Spanish government ‘quietly bans use of Palantir’ in critical state systems over fears of national security leaks
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/spanish-bans-palantir-national-security-5HjdcNp_2/
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/spanish-bans-palantir-national-security-5HjdcNp_2/
56 Comments
bl4ckp1xx13@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 74 pts · 34d
Damn right it's a national security concern, let the US keep it's spyware to itself.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 34d
You'd think that an entities senior leadership and investors being populated with openly corrupt, anti-democratic, mentally-ill, psychopathic, megalomaniacal, fascists and pedophiles would be a deal breaker, but most of the political class across Liberal "democracies" don't have a problem with it.
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 34d
why would they have a problem with people just like them?
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 34d
They should do it loudly, imho
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 43 pts · 34d
Responsible personnel?
In a government?
In this time, age and economy?
Holy fuck. I must be dreaming.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 34d
Pedro Sanchez is a capable prime minister of the ruling Spanish Socialist Worker's Party. Unfortunately, his party and his family members are embroiled in scandals which tarnishes his legacy. But that's not to say that Pedro isn't corrupt himself, he just hadn't been directly implicated.
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 34d
I have yet to meet a single person from Spain who doesn't despise him, even if they're left wing
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 34d
As an outsider, I kinda like him but hearing of the controversies surrounding him, it says a lot that he could be looking the other way even though he may not be directly involved.
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 32d
That's the thing though, the only people who like him are people outside of Spain. He has a 33% approval rating, he's somehow even more unpopular in his country than Trump is in America. They really hate this guy over there.
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 34d
Spanish government
I think you found a hack, actually.
Melusine@tarte.nuage-libre.fr · 27 pts · 34d
Why quietly, though? Scream it to the world that you are kicking out Palantir!
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 34d
I have noticed what appears to be an uptick in the usage of quietly recently. It's like the new "slammed".
Rubanski@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 34d
Maybe because AI loves using adverbs. Like, there is always an uncanny amount of adverbs. So my guess is those headlines are ai generated or at least partially written
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 34d
But then the mutated Orange would throw a fit and slam his small nub of a dick around.
ITGuyLevi@programming.dev · 24 pts · 34d
I mean did any country think it was a one-way info faucet? Where do they think the Intel was coming from?
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 34d
Not from AMD.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 34d
It's an interesting point.
I would assume, personally, given that the Biden admin and Trump I admin were staffed with actual serious people, that there were more guardrails and oversight and Alex Karp had to be better behaved in his business operations. The billionaires, however, are running the asylum now, and there are absolutely no guardrails.
In 10-20 years, when Donald is gone and people feel safe to write books about what's actually happening right now, it's going to make for interesting and enlightening reading.
pnwpixel@programming.dev · 6 pts · 34d
"enlightening" is mighty generous
nialv7@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 34d
the Spanish government is very based. how do i move to Spain?
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 34d
Look for work there? If you're in the EU, you'd just come over and look for a rent spot
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · -1 pts · 34d
Same as to any other EU country.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 34d
(as a EU citizen)
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 2 pts · 34d
Are the different immigration rules for people from outside of EU depending on which EU country they want to enter?
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/work-abroad/work-permits/index_en.htm
Looking at this the rules are EU wide, not specific to member countries.
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl · 7 pts · 34d
There are very different rules. Like worlds different.
Comparing just Belgium and the Netherlands right next to each other. The Netherlands is quite doable if you find a job. Some automatic work visas and then residence based on that depending on origin country
In Belgium literally no company in the country outside of IMEC and Deloitte will go through the extremely long visa sponsorship program (only digitalized in 2022 IIRC). It is pretty much only possible if you have family or a partner that already lives there. Even people studying there for 3-8 years have a few months to find a job or they are kicked out (in a bad job market compared to other countries also).
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 2 pts · 34d
Interesting. I didn't know that.
Prathas@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 34d
Have they always been this exclusionist?
mabeledo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 34d
That site doesn’t address residency or visa requirements. But I can confirm, they are different depending on the country of origin and destination.
sukhmel@programming.dev · -5 pts · 34d
Shit ton of money
and being prepared for huge taxescould helpEdit: turns out the taxes are better than in other places
73ms@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 34d
what huge taxes are you talking about? it's not that different from what you'd expect in the EU in general, lower than some and higher than others. Pretty typical for Western Europe.
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 1 pts · 34d
Huge taxes compared to where?
sukhmel@programming.dev · 0 pts · 34d
To eastern Europe, for instance
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 7 pts · 34d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Freedom_Day
Spain: 37%
Poland: 44%
Finland: 45%
Latvia: 44%
Hungary: 59%
Czech Rep.: 45%
Other source: https://www.brusselsreport.eu/2021/07/22/new-study-compares-tax-freedom-days-in-europe-and-around-the-world/
Spain: 43%
Poland: 44.5%
Czech Rep.: 43.7%
Hungary: 46%
Another source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/oecd-tax-rates-by-country
Spain: 39%
Poland: 33%
Lithuania; 38%
Hungary: 41%
Finland: 43%
So... no?
sukhmel@programming.dev · 6 pts · 34d
Hm, maybe I was wrong, will edit then
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 0 pts · 34d
I would also dispute the "shitload of money" claim. Moving always costs money but I know bunch of people that moved from South America, Australia or Eastern Europe and none of them are rich. You really just need to be able to find a job. Any job. If you have a skill that's needed here you will be fine.
sukhmel@programming.dev · 1 pts · 34d
Well, I meant it more in the sense that otherwise moving is usually hard work and is more or less no different for any country
mabeledo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d
Uh, I don’t think it’s that easy, though. For instance, non EU residents cannot get a work visa unless they are sponsored by Spanish companies and have proof that they will be earning “adequate” wages, typically more than 20,000 euro a year.
Armand1@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 34d
Can we have that in the UK too?
EtzBetz@feddit.org · 4 pts · 34d
Can we have that in Germany too?
londos@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/andy-burnham-nhs-palantir-contract-ethical-concerns-1806684
Armand1@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
Let's hope he goes through with it.
qevlarr@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 34d
I'm jealous. Spain government doing everything right in the struggle against big tech dystopia, genocide, fascism. 🇪🇸
Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 34d
Spain keeps on winning. Hell yeah! Let's fucking go!
Cavemanfreak@programming.dev · 3 pts · 34d
And in Sweden we're signing up for even more use of Palantir by the military and police... 🙃
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 34d
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d
Estaban usando palantir? Qué hijos de perra
Lumisal@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 34d
At least they stopped using it.
More than can be said about the current Finnish government
garbage_world@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 34d
Amberskin@europe.pub · 15 pts · 34d
You mean like… not using that kind of evil technology?
garbage_world@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 34d
Amberskin@europe.pub · 20 pts · 34d
You don’t need an alternative to Palantir if you decide not to use the kind of distopic shit palantir sells.
garbage_world@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 34d
mabeledo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 34d
Obvious troll is obvious.
Amberskin@europe.pub · 1 pts · 33d
You can take your fascist ‘crime prevention’ and shove it.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 34d
So you say "no" to "not using evil technology"
I guess at least you admit it's evil.
mabeledo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 34d
To what? And for what purpose?