Californian here, and I would agree that US-CA isn’t really the problem that, say, Kentucky is and that’s why the bourbon boycott is effective.
But, hurt US-CA and you’re hurting the US, so I support that. And the elephant in the room is that are more Republicans in US-CA than any other state, and I’d wager a high percentage of winery owners skew Republican.
It’s a shame, but the boycott is warranted. I just hope that when we get back to sane times, other countries remember that California largely tries to do the right thing. The way you look at the US, us Californians look at the rest of the US the same way.
And sane people outnumber "reactionaries"/republicans. Your point?
You're willfully ignorant if you think the average California voter does more harm than the harmful Kentucky voter. See Mitch McConnell. Credit where due, however, their governor is pretty good.
All of that isn't to say I object to the boycott. I most certainly do not.
Is it really that simple when the technology companies that have enabled all of this the most have been most supported by and enabled by California. I agree that the average persons worldview is much healthier in California but none of this is likely to have happened without the dominant social platforms and data collection of American tech.
Right, because the trouble is that boycotts become meaningless when you start trying to justify buying from certain states (no state is homogenous) or by C-suite political support (also not homogenous). At the end of the day, the tax money all funds a government that threatens Canada with economic warfare and annexation. I hope US businesses run by good people do well, but right now it has to be Americans themselves who support them.
I just want to point out that in the context of multiple countries, "CA" would refer to Canada, as it's literally the worldwide recognized 2-letter ISO-3166 country code.
And yes, while most people would understand what is meant from the context, using US defaultism in a thread about another country boycotting US American products kinda bumps.
That is an extremely good point, and does expose my bias (I live in California, but ironically dual Canadian citizen). I'll lightly edit the comment using the ISO-3166 code for California (respectfully for you, because as much of a fan of ISO standards as I am, I'd not heard of 3166. Thanks).
I live in wine country. Anyone who owns a winery is a capitalist douchebag, full fuckin stop. Feel no sympathy for them in your decision making. Boycott the cunts into the fucking ground.
I was talking to my bro a few weeks ago, after an edible and a joint mind you, and I had the idea that the best thing the rest of the world could do is to stop acknowledging the US as a whole and ONLY recognize individual states as independent nations.
I mean there are many reasons that would prevent it from happening. But thinking about the ramifications if the international community just had enough of the US's bullshit that they decided to do it that way would be very interesting.
It's not without merit either, as the "states rights" people in the US might even support it, which would be absolutely wild.
Just a thought experiment, fueled by an altered state of mind, produced happy thoughts
Oh I can assure you China, Iran, and Ukraine are done with USA's bullshit. China started it by being the first to tell Trump no in his 2nd term by shutting off rare earth metals.
It's not a la carte dicks of America. It's United States of America. At a certain geopolitical level there is no good vs evil. Just politicians vs politicians.
This is why having normal human beings in the driver's seat is important and not just entertainment.
Well it's not Mr. Peterson from Wyoming either. But we can't individualize how we treat USA. USA is making threats and has started a trade war, so we have to respond to USA as a whole. Both Canada and EU.
Not only will I not buy us booze if back on the shelves but I actively avoid buying any american products if possible and I will never travel there again in my life time.
Fuck the pedophile and all who support him and the others who are full of apathy and avarice and sit idly by.
This like all the other trade that is disappearing to the EU is going to become a permanent change. Prior allies now view the US as an enemy and aggressor and are forming alternative routes of trade. This will not be returning just because the president is changed in the future. The relationship is over.
I can only hope that the US snaps back hard managing to show the world that there are still good people here...maybe after civil war 2 electric boogaloo
Unless there is a Nuremberg style trial for the current administration, I don't know how America can gain back it's trust.
Even if Americans elect a president that is super helpful/generous to allies, there is always the chance that they elect another Trump in the following election who basically has almost free reign to do anything they want with no consequences.
The constitution that Americans beat over everyone's heads has been revealed to be republican toilet paper.
Yeah, Trump has exposed how broken the American system is. He's exposed American as completely incapable, or unwilling, of preventing a criminal enterprise from running the country into the ground.
