Gather 'round the social media garbage fire children, and let me tell you a tale of the before times...
At the time, having a camera on your phone was a new thing. Phones were for calling/SMS, maybe playing snake if you bought a flagship model. If you wanted good pictures you'd have to spend $200-300 on a digital camera (in 2000 dollars, $400-$600 today) or take a film photograph and have the negatives scanned (drug stores and some retail stores also did film processing).
Very few people had laptops, mostly people who would frequently travel or tech professionals/nerds(same thing, at the time) but most people had a home desktop PC and they would often purchase a separate external camera to use for video chatting on the web; hence, the term: webcam. Since they were not restricted in size by being in a phone, they could use larger sensors and so they typically had a higher quality (but not by much) than phone cameras. Also, image processing was way too heavy of a lift for phone processing hardware, so they often sent the image directly off the sensor while PC webcam software could include basic things like denoising and exposure adjustment.
In order to make images with an effect like Instagram filters, you'd have to use Photoshop and the average person just knew enough to run a web browser and login to myspace. Instead of filters people would use lighting and angles. You've probably heard the term 'myspace angles', this is approximately the era where that term was invented.
All of that being said, Boxxy had a good webcam but she was doing a bit and the overexposure was part of the bit. Evanescence's use is more of an artsy representation of the same mainstream style that Boxxy was parodying.
We also wore an onion on our belt, which was the style at the time.
The one on the left is an album cover and that style was very popular in the 2000s. Especially in cheesy sci-fi shows (looking at you Stargate Atlantis…)
The one on the right though, that’s just what cell phone and cheap digital camera pictures looked like when you posted them on MySpace.
I recognized her, but for the record most cheap digital cameras in the 2000s up to and including the original iPhone were VGA standard resolution which is 640x480. So everything was 480p back then.
Yeah 1.2 megapixel cameras were the norm for a bit. The processing power to stabilize and focus fix all our slight movements people don't think about now with newer phones all came through.
There a couple really promising animes this season - another adoptation of "Ghost in the shell" and "Yani Neko" - anime about obsessed with smoking cat-girl. Both visually tiers above what you would usually see. And recent "frieren beyond journey's end" also quite good. I really hope it's not a "fluke" and a general direction where anime is headed, cause all that slop with cheap 3d about yet another isekaed character_name, kinda started to bother people - no one wants it.
Also, season 3 of "One punch man" with it's moving-png meme kinda hit the nerves of some people in charge, could also affect things.
I think the GitS from the 90s looks like anime from the 90s. I just watch the first 2 episodes, and I have to say I'm not into the style. The animation looks a bit cheap, and the vibe is a bit too hyperactive.
I hope one day we can get an original sequel in a more serious tone like the first anime movie.
High angle, close up. Shows the face, exaggerates the chest, doesn't show much if anything below the cleavage. Also used to get referred to as the "fat girl angle" sometimes.
High angle, close up. Shows the face, exaggerates the chest, doesn't show much if anything below the cleavage. Also used to get referred to as the "fat girl angle" sometimes.
the second is what a webcam would look like with normal lighting. all these popular streamers/youtubers nowadays have production crews.
also, using two examples to make a point, one being an album cover with a particular aesthetic that was popular and has nothing to do with the second image.
Sure, by using the definitely-existent photo settings on your Razr to change the output of your 0.001 megapixel camera (that turns the battery into a cooktop when the camera stays on for more than 3 seconds).
Or by using Photoshop CS3 after paying $800 or downloading [-Photosh0p-].mp3 (2).exe.rar through Limewire.
The woman who took my senior photos did this to them. It took me a while to understand what she was going for but we ended up retaking them ourselves before I ever saw that album art
78 Comments
velma@sh.itjust.works · 73 pts · 39d
Camera and photo quality were lacking then compared to now. Gotta work with what ya got!
I wish I could get back into my old myspace account. I bet there's some treasures there haha
troybot@piefed.social · 21 pts · 39d
I have some bad news for you. MySpace changed ownership several times and the current owners did a botched server migration with no backup.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 39d
I wouldn’t really have expected them to keep all that shit anyway.
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 39d
You know, I’ve never heard it called that. I don’t like it. I always say the “oughts” or “early 2000’s”
troybot@piefed.social · 4 pts · 39d
I think that's because The Guardian is a British news organization so random words have a different meaning. Nought is zero and cookies are biscuits.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
I just ignore that decade like we all should. I spent it dead for tax purposes
Saapas@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 39d
Oh no Justin Timberlake how could you do this
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
It might be on internet archive
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 39d
Gather 'round the social media garbage fire children, and let me tell you a tale of the before times...
