And the comparison doesn’t even make sense. Like British beans on toast is low effort breakfast food that people make at home. Japanese people rarely make sushi at home. A better comparison would be Natto.
There's a whole other comment thread about that. But food doesn't need spices to be delicious - most relevant to the picture, sushi does not have spices in it.
Not only that, but the British use a hell of a lot of both herbs and spices in traditional cooking. And also there’s the whole mildly racist element in not considering Anglo-Indian cuisine (which is very distinct from traditional Indian) to be British food.
You're right it's just that some are more vibrant and contrasting to others. Like for instance if one is living in a jungle there's just going to be more sources of food than in an area in the arctic or tundra. Like traditional Mongolian cuisine is going to contrast from somewhere tropical like Vietnam or Indonesia. I think that's the big take away here.
Yeah. I don't think the meme is just about "vibrancy" or "contrast though". Miku looks depressed in the last panel, and the food is a negative stereotype.
I guess when I'm saying vibrant I also mean in taste. Like certain areas just have more going on food wise and some areas trend more toward brown food, brown taste. Obviously now we have global society so you can find sushi in the Sahara but what the general population generally eats is definitely contrasting in flavors from one region to another. I can say pretty comfortably that Nigerian food is simply more flavorful than kenyan cuisine in most circumstances.
So some food is more flavourful than others, hence some cuisines will be more flavourful than others. But I don't actually want every dish I eat to be very flavourful, because that in itself becomes boring. So where it becomes problematic is when people pretend that being less flavourful means being bad or boring, and that being on average less flavourful means always less flavourful.
Baked beans, even though they're brown, from a can, and pretty mushy, are packed with flavour: the sauce is made with tomatoes (acid! sugar!), enhanced with vinegar (more acid!) and brown sugar(!) and a load of garlic and onion powder (aromatics!) and pepper (spicy heat!) are dumped in there. Beneath it all is a bit of Worcester (or similar) sauce, which is a fermented fish (salt! umami!) sauce containing more spices. All that in a can of goop that you heat up in the microwave as a student.
Traditional British food actually uses a lot of spices, just not usually chilli. British food is full of coriander seed, cloves, nutmeg, cinnamon, ginger, allspice, aniseed, mace, rosemary, parsley, black pepper, mustard etc. They were originally used because people believed they would preserve meat and extend the shelf life. So recipes from before refrigeration use a lot of it, but also things like Christmas food and desserts use a lot (especially cinnamon, ginger, allspice, nutmeg and cloves). There's a blend of spices sold in British shops specifically for sweet things called mixed spice similar to pumpkin spice in the states.
But even if you take spice to mean only hot capsicim Peppers, the hottest curries (phall) are a British recipe. Tabasco is one of the few non British companies to receive The Royal Warrant of Appointment (permission to use the Royal cost of arms on their products) because the Royal Family love Tabasco so much.
Also Britts drink a lot of ginger. Both alcoholic and non alcoholic ginger beer and ginger wine.
Spectacularly missing the point of why bigotry is bad in the first place.
Telling someone they’re in “bigotry debt” over something that someone they’ve never even met did 200 years ago, and therefore fair game for pig-ignorant abuse, is as close to textbook racism as you can get. You have absolutely zero moral high ground here.
I was about to say this same fact on another comment above, but then I read the wikipedia article again
apparently it isn't like an 'official' national dish, I guess it comes from Foreign Secretary Robin Cook referring to it as "a true british national dish" in a speech
Chicken Tikka Massala is now a true British national dish, not only because it is the most popular, but because it is a perfect illustration of the way Britain absorbs and adapts external influences. Chicken Tikka is an Indian dish. The Massala sauce was added to satisfy the desire of British people to have their meat served in gravy. (full speech) (wikipedia)
I have never heard it referred to as toad in a hole, but fried bread with an egg in the middle is pretty good. Just pan fry with a bit of butter and salt appropriately
Tastes kinda like peanut butter though and it's surprisingly good in sushi rolls where the texture can absorbed by the rice somewhat, especially when there's some other veg involved too.