I can't believe Russia somehow won the cold war after all this time, for all the red scare anti communist shit this country went through, they now resemble Russian style oligarchy run by criminal barons more and more, how soon before Trump starts another war to justify why he needs to remain in power
Most of the good people that don't just flee would be dead after a Civil War 2, leaving only proficient killers and crooks, or just cowards who keep their noses down. Large swathes of the country would be, for decades at least, one of "those places" that you never travel to and hear tales of barbarism from every now and then. Civil war would be a degradation, not a redemption arc.
Yeah that's what I think as well, because Trump is just a symptom of a larger issue, he represents a large percentage of americans, especially amonght the rich, he did not get to this position without the backing of these greedy fascist pigs who know they can use him to make a lot of profit at the expense of the common people, even when he's gone, these foreign nations still have to deal with these greedy sociopaths and their meddling in foreign affairs, not to mention the dumb voting public who might just back another little Nazi who makes them feel good about themselves
I was thinking the other day how funny it is that the Untied States has had such wide influence that multiple IPs from other countries got movies made in America (Harry Potter, Smurfs, LEGO, The Handmaid'sTale). Now that Trump has ruined America's relationship with the rest of the world, I wonder if we'll see less of that
we desperately need the whole world to boycott us to save us from the orange chomo-in-chief
The rest of the world will do what we can to protect ourselves from your country's government, but it's up to American citizens to do the hard work of fixing their own damn country.
I mean, it was obviously a mistake but fair to judge even if it's on a completely different scale to half your country eagerly electing a modern day pedophilic fascist a SECOND time who has proceeded to fuck over most of the world and repeatedly threatened to annex my country.
You could have mentioned Canada's treatment of indigenous peoples and the residential schools that went on as late as the 1990s which would have also been a fair thing to judge (I judge it too) but I'm still going to judge the USA harshly for enthusiastically electing a shit starting demented pedo nazi
It has cascading effects. Boycotts are kind of great like that and also it's why they're so highly propogandized against. "It doesn't work bro, it won't change anything. Why wouldn't you just use google" don't buy it. Boycott more stuff.
I'm not judging every American individually, some did try hard to prevent this mess, but I am judging America collectively for allowing this to happen. I'm sick of being told the vast majority were against Trump. If the VAST majority are against him, he'd have lost the election by a landslide. I don't understand the weird political inertia in America that guarantees every major candidate roughly half the votes no matter what. And fuck those who say that a lot of Americans didn't vote, as though that exonerates them. Choosing not to vote means they didn't give a fuck if fascists took over.
And fuck those who say that a lot of Americans didn’t vote, as though that exonerates them.
The US disenfranchises voters with a variety of techniques. One of those techniques is to foster guarantee popular candidates aren't afforded a place on the general election ballot.
If you've got nobody to vote for, I can't blame you for not voting. Demanding people participate in a ritualized farce of democracy when the race is uncontested is pure foolishness.
It's not your hook. They're dealing with their fascists. You're dealing with yours.
When Canada stops putting members of the Ford family in elected offices and clapping for real literal 1930s Nazis, they can tell the Americans about how to do democracy correctly.
They could still vote against an obviously horrible candidate.
That's not how elections work. The seat doesn't sit vacant because enough people vote "I don't like you" to the winning candidate.
In either of those counties the minority percentages are the wealthy land owners who put huge Trump signs along the fences of their vinyards and orchards. They're also the ones who hire the undocumented workers every season, but that's a whole other discussion.
Won't someone think of the poor poor drug dealing capitalists with their measly 40 billion dollar industry!
The valley itself may have split in Harris' favor, but how do you suppose the private owners and the shareholders of the publicly traded wine companies voted? Do you think the people who actually pick and ferment the grapes would be that much better off if Canadians had never left the market? As if any downsizing and job-loss wasn't already in the chamber and waiting for a convenient excuse to do what the ownership class was always gonna do anyway.
