Curious

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unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 149 pts · 66d (11 replies)

Its always those two for any attempt to improve human rights rules

CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 77 pts · 66d (8 replies)

Oh come on now. Russia and China are usually in there as well

ConstructiveVandalism@piefed.zip · 52 pts · 66d (7 replies)

Suspicious username, but you are actually right.

„Why is it always you four…?“

CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 66d (5 replies)

;)

NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 65d (3 replies)

I feel like I shouldn't say this aloud so as to not give them any ideas but why is it that the people woth names like 'yourfriendlyMI5handler' and 'CIAgentinyourwalls' are usually the least glowy accounts but you find someone like 'casualdejekyll' is visible from space?

CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 65d (2 replies)

What you saying I’m not glowy??? What’s your location? Never mind I already know your location! And what you ate for breakfast, and that your password is your great aunt Sheryl’s birthday + the letters “globludoo!@@“

Also, dude, that porn is pretty vanilla, you gotta up your game, branch out a bit,

NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 64d (1 reply)

Jokes on you my password is and will always be •••••••••••••••• (they blocked the @ symbol for completely unknown reasons, probably broke their unencrypted database)

CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 64d

makes note to self “password is a series of dots

stringere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 65d

!quote

!remindme 2 days 26 hours 72 minutes

runners_elbow@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 65d

but you are actually right

Interesting, obviously you know a lot about this topic.

How often do the USA, the Zionist Entity, China and Russia vote together in the UN (especially regarding Human Rights issues)?

Do you have any noteworthy examples?

samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 40 pts · 66d

tempest@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 65d

I mean it's pretty clear at this point that the tail is wagging the dog when it comes to the US and Israel and Israel doesn't want any impediments to their final solution.

stringere@sh.itjust.works · 49 pts · 65d (5 replies)

This is why no country should have veto power. The USA and Israel have held back the UN from fulfilling its promise for...ever, really. China, Russia, and other have pitched in to fuck up good things from time to time but it's usually the big two war god worshipping nations.

When a religion is based on worshipping a god of war, don't be surprised when they're violent; physically, mentally, verbally, politically...

Edit: as pointed out in a reply: Israel has no veto power.

huppakee@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 65d (1 reply)

Israel has no veto power, thank god

stringere@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 65d

Thank you for the correction. Shame on me for being too lazy to look it up.

ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 65d

From my research.

This wasn't a UN vote. It was a committee vote on whether to bring it to the assembly or not. Obviously if the US is against it then there's no reason to have a vote.

Also it wasn't really making food a right for your citizens, it was about using starvation as a war tactic.

DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 64d

Edit: as pointed out in a reply: Israel has no veto power.

Not officially at least.

Ptsf@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 55d
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rumba@lemmy.zip · 43 pts · 66d (8 replies)

AKA Israel and Israel-lite

SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 57 pts · 66d (5 replies)

The plot twist here is that Israel is actually US-lite. Israel is commiting its genocide in an effort to steal native land, the US completed its genocidal land acquisition long ago.

SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 17 pts · 66d (1 reply)

And boy did it pay out.

SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 65d

Violence usually does, for the people commiting the violence. 😥

HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 64d (2 replies)

I argue the opposite in another comment.

The USA is being colonized by Israel. Israel effectively owns the US gov and most US media, while also attempting to takeover the US military.

SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 64d (1 reply)

For the US to be colonized by Israel, the Israelis would need to be moving here and displacing the population.

HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 64d

If we're talking "settler colonialism" like they're doing in Palestine or Russia is doing in Crimea, then yes.

Instead, Israel is simply sending money, "diplomats" and spies to take over the USA. This is exploitation colonialism.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 65d (1 reply)

AmerIsrael®

rumba@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 65d

The owning corporation should come first.

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 34 pts · 65d (4 replies)

is torture bad

was the african slave trade bad

is nazism bad

are Palestinians human beings

nao@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 65d (2 replies)

is nazism bad

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2022/11/09/why-france-and-51-other-countries-voted-against-the-un-resolution-condemning-nazism_6003471_8.html

In the context of the war in Ukraine – and with Russia justifying its invasion, which began on 24 February, by the desire to "denazify" the country – many states that had previously abstained decided to vote against the resolution this year.

YeahToast@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 65d (1 reply)

This one had me confused, because in some states Nazi symbols sends you to jail in Australia, yet they voted against it.

Kirp123@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 63d

That's because the resolution was introduced by Russia to try and justify their war to "de-nazify" Ukraine.

Hypnotoad_@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 65d

"just vote no, you never know what rights-less people we will need to torture down the line with slavery and naziism!"

TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip · 22 pts · 65d (1 reply)

There’s a country that was planted somewhere it didn’t belong, murdered the people already living there, and claimed the land as its own… and then there’s its ally, Israel

NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 65d

ally twin sibling *

AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 20 pts · 66d (2 replies)

It's always those two. But hey, don't you ever dare saying so because you'll always find someone who goes either "But not all americans!!!!" Or "OMG! Antisemitism!!!!!".

