Not to mention while peddling population reduction propaganda on the platform of the dude that had so many kids he had to start labeling them with serial numbers and coincidentally wants to colonise another (uninhabitable) planet.
Doesn't appear to be population control propaganda, he's saying Capitalism bad. How he defines Capitalism isn't clear, could be anything from /[non-state controlled manufacturing] to /[the west], or if they're particularly misinformed they could be using it synonymously with loose regulation, corruption, and monopoly.
we humans are a significant contributor to global warming. But, in reality, the CO2 we’re breathing out is part of a natural cycle, by which our bodies convert carbohydrates from CO2-absorbing plants into energy, plus water and CO2. As such, we’re not adding any extra CO2.
I thought fossil fuel evolved from the anaerobic decay of dinosaurs and prehistoric plankton mixing with sediment which put it under intense heat and pressure.
evolved is the wrong term here. Fossil fuels are formed. This is a meaningful distinction because both plants and animals are evolved and had time to adapt to the presence of the other to create a symbiotic relationship.
Fossil fuels formation is a geological process. There is no cycle, and it is a process not dependent on living things to work the process.
Erm, I dont think its only the people but the power structures they created. So there is a fair amount of dismantling that has to happen no matter what.
be mad; read headlines; parrot social media; here's another quote:
In contrast, burning fossil fuels like coal releases CO2 which has been locked up for millions of years, producing a net contribution to global warming.
Even more important context, right at the top of the article:
Asked by: Peter Thatcher, Lancaster
This was a response to a reader-submitted question to a science magazine.
Everyone raging in the comments here has just blindly read the headline and the deliberately-misleading social post attached, and they’ve decided to be mad instead of using even an ounce of critical thinking. Drives me crazy how much people seem to want to be angry.
Thanks. Keep up the dissecting. It is an important tool to lift the "ragefull" propagandistic discussions back to a reasonable exchange of facts and opinions.
We're barely capitalist, it's all scheming and legal privileges and crime at this point. Even capitalism requires an adherence to a ruleset and the rulers we have do not like following any rules.
That's just typical capitalism. The factors of production are privately owned. It's not a free market, but capitalism does naturally consolidate power like this.
You know what, I think smoking Crack is a gold standard for, "the media." It's quite a crack addict thing to ponder, ya know? How much does human breathing contribute to climate change?
I don't think theres a socioeconomic system that allows 9 billion people to live a modern life on earth without climate change. I vote we renew the USAID program that shipped condoms to the middle east and we make college free for women everywhere, that should about fix it.
EDIT: And normalize meat only being an occasional meal instead of twice daily.
Starting from a premise of "There's too many humans", blaming a poorer country for having too many children, then cleaning it up with things palatable to the average NYT reader is exactly how they do it.
The premise is the premise whether you like it or not, pal. You Tankies have been really weird about this issue ever since China, the largest polluter on earth, announced a reversal of their population policies and started promoting growth.
Its a fascist premise; Malthus was wrong when he did the same math 200 years ago. Turns out more people can make better use of resources, and the famine he was attributing to population growth and immorality was simply caused by capitalism.
While the premise from the headline is ridiculous, considering the contribution to CO2 emissions caused by human metabolism is not.
Humans don't have a good efficiency, compared to e.g. a electric motor.
Also, the "fuel" used by humans itself typically already comes with a gigantic CO2 burden.
That's also the reason that biking without electric assistance is not quite as carbon neutral as most people believe.
Putting it this way: The primarily meat-based overconsumption prevalent in many western countries offers many opportunities to significantly reduce CO2.
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SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 53 pts · 13d
It’s really hard to listen to blue checked accounts posting on social media owned by a trillionaire.
kingofras@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 13d
Not to mention while peddling population reduction propaganda on the platform of the dude that had so many kids he had to start labeling them with serial numbers and coincidentally wants to colonise another (uninhabitable) planet.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 5 pts · 13d
Doesn't appear to be population control propaganda, he's saying Capitalism bad. How he defines Capitalism isn't clear, could be anything from /[non-state controlled manufacturing] to /[the west], or if they're particularly misinformed they could be using it synonymously with loose regulation, corruption, and monopoly.
kingofras@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 13d
Not familiar with the cesspool, thought that was a retweet or something
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 13d
He's not peddling it he's refuting it. Did you even reading comprehension skill
kingofras@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 12d
Well, you missed a word and a comma, so perhaps we’re not all perfect. Happy Sunday Ricky
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 12d
it's saturday
Arcka@midwest.social · 1 pts · 12d
I'm certain Ricky hasn't missed them even a little bit.
kingofras@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 12d
He's not missing it he's omitting it. Did you even reading comprehension skill
Arcka@midwest.social · 1 pts · 10d
Reading comprehension: you literally wrote the word "missed" in the comment I replied to. 😅
Since it may have gone over your head, my previous comment was wordplay. You can have a pass if English isn't your first language.
kingofras@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 10d
My last 2 were tongue in chique too my friend.
And in my experience people width English as their fist language are notoriously bad at it.
🙃
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 11d
If people were reasonable, Twitter would have died years ago.
twopi@lemmy.ca · 30 pts · 13d
Nothing. Humans evolved with plants to complete the carbon cycle. Fossil fuels did not evolve, they are burned.
tpyo@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 13d
I quoted an article already but here's another:
which fully supports your statement
jnod4@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 12d
So human breathing is net zero because we're just emitting carbon dioxide trapped in the food we just planted?
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 12d
Unless a significant part of your diet is coal butter, yes.
jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 12d
fossil fuels are natural, the burning of them in the quantities we do is not.