I'm from Maine and took a road trip to Halifax, Nova Scotia recently. I stopped in a licquor store (the LC) and jokingly asked the cashiers where the bourbon was. They got a good chuckle out of that one.
Rideau Whiskey may not say it's Bourbon on the bottle, but there's bourbon in the bottle. Because of some dumb laws you can't call it bourbon unless it's made a certain region in the US, sort of like champagne. So we actually do have bourbon, even if it's not called that.
It’s kind of like how sparking wine must come from the Champagne region of France to be termed Champagne.
Bourbon is just a naming convention for corn whiskey. I’m just finding out based on your post that Rideau Whiskey is in my neck of the woods, and I will have to try it! BRBN from Okanagan Spirits has been our recent treat - my husband really loves bourbon and this has hit the mark
Oof, it's $60 now, it was $40 when I bought a couple of bottles of it. It's kinda weird because I can't find it on the LCBO site, I had to order it online.
I like it better than Wild Turkey or Maker's. Not sure if I'd consider it to be high end tho.
Clan Colla (from Ireland tho, not Canada) is really good, better than Booker's (which used to be my favourite) IMO. But that's super hard to get, I happened to pick up a bottle of it at the Dublin airport and now in my circle we consider it to be the best. Which is kind of a problem since it's so hard to get.
Too bad you didn't take the opportunity to drink some Legendario, my favourite (so far) Cuban rum. Had my buddy in Nova Scotia bring me some a few months ago when he was coming out. Wish they sold it it my area but sadly they do not. Happily however I have friends
California senators don't get to tell me what to buy. Framing it as a "boycott" is just wrong, at least where I live. We have American booze on the shelves. I just don't want to buy American garbage anymore so I'm not doing it.
Framing it as a “boycott” is just wrong, at least where I live
I avoid most US chains and import foods simply because they're junk, so I know what you mean, but that doesn't negate the boycott movement of people who were regularly buying US products.
Boycott - To abstain, either as an individual or a group, from using, buying, or dealing with someone or some organization as an expression of protest.
For me those last words, "as an expression of protest" are important. For me there's no protest and thus no boycott. The upset caused me to try Canadian products. I like them better.
I feel bad for Americans who didn't have much choice in Trump being elected. However that is tempered by the fact that they are not inudating their congressmen and senators to get rid of Trump. They are timidly waiting for the next set of elections hoping that will change things although Trump has already meddled enough that even a landslide vote against him may not change a single thing. Write, email, text and phone your elected officials and tell them to get rid of him.
One of the things that bother me most is people clinging to the assumption that this will be over after the election. I can't wait til November when either they're proven wrong or I am, either way I guess something will change whether that be for better or for worse
Yes feel bad for us by helping us get rid of the chomo-in-chief by boycotting us. Yes we write our Congress and go to protests but they don't care unless it affects their bottom line.
I'm a Californian and support the boycott. But the majority of comments in here are misguided.
This is like commenting on an article you haven't read about the First Minister of Scotland saying how negative Brexit is for Scotland, and responding "You shouldn't have voted Brexit then, dumbass!"
Also kinda like how California has consistently, overwhelmingly, voted against Trump, and is one of the most oppositional states in the country against his fascist regime.
Idk how useful is to try to separate regions or groups in a democracy. Did those winery owners votes for Trump? Did they complain a lot when the US menaced Canada with an invasion?
As though acting like assholes wouldn't hurt us. /s
I saw a headline last night about how building new housing is impacted by a labor shortage. I wonder how that happened. The repercussions are beginning to appear in ways that average people notice. It's not gonna be pleasant. Got what you voted for, assholes (USA citizen, can't believe we did this to ourselves again).
Allied intelligence realized that it would be far worse to kill Adolf Hitler and have him replaced with someone competent then allow him to continue fumbling things.
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NM_Gringo@lemmy.world · 126 pts · 51d
Maybe being a bag of dicks to the rest of the world wasn't such a great idea.
Drusas@fedia.io · 36 pts · 51d
It's not California being a dick. But the boycott is justified all the same.
