Exactly what I was thinking. There are 3 different off-white colors that indicate vastly different temperature variants. This map is incredibly ambiguous. Which white zones are -8° below average, roughly the same as average, or 13° above average?
The neighbouring colors are different though, so since it's not going to jump from +10 to -8 you can unequivocally tell. Honestly I think I hate this less than having 8 shades of slightly different red
It goes red-black-white-red. And since temperatures rarely jumps 5°c without gradient, the map will have black and gray area surrounding any white that represents +13, and white will surround and red that represents +18°.
I've just realised that this is saying that the UK is warmer than France. Because despite the term being white hot it's actually decided that red is hotter than white. Why didn't they just go from white being cold to red been hot?
I might be the only one who doesn’t mind the color scheme. For the temperature range on the map, the only colors that don’t fit into the typical blue-to-red gradient are the green for really cold, which makes the coldest anomalies really pop, and the white for really hot. I get the complaints about white being used for both normal average temperature and for extreme heat, but it’s easy to tell which is which by the neighboring colors, and it almost looks as if France got so hot that it got a third degree burn, which chars the flesh, nerves included, and no longer feels like anything - thus insensate white.
So MAYBE, and I'm pulling this out of my ass with no background here, but expectation is temperature doesn't jump, but flows as a gradient.
Using France as the start, we've white fading to dark greys then reds, which is the hottest of the three white possibilities. As going hotter then that gets pink again, the top end is white in France. We then decrease down the scale until we get those. green pockets. Light green/white touching green would signify the lower of the three white temps.
Not a great map, but perhaps it's an understood practice with the field.
After all, how do you convert a quantitative scale into qualitative data.
You can't really just number everything (people have shit attention spans and they'll gloss over immediately. Anybody who's delivered technical data to management can attest to that lol)
Color works well for that, but has a limited useful spectrum.
Getting too specific in a single spectrum muddies the graphic (what's the exact color over Lisbon here? This kinda salmony guy? So 8? Or closer to 9?)
Basically, their use of brightness within hue bins makes this a non-function. Notice how its gets whiter closer to 0 and closer to 13. If two values of Y can get plugged into a function and they both return 0 for the expected X term, thats a non-function.
Temperature, or rather, difference in temperature from expected, which is whats being plotted here, is about divergence from normal.
To fix this map, pick a divergent color scheme, center 0, then create bins at either a specific interval or at quantile intervals.
While I do appreciate the information on better infographic creation, the example map has such a small range comparably. There's over 30 values, not to mention the shades in-between values. I think a two color gradient would end up being very smooth at this scale. Sorta looks to generally drop in temperature as you go east here, nice red to blue fade.
Expanding the color palette does give more room for distinction, but that's seemingly how they got where they did.
To be fair, from my friends who've actually had color theory and graphic design classes, STEM folks tend to do a poor job of communicating well.
So eh. Maybe it's pointless for me to argue against it.
To be fair, from my friends who’ve actually had color theory and graphic design classes, STEM folks tend to do a poor job of communicating well.
it's a way of thinking about your audience, i think. when i worked in accounting and had to present to and teach accountants: simple formatted tables, stuff that looks like excel, it didn't need to be bright or colorful. it just needed to have colors that were unobtrusive. i'm working in music now and if my seminars don't have showmanship (and if i use powerpoint at all) i'm hosed. different audiences have completely different styles that they are used to communicating with, and if you adapt to that you're going to have more success
so like, i'm sure the STEM folk are fine at communicating within their field. outside? well, a few of my uncles were engineers. does it show?
That is absolutely brutal. I really hope people are finding ways to escape the heat.
Separately, this visualization is bad in a way I have never seen before: a scale of pink to dark red, where dark red actually represents 2 completely different numbers!
Many just can't escape it, for many reasons. People are dying, and this will only become more and more common and even worse. We only see the short term effects now too, it'll be so much worse after some years when the long term effects become clear. Crops dying, water shortages, infrastructure damage etc.
Whoever had to extend the scale in a hurry because the numbers were literally unthinkable when it was made. This year people who can have lunch in death valley national park are getting cooler temperatures than London.
