Netanyahu: 'No room' for Palestinian state between Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River
https://www.jns.org/news/israel-news/netanyahu-no-room-for-palestinian-state-between-mediterranean-sea-and-jordan-river
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Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 131 pts · 45d
So..."from the river to the sea", then? Netanyahu apparently can't stop using antisemitic slogans. Hmmm.
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 45d
"From the river to the sea" is the official Likud slogan.
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 29 pts · 45d
It's also banned in a lot of countries for being antisemitic.
Taldan@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 45d
Ironic that the Israli PM is now using it then
I have zero doubt Israel would gladly genocide every Palestinian, if they could get away with it
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 61 pts · 45d
The west still pretend that iarael want a solution
Mantzy81@aussie.zone · 60 pts · 45d
They do. A final solution, some might say.
albbi@piefed.ca · 21 pts · 45d
How the chambers have turned.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 43d
the ABUSED became the abusers, so they became nazis themselves.
Taldan@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 45d
Pretend is a good word for it. Seems obvious to anyone paying attention that Israel has zero appetite for peace
The citizens, who tend to be more moderate than their government, are particularly rabid about continuing to bomb Lebanon
zwerg@feddit.org · 43 pts · 44d
Ah, yes, the Lebensraum argument.
nkat2112@sh.itjust.works · 36 pts · 45d
No room for Israel on this planet.
Flower@sh.itjust.works · 36 pts · 45d
Well, trade places with them. Then you can live within the ruins you created and they can build a state not in the contested territory.
grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one · 34 pts · 45d
no room left on this planet for the likes of Netanyahu et al
Bread@thelemmy.club · 34 pts · 44d
impairedimperator@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 44d
Evidence so far is that he's 100% correct. He just needs US troops to take the hits from Iran and he can continue his ethnic cleansing in peace.
Bread@thelemmy.club · 8 pts · 44d
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 43d
us troops have taking hits for israel for the past 20+ years, ME conflicts were likely instigated by israel.
drmoose@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 44d
Shit is about to catch up with Israel. There a reason the aggressive, authoritarian tactics don't last - it's not because it's unethical or evil, it's just bad too.
Bread@thelemmy.club · 5 pts · 44d
Snowies@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 43d
Justice is a game that people who can’t turn off their empathy play.
The world is owned and controlled by billionaires who can simply just turn off their empathy… assuming they had any to begin with…
I personally think we need to do heavy research into DNA markers for sociopathy and psychopathy, and eugenics those disorders out of existence.
That’s the real “final solution”.
Upgrayedd1776@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 43d
pretty sure Iran will be more interested in vengence than justice having killed the President's father, wife and children during peace negotiations
Snowies@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 43d
Wouldn’t you?
radiofreebc@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 43d
There's no justice, just us.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 43d
And we cant imagine acting outside our existing systems of justice-- even if they are utterly broken. So we wont do anything either. We've been raised and thoroughly conditioned by nonstop cop dramas to be repulsed and deeply uncomfortable with such an idea.
NM_Gringo@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 45d
In the meantime, maybe you could stop relying on US taxpayer money to pay your bills. Go get a job.
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 44d
Yes. Now the public knows Netanyahu's a gutless babykilling cunt.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 44d
We've known for ages and no one gave a shit.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 44d
Hundreds of millions of people give a shit, vocally. We are being silenced and thrown in jail for it all over the world.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 43d
msm largely ignored israels expansion in the ME for 20+ years, it was only inflamed prior to bidens election year.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 43d
They own msm.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 44d
Of course. Israel wants the Land between the River and the Sea for itself.
blattrules@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 45d
Not your decision to make, asshole.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 45d
Unfortuntly it is because the whole world is allowing it to genocide palestinians
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 44d
Note: this is not hate speech in Germany and other jurisdictions.
Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio · 12 pts · 44d
There was room.
silver_wings_of_morning@feddit.dk · 11 pts · 44d
Babe wake up, new From the River to the Sea just dropped
Babalugats@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 45d
Well, now that, that has been acknowledged by him, are we to assume that Israel are going to give them (back) enough land so that there is enough room for a Palestinian state?
kreskin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 43d
Sounds like a straight up lebensbraum reference.
Wataba@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 45d
No room for Israel on this planet, fucker.
gtrcoi@programming.dev · 6 pts · 44d
Does anyone have an article that isn't trash clickbait? I've only found 2 articles talking about this with neither containing a full quote or any sourcing aside from a mention that the quote originates from Al Jazeera on the 29th, but I can't find anything about it on their website.
MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 44d
There's no article that I can find but there is a short video on Al Jazeera English's youtube...
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NwUNxEZ9BL8
gtrcoi@programming.dev · 6 pts · 44d
Man trying to find the full speech is impossible. You'd think the country accused of controlling the media would make speeches by it's government easily accessible.
Anyway, it's not surprising Netanyahu said this tbh, he's always had this position. That guy fucking sucks. I'm not sure if he wins this next election because the polls make it look like it's going to be a complete mess, but I'm pretty sure however it ends it's going to be basically how he described it with no chance of Palestinian statehood.
EDIT: I found it https://youtu.be/StF-7tNX1qM
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 44d
The English speeches are for the rest of the world. The Hebrew speeches are for domestic Israelis.
isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 45d
He's correct. The Israelis have worked for decades to ensure that an independent Palestinian state is not a possibility. And they have accomplished that goal.
People outside Israel really need to let go of the fantasy of the two state solution. Trying to make a unified nation out of the handful of ethnic enclaves the Palestinians occupy would be like trying to make one viable independent nation out of all the US's Indian reservations. That will never be possible, and the reason is that it was deliberately designed to make it impossible.
The two state solution is thoroughly dead and buried. There are only three futures for Palestinians at this point:
Slavery (Apartheid.)
Ethnic cleansing/genocide.
South Africa-style national reconciliation.
The rest of the world needs to move on from the two state solution. We should be demanding complete and equal Israeli citizenship for every Palestinian.
100 years from now, there will only be one nation in Palestine. Maybe that will be called "Israel." Maybe it will be renamed something else as a reunified state. But there will not be a Palestinian-only state. It's time to let go of that dream. At this point, seriously discussing the two-state solution just enables Zionism.
Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 44d
The Israelis hate this solution more than any other as they know that if there was one state, they would be outnumbered and outvoted by the Palestinians. This is why Israeli rhetoric towards the Palestinians "breeding like rats" is so vile, they know they are outnumbered and another reason they are so eager to carry out their frequent mass killings or their more recent genocide.
Israel will resist this move as much as any of the others. Israel was created by the UN as a settler colony for European Jews nearly 80 years ago. There has been nothing but bloodshed ever since, it's time to admit the Israel experiment was a failure. I will never understand why the Jews of Europe were not given a piece of Germany for their new state instead of a piece of Palestine that these Jews had no social or cultural connection to.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 44d
That makes it sound like it was the UN's idea. Israel was planned by Zionists, then rubber-stamped by the UN after an extended terrorist campaign against Palestinians, British mandate officials and the UN.
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 44d
John Kerry of all people warned of this in 2016:
Israelis have made the choice, election after election for the last 2-3 decades to elect governments that expanded the settlements, derailed the figleaf of Oslo and destroyed the practicality of a Palestinian state. The choice for One State has been made and implemented. So now they are faced with Kerry's stark dilemma: Jewish or democratic.
People's response to this reality falls I think into one of four positions:
Option 3 sounds "anticolonial" and "revolutionary" but it is delusional as it ignores the facts on the ground. It is also unjust. Just like any other settler-colonial state from Canada, to Brazil, to the US, to Australia, there is no reset button that can be pressed to undo history. We have to live with the legacy of settler colonialism. There are Israeli jewish babies being born today that are third, fourth or fifth generation "sabras". You can play the pseudofanonist edgelord and imagine some kind of Pied-noir style "the suitcase or the coffin" expulsion, but even the Pieds-noirs were only about 1 million and 10% of Algeria's population, as opposed to about 7 million and 50% of the population of the land of historic Palestine. Those people aren't going anywhere. The 7 million Palestinians are also not going anywhere unless the Israelis are allowed to complete the genocide.
The only path forward that is not (further) genocide or slavery is the extremely difficult path to decolonization. Reparations, truth and reconciliation, democracy, human rights for both communities. From the goddamn river to the goddamn sea.
BlindPenguin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 43d
Maybe the Romans shouldn't have left the area /s
gdtf@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 43d
How come no one ends him?
WatDabney@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 45d
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 43d
Asshole.
migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 43d
They need some Lebensraum für die Tausendjahr Reich
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 43d
God sure stirred up some shit when he started giving land away to specific groups of people. I guess Netanyahu is just one more of the monsters created by God.