Never get involved in a land war in Asia is a known truism, thanks to the frigid Siberian winter and the mud season. Except there are plenty of historical examples of the Russian steppes being conquered, usually when there is a lot of internal strife between the factions there. A lot of the time they don't really get a long.
And so it is with the US. The people here are struggling to get organized, and I still point to the massive far-right propaganda machine that dominates social media and television viewership that is telling us that our marginalized groups are the cause of all their woes. I want to believe we're smartening up what with rising prices and illegal wars and the blatant corruption of the political and ownership classes. But much effort has gone into keeping the common white American really ignorant and stupid.
I think they're going to try to do it with a large human paramilitary force, such as with ICE, and with the help of the surveillance state. For now they're coming for the immigrants. Then the disabled. And then the protestors and then the Democrats.
There is a reason the AK47 is a symbol of revolution for those that dare to resist imperialism. The AK47 is significantly more reliable and easier to maintain than either of those weapons. In guerilla warfare it is far far superior to either of those weapons. The AK47 keeps firing when it's covered in dirt. The same cannot be said of the M-16 or M-4.
You're essentially saying that reaper drones are superior to the Shahed drones. Yes. On paper. But it's not about one weapon going head to head with another. It's about what is actually best for winning the fight.
Iran has proven that high maintenance and high tolerance weapons with massive firepower and features will quickly become inferior to the easy to manufacture Shaheds that are essentially flying on a lawn mower engine.
Not to mention the countless resistance forces that defeated the American military with the AK47 as its flagship weapon of combat.
Sure it depends on what the conflict is, who's fighting it, what the logistics and infrastructure looks like, etc. As a symbol, sure AK47. However in reference to America in this thread, actually an AR-15 type rifle would probably be the best symbol.
If those people are provided for by their community and able to live a stable life within it, why would they ever accept a position to harm that community and disenfranchise it of its resources?
For them to be hired they must first be destitute enough to consider abandoning their solidarity for the possibility of stability.
Don't worry! If only the other monkeys allow that one monkey to own and monopolise all the banana trees, eventually some of the bananas will come trickling down to them... in the form of ape monkey piss.
Thank you for the insight, good Sir or Madam! I will not stick my head in the sand like an ostrich, but will henceforth use imagery that is in line with our modern understanding of biology.
It would never happen because as soon as they take a little too much, they'd be kicked out of the troop. Like with everything else, overpopulation is a big part of the problem here. A human troop kicking you out doesn't have huge consequences like it did when we lived in groups of 150 or so.
Overpopulation is a eugenics myth. Stop spreading it.
The problem is our economic and political systems incentivize the hoarding of resources behind private ownership in order to leverage access to them in return for status and power.
Stop handwaving from your underinformed pedestal and listen. Human population exploded in response to becoming more stationary and, more directly, in response to widespread grain agriculture (encouraging earlier weaning via oatmeal so ladies could get back to work). As populations grew, so did food demands... keep going for a bit and you get states and taxes and wealth disparity. Keep going for a bit and you get to where we are today. I'm not saying kill people - I'm saying that resource hoarding became a thing when we stopped hunting and gathering and started being more competitive over land and other resources. We started being more competitive when we started rubbing shoulders too frequently with people outside of our core tribes - when population exploded.
No, cash doesn't. That's the one benefit of inflation. It causes cash to lose its value over time. It encourages people to invest. But the wealthy don't horde cash, they horde ownership and I'm sure that's basically what you meant.
A bank will give you a laughably low interest that will not keep up with inflation. Rich people are not doing that. It's okay to just say, thanks for the correction, and then move on with your life. You don't have to get defensive for no reason.
That's not at all the analogy being made here. The bananas being hoarded in a fair analogy would be a banana mountain reaching above the clouds. I don't think family units within larger ape communities are doing that. Stay focused.
Very telling that you thought of Trump when no one referenced that diapered pedophile. Maybe it was the recent news about scamming over $1B using rug pull crypto while in office?
Very grifter, the tool has little bearing. If it wasn't crypto it would have been Trump Steaks, Trump University, or Trump Casinos. Crypto just made it easier to scam people without physical proximity.
Where are all the banana holders in today's society? Everyones passing off their bananas, nobody is holding them up proud, we used to have a proud tradition of bananas in this, everyone loved them, everyone loved bananas. No bananas today, they're gone, they tell me, gone.
61 Comments
zd9@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 47d
In reality, the starving monkeys would kill the shit out of that monkey and take all his bananas to share with everyone else.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 19 pts · 47d
Based and monkey-pilled.
