ICE builds round-the-clock hunt to unmask online accounts saying 'naughty' things about it

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-ice-2677653710/

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CubitOom@infosec.pub · 58 pts · 29d (2 replies)

More accurate headline:

[Fascist Paramilitary known for constitutional violations, murders, and abductions called] ICE [in] hunt to unmask online accounts [for critical free speech use]

foggy@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 29d (1 reply)

Careful, that sounds naughty!

CubitOom@infosec.pub · 53 pts · 29d

arotrios@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 29d (4 replies)

So, ICE is trying to dox folks:

The effort has swept up U.S. citizens and activist groups that track ICE activity, with contractors assembling dossiers that can include a poster's name, birth date, employer, Social Security number and vehicle records. To identify anonymous accounts, the Department of Homeland Security has sent hundreds of subpoenas to social media companies, and recently escalated to grand jury subpoenas that are harder to fight.

Meanwhile...

The administration now treats organized doxxing of officers as domestic terrorism, a label it has stretched to cover filming agents at work. ICE spending on surveillance tools and consultants hit $258 million in Trump's first full year back, a 57% jump.

I'd point out the hypocrisy if it weren't so depressingly obvious.

A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 12 pts · 29d

In-group, out-group, rules, etc.

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 29d

They laugh in the faces of those that point out their hypocrisy. They don't give a fuck.

They need to face real consequences. They cannot be shamed.

JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 29d

Republicans are very much "rules are for thee, rights are for me" folk. Like they studied politics under the Trix rabbit.

postmateDumbass@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 28d

ICE payrolls are federal records, just saying.

Snowies@lemmy.zip · 46 pts · 29d (12 replies)

Schutzstaffel was a paramilitary unit under Adolf Hitler started in 1925 for “protection”. It started with 10 men, and by 1944 it was almost a million strong.

Due to the United States constitution and the information age of technology, it would not be possible for Trump to create a new paramilitary force, so instead he simply co-opted and weaponized the most politically radical police force in our country - Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The SS were the enforces of Nazi ideology and “law”. They kidnapped dissidents and foreigners. They facilitated and ran the camps. They are the ones who did the holocaust.

ICE are the enforcers of MAGA ideology and “law”. They kidnap dissidents and foreigners. They facilitate and run the camps. They are the ones doing mass deportation to foreign authoritarian death camps.

Most countries (125 nation states) define mass deportation as a crime against humanity in accordance with the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.

Under international Law genocide is defined mostly as mass murder against a national, ethnic, or religious group… but also just creating life conditions meant to destroy the group physically, and/or forcibly moving children to another “group”.

ICE agents are Trump’s modern day Nazi SS.

I am not drawing parallels here. I am just tracing the lines. It’s the same fucking picture. The only reason there are less dead bodies and missing persons, is because almost everyone can see almost everything as it’s happening now.

Imagine if Hitler was an incompetent moron who had to deal with smart phones and social media.

That’s our President.

A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 12 pts · 28d (1 reply)

Been saying it time and again: the comparison to Germany 1933 is not an exaggeration (anymore).

And I'd say we're much closer to 1939 now.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 28d

We're actually close to 1936, when they started rounding up the first disabled people to send them to special hospitals to get the beat treatment, only to have their families receive a letter that their loved one had passed away.

The clergy were the first to detect the pattern, as each family in their congregation that had been ordered to send their family to the treatment facility got the same letters, and clergy figured out that a euthanasia program was underway.

They spoke out, and Hitler acted shocked at this news, and pledged to end the program, and find out who was responsible, but it was only made more secretive, and of course, evolved into the Holocaust.

We haven't reached that point yet, but we are building the concentration camps required to hold everyone. I suspect that they intend to use ANTIFA Domestic Terrorists as 13th Amendment Prison Slaves, to replace the foreign workers who used to pick crops and such.

CubitOom@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 29d

Saving to quote later

stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 28d

I liken ICE to the SA more than the SS

His SS hasn’t been created yet. It’ll be worse, hard as that is to imagine. The constitution won’t stop him or them creating it either just quietly

partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · -7 pts · 29d (7 replies)
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Snowies@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 29d (2 replies)

I’m sorry you feel that way.

The truth is I don’t use AI for much, I’m just old and have written and read a lot of stuff in my life… but think what you want I guess.

I do talk to it sometimes… but I kind of hate bullshit, so I haven’t really used it for content before.

camoure@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 28d

It’s sad that basic literacy, grammar, punctuation, and spelling is misconstrued for AI these days. I weep for the future.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 28d

Sometimes I use it to clean up graphics that I've done, so they look tighter, but it's extremely frustrating. Half the time it says "Ta-Daa!" and there's nothing there. You tell it there's no image, and it says "You're right, I didn't show the image, upload the original and I'll get it right this time," and it still doesn't display the graphic.

