I don't mind getting remasters. If it's an older game that's a pain in the ass to get running on modern hardware I'd buy a remaster if it means getting modern QoL (like ultrawide support). But what I'd really like are proper remakes, especially of games like New Vegas that were held back by hardware limitations and/or time crunch. There's so much unrealized content in New Vegas that you could remake it and have it feel like a new game.
I'm less concerned about getting new games because those are coming in faster than I can play them.
Agreed fallout 3 and NV are fine the modding community has it. These game companies are just dry on new ideas and mechanics.
Every five to ten years someone makes something new and they all jump on it. Whether that's some crafting/survival thing, some sort of base building or a Battle Royale mode. It's quite pathetic honestly.
Nothing is going to stop you from playing the originals with mods though.
Highly doubt any of the original mods would work with the remastered ones though, if they use a different engine. The Oblivion remaster used Unreal Engine 5 to handle all of the visuals, but kept Gamebryo as the base engine for all of the underlying mechanics. Virtually none of the existing mods for the original Oblivion worked with the remaster, but new ones could be created.
I would expect the same thing to happen with FO3 and FNV remasters.
It's a shame to me because it divides the modding scene, and plenty old but stable mods will never be updated to work with the remaster. But it is what it is. I guess it will be nice for console players as F:NV is practically unplayably broken without mods.
Yeah that's the downside. But also, it's been almost 20 years since the original. Technology has changed a ton. It does suck that a lot of the old mods won't be updated, but it brings in opportunity for new mods.
I remember checking and being incredibly disappointed by the lack of Oblivion mods a while after it released. It really informed me on not purchasing it. I would assume the same will be true for these l. They'll technically support mods, but realistically the people who would be interested in making them aren't interested in making them for the remake. I'd love to be mistaken though.
I hope they don't try and cram the games through Unreal Engine like they did with Oblivion. The Oblivion Remaster looked terrible because of it, particularly with every NPC looking like a skincrawler
I fear that this will exactly the way they do it, after the huge success of Oblivion Remastered and now that they have the groundwork done to connect Unreal 5 frontend with the creation engine backend.
So I should probably buy the original Fallout 3 before they delist it on Steam?
This trend of companies slapping a new coat of paint on old games just to resell it is annoying. Having to rebuy the same game repeatedly is something I was hoping to get away from when I stopped buying consoles.
I still can't properly run Oblivion Remastered, and I have no doubt these remasters will be made in the same way, so I'll just write these off as dead on arrival on my part.
I know fallout New Vegas was and still is a bit of a hot mess, but I have no confidence a remaster will be any better. I mean has anyone played a game from them that was not a hot mess?
37 Comments
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world · 92 pts · 18d
I just want new games
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 30 pts · 18d
Worst of both worlds.
No new games and no morrowind remake.
FippleStone@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 17d
I hope they leave morrowind alone, these remakes are mostly just insulting facsimiles of the original works
DarkMetatron@feddit.org · 4 pts · 17d
We have OpenMW, that is the only Morrowind Remake I need.
dracs@programming.dev · 1 pts · 16d
Skywind (Morrowind recreated in Skyrim engine) is nearing completion. So that should scratch that itch.
WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 16d
Ehh morrowind remake wouldn't have tamriel rebuilt our very own community engine replacement which is ptactically a remaster (openmw) is better
Goodeye8@piefed.social · 16 pts · 17d
I don't mind getting remasters. If it's an older game that's a pain in the ass to get running on modern hardware I'd buy a remaster if it means getting modern QoL (like ultrawide support). But what I'd really like are proper remakes, especially of games like New Vegas that were held back by hardware limitations and/or time crunch. There's so much unrealized content in New Vegas that you could remake it and have it feel like a new game.
I'm less concerned about getting new games because those are coming in faster than I can play them.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 17d
I wouldn't mind some base-building in the remasters. Modders did it already
deft@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 16d
Agreed fallout 3 and NV are fine the modding community has it. These game companies are just dry on new ideas and mechanics.