LuminousLuddite@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 46d
A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 47d
We shouldn't have invented weapons ☹️
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 47d
A billionaire can't hold a million AK47s. A million people can though.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 21 pts · 47d
Not yet. I think they're desperately working on it right now.
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 47d
The population of the United States is over 300 million. If we lose to the robots that can't even load a dishwasher it's gonna be really embarrassing.
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 47d
Never get involved in a land war in Asia is a known truism, thanks to the frigid Siberian winter and the mud season. Except there are plenty of historical examples of the Russian steppes being conquered, usually when there is a lot of internal strife between the factions there. A lot of the time they don't really get a long.
And so it is with the US. The people here are struggling to get organized, and I still point to the massive far-right propaganda machine that dominates social media and television viewership that is telling us that our marginalized groups are the cause of all their woes. I want to believe we're smartening up what with rising prices and illegal wars and the blatant corruption of the political and ownership classes. But much effort has gone into keeping the common white American really ignorant and stupid.
I think they're going to try to do it with a large human paramilitary force, such as with ICE, and with the help of the surveillance state. For now they're coming for the immigrants. Then the disabled. And then the protestors and then the Democrats.
I really hope we catch on before it's too late.
zd9@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 46d
ICE has received more funding than many other countries' entire militaries. Palantir, Anduril, Shield AI, and others are all owned and controlled by the tech fascists trying to collapse the United States and rebuild as Network State monarchies.
If this situation ever ends, it's not going to end peacefully.
kadotux@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 46d
Well do you know what happened between Australians and emus?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 46d
That's called the Taint.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 2 pts · 47d
And it only takes a single bullet
zd9@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 46d
AK47? What kind of garbage platform is that? Maybe M-16 or M-4
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 46d
I used the AK47 knowing it would bait gun nerds.
There is a reason the AK47 is a symbol of revolution for those that dare to resist imperialism. The AK47 is significantly more reliable and easier to maintain than either of those weapons. In guerilla warfare it is far far superior to either of those weapons. The AK47 keeps firing when it's covered in dirt. The same cannot be said of the M-16 or M-4.
You're essentially saying that reaper drones are superior to the Shahed drones. Yes. On paper. But it's not about one weapon going head to head with another. It's about what is actually best for winning the fight.
Iran has proven that high maintenance and high tolerance weapons with massive firepower and features will quickly become inferior to the easy to manufacture Shaheds that are essentially flying on a lawn mower engine.
Not to mention the countless resistance forces that defeated the American military with the AK47 as its flagship weapon of combat.
Edit: Shahed not shaded. Autocorrect.
zd9@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 46d
Sure it depends on what the conflict is, who's fighting it, what the logistics and infrastructure looks like, etc. As a symbol, sure AK47. However in reference to America in this thread, actually an AR-15 type rifle would probably be the best symbol.
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 45d
Absolutely. Definitely less AK47s in the US sitting around. I just knew a gun nerd would come along and I appreciate the conversation.
petersr@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 45d
A billionaire can hire a million people to hold those AK47s.
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 45d
If those people are provided for by their community and able to live a stable life within it, why would they ever accept a position to harm that community and disenfranchise it of its resources?
For them to be hired they must first be destitute enough to consider abandoning their solidarity for the possibility of stability.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 46d
Can we point them at the billionaire?
Zier@fedia.io · 3 pts · 47d
Anything can be a weapon if you have enough imagination... including bananas.
stumpelrilzchen@feddit.org · 29 pts · 47d
Don't worry! If only the other monkeys allow that one monkey to own and monopolise all the banana trees, eventually some of the bananas will come trickling down to them... in the form of
apemonkey piss.//Edit: terminological correction
BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 47d
stumpelrilzchen@feddit.org · 5 pts · 47d
Thank you for the insight, good Sir or Madam! I will not stick my head in the sand like an ostrich, but will henceforth use imagery that is in line with our modern understanding of biology.
Magnum@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 46d
They're both primates, most monkeys have a tail, while most apes do not.
stumpelrilzchen@feddit.org · 3 pts · 46d
Thank you for clarifying! Now I'm no longer blind as a bat to this fact.
bloogoose@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 46d
feetandballs@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 46d
It would never happen because as soon as they take a little too much, they'd be kicked out of the troop. Like with everything else, overpopulation is a big part of the problem here. A human troop kicking you out doesn't have huge consequences like it did when we lived in groups of 150 or so.