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 2d
I thought fossil fuel evolved from the anaerobic decay of dinosaurs and prehistoric plankton mixing with sediment which put it under intense heat and pressure.
twopi@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1d
evolved is the wrong term here. Fossil fuels are formed. This is a meaningful distinction because both plants and animals are evolved and had time to adapt to the presence of the other to create a symbiotic relationship.
Fossil fuels formation is a geological process. There is no cycle, and it is a process not dependent on living things to work the process.
Quokka@quokk.au · 30 pts · 13d
No, no they have a point. I feel like if we stopped say roughly 3,428 people from breathing that the world would start to heal.
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 13d
Looking at the list by cities no wonder they are losing their shit because of Mamdani.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 11d
Erm, I dont think its only the people but the power structures they created. So there is a fair amount of dismantling that has to happen no matter what.
tpyo@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 13d
To be fair, it is a number I would be curious about because I just want to know. So I looked up the article:
https://www.sciencefocus.com/planet-earth/how-much-does-human-breathing-contribute-to-climate-change
be mad; read headlines; parrot social media; here's another quote:
The article is literally blaming capitalism
MurrayL@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 13d
Even more important context, right at the top of the article:
This was a response to a reader-submitted question to a science magazine.
Everyone raging in the comments here has just blindly read the headline and the deliberately-misleading social post attached, and they’ve decided to be mad instead of using even an ounce of critical thinking. Drives me crazy how much people seem to want to be angry.
Mucki@feddit.org · 5 pts · 12d
Thanks. Keep up the dissecting. It is an important tool to lift the "ragefull" propagandistic discussions back to a reasonable exchange of facts and opinions.
blackberry28@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 13d
Millenials and Gen Z are helping to combat this problem by having fewer kids. And yet, Billionaires complain about that, too. Lol.
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 13d
It’s not a problem
cosmos8188@leminal.space · 2 pts · 13d
Yep, everyone at or post the 'millenial generation' have caught on the avocado toast bullcrap.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 12d
dont you mean no-kids.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 13d
If we got rid of the rich that would mean less people breathing. The solution is obvious.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 1 pts · 13d
Well, the only way to "get rid of the rich" is the widespread disbursement of wealth, so actually no.
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 12d
We're barely capitalist, it's all scheming and legal privileges and crime at this point. Even capitalism requires an adherence to a ruleset and the rulers we have do not like following any rules.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 11d
That's just typical capitalism. The factors of production are privately owned. It's not a free market, but capitalism does naturally consolidate power like this.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 13d
Near 0
matlag@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 12d
They're not desperate. Their system still works and trickle money up.
What they're doing is preparing you to make monthly payments for air breezing plans.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 13d
It's not "capitalism", it's corporations with zero governnental or moral limits.
It's greed, manifest.
jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 12d
morals have no place in a well written legal system
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · 1 pts · 9d
tigermountain@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 13d
If we get rid of human breathing we will eventually get rid of man-made climate change.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 2 pts · 12d
No, no, he's got a point.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 11d
This is easy. Just stop breathing.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 12d
Near 100% I'd say.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 13d
And that shit is called science focus... It hurts.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 0 pts · 12d
Did you read the article?
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 13d
The are trying to make reducing carbon seem unrealistic
deadymouse@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 13d
Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 13d
You know what, I think smoking Crack is a gold standard for, "the media." It's quite a crack addict thing to ponder, ya know? How much does human breathing contribute to climate change?
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 2 pts · 12d
According to the article: it doesn't, CO2 is part of a natural carbon cycle predating industries.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · -3 pts · 12d
There was capitalism in the 17th century. How about blaming the massive consumption of 8 billion people?
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 11d
I was drinking heavily at 21 and was in tip-top physical condition.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · -4 pts · 13d
I don't think theres a socioeconomic system that allows 9 billion people to live a modern life on earth without climate change. I vote we renew the USAID program that shipped condoms to the middle east and we make college free for women everywhere, that should about fix it.
EDIT: And normalize meat only being an occasional meal instead of twice daily.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 0 pts · 13d
You should work for the New York Times lmao.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 1 pts · 13d
Known Tankie bootsucker, licker, tickler Alcholicorn accusing me of Propaganda, how quaint.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · -2 pts · 13d
Wait you weren't doing a bit, imitating a NYT columnist whitewashing fascism?
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 2 pts · 13d
Alright, I'll bite, how is free medical and education (and importantly taxing industry and the wealthy) "whitewashing fascism"?
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · -1 pts · 12d
Starting from a premise of "There's too many humans", blaming a poorer country for having too many children, then cleaning it up with things palatable to the average NYT reader is exactly how they do it.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online · 2 pts · 12d
The premise is the premise whether you like it or not, pal. You Tankies have been really weird about this issue ever since China, the largest polluter on earth, announced a reversal of their population policies and started promoting growth.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · -1 pts · 12d
Its a fascist premise; Malthus was wrong when he did the same math 200 years ago. Turns out more people can make better use of resources, and the famine he was attributing to population growth and immorality was simply caused by capitalism.
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de · -12 pts · 13d
While the premise from the headline is ridiculous, considering the contribution to CO2 emissions caused by human metabolism is not.
Humans don't have a good efficiency, compared to e.g. a electric motor.
Also, the "fuel" used by humans itself typically already comes with a gigantic CO2 burden.
That's also the reason that biking without electric assistance is not quite as carbon neutral as most people believe.
Putting it this way: The primarily meat-based overconsumption prevalent in many western countries offers many opportunities to significantly reduce CO2.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 13d
A single Big Mac can power a gaming PC for 2 hours, a Tesla for ~2.5 miles, or a moderately active human for 6 hours.
It could also take an e bike anywhere from 25-50 miles depending on the rider, terrain, and other factors.
I don't know if I'd say we're "inefficient"...but we also don't carry around 1000lbs of batteries...even in America.