Those people near death valley are living in (mostly shitty) homes built for extreme heat, with central air thick insulation and light colored exteriors, double pane windows, entry vestibules in the nicer ones, all the things nobody in england has seen outside american TV.
What's it measuring against average temperature for this time of year because Europe does get hot at this time of year we know that. It's also not as bad as the heat wave we had 6 weeks ago. Not too underestimate our awful the weather currently is.
I assume it’s comparing against the average temperatures for June 21-26 as that would align with what my weather app says, which compares with the average temperatures since 1970
The product of human activity, Donald Trump's deregulations, everyone trusting China with their manufacturing (given their own lax systems of regulation), and the rampant building of data centers.
We are all partially guilty, and the phrase "fry in hell" is of our own making.
The graph stops at 18°C, that's the temperature it should be not the temperature that it is. Also why does it have two whites, white is apparently both zero and 13, which is bizarre because it's definitely hotter than 13 everywhere in Europe right now and probably in Iceland as well. This map makes no sense.
That's sort of like asking why the tide is low in Tokyo when it's high in Lisbon; the heat has gotta come from somewhere. I think this anomaly is largely due to shifts in currents.
Because this is our first proper rainy season in years. We'll start to get fucked hard from the first week of July. Typhoons might help a bit more this year, but more of those is due to climate change too.
I honestly wouldn't be able to cope in such temperatures. I'm glad Denmark is in the middle of the map here, wedged right in the sweet spot. Even then, it's going to be unbearable next weekend and I'm slowly preparing for it.
@A404 States around the world absolutely fucking failed regarding Climate Change.
Be it mitigation or prevention even the bare minimum was too much to ask for.
Here in Germany activists even won a lawsuit upholding the law? To quote Proudhon :
"Laws: We know what they are, and what they are worth! They are spider webs for the rich and mighty, steel chains for the poor and weak, fishing nets in the hands of government."
Europe needs to normalize air conditioning. I'll never forget the most miserable summer of my life was in germany. Summer gets hot there just like most other places, but in Europe, domiciles don't have AC 🥵
This will probably start to change if this is now the reality but at least historically the reason Europe didn't have air conditioning was it wasn't worth it for the 4 days of the year that it would be used.
The other reason being that houses won't design to be air conditioned, we don't have ducted heating so if I bought an air conditioner and had it installed in a room it would air condition that room, if I wanted air conditioning in my house I would have to have a unit fitted in each room, that's going to get expensive. Alternatively I could buy this £15 fan from Lidl.
I have medical documentation saying I need adequate temperature control and I have offered my landlord to pay all costs associated with installing AC and still they banned me from having AC 😭.
We used to have backbone. The count rised taxes too high and people picked up their pitchforks and torches. Now the rich elite makes planet inhabitable and no one cares to even complain about it loudly.
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TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 156 pts · 63d
What a horrendous color map. The true anarchy in this post is the cartographers use of hue.
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 45 pts · 63d
Exactly what I was thinking. There are 3 different off-white colors that indicate vastly different temperature variants. This map is incredibly ambiguous. Which white zones are -8° below average, roughly the same as average, or 13° above average?
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 33 pts · 63d
The neighbouring colors are different though, so since it's not going to jump from +10 to -8 you can unequivocally tell. Honestly I think I hate this less than having 8 shades of slightly different red
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 63d
Like I don't have time to get into it cus I'm at work, but their use of hue is a non-function the color space.
Mac@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 63d
Context clues
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 63d
I get it,it is still interpreatable. but still a poor colorbar choice.
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 63d
Do you honestly believe that someone like Joe Rogan could actually understand a graph with this much ambiguity?
echodot@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 62d
If comprehension by Joe Rogan is the standard I think we might as well just give up now.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 62d
Just a map with “hot as fuck bro!” printed across it.
Maybe some flames at the hottest spot.
Also, fuck that moron.
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 62d
It's clear enough to me.
Could you try instead telling me the general message you get from the map?
calcopiritus@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 62d
Why the fuck is there white between red and red?