At the time, having a camera on your phone was a new thing. Phones were for calling/SMS, maybe playing snake if you bought a flagship model. If you wanted good pictures you'd have to spend $200-300 on a digital camera (in 2000 dollars, $400-$600 today) or take a film photograph and have the negatives scanned (drug stores and some retail stores also did film processing).
Very few people had laptops, mostly people who would frequently travel or tech professionals/nerds(same thing, at the time) but most people had a home desktop PC and they would often purchase a separate external camera to use for video chatting on the web; hence, the term: webcam. Since they were not restricted in size by being in a phone, they could use larger sensors and so they typically had a higher quality (but not by much) than phone cameras. Also, image processing was way too heavy of a lift for phone processing hardware, so they often sent the image directly off the sensor while PC webcam software could include basic things like denoising and exposure adjustment.
In order to make images with an effect like Instagram filters, you'd have to use Photoshop and the average person just knew enough to run a web browser and login to myspace. Instead of filters people would use lighting and angles. You've probably heard the term 'myspace angles', this is approximately the era where that term was invented.
All of that being said, Boxxy had a good webcam but she was doing a bit and the overexposure was part of the bit. Evanescence's use is more of an artsy representation of the same mainstream style that Boxxy was parodying.
We also wore an onion on our belt, which was the style at the time.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d
Deno-is-ing? The fuck kind of tech is that
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 38d
Just some math and pixels
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/what-is-denoising/
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 38d
Your mom's math and pixels
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 37d
Aren't we all 🤪
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
Nuh-uh
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 62 pts · 39d
The one on the left is an album cover and that style was very popular in the 2000s. Especially in cheesy sci-fi shows (looking at you Stargate Atlantis…)
The one on the right though, that’s just what cell phone and cheap digital camera pictures looked like when you posted them on MySpace.
MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk · 39 pts · 39d
I think you're left/right
confusedgood at. The left one is the cover of the Evanescence album Fallen from 2003. The one on the right is Boxxy.I was there Gandalf.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 39d
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 16 pts · 39d
She is not trolling, she is Boxxy you see?
Hazmatastic@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 39d
Man, what happened to that girl? Hope she's doing okay, former internet stardom can be tough
CallMeButtLove@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 38d
I seem to recall she hosted some web show for at least a while, but not as her boxxy persona. She seemed well adjusted.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 38d
Yeah it was called Weird Gross Beautiful under the Discovery umbrella
First here: https://www.youtube.com/user/weirdgrossbeautiful
Then moved to another channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0q-1t9bVnpPVzi-kSHnEzDPvx9f9GKqy
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 38d
She's still around, and looks relatively normal online:
https://x.com/catiewayne
https://www.instagram.com/catieboxxy
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4458188
RamenJunkie@midwest.social · 12 pts · 39d
Whats a bit amusing is that abpit 10 years seperated Evanacence at their peak and Boxxy. These really are not even from the same "era".
BlackVenom@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 39d
That's Boxxy, and you don't use that adjective for Boxxy. That's prob 480p early YouTube.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 39d
I recognized her, but for the record most cheap digital cameras in the 2000s up to and including the original iPhone were VGA standard resolution which is 640x480. So everything was 480p back then.
luxadazy@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 39d
boxxy lives on in my heart
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 39d
Yeah 1.2 megapixel cameras were the norm for a bit. The processing power to stabilize and focus fix all our slight movements people don't think about now with newer phones all came through.
untorquer@quokk.au · 9 pts · 39d
Stabilization, focus 🤣
You held that shit still and lived with infinite DOF
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 8 pts · 39d
In wich hand do you wear your watch?
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 39d
I’m dyslexic… hang on I’ll fix it…
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 6 pts · 39d
No worries, I guessed it was funny mistake, nothing else
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 39d
You wear your watch in your hand?
The files are in the computer.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
Don't forget danger will robinson I forget the name
DeLancre@piefed.social · 51 pts · 39d
gibmiser@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 39d
Lol I saw the same thing
kibiz0r@midwest.social · 10 pts · 39d
“Re… Re-L!”
Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 39d
Gah I miss this era of anime
DeLancre@piefed.social · 5 pts · 39d
There a couple really promising animes this season - another adoptation of "Ghost in the shell" and "Yani Neko" - anime about obsessed with smoking cat-girl. Both visually tiers above what you would usually see. And recent "frieren beyond journey's end" also quite good. I really hope it's not a "fluke" and a general direction where anime is headed, cause all that slop with cheap 3d about yet another isekaed character_name, kinda started to bother people - no one wants it.