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 64 pts · 51d
Californian here, and I would agree that US-CA isn’t really the problem that, say, Kentucky is and that’s why the bourbon boycott is effective. But, hurt US-CA and you’re hurting the US, so I support that. And the elephant in the room is that are more Republicans in US-CA than any other state, and I’d wager a high percentage of winery owners skew Republican.
It’s a shame, but the boycott is warranted. I just hope that when we get back to sane times, other countries remember that California largely tries to do the right thing. The way you look at the US, us Californians look at the rest of the US the same way.
venusaur@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 51d
Yeah all those winery owners are rich conservatives
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 51d
Reactionaries in California outnumber reactionaries in Kentucky 10:1
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 51d
And sane people outnumber "reactionaries"/republicans. Your point?
You're willfully ignorant if you think the average California voter does more harm than the harmful Kentucky voter. See Mitch McConnell. Credit where due, however, their governor is pretty good.
All of that isn't to say I object to the boycott. I most certainly do not.
BigJohnnyHines@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 50d
Is it really that simple when the technology companies that have enabled all of this the most have been most supported by and enabled by California. I agree that the average persons worldview is much healthier in California but none of this is likely to have happened without the dominant social platforms and data collection of American tech.
blitzen@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 50d
That's capitalism, baby. And I hate it too.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 50d
I've seen enough evidence to believe Gavin Newsom and Dianne Feinstein have committed atrocities. Nevermind Kamala Harris.
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 50d
"Atrocities", really? Did you bring that evidence to share with the class?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 50d
For starters...
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 50d
Right, because the trouble is that boycotts become meaningless when you start trying to justify buying from certain states (no state is homogenous) or by C-suite political support (also not homogenous). At the end of the day, the tax money all funds a government that threatens Canada with economic warfare and annexation. I hope US businesses run by good people do well, but right now it has to be Americans themselves who support them.
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 50d
You seem to be under the impression that I do not support Canadas boycott. I do. Re-read my comment.
CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 50d
I just want to point out that in the context of multiple countries, "CA" would refer to Canada, as it's literally the worldwide recognized 2-letter ISO-3166 country code.
And yes, while most people would understand what is meant from the context, using US defaultism in a thread about another country boycotting US American products kinda bumps.
blitzen@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 50d
That is an extremely good point, and does expose my bias (I live in California, but ironically dual Canadian citizen). I'll lightly edit the comment using the ISO-3166 code for California (respectfully for you, because as much of a fan of ISO standards as I am, I'd not heard of 3166. Thanks).
wasabi_noir@lemmy.zip · 29 pts · 51d
I live in wine country. Anyone who owns a winery is a capitalist douchebag, full fuckin stop. Feel no sympathy for them in your decision making. Boycott the cunts into the fucking ground.
dmalteseknight@programming.dev · 19 pts · 51d
I mean for the rest of the world noone cares what individual states think and do. The president and his administration represent the American people.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 51d
California is flush with right wing reactionaries and techno-fascist shitheads.
dudeface@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 51d
Can’t really selectively target a nations dipshits so unfortunately you all get punished for not stopping it
Jarix@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 51d
I was talking to my bro a few weeks ago, after an edible and a joint mind you, and I had the idea that the best thing the rest of the world could do is to stop acknowledging the US as a whole and ONLY recognize individual states as independent nations.
This would cause so much chaos
evenglow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
USA has been doing just that for years. Look up FEOC.
dudeface@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 51d
That would mean the EU or various other unions around the world would have to expect the same treatment in return
Also most countries like the UN rules
Jarix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 51d
I mean there are many reasons that would prevent it from happening. But thinking about the ramifications if the international community just had enough of the US's bullshit that they decided to do it that way would be very interesting.
It's not without merit either, as the "states rights" people in the US might even support it, which would be absolutely wild.
Just a thought experiment, fueled by an altered state of mind, produced happy thoughts
evenglow@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
Oh I can assure you China, Iran, and Ukraine are done with USA's bullshit. China started it by being the first to tell Trump no in his 2nd term by shutting off rare earth metals.
calcopiritus@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 51d
California, home to the most evil and powerful companies in the world. Lmao.
evenglow@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 51d
It's not a la carte dicks of America. It's United States of America. At a certain geopolitical level there is no good vs evil. Just politicians vs politicians.