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 62d
White = -8, 0, and 13.5-ish
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 62d
It goes red-black-white-red. And since temperatures rarely jumps 5°c without gradient, the map will have black and gray area surrounding any white that represents +13, and white will surround and red that represents +18°.
echodot@feddit.uk · 0 pts · 62d
I've just realised that this is saying that the UK is warmer than France. Because despite the term being white hot it's actually decided that red is hotter than white. Why didn't they just go from white being cold to red been hot?
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 62d
I think they had to extend the scale in a hurry.
starik@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 62d
I might be the only one who doesn’t mind the color scheme. For the temperature range on the map, the only colors that don’t fit into the typical blue-to-red gradient are the green for really cold, which makes the coldest anomalies really pop, and the white for really hot. I get the complaints about white being used for both normal average temperature and for extreme heat, but it’s easy to tell which is which by the neighboring colors, and it almost looks as if France got so hot that it got a third degree burn, which chars the flesh, nerves included, and no longer feels like anything - thus insensate white.
Thisiswritteningerman@midwest.social · 5 pts · 63d
So MAYBE, and I'm pulling this out of my ass with no background here, but expectation is temperature doesn't jump, but flows as a gradient. Using France as the start, we've white fading to dark greys then reds, which is the hottest of the three white possibilities. As going hotter then that gets pink again, the top end is white in France. We then decrease down the scale until we get those. green pockets. Light green/white touching green would signify the lower of the three white temps. Not a great map, but perhaps it's an understood practice with the field. After all, how do you convert a quantitative scale into qualitative data. You can't really just number everything (people have shit attention spans and they'll gloss over immediately. Anybody who's delivered technical data to management can attest to that lol) Color works well for that, but has a limited useful spectrum. Getting too specific in a single spectrum muddies the graphic (what's the exact color over Lisbon here? This kinda salmony guy? So 8? Or closer to 9?)
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 63d
So there is a lot of work on this in color theory, and you can go deep into this.. Here are a few chapters on the matter: https://slcc.pressbooks.pub/maps/chapter/9-2/ , https://courses.ems.psu.edu/geog486/node/876 , and this part in particular https://courses.ems.psu.edu/geog486/node/877
Basically, their use of brightness within hue bins makes this a non-function. Notice how its gets whiter closer to 0 and closer to 13. If two values of Y can get plugged into a function and they both return 0 for the expected X term, thats a non-function.
Temperature, or rather, difference in temperature from expected, which is whats being plotted here, is about divergence from normal.
To fix this map, pick a divergent color scheme, center 0, then create bins at either a specific interval or at quantile intervals.
Something like this: https://colorbrewer2.org/#type=diverging&scheme=RdYlBu&n=11
Thisiswritteningerman@midwest.social · 2 pts · 63d
While I do appreciate the information on better infographic creation, the example map has such a small range comparably. There's over 30 values, not to mention the shades in-between values. I think a two color gradient would end up being very smooth at this scale. Sorta looks to generally drop in temperature as you go east here, nice red to blue fade.
Expanding the color palette does give more room for distinction, but that's seemingly how they got where they did.
To be fair, from my friends who've actually had color theory and graphic design classes, STEM folks tend to do a poor job of communicating well.
So eh. Maybe it's pointless for me to argue against it.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 62d
it's a way of thinking about your audience, i think. when i worked in accounting and had to present to and teach accountants: simple formatted tables, stuff that looks like excel, it didn't need to be bright or colorful. it just needed to have colors that were unobtrusive. i'm working in music now and if my seminars don't have showmanship (and if i use powerpoint at all) i'm hosed. different audiences have completely different styles that they are used to communicating with, and if you adapt to that you're going to have more success
so like, i'm sure the STEM folk are fine at communicating within their field. outside? well, a few of my uncles were engineers. does it show?
disorderly@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 63d
That is absolutely brutal. I really hope people are finding ways to escape the heat.
Separately, this visualization is bad in a way I have never seen before: a scale of pink to dark red, where dark red actually represents 2 completely different numbers!