It's definitely slimy but if I had to pick one "chunky snot" texture food it'd be raw oysters. I like oysters and natto both, but I can see how people with texture issues are turned off.
It's not a very fun meal due to the smell and mess it can make if you're not careful. The taste isn't awful but it's not something I'd go out of my way to eat again.
Accepting in advance the downvotes from people who get fucking weird pavlovian style when they see that word in order to give you a straight and obvious answer to your question.
I mean, that's true, but I'd prefer one of those big ol' mushrooms. Why emulate one thing when you can have a great real thing? Fried potatoes/bubble'n'squeak/hashbrowns I'd go for though
Animals were brutalized to make half of it, the texture of the tomato is weird, and marmelade is too monotonically bitter for what is available to be combined with.
Beans on toast are honestly the best part.
But the real shame is that for an extra 10% of the price it could be so much better by adding spices. A full English isn't depressing because of its materials but because of its potential.
It's fine food, sure, but it is on the low end of dishes that include its ingredients.
(For the record, I'm Dutch, our "traditional" (read: late 19th century puritan) slop involves doing extra work to be actively hostile to flavor, making a full english seem indulgent).
The animals are the best bit. As for spices, I add curry powder to the beans, tarragon and thyme to the mushrooms, basil and black pepper to the tomato, and then dust the entire dish with chilli flakes. Serve it with homemade Carolina reaper sauce. The Scottish version is objectively better than the English one as it includes haggis and tattie scones. You can also serve it with deep fried cigarettes and buckfast tonic wine.
You can do a very nice vegetarian full English. Veggie sausages and black pudding (I make my own black pudding with black beans which works really well); halloumi is a better bacon imo, and the rest is all vegetarian
Look I try to eat vegan and if I find a good replacement I thoroughly enjoy and promote it (there's some extremely good vegan foie), but sadly all the replacements of black pudding or morcilla I've tried have been a disappointment.
Also, blood is usually a byproduct of the meat industry so the animal didn't die for that specific ingredient, which in my logic makes it one of the least "evil" non vegetarian products.
Anyway, please do share your bean based replacement if you want, it's probably delicious.
But I cut a few corners — because it didn’t need to be a sausage as I was eating it at home, I cooked stuff a bit longer to reduce the moisture content, made it into a dough-type thing, and fried it up in rounds.
I don’t disagree — I think offal and blood products are certainly at the better end of things, and if I were to eat meat I’d definitely practice nose-to-tail.
My favourite variant is the Welsh, which comes with cockles.
Not really convinced about adding random spices to the parts, as it’s already plenty salty and quite well balanced. A cafe near me started adding herbs to their mushrooms and that kind of ruined them, as they were really nice just in butter. The chili sauce thing is just depraved though and makes me suspect you may soon start rubbing it on your eyeballs just to feel something.
If its slimy, you're cooking it wrong. Heavily salt it and bake it in the oven to draw the liquid out. It should only smell like dick cheese (kukost) before cooking. Afterwards it should smell and taste like slightly caustic fish and be barely palatable if you have it with mashed potato, bacon bits, and mushy peas and wash it down with strong astringent alcoholic drink. It's pretty rank but by no means the worst Nordic dish. A dubious honour that probably goes to Greenland's kiviak.
Yeah, people like to shit all over British food, but the truth of the matter is that Nordic food is either just as bland as people say British food is, or it's just plain grim.
if by "british food" and "nordic food" you mean the stuff people ate in the winter because it's all they had, then yeah sure it's grim
but a much more accurate summary of all germanic food is "potatoes, meat, and gravy" which is sufficiently enjoyable that it's an international staple at IKEA.
Can't say I've eaten much English beans on toast, but I've recently started putting refried beans on toast (With a Mexican-inspired spice mix in the beans, sometimes salt on top) and it's pretty good.