Also, season 3 of "One punch man" with it's moving-png meme kinda hit the nerves of some people in charge, could also affect things.
Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 38d
Isn't the new GitS the just a remake of the same plot they've done 3 times already?
DeLancre@piefed.social · 2 pts · 38d
Well, yes, but this one supposedly as close to original source as possible. Art style also looks like anime from 90s
Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 38d
I think the GitS from the 90s looks like anime from the 90s. I just watch the first 2 episodes, and I have to say I'm not into the style. The animation looks a bit cheap, and the vibe is a bit too hyperactive.
I hope one day we can get an original sequel in a more serious tone like the first anime movie.
candyman337@piefed.ca · 48 pts · 39d
These youths don't realize that's just what digital cameras looked like at the time, insta filters didn't exist!
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 32 pts · 39d
This picture (not me) is better than most of the pictures I could get with a camera back then
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 38d
Hey everyone look what lifeinmultiplechoice looked like
negativenull@piefed.world · 43 pts · 39d
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 39d
OHSHITOMG! It's BOXXY!!!!
Noodle07@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 39d
I'M NOT TROOOOOLING ! IM BOXXY !
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 39d
lol, so random!
Duranie@literature.cafe · 38 pts · 39d
I saw Evanescence last week! (With Spiritbox and Nova Twins).
The level of goth in the audience across the generations made me happy 😁.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 29 pts · 39d
Don't forget the MySpace angle.
... duck face was a mistake though, jfc.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 39d
What, like from the side?
Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 39d
High angle, close up. Shows the face, exaggerates the chest, doesn't show much if anything below the cleavage. Also used to get referred to as the "fat girl angle" sometimes.
osanna@lemmy.vg · 2 pts · 38d
Good old Tom.
Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 39d
High angle, close up. Shows the face, exaggerates the chest, doesn't show much if anything below the cleavage. Also used to get referred to as the "fat girl angle" sometimes.
OR3X@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 39d
Boxxy!! I named my new vehicle after her!
Mantzy81@aussie.zone · 15 pts · 39d
The old fag war has resumed?
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 39d
Well, if you can triforce.
I'm not even going to try on lemmy.HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 38d
Doforce or do notforce. There is no triforce.
Lol I'm so original
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 39d
This style still rules imo
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 20 pts · 38d
lordziv@lemmy.nz · 5 pts · 38d
It's sad that this image has become nostalgic for me.
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 39d
Simple and effective
TwinTitans@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 39d
It’s hot.
cravl@slrpnk.net · 18 pts · 39d
This would be contrast, not exposure, no? High exposure would boost the lows too. Very erm ackchyually, I know.
nullspace@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 39d
Kinda makes the face more anime, downplaying features like the nose.
whereitsat@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 39d
the second is what a webcam would look like with normal lighting. all these popular streamers/youtubers nowadays have production crews.
also, using two examples to make a point, one being an album cover with a particular aesthetic that was popular and has nothing to do with the second image.
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 38d
Listen here, on behalf of goths, kindly fuck off
kibiz0r@midwest.social · 13 pts · 39d
Sure, by using the definitely-existent photo settings on your Razr to change the output of your 0.001 megapixel camera (that turns the battery into a cooktop when the camera stays on for more than 3 seconds).
Or by using Photoshop CS3 after paying $800 or downloading
[-Photosh0p-].mp3 (2).exe.rarthrough Limewire.Dojan@pawb.social · 3 pts · 39d
Who downloaded software (other than viruses) through Limewire? It was all (allegedly) The Pirate Bay over here, baby!
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 38d
Viruses are software
Dojan@pawb.social · 2 pts · 38d
I specifically said that it is, yes. But you generally didn’t download viruses on purpose, they were masked as a song.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 39d
The woman who took my senior photos did this to them. It took me a while to understand what she was going for but we ended up retaking them ourselves before I ever saw that album art
scytale@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 39d
That’s still kinda the case now though, right? Filters play with the exposure to hide imperfections.
untorquer@quokk.au · 6 pts · 39d
Yeah but now we start up a diesel turbine generator and drain fresh water reserves to do it. Much more sophisticated!
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 39d
Bro, like today, same back then people were. Don't fucking judge them!
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 37d
The 90s' "manic pixie" thing was real AF. 😅
silver_wings_of_morning@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 39d
Hell yeah
Jhex@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 39d
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 38d
*Gen Y