Davel23@fedia.io · 26 pts · 63d
There seems to be three different values for white.
roguetrick@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 63d
And some of those green spots are damn close to using it.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 63d
The real anarchy is the mapmakers use of hue.
M137@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 62d
Many just can't escape it, for many reasons. People are dying, and this will only become more and more common and even worse. We only see the short term effects now too, it'll be so much worse after some years when the long term effects become clear. Crops dying, water shortages, infrastructure damage etc.
isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 36 pts · 63d
Warm summer? Pfft. It's the coolest summer for the rest of our lives!
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 62d
That depends on where you are.
yyprum@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 62d
Hahaha that is so depressing hahaha
goes to cry in a corner
IzzyJ@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 62d
Unhelpful
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 62d
Yeah,how else do you prove you're not terrorist?
isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 61d
Unhelpful.
Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 62d
Let's go from white to red, then when it gets hotter back to white followed by red
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 62d
Nevermind the fact London this year is hotter than the nearest town to death valley last year.
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 62d
The solution of a million pounds mate!! Din, din, din! We have a winner!
Ledivin@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 63d
...so is northeastern France -8, 0, or +13? What a fucking stupid color scale
Homer1@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 63d
Deviation to the average temperature. So its 13 K above the average. Or in other words around 42-44°C
Edit: oh you were complaining about the colormap? Yeah its super shit
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 63d
The color scale is definitely... a choice but it is not ambiguous. There is only one "path" that goes red, then black, then white.
blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 62d
Whose decision was it to make "6" and "18" such similar colors
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 62d
Whoever had to extend the scale in a hurry because the numbers were literally unthinkable when it was made. This year people who can have lunch in death valley national park are getting cooler temperatures than London.
Those people near death valley are living in (mostly shitty) homes built for extreme heat, with central air thick insulation and light colored exteriors, double pane windows, entry vestibules in the nicer ones, all the things nobody in england has seen outside american TV.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 63d
Wtf did the map burn a hole in France?
mumblerfish@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 63d
Someone running a magnifying glass over there
greenbit@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 62d
Is this the Musk laser space weapon
mumblerfish@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 62d
Damn, some french twitter user must have called him a loser or something.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 62d
Definitely feels like it (am in France).
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 63d
it was too hot. France has evaporated.
we should stop global warming before we lose a place we care about
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 4 pts · 63d
Maybe we should stop climate change after the UK burns up.
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 62d
Wouldn't matter, the moment it gets hot wheel them a great to Spain anyway.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 62d
I think the gates of hell are there.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 63d
While yes, a 14c deviation from average temperatures is fucking insane, so is this map. The scale is cooked.
f1error@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 63d
That's a 57f deviation for us mouth-breathing heathens.
Zubgub@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 62d
+14C deviation is equivalent to +25F not 57. You don't add the 32F for a deviation, only actual. Still an insane increase above normal though.
BastingChemina@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 62d
It means that statistically, of the climate was constant, the temperatures we have now would be as probable as having 6°C.
echodot@feddit.uk · 0 pts · 62d
What's it measuring against average temperature for this time of year because Europe does get hot at this time of year we know that. It's also not as bad as the heat wave we had 6 weeks ago. Not too underestimate our awful the weather currently is.
belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 62d
I assume it’s comparing against the average temperatures for June 21-26 as that would align with what my weather app says, which compares with the average temperatures since 1970
fushuan@piefed.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 62d
Not only are the colours bad, but the numbers are too? How is a max of 18 in summer worrying? We are way above those numbers.
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 18 pts · 62d
That's variation from the average. It could certainly have been presented better.
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 62d
That's not the temperature. That's the degree to which the temperature is strange.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 63d
The product of human activity, Donald Trump's deregulations, everyone trusting China with their manufacturing (given their own lax systems of regulation), and the rampant building of data centers.
We are all partially guilty, and the phrase "fry in hell" is of our own making.
Davel23@fedia.io · 7 pts · 63d
What is up with France?
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 63d
Like, in general? Don't even know where to start
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 63d
Hot
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 62d
It's a fucking oven.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 62d
Genuinely cooking.