Every five to ten years someone makes something new and they all jump on it. Whether that's some crafting/survival thing, some sort of base building or a Battle Royale mode. It's quite pathetic honestly.
bajabound@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 17d
Keep beating every nickel out of those dead horses.
Coelacanth@feddit.nu · 15 pts · 18d
Just don't break mods, please.
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 18d
Nothing is going to stop you from playing the originals with mods though.
Highly doubt any of the original mods would work with the remastered ones though, if they use a different engine. The Oblivion remaster used Unreal Engine 5 to handle all of the visuals, but kept Gamebryo as the base engine for all of the underlying mechanics. Virtually none of the existing mods for the original Oblivion worked with the remaster, but new ones could be created.
I would expect the same thing to happen with FO3 and FNV remasters.
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 18d
we need someone working on that fred durst mod as soon as possible. new vegas is unplayable without it
Coelacanth@feddit.nu · 3 pts · 18d
It's a shame to me because it divides the modding scene, and plenty old but stable mods will never be updated to work with the remaster. But it is what it is. I guess it will be nice for console players as F:NV is practically unplayably broken without mods.
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 18d
Yeah that's the downside. But also, it's been almost 20 years since the original. Technology has changed a ton. It does suck that a lot of the old mods won't be updated, but it brings in opportunity for new mods.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 17d
I remember checking and being incredibly disappointed by the lack of Oblivion mods a while after it released. It really informed me on not purchasing it. I would assume the same will be true for these l. They'll technically support mods, but realistically the people who would be interested in making them aren't interested in making them for the remake. I'd love to be mistaken though.
master94ga@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 18d
Those are gonna be remaster like the Oblivion recently released, of course the mods are not gonna work
newthrowaway20@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 17d
They won't replace the old versions. They'll sell you new ones. Just stick to the old version.
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 17d
I hope they don't try and cram the games through Unreal Engine like they did with Oblivion. The Oblivion Remaster looked terrible because of it, particularly with every NPC looking like a skincrawler
DarkMetatron@feddit.org · 2 pts · 17d
I fear that this will exactly the way they do it, after the huge success of Oblivion Remastered and now that they have the groundwork done to connect Unreal 5 frontend with the creation engine backend.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 17d
What a waste of time. They are good games, revisit them anytime you want.
There is nothing that needs to be done.
webp@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 17d
There was a shit ton of cut content in new vegas though. It would be nice to have, but not if bethesda makes it.
jtrek@startrek.website · 9 pts · 17d
I will continue not giving Microsoft money. Fuck them.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 18d
I can't wait to play them in six fucking years
vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 16d
stop fucking
remasteringtrying to sell us the same games over and over again, and just make new ones already!Archimedes@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 16d
You could play starfield
Katana314@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16d
I’ll remind people of this quote next time a games festival comes around, and people shrug at every trailer that isn’t a sequel to a beloved IP.
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 17d
I wish they'd remaster them in the style of Fallout 2, or Wasteland 2 or 3.
Flamekebab@piefed.social · 2 pts · 17d
That'd be amazing.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 17d
So I should probably buy the original Fallout 3 before they delist it on Steam?
This trend of companies slapping a new coat of paint on old games just to resell it is annoying. Having to rebuy the same game repeatedly is something I was hoping to get away from when I stopped buying consoles.
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16d
I still can't properly run Oblivion Remastered, and I have no doubt these remasters will be made in the same way, so I'll just write these off as dead on arrival on my part.
Aeao@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16d
So we’ll see those in like 10 years then?
MoreZombies@quokk.au · 1 pts · 17d
Is Bethesda doing the remaster of NV, or will it be Obsidian? Because maybe no thanks...
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 16d
I know fallout New Vegas was and still is a bit of a hot mess, but I have no confidence a remaster will be any better. I mean has anyone played a game from them that was not a hot mess?
BlackVenom@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 17d
So did that TES game get shit canned then?
undrwater@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16d
Will these effectively be "new games"? In other words, a separate purchase (on Steam, for instance) from the original.
Stiggyman@ani.social · 2 pts · 16d
Absolutely and they will be 70 USD for sure with a 100 USD edition.