I've said as much myself. You can get sushi in the Sahara. It's about traditional cuisine. Now in my personal experience, food from its origin tends to be better than its foreign renditions. For example tacos from Oaxaca are likely better than tacos from a Nordic country. Sushi is probably better in Japan than in the Sahara and so on.. not always, but usually.
My British friend actually eats beans on toast unironically and I'm curious if anyone's tried this as well, he says he enjoys it but dislikes the decision making when it comes to actually eating it with bare hands or with a fork and knife
People don’t chat shit about quesadillas, pupusas or burritos, but when the British do beans + starch + tomato + cheese, everyone loses their FUCKING MINDS
I mean, it’s a hell of a lot better for you (especially the brands without added sugar) than something like a grilled cheese, to use a comparison of similarly low effort. It’s a quick and easy meal, not a whole culinary tradition. No one is whipping up a sushi platter in Japan when they get home exhausted from work.
I’m not British and I like beans on toast. Sure it ain’t haut cuisine. But it’s decent low effort breakfast food. And you don’t have to eat it bland. You can add black pepper, tabasco or chili sauce, herbs or whatever. English breakfast is pretty good if you spice it up.
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FishFace@piefed.social · 89 pts · 44d
Fuck that. Every culture has great food if you're willing to get over your preconceptions.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 57 pts · 44d
And the comparison doesn’t even make sense. Like British beans on toast is low effort breakfast food that people make at home. Japanese people rarely make sushi at home. A better comparison would be Natto.
snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 44d
Yeah, beans on toast isn't even that common or widely enjoyed. It's ok but it's not amazing.
Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 42d
Beans on toast is an all day breakfast
nullspace@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 44d
The English stole all that spice to sell it, not put it in their food.
FishFace@piefed.social · 33 pts · 44d
There's a whole other comment thread about that. But food doesn't need spices to be delicious - most relevant to the picture, sushi does not have spices in it.
pirc_lover@feddit.uk · 14 pts · 44d
Not only that, but the British use a hell of a lot of both herbs and spices in traditional cooking. And also there’s the whole mildly racist element in not considering Anglo-Indian cuisine (which is very distinct from traditional Indian) to be British food.
nullspace@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 44d
I'm shitposting here, don't take me seriously.
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 44d
baked beans have like 10 different spices in them. What do you think makes the sauce orange?
Tomato666@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 44d
We stole the spice so we could make them inhale cinnamon powder.
Whilst they were coughing profusely we then stole the opium...
Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d
They didn't trade spice, that was the Dutch, the British traded opium
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 44d
And many have horrible food, war crime level food (Im looking at you haggis).
FishFace@piefed.social · 10 pts · 44d
Every culture has horrible food too, but so what?
Haggis is a bad example though. Bet you've never eaten it.
wieson@feddit.org · 5 pts · 43d
I've had it, it's nice
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 44d
Guilty. Basing my statement on internet vibs.
__Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 44d
I had it for the first time last year. It's actually really good, and not weird.
FishFace@piefed.social · 2 pts · 44d
Hehe! It's actually pretty good. Just - like all good peasant food - don't think about what it's made of :)
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 44d
Natto is an acquired taste, but regular haggis is just grains with meat and gravy. It's baseline good, and can be really good if seasoned well.
Of course you can find horrible versions that are basically just a sack of fat. But you can find bad versions of all food.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 44d
If by meat you mean sheep offal, then yes.
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 44d
Organ meat is meat. And at least lung, heart, and liver are delicious.
Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 42d
Haggis is great
Lorne sausage is so bad they had to fashion it into a novelty shape
The British crime of pork pies should never be forgiven
Kanda@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 43d
Would you like the Norwegian potato or the potato?
FishFace@piefed.social · 3 pts · 43d
?
Kanda@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 43d
You can maybe also have cabbage or a dried cod
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 44d
Yeah fish and chips are excellent. And natto is absolutely horrible
turbowafflz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 44d
I've never been to england but I know curry is a big thing there and curry massively outranks every food in the comic
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 42d
chicken tikka masala was invented in England
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 44d
You should go for a food tour. They have the best and most diverse food I've ever seen.
emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 43d
Curry is South Asian. But for us it's a side dish with rice or roti as the main dish. Having curry by itself is a British thing.
Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 42d
There are four types
Japanese - bland and tasteless
Chinese - spicy
Indian - OMG
Jamaican - MOAB
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 44d
You're right it's just that some are more vibrant and contrasting to others. Like for instance if one is living in a jungle there's just going to be more sources of food than in an area in the arctic or tundra. Like traditional Mongolian cuisine is going to contrast from somewhere tropical like Vietnam or Indonesia. I think that's the big take away here.
FishFace@piefed.social · 1 pts · 44d
Yeah. I don't think the meme is just about "vibrancy" or "contrast though". Miku looks depressed in the last panel, and the food is a negative stereotype.
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 44d
I guess when I'm saying vibrant I also mean in taste. Like certain areas just have more going on food wise and some areas trend more toward brown food, brown taste. Obviously now we have global society so you can find sushi in the Sahara but what the general population generally eats is definitely contrasting in flavors from one region to another. I can say pretty comfortably that Nigerian food is simply more flavorful than kenyan cuisine in most circumstances.
FishFace@piefed.social · 1 pts · 44d
So some food is more flavourful than others, hence some cuisines will be more flavourful than others. But I don't actually want every dish I eat to be very flavourful, because that in itself becomes boring. So where it becomes problematic is when people pretend that being less flavourful means being bad or boring, and that being on average less flavourful means always less flavourful.
Baked beans, even though they're brown, from a can, and pretty mushy, are packed with flavour: the sauce is made with tomatoes (acid! sugar!), enhanced with vinegar (more acid!) and brown sugar(!) and a load of garlic and onion powder (aromatics!) and pepper (spicy heat!) are dumped in there. Beneath it all is a bit of Worcester (or similar) sauce, which is a fermented fish (salt! umami!) sauce containing more spices. All that in a can of goop that you heat up in the microwave as a student.
This is lazy stereotyping.
flamingos@feddit.uk · 80 pts · 44d
Bean on toast isn't even bad. It should be jellied eels or a toad-in-the-hole.
rtxn@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 44d
Brits made those up so the colonies would give them the spices willingly, out of sheer pity.
They did fuck all with the spices, but that's not the point.
Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 44d
Traditional British food actually uses a lot of spices, just not usually chilli. British food is full of coriander seed, cloves, nutmeg, cinnamon, ginger, allspice, aniseed, mace, rosemary, parsley, black pepper, mustard etc. They were originally used because people believed they would preserve meat and extend the shelf life. So recipes from before refrigeration use a lot of it, but also things like Christmas food and desserts use a lot (especially cinnamon, ginger, allspice, nutmeg and cloves). There's a blend of spices sold in British shops specifically for sweet things called mixed spice similar to pumpkin spice in the states.
But even if you take spice to mean only hot capsicim Peppers, the hottest curries (phall) are a British recipe. Tabasco is one of the few non British companies to receive The Royal Warrant of Appointment (permission to use the Royal cost of arms on their products) because the Royal Family love Tabasco so much.
Also Britts drink a lot of ginger. Both alcoholic and non alcoholic ginger beer and ginger wine.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 44d
The British national dish is curry.
Bigotry always goes hand-in-hand with ignorance.
AmyAye@nord.pub · 9 pts · 44d
The Brits are like the OG Big Daddies of spreading bigotry across the world, its ok to give it back, they are severely in bigotry debt.
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 44d
Spectacularly missing the point of why bigotry is bad in the first place.
Telling someone they’re in “bigotry debt” over something that someone they’ve never even met did 200 years ago, and therefore fair game for pig-ignorant abuse, is as close to textbook racism as you can get. You have absolutely zero moral high ground here.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 44d
It’s like how if your people got genocided you get the genocide pass.
FishFace@piefed.social · 0 pts · 44d
No it isn't, bigot.