There were 20 drowning deaths this weekend because people were jumping into dangerous rivers to escape the heat.
valar@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 63d
Possibly the worst color scale I've ever seen on a chart
ddplf@szmer.info · 4 pts · 62d
What a great time to visit such a rural paradise that is Lithuania!
A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 63d
Where else could i cross-post this?
terranoid@lemmy.cafe · 12 pts · 63d
Somewhere they post horrendously bad data color choices
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 63d
A better climate change map can be posted on
Amongst others
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 63d
A "data is ugly" community?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 62d
so what is the unit? because it's a hell of a lot warmer than 18C. Difference from... what historical average?
it says 2m temperature anomaly and if it got 18 degrees C hotter outside in two minutes i think i'd just accept death. i must be misreading something.
rautapekoni@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 62d
I think the 2m is for temperatures taken two meters off the ground. What the data range for the average is though, impossible to tell.
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 62d
M could only mean minutes.
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 63d
Hunh. I'm betting that's the first time Le Mans has had something so massively impactful in common w/ Laredo, TX. 🫢
echodot@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 62d
The graph stops at 18°C, that's the temperature it should be not the temperature that it is. Also why does it have two whites, white is apparently both zero and 13, which is bizarre because it's definitely hotter than 13 everywhere in Europe right now and probably in Iceland as well. This map makes no sense.
sprack@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 62d
I believe the colors denote how many degrees above/below average the temp deviates.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 62d
Sorry but you're reading this all wrong
manuremy@sopuli.xyz · -1 pts · 62d
11°C here right now and boy am I enjoying it! Perfect summer, finally.
hoohoohoot@fedinsfw.app · 2 pts · 61d
mysticpickle@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 63d
Should crosspost to !Cartographyanarchy@sh.itjust.works
Neural_drift@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 62d
So why am I in Japan experiencing a slightly cooler summer (so far, yes I realize there is plenty of time to get fucked)?
absentbird@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 62d
That's sort of like asking why the tide is low in Tokyo when it's high in Lisbon; the heat has gotta come from somewhere. I think this anomaly is largely due to shifts in currents.
ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 62d
Is this the new variant of 'but it snowed once so its fine'?
robear@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 62d
Because this is our first proper rainy season in years. We'll start to get fucked hard from the first week of July. Typhoons might help a bit more this year, but more of those is due to climate change too.
stagen@feddit.dk · 1 pts · 62d
I honestly wouldn't be able to cope in such temperatures. I'm glad Denmark is in the middle of the map here, wedged right in the sweet spot. Even then, it's going to be unbearable next weekend and I'm slowly preparing for it.
Benaresh@mastodon.social · 1 pts · 63d
@A404 States around the world absolutely fucking failed regarding Climate Change.
Be it mitigation or prevention even the bare minimum was too much to ask for.
Here in Germany activists even won a lawsuit upholding the law? To quote Proudhon :
"Laws: We know what they are, and what they are worth! They are spider webs for the rich and mighty, steel chains for the poor and weak, fishing nets in the hands of government."
Beehaw_Girl@beehaw.org · 1 pts · 63d
Europe needs to normalize air conditioning. I'll never forget the most miserable summer of my life was in germany. Summer gets hot there just like most other places, but in Europe, domiciles don't have AC 🥵
echodot@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 62d
This will probably start to change if this is now the reality but at least historically the reason Europe didn't have air conditioning was it wasn't worth it for the 4 days of the year that it would be used.
The other reason being that houses won't design to be air conditioned, we don't have ducted heating so if I bought an air conditioner and had it installed in a room it would air condition that room, if I wanted air conditioning in my house I would have to have a unit fitted in each room, that's going to get expensive. Alternatively I could buy this £15 fan from Lidl.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 62d
I have medical documentation saying I need adequate temperature control and I have offered my landlord to pay all costs associated with installing AC and still they banned me from having AC 😭.
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 63d
reksas@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 62d
We used to have backbone. The count rised taxes too high and people picked up their pitchforks and torches. Now the rich elite makes planet inhabitable and no one cares to even complain about it loudly.