This is why having normal human beings in the driver's seat is important and not just entertainment.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 51d
Well it's not Mr. Peterson from Wyoming either. But we can't individualize how we treat USA. USA is making threats and has started a trade war, so we have to respond to USA as a whole. Both Canada and EU.
masterspace@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 51d
Some of California votes consistently Republican. The whole state is not exempt.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 50d
38% of California, in the last election. Mostly in rural areas.
masterspace@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 49d
Like the wine growing areas eh?
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 54 pts · 51d
Not only will I not buy us booze if back on the shelves but I actively avoid buying any american products if possible and I will never travel there again in my life time. Fuck the pedophile and all who support him and the others who are full of apathy and avarice and sit idly by.
BrightCandle@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 51d
This like all the other trade that is disappearing to the EU is going to become a permanent change. Prior allies now view the US as an enemy and aggressor and are forming alternative routes of trade. This will not be returning just because the president is changed in the future. The relationship is over.
CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 51d
I can only hope that the US snaps back hard managing to show the world that there are still good people here...maybe after civil war 2 electric boogaloo
dmalteseknight@programming.dev · 30 pts · 51d
Unless there is a Nuremberg style trial for the current administration, I don't know how America can gain back it's trust.
Even if Americans elect a president that is super helpful/generous to allies, there is always the chance that they elect another Trump in the following election who basically has almost free reign to do anything they want with no consequences.
The constitution that Americans beat over everyone's heads has been revealed to be republican toilet paper.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 50d
Yeah, Trump has exposed how broken the American system is. He's exposed American as completely incapable, or unwilling, of preventing a criminal enterprise from running the country into the ground.
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 50d
I can't believe Russia somehow won the cold war after all this time, for all the red scare anti communist shit this country went through, they now resemble Russian style oligarchy run by criminal barons more and more, how soon before Trump starts another war to justify why he needs to remain in power
Carmakazi@piefed.social · 9 pts · 51d
Most of the good people that don't just flee would be dead after a Civil War 2, leaving only proficient killers and crooks, or just cowards who keep their noses down. Large swathes of the country would be, for decades at least, one of "those places" that you never travel to and hear tales of barbarism from every now and then. Civil war would be a degradation, not a redemption arc.
Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 51d
lol, still won't be true after a civil war
BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 50d
Yeah that's what I think as well, because Trump is just a symptom of a larger issue, he represents a large percentage of americans, especially amonght the rich, he did not get to this position without the backing of these greedy fascist pigs who know they can use him to make a lot of profit at the expense of the common people, even when he's gone, these foreign nations still have to deal with these greedy sociopaths and their meddling in foreign affairs, not to mention the dumb voting public who might just back another little Nazi who makes them feel good about themselves
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 50d
I was thinking the other day how funny it is that the Untied States has had such wide influence that multiple IPs from other countries got movies made in America (Harry Potter, Smurfs, LEGO, The Handmaid'sTale). Now that Trump has ruined America's relationship with the rest of the world, I wonder if we'll see less of that
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 42 pts · 51d
Aw, are Americans sad that they're being collectively judged and punished as an indistinct collective group?
... first time?
Maybe we should actually get our own house in order?
Just, you know, that?
That first?
No whining, no conditional explanations of layers and degrees of ... nah, just... actually geting our shit together?
Actually taking some accountability?
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 50d
No, we desperately need the whole world to boycott us to save us from the orange chomo-in-chief
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 50d
The rest of the world will do what we can to protect ourselves from your country's government, but it's up to American citizens to do the hard work of fixing their own damn country.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 49d
And I'm telling you we're losing, dont hold your breath for us
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -12 pts · 51d
We're not being collectively judged and punished. Some number of American wine distributors are seeing a decline in their Canadian portfolios.
Why would the rest of us give a shit? That's their problem, not ours.