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 42d
I was about to say this same fact on another comment above, but then I read the wikipedia article again
apparently it isn't like an 'official' national dish, I guess it comes from Foreign Secretary Robin Cook referring to it as "a true british national dish" in a speech
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 44d
This take is spicier than 99.5% of English cooking.
yessikg@fedia.io · 0 pts · 43d
Curry is not British
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 39d
chicken tikka masala was very much invented in britain
yessikg@fedia.io · 1 pts · 39d
Again, I'm talking about curry in general: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry
FishFace@piefed.social · 3 pts · 44d
What spice is in every single British savoury recipe?
Having got three wrong answers in a short space of time, the correct answer is pepper. Now guess where pepper grows...
Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 44d
Black Pepper is also in a few sweet dishes. It goes very nicely with strawberries and cream.
TheFermentalist@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 44d
Salt. In at least 50% of their savoury dishes
FishFace@piefed.social · -1 pts · 44d
Close, but salt is not a spice.
TheFermentalist@reddthat.com · 8 pts · 44d
Are you even British?
FishFace@piefed.social · 0 pts · 44d
The correct answer was pepper.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 44d
Found the frogeater!
rtxn@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 44d
Probably pig blood or boiled yew tree bark but with a posh name.
rbos@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 44d
Bay leaves, maybe?
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 15 pts · 44d
WTF toad in the hole is amazing! What do you even think it is?
Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 44d
It means something different in America.
The British one (sausage baked into Yorkshire pudding) is fantastic.
The American one (a piece of fried bread with an egg in the middle) is pretty sad.
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d
I have never heard it referred to as toad in a hole, but fried bread with an egg in the middle is pretty good. Just pan fry with a bit of butter and salt appropriately
FishFace@piefed.social · 7 pts · 44d
You know toad in the hole doesn't have actual toads in?
flamingos@feddit.uk · -1 pts · 44d
It'd probably be nicer if it did, tbh. I don't know how you make a Yorkshire pudding worse, but they did it.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 44d
it's sausages in yorkshire pudding. do you hate sausages?
FishFace@piefed.social · 6 pts · 44d
well ain't you a contrarian
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 44d
Or stargazey pie
ShotDonkey@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 44d
Nooo. Noooooooo. Nooooooooooooooo. I DID NOT WANT to know this exists. (Vomiting noises...)
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 43d
It's fish with breading. It can't possibly taste much different from something like fish and chips
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 44d
oh yeah everyone hates fish in sauce in pastry. Every American in New England would never eat fish in sauce in pastry
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 44d
Not if it’s staring at them.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 49 pts · 44d
This is what Japanese people eat for breakfast, it’s basically their version of beans on toast called Natto:
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 44d
It has the texture of chunky snot. Most of y'all ain't ready for nattou.
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 43d
Tastes kinda like peanut butter though and it's surprisingly good in sushi rolls where the texture can absorbed by the rice somewhat, especially when there's some other veg involved too.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 43d
It's definitely slimy but if I had to pick one "chunky snot" texture food it'd be raw oysters. I like oysters and natto both, but I can see how people with texture issues are turned off.
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 44d
It's not a very fun meal due to the smell and mess it can make if you're not careful. The taste isn't awful but it's not something I'd go out of my way to eat again.
StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 44d
Some of us enjoy the flavor. There are dozens of us!
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 44d
My first experience was a hand roll bought at a konbini on the platform of a train station. It was windy and blew the strings of natto into my hair.
Tbh though, 10/10, I love natto.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 44d
The texture doesn't bother me too much anymore, but those sticky strings are annoying.
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 44d
interesting way to describe something
Soulg@ani.social · 13 pts · 44d
Some* Japanese people eat it. Even among them it's not universal enjoyed.
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 44d
I personally love it. Add some soy sauce and mustard, stir until foamy, enjoy.
I get that some people won't get over the texture, but people like okra as well so…
OryxAndCake@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 43d
Slimey cooked oat porridges too.