Soulg@ani.social · -7 pts · 65d

Don't really care about the downvotes but actually yes BY DEFINITION not all Americans.

Just be honest about being a hateful pos instead of pretending it's somehow just

atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · -10 pts · 66d

Yes, because all 350 million of us some of whom were brought here against their will and some of whom were subjugated upon the arrival of the others have all agreed to this being OK… Fuck off with your fucking bullshit and place the blame where it actually belongs. I will always say not all Americans because I’m sick and fucking tired of being lumped in with the white people who aren’t from here.

NeuralRot@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 65d (3 replies)

That's not really harsh. I knew thus shit since the day I was 5 and watched Israel kill children on TV in 2002/2003

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 65d

Yeah, sadly, none of this is new.

jdr@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 65d
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cockmushroom@reddthat.com · 0 pts · 65d

And look how you turned out

Kaligalis@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 65d

That's what I would have expected.
US: "human rights are a commodity, and you get them if you have the money."
Israel: "The natives aren't humans. And we humans have food, so no declaration needed."
One is the Ferengi nation. The other is a classic Apartheid state.

Zamotic@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 65d (2 replies)

Shocker! The country that can't even agree to give children free lunches in schools voted that food isn't a human right? I'm more and more shameful of my country by the second.

SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 65d (1 reply)

If we just give the children food, what incentive will they have to work in the mines?

ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 65d

On the other hand, children need to be well-nourished if we're going to harvest their organs and stem cells. Hmmmm ...

luciferofastora@feddit.org · 9 pts · 65d
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 64d (1 reply)

Here's a harsh reality people need to understand.

Israel is NOT the US's rabid dog.

Israel owns US politicians.

Israel is taking over US media

Israel is working to forcibly integrate the US's military into its own

Israel has dragged the US into multiple illegal wars of aggression against it's regional opponents

Israel is training ICE, the US gestapo

Israel is selling spyware to the US to spy on Americans.

 

Israel isn't the US's rabid dog.

Israel is COLONIZING the USA

ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 63d

Incorrect but the US collapses if it loses it's colony in the Middle East (no more petro dollar) so it has to do whatever Israel says.

yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 64d

Bro, when Eritrea and fucking Afghanistan declare food a human right, but not fucking America?????

Yeah, America is fucked.

AmyAye@nord.pub · 5 pts · 66d

Look, you can't make profitable things a "right", that just leads to lower profits becsuse pesky regulations around what people "have a right to".

/s

theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 66d

Glad to not see the usual excuses here when this is mentioned saying nonsense about "trying to force us to pay".

reksas@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 65d (2 replies)

should have declared it anyway

jdr@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 65d (1 reply)

USA has a veto 😁

DistrictSIX@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 65d

This was a vote in the General Assembly, where no country has a veto. It's one of the only institutions in the world where one can gauge global sentiments instead of what "the international community" has decided. The veto is in the security council, where the powerful countries that make up "the international community" rule over everyone else.

RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d (1 reply)

I had no idea there were only 4 countries left in the UN. When did that happen?

HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub · 2 pts · 65d

I think we can safely replace all UN members without veto power with muppets and it would not change the results of any vote or decision made by UN. UN would have only 5 members then (only the ones who can veto a decision) and it would require unanimous voting.

khanh@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 64d

I know that this image is used mainly by racists and transphobes, but...

...come on man.

5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org · 1 pts · 51d (3 replies)

Bullshit. The International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights was drafted in 1954, signed in 1966 and came to effect in 1976. Israel ratified it in 1991. It’s true though, that the US only signed it in 1977 but didn’t ratify it..

HeyLow@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 51d (2 replies)
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 49d (1 reply)

does it list the votes somewhere?

cabillaud@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 65d (5 replies)

There are probably some countries that vote for the proposition to look good, knowing the USA will veto.

electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 65d (2 replies)

Oh well that's alright then, innit?

cabillaud@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 65d (1 reply)

No, it saddens me too, what made you believe otherwise?

electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 65d

I took it to mean that the US and Israel were less singularly evil, because some other countries actually, secretly, felt the same way too.

DistrictSIX@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 65d (1 reply)

There's no veto in the General Assembly.

cabillaud@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d

So you could think that the vote does not really matter, nor does it have binding force?

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 66d (5 replies)

I mean, the joke of this is in how the UN tried to declare this while so many of it's members were actively using starvation as a weapon against dissidents at home and abroad.

The Saudis have been trying to starve Yemen into submission for decades, ffs. Same with Ethiopia, using starvation against the Tigrea region. Honduras, the Philippines, Pakistan, Haiti, Egypt, Russia.

Saapas@piefed.zip · 11 pts · 66d (4 replies)

The resolution was actually adopted https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/3951462

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 65d (3 replies)

That's fine. We're still using starvation as a weapon, globally.

Saapas@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 65d (2 replies)

Well, yeah. It was basically a symbolic vote.

albbi@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 65d (1 reply)

Hey UN:

Saapas@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 65d

It's just a place to host discussion, really.