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 45d
Overpopulation is a eugenics myth. Stop spreading it.
The problem is our economic and political systems incentivize the hoarding of resources behind private ownership in order to leverage access to them in return for status and power.
Impractical_Island@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 45d
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 45d
Lol, all because I said ACAB after your delusional rant you gonna try to spread this bullshit. You're a fucking joke dude.
Seek professional help.
Impractical_Island@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 45d
You're not actually listening to anything I tell you.
I am receiving professional help.
I have requested more.
They refused to give me more.
I asked again.
The therapist didn't show up.
How tf is that my fault or problem at this point?
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 45d
Lol, you finally figured that out? I haven't read a thing you've said.
Impractical_Island@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 45d
I'm not talking to you out here.
I'm broadcasting.
feetandballs@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 45d
Stop handwaving from your underinformed pedestal and listen. Human population exploded in response to becoming more stationary and, more directly, in response to widespread grain agriculture (encouraging earlier weaning via oatmeal so ladies could get back to work). As populations grew, so did food demands... keep going for a bit and you get states and taxes and wealth disparity. Keep going for a bit and you get to where we are today. I'm not saying kill people - I'm saying that resource hoarding became a thing when we stopped hunting and gathering and started being more competitive over land and other resources. We started being more competitive when we started rubbing shoulders too frequently with people outside of our core tribes - when population exploded.
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 44d
Nice attempt at shifting the goal posts. Did the human population bloom? Yes. Is that the same as Overpopulation? No.
Overpopulation is a myth of eugenics. Full stop. Nothing you said changes this. I know how civilization came about. I've read Graeber plenty.
Oh and you gonna end it with being xenophobic nonsense too? Rubbing shoulders with other cultures is a GOOD THING you regressive, primitivist fuckwit.
feetandballs@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 44d
Shifting the goalposts.. back to where I put them? Go back to whatever hobby calms down your condition.
belunos@lemmus.org · 5 pts · 47d
Trickle down something I dunno I wasn't paying attention
DakRalter@thelemmy.club · 12 pts · 46d
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 47d
Bananas rapidly devalue the longer they are held, cash stored in a bank or pretty much anywhere else increases in value
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 47d
No, cash doesn't. That's the one benefit of inflation. It causes cash to lose its value over time. It encourages people to invest. But the wealthy don't horde cash, they horde ownership and I'm sure that's basically what you meant.
ryannathans@aussie.zone · -1 pts · 47d
That's what I said, bananas hoarded aren't being invested
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 47d
You quite literally said cash being hoarded increases in value.
ryannathans@aussie.zone · -4 pts · 47d
I literally said cash stored in a bank or pretty much anywhere else increases in value
Do you store your cash in a jar under your bed? That's pretty much the only place it doesn't accrue interest
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 46d
A bank will give you a laughably low interest that will not keep up with inflation. Rich people are not doing that. It's okay to just say, thanks for the correction, and then move on with your life. You don't have to get defensive for no reason.
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 46d
You sound pretty defensive, borderline bananas even
marcos@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 47d
Many monkeys do that, they only share with closely related ones. Lots of other kinds of animals do it too.
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 47d
That's not at all the analogy being made here. The bananas being hoarded in a fair analogy would be a banana mountain reaching above the clouds. I don't think family units within larger ape communities are doing that. Stay focused.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 47d
No! Trump bad!
Epp@lemmus.org · 6 pts · 47d
Very telling that you thought of Trump when no one referenced that diapered pedophile. Maybe it was the recent news about scamming over $1B using rug pull crypto while in office?
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 47d
Very crypto
Epp@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 47d
Very grifter, the tool has little bearing. If it wasn't crypto it would have been Trump Steaks, Trump University, or Trump Casinos. Crypto just made it easier to scam people without physical proximity.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 46d
Wait. Donald Trump is dishonest? Whew. I had not heard about that.
Does anyone else know?
Epp@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 46d
Definitely not his supporters. They think he's God on Earth.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 46d
Really? Source?
DougPiranha42@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 47d
Show me a forbes cover with a person holding onto a ton of bananas…
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 46d
"YES! We have no bananas! We have no bananas today!"
Sidhean@piefed.social · 1 pts · 46d
Where are all the banana holders in today's society? Everyones passing off their bananas, nobody is holding them up proud, we used to have a proud tradition of bananas in this, everyone loved them, everyone loved bananas. No bananas today, they're gone, they tell me, gone.