Someplaceunknown@leminal.space · 3 pts · 43d
I had this once In high school, it was rlly nice :3
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 44d
It's the after taste that gets me every time I try Natto.
originaltnavn@lemmy.zip · 47 pts · 44d
British food is thoroughly underrated. Who could say no to even a small part of a full english breakfast?
germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 27 pts · 44d
Found the British sleeper agent
Zyratoxx@fedia.io · 6 pts · 44d
I'd always say no to the black pudding >///<
the rest is quite OK
Fish and Chips are pretty nice (especially with a good sauce tatare)
Tomato666@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 44d
Sauce tartare....
Your clearly not from round here mate!
Zyratoxx@fedia.io · 1 pts · 44d
I mean, if I was British and said something nice about the British cuisine wouldn't that be the Obama awading himself a medal meme?
Just wanted to make the case that it isn't completely hopeless, even if the sauce tatare is a bit of cheating I admit xP
Tomato666@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 43d
More of in the UK we call it tartare sauce 😀
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 44d
Vegans?
Accepting in advance the downvotes from people who get fucking weird pavlovian style when they see that word in order to give you a straight and obvious answer to your question.
silasmariner@programming.dev · 8 pts · 44d
They can have the beans, mushrooms, tomatoes and toast though. Doesn't sound too awful to me.
SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 43d
Also vegan sausages exist
silasmariner@programming.dev · 0 pts · 43d
I mean, that's true, but I'd prefer one of those big ol' mushrooms. Why emulate one thing when you can have a great real thing? Fried potatoes/bubble'n'squeak/hashbrowns I'd go for though
flying_sheep@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 44d
I've seen some weird sad sausages in english breakfast before
Tiresia@slrpnk.net · -3 pts · 44d
Animals were brutalized to make half of it, the texture of the tomato is weird, and marmelade is too monotonically bitter for what is available to be combined with.
Beans on toast are honestly the best part.
But the real shame is that for an extra 10% of the price it could be so much better by adding spices. A full English isn't depressing because of its materials but because of its potential.
It's fine food, sure, but it is on the low end of dishes that include its ingredients.
(For the record, I'm Dutch, our "traditional" (read: late 19th century puritan) slop involves doing extra work to be actively hostile to flavor, making a full english seem indulgent).
Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 44d
The animals are the best bit. As for spices, I add curry powder to the beans, tarragon and thyme to the mushrooms, basil and black pepper to the tomato, and then dust the entire dish with chilli flakes. Serve it with homemade Carolina reaper sauce. The Scottish version is objectively better than the English one as it includes haggis and tattie scones. You can also serve it with deep fried cigarettes and buckfast tonic wine.
pirc_lover@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 44d
You can do a very nice vegetarian full English. Veggie sausages and black pudding (I make my own black pudding with black beans which works really well); halloumi is a better bacon imo, and the rest is all vegetarian
i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 44d
I don't care much for breakfast in general, but veggie sausage is fucking delicious.
Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 44d
You can do that. But I'm Scottish, and vegetarian haggis is just really sad.
pirc_lover@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 44d
Fair enough. You’d be surprised how good/close some of this stuff can be if you make it yourself when it’s stuff like sausages, black pudding, haggis.
The hard ones for me are things like lamb shank — can’t replicate the texture or fat marbling in something like a tagine.
fushuan@piefed.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 44d
Look I try to eat vegan and if I find a good replacement I thoroughly enjoy and promote it (there's some extremely good vegan foie), but sadly all the replacements of black pudding or morcilla I've tried have been a disappointment.
Also, blood is usually a byproduct of the meat industry so the animal didn't die for that specific ingredient, which in my logic makes it one of the least "evil" non vegetarian products.
Anyway, please do share your bean based replacement if you want, it's probably delicious.
pirc_lover@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 43d
I broadly did this one: https://www.veganfoodandliving.com/vegan-recipes/vegan-black-pudding/,
But I cut a few corners — because it didn’t need to be a sausage as I was eating it at home, I cooked stuff a bit longer to reduce the moisture content, made it into a dough-type thing, and fried it up in rounds.
