cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/1169183
The hallucinogenic mushroom that contains no known psychedelic
https://psychedelics.co.uk/news/a-mushroom-genus-that-gets-people-high-but-not-the
https://psychedelics.co.uk/news/a-mushroom-genus-that-gets-people-high-but-not-the
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/1169183
42 Comments
MisterCurtis@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 97d
Well now I'm curious if this was the source of inspiration for Common Side Effects
venusaur@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 97d
I want some.
Also, why haven’t any of the researches tried it? I’m curious if seeing little people is a cultural thing or an unique effect of the drug. I’m less surprised that there’s a psychedelic chemical out there that modern science has not studied yet.
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 96d
Well the article mentions that people from outside of China (northern Philippines is given as an example) also report seeing the little people. Also they found historical texts from the 3rd century also mentioning the little people. So it does seem to be an effect of the mushrooms and not just a cultural thing.
stormdelay@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 96d
There's a Belgian documentary about it, in comics form. It's called the Smurfs
Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 96d
Can you imagine the metric fuck ton of mushrooms gargamel must have been on?
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 96d
Was he too poor to get some actual food? I suppose that science/magic equipment was costing him.
venusaur@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 96d
Yeah I read that but it could still be something that has been spread across Asian regions. I agree though, there’s likely something specific to the shroom.
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 96d
there's also conditions that result in you seeing things as very small or large, so there are brain malfunctions or conditions not related to consumption of substances that cause similar effects, your brain can see people or human figures more often in visual stimulation in certain circumstances, so a mushroom causing you to see small people could mean it creates those conditions in brain function where you see human figures more and their size is distorted. this could be brain function and not a cultural response to intoxication.
Laser@feddit.org · 5 pts · 96d
I would guess the isn't cultural as the idea of "people, but small" isn't very specific. It's probably similar to the "machine elves" users of DMT often report
venusaur@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 96d
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking. Similar to the interconnectedness people experience with psilocybin.
PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 96d
They probably shouldn't try it to avoid introducing bias
ArseAssassin@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 96d
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 96d
Seems like a common side effect...
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 96d
“Secret World of Arriety” Did Hayao hear of this?
Mearcfara@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 96d
It's almost like people struggle to track all that happens when an incredibly complex system of organic matter is ingesting an incredibly complex system of organic matter with almost innumerable variables
bedwyr@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 96d
This is fascinating. There is a type of bollete that has psillocybin too, the blue meanie, from central Europe.
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 96d
Wait, the Blue Meanies aren’t just a Beatles’ “Yellow Submarine” villain?
datavoid@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 96d
Blue meanies are the best
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social · 4 pts · 96d
Common Side Effects.
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 97d
Could be placebo?
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 4 pts · 96d
I don't think you've tripped before lol
quick_snail@feddit.nl · -1 pts · 96d
....this "article" is just 1 sentence?
SaltySalamander@fedia.io · 1 pts · 96d
No.
fireweed@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 96d
A full article loaded for me, must be an issue on your end.
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 96d
No, it's a full article.
kibblebits@quokk.au · -5 pts · 97d
That’s….. pointless?
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 51 pts · 97d
It's not a magic mushroom without the magic. It's a magic mushroom where science can't explain where the magic comes from.
jordanlund@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 97d
Plot twist - It's not a hallucinogen, it just lets you see the little people who are always there!
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 34 pts · 97d
Oh, so like these bitchin' sunglasses I found the other day?
MelodiousFunk@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 97d
I don't know what I was expecting, but it definitely wasn't Char and Amuro
swordfightingkissing.livestreamedcollapse@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 96d
truly a .gif from beyond the time
sheogorath@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 96d
Dum dudun dan dadam~
Badada dam dada da da~
You belong to me~
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 96d
Gsus4@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 96d
haha, I knew this would be here somewhere..
turtlesareneat@piefed.ca · 13 pts · 97d
That's the concept behind the researchers who are sending folks into DMT trips with complex math problems, trying to see if the entities people encounter will return a correct answer, thus establishing first contact.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 97d
.... They actually got that approved? Fuck me, I couldn't even get my "impact of common coffee blends on researcher productivity" project past the IRB.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 15 pts · 97d
Machine Elfs: "wtf? Do your own homework!"
subignition@fedia.io · 8 pts · 97d
Pikmin truthers rejoice
T156@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 96d
Not that it can't explain, but that the typical suspects aren't here. It could very well just be a new kind of chemical that's not being tested for, because they don't know it exists yet.
ranzispa@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 96d
Hospital report that people eating it say the same thing. No known psychedelic compound has been found.
It could be anything. They report this happens with undercooked mushrooms, might as well be a protein.
Now, finding what it is that causes the effect will be very difficult...
You'd have to isolate all compounds in there which are not been previously tested and test them separately. Even then you may find nothing as the effect may be produced by a specific combination of compounds which have no activity when isolated.
Basically: we know it happens but have no idea why.
agent_nycto@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 96d
Can't let an ounce of whimsy go uncrushed, can you?
T156@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 96d
Is there no whimsy in there potentially being a novel compound we've not yet discovered that causes it?
Where's your excitement about verging into a new unknown?
agent_nycto@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 96d
Someone was just trying to be poetic and then you pulled a "well actually"