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 51d
Nah you guys definitely are being judged
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 50d
Everyone's being judged.
I'm still judging you guys for inviting a real actual living 1930s fascist to your Parliament to applaud his work.
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 50d
I mean, it was obviously a mistake but fair to judge even if it's on a completely different scale to half your country eagerly electing a modern day pedophilic fascist a SECOND time who has proceeded to fuck over most of the world and repeatedly threatened to annex my country.
You could have mentioned Canada's treatment of indigenous peoples and the residential schools that went on as late as the 1990s which would have also been a fair thing to judge (I judge it too) but I'm still going to judge the USA harshly for enthusiastically electing a shit starting demented pedo nazi
DeepDown@leminal.space · 9 pts · 51d
It has cascading effects. Boycotts are kind of great like that and also it's why they're so highly propogandized against. "It doesn't work bro, it won't change anything. Why wouldn't you just use google" don't buy it. Boycott more stuff.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 50d
Reading this in Alex Jones voice
DeepDown@leminal.space · 3 pts · 50d
on some small, sad level i probably am the deranged left equivalent of Alex. but Tim Heidecker does it funnier
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 50d
Can't believe Alex exploded in his car like that. And now he's got a clone?
Crazy days.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 50d
I'm not judging every American individually, some did try hard to prevent this mess, but I am judging America collectively for allowing this to happen. I'm sick of being told the vast majority were against Trump. If the VAST majority are against him, he'd have lost the election by a landslide. I don't understand the weird political inertia in America that guarantees every major candidate roughly half the votes no matter what. And fuck those who say that a lot of Americans didn't vote, as though that exonerates them. Choosing not to vote means they didn't give a fuck if fascists took over.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 50d
The US disenfranchises voters with a variety of techniques. One of those techniques is to foster guarantee popular candidates aren't afforded a place on the general election ballot.
If you've got nobody to vote for, I can't blame you for not voting. Demanding people participate in a ritualized farce of democracy when the race is uncontested is pure foolishness.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 50d
Not letting them off the hook that easily.
They could still vote against an obviously horrible candidate.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 50d
It's not your hook. They're dealing with their fascists. You're dealing with yours.
When Canada stops putting members of the Ford family in elected offices and clapping for real literal 1930s Nazis, they can tell the Americans about how to do democracy correctly.
That's not how elections work. The seat doesn't sit vacant because enough people vote "I don't like you" to the winning candidate.
AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 41 pts · 51d
Good.
tal@lemmy.today · -13 pts · 51d
A lot of the wines are out of California. Both the state as a whole and the wine-producing regions in it tend to not be too keen on Trump.
searches
https://wineamerica.org/policy/by-the-numbers/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_Country
https://www.pressdemocrat.com/2024/11/08/an-early-look-at-the-trumpharris-vote-in-sonoma-napa-and-other-bay-area-counties/
nullspace@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 51d
In either of those counties the minority percentages are the wealthy land owners who put huge Trump signs along the fences of their vinyards and orchards. They're also the ones who hire the undocumented workers every season, but that's a whole other discussion.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 50d
Did you miss the part where we Canadians genuinely do not care?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 50d
Who do you think makes up that 33%?
Do you think it's the normal people, or the obscenely wealthy vineyard owners? Take a wild guess.
blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 50d
That's California's problem with the rest of their own country and their POTUS, not Canada's problem.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 50d
IDGAF rein in your boy Yankee scum
AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 51d
I'm well aware. Wasn't my point.
Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 50d
Cry more :)
AppleTea@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 50d
Won't someone think of the poor poor drug dealing capitalists with their measly 40 billion dollar industry!
The valley itself may have split in Harris' favor, but how do you suppose the private owners and the shareholders of the publicly traded wine companies voted? Do you think the people who actually pick and ferment the grapes would be that much better off if Canadians had never left the market? As if any downsizing and job-loss wasn't already in the chamber and waiting for a convenient excuse to do what the ownership class was always gonna do anyway.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 50d
what's your point
radiofreebc@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 51d
Good. Boycotts work. If any of you Americans out there are wondering how you can fight...boycotts work.
My neighbourhood grocery store and liquor store have both decided to stop stocking US goods.
I don't miss anything. As a Canadian, this is more important to me.
kurmudgeon@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 51d
I'm from Maine and took a road trip to Halifax, Nova Scotia recently. I stopped in a licquor store (the LC) and jokingly asked the cashiers where the bourbon was. They got a good chuckle out of that one.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 51d
Rideau Whiskey may not say it's Bourbon on the bottle, but there's bourbon in the bottle. Because of some dumb laws you can't call it bourbon unless it's made a certain region in the US, sort of like champagne. So we actually do have bourbon, even if it's not called that.
rbos@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 51d
Give it a gew years and we can maybe start repealing that legislation. No NAFTA? No more preferred trademarks.
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 50d
It’s kind of like how sparking wine must come from the Champagne region of France to be termed Champagne.
Bourbon is just a naming convention for corn whiskey. I’m just finding out based on your post that Rideau Whiskey is in my neck of the woods, and I will have to try it! BRBN from Okanagan Spirits has been our recent treat - my husband really loves bourbon and this has hit the mark
alsimoneau@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 50d
Heres the legal requirements:
51+% corn
Aged in new, charred oak barrels
Produced in the U.S.
And then the generic proof ones.
So no, not every corn whisky is a Bourbon, although they may taste the same.
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 50d
Well it tastes like bourbon to me, so I don't really what it's called :P
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 50d
Oof, it's $60 now, it was $40 when I bought a couple of bottles of it. It's kinda weird because I can't find it on the LCBO site, I had to order it online.
I like it better than Wild Turkey or Maker's. Not sure if I'd consider it to be high end tho.
Clan Colla (from Ireland tho, not Canada) is really good, better than Booker's (which used to be my favourite) IMO. But that's super hard to get, I happened to pick up a bottle of it at the Dublin airport and now in my circle we consider it to be the best. Which is kind of a problem since it's so hard to get.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 51d
It's fine stuff but if money is no object I'd rather have actual whiskey (with an 'e') anyway.
Jarix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 51d
Too bad you didn't take the opportunity to drink some Legendario, my favourite (so far) Cuban rum. Had my buddy in Nova Scotia bring me some a few months ago when he was coming out. Wish they sold it it my area but sadly they do not. Happily however I have friends
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 27 pts · 51d
Good, that’s the point.
Fuck Gretzky wines in particular.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 50d
part of me wants to go to Brantford and accidentally bump into all the Gretzky wines at the LCBO
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 49d
Do the full tour, beat a spouse and drive a RAM1500 drunk.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 49d
yeah, that's shit.
dermanus@lemmy.ca · 24 pts · 51d
"Put our booze back on your shelves! Also we don't care and we don't need you."
SunshineJogger@feddit.org · 23 pts · 50d
I'm trying to use as few american products as I can. It is nit easy as they have infected everyday life too much.
Not buying Nestlé is much simpler
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 50d
Same, and i live here lmao
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 50d
Nestle is evil but Swiss
giddy@aussie.zone · 19 pts · 50d
Then stop being a shitstain of a country
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 50d
false. the US administration is on record saying they don't need us.
do you doubt dear leader?
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 50d
That's the point, dumbass.
If you want it to stop, talk to the clown in the white house.
This boycott wouldn't be happening if he didn't decide to threaten, insult and attack Canada.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 51d
Who could have foreseen this?
Oh, wait, we all could I'm sorry I have stroke nice doggy
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 50d
And we all foresee things getting worse, yet it's still being allowed to happen
Aarrodri@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 51d
Canada did not cause anything..the usa did.
Lectral@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 50d
California senators don't get to tell me what to buy. Framing it as a "boycott" is just wrong, at least where I live. We have American booze on the shelves. I just don't want to buy American garbage anymore so I'm not doing it.
eureka@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 50d
I avoid most US chains and import foods simply because they're junk, so I know what you mean, but that doesn't negate the boycott movement of people who were regularly buying US products.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025-2026_Canadian_boycott_of_the_United_States
Lectral@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 50d
Boycott - To abstain, either as an individual or a group, from using, buying, or dealing with someone or some organization as an expression of protest.