I don’t disagree — I think offal and blood products are certainly at the better end of things, and if I were to eat meat I’d definitely practice nose-to-tail.
Also I’ve made this and it was excellent: https://veganbellyful.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/pate-de-campagne/
I added some redcurrant jelly as it was lacking depth and I felt a bit of sweetness would help, plus I associate it with chicken from childhood.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 44d
My favourite variant is the Welsh, which comes with cockles.
Not really convinced about adding random spices to the parts, as it’s already plenty salty and quite well balanced. A cafe near me started adding herbs to their mushrooms and that kind of ruined them, as they were really nice just in butter. The chili sauce thing is just depraved though and makes me suspect you may soon start rubbing it on your eyeballs just to feel something.
Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 44d
You forget the laver bread
J92@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 44d
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 44d
if they play well they get to tavel to countries with better food.
It's a national encouragement
lime@feddit.nu · 30 pts · 44d
what even is the norwegian one? boiled cabbage and meat? it's like you guys have never heard of lutefisk
kiterios@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 44d
Fårikål
f314@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 44d
Which, to be fair, is boiled cabbage and meat
Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 44d
The five traditional ingredients are: sheep, cabbage, salt, pepper, and fucking water.
ximtor@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 44d
Ahh yes lutefisk, or how l like to call it slimy ghost fish goop :S
lime@feddit.nu · 4 pts · 44d
amnamnam goop
Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 44d
If its slimy, you're cooking it wrong. Heavily salt it and bake it in the oven to draw the liquid out. It should only smell like dick cheese (kukost) before cooking. Afterwards it should smell and taste like slightly caustic fish and be barely palatable if you have it with mashed potato, bacon bits, and mushy peas and wash it down with strong astringent alcoholic drink. It's pretty rank but by no means the worst Nordic dish. A dubious honour that probably goes to Greenland's kiviak.
ximtor@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 44d
You are not selling it to me at all, I'll pass and continue not appreciating norwegian kitchen
Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 44d
Yeah, people like to shit all over British food, but the truth of the matter is that Nordic food is either just as bland as people say British food is, or it's just plain grim.
Norwegian food
Danes eating Swedish food
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 39d
if by "british food" and "nordic food" you mean the stuff people ate in the winter because it's all they had, then yeah sure it's grim
but a much more accurate summary of all germanic food is "potatoes, meat, and gravy" which is sufficiently enjoyable that it's an international staple at IKEA.
Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
The really grim stuff is what they eat now TBH. Fiskepudding, kjøttpudding, fiskeboller, grandiosa etc.
TheFermentalist@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 44d
Sunshine@piefed.ca · 28 pts · 44d
Icelandic people: “Enjoy the rotten shark lass!”
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 44d
French: Enjoy rotten milk with rotten grape juice?
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 17 pts · 44d
Comparing the Nordic rotten fish stuff with cheese and wine is certainly a choice.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 44d
Using consistent language.
If fermented fish is rotten then cheese is rotten milk, bread os rotten dough, wine is rotten grapes, beer is rotten wheat, Jamon is rotten pork...
Frostbeard@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 44d
Bread is heat treated rotten milled grain
N0tTr0xy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 44d
It’s all spoiled stuff
MajesticTechie@feddit.uk · 22 pts · 44d
Beans on toast is amazing. With cheese 🤌
I am a Brit though
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 44d
Can't say I've eaten much English beans on toast, but I've recently started putting refried beans on toast (With a Mexican-inspired spice mix in the beans, sometimes salt on top) and it's pretty good.
Miphera@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 43d
For baked beans on toast, I recommend adding the following to your beans:
Feel free to experiment with the amounts and adding some other stuff, would love to hear your thoughts if you ever give it a try :)
addie@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 44d
Get some Hendo's relish on it as well - meal for for a king.
