them without sharing.
I don't think people who really like to draw, or code repetitive tasks etc. are using AI for that. Well, maybe at work where they don't have an option.
people who don't care to do those things are using ai for them, leaving the people who do care, and usually spent a large part of their life learning how to do those things well, with nothing to do.
incidentally, learning how to do something properly makes it easier to see how bad ai is at that thing.
You aren't using the dockworker's services either. Work changes in time. There are still people who sew by hand too, but you can also buy affordable clothes if you are poor.
i do though. i order packages and the dockworkers take them off of the ship and load them onto local transport. i take a ferry and the dockworkers make sure the ship is securely tied off before i dinembark.
In the time before containerization a lot of people used to be dock workers. Today virtually noone is a dockworker anymore. That's what I was referring to.
That's a large part of how the world became as connected as it is today.
How many are actually going to do repetitive, menial coding work so that some people who enjoy that for whatever reason would have "something to do"?
Sounds like a big ask. Besides, if you enjoy coding that, I don't think anyone is preventing you from doing that. Unless it is work, as said. Then you have to do whatever they tell you to. In that case there's no decision to use or not to use it either way.
i was more thinking about art or writing, but if you're doing repetitive menial coding work then there have been tools to replace that for like 50 years.
I like the fact that society depends on artists to have art. Artists like making art and society wants art. There's a cosmic balance in that. The world is designed in a way that gives people good jobs. The only problem is the fact that we use money and the artists need to be paid. If artists were just given enough food and housing by some sort of gift economy, it would all work out great.
I am unhappy that capitalists can now get art without relying on artists.
The world is designed in a way that gives people good jobs.
I think most doing grueling labour would disagree with that.
If you want art from artists you can still get that. You say society wants art so that should be all fine, as long as society isn't fine with AI slop art.
Yes, I agree, the world is also designed to give people horrible terrible jobs, and sometimes even enslavement. It's fucked up. So I say keep the good but destroy the bad. Let's have a communist revolution!
It is not people who likes to draw who are the customers, the customers are the people who need someone to draw for them. I mean this is literally happening on a massive scale right now, with artists being out of work because all those smaller jobs as illustrators which was their bread and butter gets done (badly) by AI instead.
But if you like to draw (or eat ice cream) you are free to do that still though. The situation in the comic is about someone who likes to do that thing, rather than someone wanting to get paid for doing it to others
As someone who likes to eat ice cream, I can't afford to eat ice cream anymore.
Art supplies aren't free, and sure, I could just buy the cheapest pen and paper, but then that's just drinking lukewarm sweetened milk.
It sounds like people are alright with whatever the AI is producing as an alternative. Others financing your hobby seems like an exception to how it usually works
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sundray@lemmus.org · 106 pts · 55d
That machine needs to earn $1 trillion in the next three years to break even, too.
Signtist@bookwyr.me · 67 pts · 55d
Plus all ice cream is now $100 per scoop.
jballs@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 55d
Also you're fired.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 55d
Some people want robots to have sex with. I'm looking forward to robots who will have sex with each other so that we don't have to do it anymore.
Funwayguy@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 55d
You say that but once they crack artifical wombs, that shit would create an utterly fucked dystopia.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 6 pts · 55d
Can't be worse than the one we are already in.
reksas@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 55d
it would let the ones in power drop all pretense of caring since they could just print more people at will
Sunshine@reddthat.com · 7 pts · 55d
And now you cursed us all! ðŸ«
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 55d
Could be, or it could be reappropriated for a better world.
Though tbh my money is on it just making the world weirder and having mixed results in quality
zbyte64@awful.systems · 1 pts · 55d
I would assume the artificial womb would have a power save mode.
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 55d
FutureSex - Mendez
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 55d
You still have to pay for the ice cream, though.
grandel@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 55d
Current AI economy in a nutshell
Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf · 8 pts · 55d
Finally, now I need a machine that does the breathing for me.
justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 55d
already using it
Berttheduck@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 55d
Those exist, look up intubation and ventilation.
Impractical_Island@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 55d
Why is it holding the ice crem with what is clearly his genitals. And it's clearly a "he" too.
Glytch@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 54d
He doesn't just eat the ice cream, he enjoys it.
Impractical_Island@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 54d
Bro if you can eat ice cream and not enjoy it, you need to slow down or get the porcupine outta your urtethra.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 54d
AI discovers new and innovating approaches that feeble human minds could never come up with.
Impractical_Island@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 54d
Bro, this is what I can do after twelve years of writing 2k-7k words per day:
That was on my X account that got deleted for stating my sexuality AS WELL AS being a troll. I can explain the poem in plain language, if you like.
Impractical_Island@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 54d
Poem's title is Nervana. It's about what I learned in my strange life to relate to what the Buddha said.
MrEff@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 55d
In science the masculine form is the default.
Are you anti-science??
/s
Impractical_Island@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 55d
No, I understand superpositions, child (literally (Eden!)) /j
Good/bad = duality
"Cop" = superposition
And now you understand how Donald Trump is president.
/literally true
Impractical_Island@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 55d
Also maybe I should say, I initially interpreted (Adam/logic:Eve/intuition) from your response.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 55d
There was an old LucidTV comic about something like this, it was a vending machine transformer where as soon as you ordered something it would change into humanoid form and fly away, find the nearest group of children who are hungry for whatever you ordered, and eat it in front of them without sharing.
aesthelete@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 54d
Sometimes it eats the ice cream and sometimes it punches you in the groin. It can make mistakes.
Saapas@piefed.zip · -21 pts · 55d
I don't think people who really like to draw, or code repetitive tasks etc. are using AI for that. Well, maybe at work where they don't have an option.
lime@feddit.nu · 37 pts · 55d
people who don't care to do those things are using ai for them, leaving the people who do care, and usually spent a large part of their life learning how to do those things well, with nothing to do.
incidentally, learning how to do something properly makes it easier to see how bad ai is at that thing.
Gladaed@feddit.org · -6 pts · 55d
You aren't using the dockworker's services either. Work changes in time. There are still people who sew by hand too, but you can also buy affordable clothes if you are poor.
lime@feddit.nu · 11 pts · 55d
i do though. i order packages and the dockworkers take them off of the ship and load them onto local transport. i take a ferry and the dockworkers make sure the ship is securely tied off before i dinembark.
Gladaed@feddit.org · 1 pts · 55d
In the time before containerization a lot of people used to be dock workers. Today virtually noone is a dockworker anymore. That's what I was referring to.
That's a large part of how the world became as connected as it is today.
lime@feddit.nu · 15 pts · 55d
yeah but automating jobs with a high risk of injury and guaranteed fatigue damage is one thing. nobody was ever a dockworker as a hobby.
makeshift0546@lemmy.today · -8 pts · 55d
Remember, if you copy and paste from stack, you're a bad developer.
Too many developers think they code better than they do.
lime@feddit.nu · 9 pts · 55d
huh?
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 55d
The code from stack is (or was) written by a person who has some interest in solving the problem in a good way.
You should not be blindly copying things from stack.
I actually can't remember the last time I've even done this.
Saapas@piefed.zip · -15 pts · 55d
How many are actually going to do repetitive, menial coding work so that some people who enjoy that for whatever reason would have "something to do"?
Sounds like a big ask. Besides, if you enjoy coding that, I don't think anyone is preventing you from doing that. Unless it is work, as said. Then you have to do whatever they tell you to. In that case there's no decision to use or not to use it either way.
lime@feddit.nu · 14 pts · 55d
i was more thinking about art or writing, but if you're doing repetitive menial coding work then there have been tools to replace that for like 50 years.
Saapas@piefed.zip · -9 pts · 55d
Yeah this is just another tool for that
lime@feddit.nu · 14 pts · 55d
that sets fire to a tree for every sentence, yes.
Saapas@piefed.zip · -7 pts · 55d
I don't think those using it care tbh
lime@feddit.nu · 9 pts · 55d
nope, that's pretty obvious. it's easier to visualise with local models that make the apartment heat up a few degrees.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 55d
A broken tool that cost way too much even when they were giving it away.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 0 pts · 55d
I mean a lot of people are using it. I guess they think it's worth it
ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 55d
You’ve clearly never written software in your life but for some reason you let marketers tell you how it works.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 19 pts · 55d
I like the fact that society depends on artists to have art. Artists like making art and society wants art. There's a cosmic balance in that. The world is designed in a way that gives people good jobs. The only problem is the fact that we use money and the artists need to be paid. If artists were just given enough food and housing by some sort of gift economy, it would all work out great.
I am unhappy that capitalists can now get art without relying on artists.
Saapas@piefed.zip · -10 pts · 55d
I think most doing grueling labour would disagree with that.
If you want art from artists you can still get that. You say society wants art so that should be all fine, as long as society isn't fine with AI slop art.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 9 pts · 55d
Yes, I agree, the world is also designed to give people horrible terrible jobs, and sometimes even enslavement. It's fucked up. So I say keep the good but destroy the bad. Let's have a communist revolution!
Saapas@piefed.zip · -10 pts · 55d
Not gonna hold my breath on that one
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 55d
You know what AI isn't doing? Grueling labor.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 0 pts · 55d
Sounds like the world isn't designed perfectly, if you ask me
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 54d
We don't need AI making it worse.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 0 pts · 54d
We don't need it, but some want to use it
Rothe@piefed.social · 14 pts · 55d
It is not people who likes to draw who are the customers, the customers are the people who need someone to draw for them. I mean this is literally happening on a massive scale right now, with artists being out of work because all those smaller jobs as illustrators which was their bread and butter gets done (badly) by AI instead.
Saapas@piefed.zip · -10 pts · 55d
But if you like to draw (or eat ice cream) you are free to do that still though. The situation in the comic is about someone who likes to do that thing, rather than someone wanting to get paid for doing it to others
ruska@pawb.social · 6 pts · 55d
As someone who likes to eat ice cream, I can't afford to eat ice cream anymore. Art supplies aren't free, and sure, I could just buy the cheapest pen and paper, but then that's just drinking lukewarm sweetened milk.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 0 pts · 55d
Was the hobby cheaper before or wdym?
autriyo@feddit.org · 3 pts · 54d
I think they meant, that the work that ai is doing now, was what financed the hobby before...
Saapas@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 54d
It sounds like people are alright with whatever the AI is producing as an alternative. Others financing your hobby seems like an exception to how it usually works
RustyNova@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 55d
The only true use I found for AI while programming is boilerplate, aka code that is really simple with only one way to do it.
I don't really have an equivalent for 2d art, but in 3D art that would be basic shapes like spheres, cubes, pyramids
So actually, the analogy would be a robot that unwrap the ice-cream's packaging for you.
Saapas@piefed.zip · -5 pts · 55d
Apparently some people like writing that boilerplate