For me those last words, "as an expression of protest" are important. For me there's no protest and thus no boycott. The upset caused me to try Canadian products. I like them better.
eureka@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 49d
Yes, we know you are not boycotting.
Some other people are boycotting.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 50d
No one should. Let Napa feel the pain for once.
lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 50d
Oh no, the boycott we initiated with the explicit intention of causing DEVASTATING HARM is causing devastating harm. Fie on intended consequences!!!
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 51d
Oh, nice glad it's working! ps fuck you
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 51d
I feel bad for Americans who didn't have much choice in Trump being elected. However that is tempered by the fact that they are not inudating their congressmen and senators to get rid of Trump. They are timidly waiting for the next set of elections hoping that will change things although Trump has already meddled enough that even a landslide vote against him may not change a single thing. Write, email, text and phone your elected officials and tell them to get rid of him.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 50d
One of the things that bother me most is people clinging to the assumption that this will be over after the election. I can't wait til November when either they're proven wrong or I am, either way I guess something will change whether that be for better or for worse
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 50d
Yes feel bad for us by helping us get rid of the chomo-in-chief by boycotting us. Yes we write our Congress and go to protests but they don't care unless it affects their bottom line.
FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 51d
Yeah, I made some phone calls too, but I haven’t gotten a response back yet
mycodesucks@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 51d
platypus_enthusiast@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 50d
I'm a Californian and support the boycott. But the majority of comments in here are misguided.
This is like commenting on an article you haven't read about the First Minister of Scotland saying how negative Brexit is for Scotland, and responding "You shouldn't have voted Brexit then, dumbass!"
No shit. Probably why they didn't overwhelmingly.
Also kinda like how California has consistently, overwhelmingly, voted against Trump, and is one of the most oppositional states in the country against his fascist regime.
guille2a@chachara.club · 10 pts · 49d
Idk how useful is to try to separate regions or groups in a democracy. Did those winery owners votes for Trump? Did they complain a lot when the US menaced Canada with an invasion?
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 49d
It's pretty simple. No complicated economic theory here. If you fuck around...
skankhunt42@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 51d
Huh
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 50d
I won't be buying a hovercraft either, so let them say I'm "causing devastating harm" to the hovercraft industry.
dektep@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 49d
we’re boycotting in Europe too!
ms_lane@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 51d
Australia has far, far better wine, just saying :)
blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 50d
Australian wines are pretty popular in Canada.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 50d
They're pretty good.
Canada also makes a lot of wine ourselves.
Award winning wine, even.
Anonymous_Leaker@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 51d
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 49d
As though acting like assholes wouldn't hurt us. /s
I saw a headline last night about how building new housing is impacted by a labor shortage. I wonder how that happened. The repercussions are beginning to appear in ways that average people notice. It's not gonna be pleasant. Got what you voted for, assholes (USA citizen, can't believe we did this to ourselves again).
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 50d
Trump gained 2.2 billion dollars in wealth since taking office.
Him reading about this news from California is making his week so much brighter. You folks cheering - you should drop by the white house!
Lemmy continues to be so empty headed on certain topics... So eager for those rare wins that you're willing to snatch them from your allies.
It's very American, I must admit.
blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 50d
What is your point? That Canada should accept Californian wines to stick it to Trump?
reksas@sopuli.xyz · -1 pts · 50d
i think the point is y'all should go and do the romanov manover on the pissface
Forester@pawb.social · 5 pts · 50d
Allied intelligence realized that it would be far worse to kill Adolf Hitler and have him replaced with someone competent then allow him to continue fumbling things.
reksas@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 48d
yea, it would require complete overhaul of everything to start fixing things :/
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -15 pts · 51d
Me, a Canada: "By not purchasing American wine, I am making a big difference in their foreign policy"
You, a 1⁰ increase in the average annual temperature: "Adorable"