Digestive_Biscuit@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 44d
Worcester Sauce
svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 44d
Found the Sheffielder.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 44d
Look at Mr. fancy-shmancy here with his cheese!
Quokka@quokk.au · 13 pts · 44d
Beans on toast is delish - Aussie
pseudo@jlai.lu · 8 pts · 44d
I won't complained if you served me cabbage or beans. Both are delicious.
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 44d
Tldr tropical areas have more food sources than not tropical areas and coincidentally the cuisine from those areas is more vibrant.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 39d
except that we've had global shipping for decades now and tacos are literally a standard food in the nordics, lol
Zephyr@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 39d
I've said as much myself. You can get sushi in the Sahara. It's about traditional cuisine. Now in my personal experience, food from its origin tends to be better than its foreign renditions. For example tacos from Oaxaca are likely better than tacos from a Nordic country. Sushi is probably better in Japan than in the Sahara and so on.. not always, but usually.
starchylemming@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 44d
that brazil food drawing looks like a microplastics buffet
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 44d
You're not supposed to eat the skewers.
(Also those are supposed to be wood! (Looks like they're the metal kind, which is okay too))
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 43d
I'm Irish, but I like beans on toast. I don't see what people find weird about it
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 39d
it's poor people food and therefore bad
ghen@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 43d
I mean it's something my 8-year-old would come up with. Doesn't mean it tastes bad, it's just childish
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 43d
As a Japanese person, I fucking LOVED beans on toast when I visited London. Don't listen to the stupid haters.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 43d
I actually had something similar on an English breakfast when I was in Canada, but the beans were sweetened with maple syrup.
recursive_recursion@piefed.ca · 5 pts · 44d
My British friend actually eats beans on toast unironically and I'm curious if anyone's tried this as well, he says he enjoys it but dislikes the decision making when it comes to actually eating it with bare hands or with a fork and knife
pirc_lover@feddit.uk · 14 pts · 44d
People don’t chat shit about quesadillas, pupusas or burritos, but when the British do beans + starch + tomato + cheese, everyone loses their FUCKING MINDS
Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 44d
This is true. I'd eat beans on toast any day over fårikål.
nightlily@leminal.space · 6 pts · 44d
I mean, it’s a hell of a lot better for you (especially the brands without added sugar) than something like a grilled cheese, to use a comparison of similarly low effort. It’s a quick and easy meal, not a whole culinary tradition. No one is whipping up a sushi platter in Japan when they get home exhausted from work.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 44d
I’m not British and I like beans on toast. Sure it ain’t haut cuisine. But it’s decent low effort breakfast food. And you don’t have to eat it bland. You can add black pepper, tabasco or chili sauce, herbs or whatever. English breakfast is pretty good if you spice it up.
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 44d
Would you eat hummus toast? Hummus is made from beans, so it's not that different.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 44d
Thankfully the Philippines and Vietnam are not in the World Cup, because they would win with Balut.
Nautalax@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 43d
Yeah yeah Taco Friday and all but there is great food to be had in Norway, it’s not just the noble potato
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 39d
as always, when people talk about "british" or "scandinavian" food, what they actually mean are basically desperation foods..
It's like calling spam in gelatin "american food".
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 44d
Former Austin, Texas resident here. Breakfast tacos are one of the best "on the go" quick breakfast options in the world. Fight me!
SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 42d
Welp, now we need a fifth panel with an Argentinian Miku 😞
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 43d
British Miku: "You either die a hero, or see yourself become the villain."
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 42d
great video about perceptions of british food (Tor's Cabinet of Curiosities, 48 min)
sobchak@programming.dev · 2 pts · 43d
Never tried it, but beans and wheat together give you all the essential amino acids (like rice and beans), so it makes sense.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 43d
That and pretty much any other meal
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 39d
you don't have to get all the amino acids in one meal, i'm pretty sure you can eat them 2 weeks apart and it'll be perfectly fine.
festnt@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 41d
who put m&ms on the skewers D: