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A permanent ceasefire on all fronts, including Lebanon
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US commitment not to interfere with Iran’s internal affairs
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Lifting of the US naval blockade within 30 days
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US withdrawal of forces from Iran
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Reopening the Strait of Hormuz within 30 days “under Iranian arrangements”
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The US and its allies are delivering reconstruction plans for Iran worth at least $300bn
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Ending sanctions on Iranian oil and energy products
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Reiteration of Iran’s commitment not to produce nuclear weapons
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US commitment not to increase its forces in the region and not impose new sanctions
45 Comments
impudentmortal@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 59d
And this is supposed to be better than Obama's Iran deal, right?
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 25 pts · 58d
Yes for Iran the victim of this war
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 57d
Except a few hundred little girls and other people that got bombed into oblivion for no reason at all
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 57d
A good reason for why this deal need be the best deal ever for Iran and the worse deal ever for the United Snakes.
stumu415@lemmy.zip · 56 pts · 59d
So much winning...... for Iran.
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca · 27 pts · 58d
So... Israel? I'm not sure the US actually has any other allies anymore
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 58d
You can be assured Israel won't pay a dime out of all this.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 58d
The US doesnt have any money anymore either. I dont know where we expect to find 300 billion dollars just laying around.
scala@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 58d
Maybe they will get paid in TrumpBucks, that's how UFC was paid.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 57d
Thats horrifying. I didnt beleive this when I read it so I looked it up. Looks like you're correct. It seems cryptoscam bucks are a permanent part of our economy now. This must be this weeks, "And then, things got worse" event for the US.
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 58d
I’m sure they’ll just ask Musk to take out a bank loan against the value of his stock portfolio.
kunaltyagi@programming.dev · 4 pts · 58d
Gulf Coast countries have been roped in. They're losing big and it's a ransom they'll gladly-grudgingly pay
kreskin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 58d
Its a pretty big ask. Heres what else you could buy with 300 billion:
3000 F-35 fighters
21 of the most modern US aircraft carriers.
Its about what the UN estimated it would take to end world hunger permanently across the planet.
kunaltyagi@programming.dev · 2 pts · 57d
Too bad that money goes from some oppressive regimes to another.
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 26 pts · 59d
Does this include Israel too?
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 59d
Of course not
I believe that Israel will continue to steal more of Palestine and Lebanon, and most of the west will look uncomfortably at their toes for fear of being called antisemites
MML@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 58d
Ah yes, the growing alt right, ever friends of the Jewish people.
Nautalax@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 57d
Definitely not the Jewish people in their own country at least but some strains of the far right have good relationships with Israel nevertheless. For instance Orban worked quite closely with Netanyahu and was called a friend of Israel despite at home doing stuff like praising WW2 figures who made antisemitic laws or promoting Soros conspiracy theories.
If antisemitism grows in countries with decently large Jewish populations, that encourages them to flee to Israel where they constitute a majority. Since over half of the Jewish people in the world don’t live in Israel, such migrations could make Israel much more powerful militarily and economically than it is today, so Israel the state could be better off in a more antisemetic world that is harder on the Jewish people. It would incentivize more settlers due to lack of housing and reduce the Arab proportion of the population, furthering goals of the Israeli right. At the same time, the right wing in the countries the Jewish people would be fleeing from would be happy to reduce the numbers of people with a different culture nearby. And they can cooperate on other things they may find of interest too like how Hungary and Israel got some military and Pegasus spyware deals, diplomatic cover, etc.
Babalugats@feddit.uk · 22 pts · 59d
No. But hopefully it means that Iran will be able to fully unload on Israel (if Israel keep at it) without worrying about any repercussions from the US.
EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 59d
My best guess is that the US plans to abandon Israel for the rest of the Trump administration. Should Israel and Iran go to war, the US will not do anything besides send weapons (as they have done previously). They will not carry out anymore military strikes on Iran.
Should Iran respond to attacks on Lebanon by re-closing the straight of Hormuz, the US would be forced to begin withholding material support from Israel and then renegotiate a second peace agreement.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 5 pts · 59d
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/israel-us-military/
EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 59d
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/pentagon-raised-threat-israeli-spying-us-highest-level-sources-say-rcna348565
Maeve@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 58d
So... Discarding with one hand and clutching with the other. Please.
EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 58d
Literal factions wrestling over policy decisions regarding Israel.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 58d
Kabuki theatre.
redsand@infosec.pub · 25 pts · 58d
The deal is dead because Lebanon. How do people keep falling for this every week?
Napster153@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 58d
Ask the rich. They're delusions of control are more important than the reality they actually live in.
ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 56d
Gas at Costco today was only 3.79 today
Thanks magats
/s
yesman@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 58d
The Obama deal was supposed to have "given" Iran ~$2B, but that was actually a settlement of claims made by Iran pursuant to pre-revolutionary contracts, disputes, and treaties.
So I'm suspicious of this $300B figure. How much of that is sanctions relief and/or unfreezing Iranian assets?
It's probably misleading to characterize that figure as though we're writing them a check for war reparations. But there aren't enough details to be sure.
Anyway, I don't think it's wise to adopt the language and tactics of people who think diplomacy is a waste of time and would prefer a military solution.
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 58d
Does Trump get to decide how the 300b gets spent. Just another grift?
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 58d
Iran about to get a poorly designed Olympic sized swimming pool in front of their capital building
UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 58d
This seems a lot like a certain deal that was deemed a terrible mistake by a certain someone before
dan1101@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 58d
This is the dumbest war ever, from the president of peace. Peace of shit is more like it.
subOrange@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 59d
How is this a good deal? Like what? We pay them money, get nothing and in 30 years they will be at it again with the nuclear weapons?
SirActionSack@aussie.zone · 40 pts · 59d
Can't imagine why they would want some kind of deterrent weapons.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 58d
Iran would be completely insane not to develop nuclear weapons.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 58d
Your shitty country started a war of agression so you have to pay for it. It is a decent deal. Iran deserve a bigger compensations. The sanctions damage is estimated to be a trillion of dollars.
Why are you keep believing the idea that Iran will seek nukes which was the exact bullshit excuse that started the war
EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 59d
It’s a good deal because the US and Israel are terrorist states that engage in genocide, but it’s also good for the US because it floods Iran with dollars (which bolsters our currency).
Ideally a deal would be struck in which we lean on Israel to remove all nuclear weapons from the Middle East, and in exchange Iran dismantles their nuclear energy program.
The Israeli’s stole our nuclear technology and should be forced to give us back our nukes (our tech = our nukes), but we’ve yet to see a president willing to stand up to Israel on this matter. If we could remove all nuclear weapons from the region, the global economy would be safer and Israel would not be able to threaten its neighbors into wanting their own nuclear weapons.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 58d
It's the best deal available considering the situation Trump has maneuvered the US into
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 58d
It's a good deal for world for reopening SoH. No other alternative for opening it. US/GCC would have incurred too much permanent damage. While Trump is only president stupid/compromised enough to have fallen for Netanyahu bait to start, he's also only one with reality distortion power to call a stop, victory.
World/Americans being liberated from USrael empire is closer today. There is crazy congressional bills to add $700B (70%) in military spending this year with $500B permanent, and to put Mossad in command of US intelligence. This gets harder, if military goals are limited to Cuba/Canada, or recession hits, and US power/"pretenses of idealism in abusing power" loses credibility. There's a far better world with Iran an influence peer.
Sabrinamycarpet@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 59d
It seems like a pretty fair deal for peace. US ceases aggression and helps rebuild. Iran reopens the strait.
Everything else is window dressing. Promises can always be broken by either side, but this would conclusively end things for now.
Is it great solely for US self interest? Maybe not but no one cares.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 58d
I don't remember Iran broking deals before. I agree with the rest.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 1 pts · 59d
The good deal was no mainland USA destruction. Everything else is gravy.
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 58d
The alternative is economic and supply chain collapse.
Thirty? They'll be back at it next week.
rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 58d
So status ante-bellum+ money? This doesn't look very promising, or long lasting.