Finally it tells me I used up all my requests until it resets at some future unknown time, but it will keep me company until then.

No thanks, I'm not interested in snuggling with a sexually harrassing AI.

It's like the worst employee I've ever had. If it WAS an employee, I'd fire it every day.

A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 28d (3 replies)

🤣

"This person writes much better than I ever could. Must be AI"

partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 28d
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TrippaSnippa@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 28d

I swear that in 6 months time it'll be "this person writes in complete sentences with correct spelling, must be AI"

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 28d

My son is an excellent writer, and he's in college, and he's terrified that his writing for assignments is going to be attributed to AI. I just tell him you can't worry about that, and just write. If someone makes the accusation, they'll have to prove it.

Besides, he's smart in every other way, too. It won't take long for his profs to recognize that he's too smart to use AI.

Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 28d (3 replies)

I'm an illegal citizen living in the USA and ICE will never find me or my family.

Chinga la migra you shit eating, murdering, cowardly fuckfaces.

cheers_queers@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 28d (1 reply)

you and your family do more for our country than ICE could ever dream. you belong here.

cheers_queers@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 28d

p.s. FUCK ICE. in case that wasnt crystal clear :)

LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 28d

I appreciate you dude, for real. If we were neighbors, I'd fight some gravy seals for you.

sportsjorts@lemmy.zip · 23 pts · 29d

Fuck ICE.

mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 21 pts · 28d (4 replies)

Oh, this reminds me, i have not said anything mean about ICE toady!

If you work for ICE in any capacity, you are a disgusting vile person, and I'm going to light a candle in church later and pray you die in a fire.

There, see you tomorrow for a new episode of saying mean things about ICE

Sunflier@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 28d (3 replies)

Oh, this reminds me, i have not said anything mean about ICE toady!

What's a toady?

mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 28d (2 replies)

oh, sorry, missing a comma. Was supposed to read: "... about ICE, toady!"

Sunflier@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d (1 reply)

Again with the toady. Is that some kind of award like an Emmy?

mavu@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 27d

We should make it one!

northernlights@lemmy.today · 21 pts · 29d

ICE "agents" are nothing but insecure little shits who enjoy the little power they were given. There, hunt me down now. I'm a US citizen btw.

volore@scribe.disroot.org · 20 pts · 29d (7 replies)

I'm so happy my tax dollars are being used to pay for this + every other horrible thing the administration is doing right now, which if I spent time listing, this paragraph turns into a thesis paper. Not healthcare or infrastructure or even just giving the military a needlessly inflated budget, no, let's just blow money on every stupid, cruel, and hateful thing we can; I'm sure these chickens will never come home to roost.

CubitOom@infosec.pub · 8 pts · 29d (6 replies)

While it is "stupid, cruel, and hateful", it is also legal and extremely profitable for the private companies the regime awards contracts to.

volore@scribe.disroot.org · 8 pts · 29d (5 replies)

yes, hence why I started with "I'm so happy my tax dollars are being used to pay for this". Even after the administration is put in prison for their crimes (however long that may take -- years, definitely, decades, possibly), there will remain countless others who got to enrich themselves off of our dime for utterly stupid shit like this; and will get away with it precisely because their actions are legal, even if they directly enable the regime to better perform illegal repression of free speech.

YIPPEEEEE, capitalism!

CubitOom@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 29d

I agree, I'm just making sure that the focus on profit isn't lost.

I am currently participating in this open course called Hitler and Stalin Today and it has been really enlightening to see how much of world history has been shaped by the commoditization of humans for profit.

LePoisson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d (2 replies)

Even after the administration is put in prison for their crimes (however long that may take -- years, definitely, decades, possibly),

That's a pretty optimistic take. You know nothing is gonna happen to these fucks. I do know I'm popping a bottle of champagne when Trump dies. I bet there will literally be spontaneous parties after he dies to celebrate it.

volore@scribe.disroot.org · 1 pts · 27d (1 reply)

I've already made my peace with the idea that Trump will never see justice and will die a free man, but there are plenty of younger men in his administration who have many years ahead of them, and the crimes they've committed and will commit have consequences that reach far beyond 2028, whether or not they willingly leave office at that time. Sooner or later, someone answers for this horseshit, and I and many others are and will be harassing our representatives to make sure that happens -- me, personally, I'd really like to see Russell Vought and Stephen Miller spend their final years in a cell.

I just have to keep telling myself that in mid-1939, before the war but well after much repression, probably nobody in Germany thought the Nazis would ever be punished for what they were doing to Jewish people.

I also have a nice bottle of wine saved for Trump's death, but I was very tempted to open it if we got McConnell and Graham in the same week. Alas, it was not to be.

LePoisson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 27d

Let me preface this with the caveat that I desperately want the ghouls to be lined up and shot. That's not hyperbolic I truly believe they deserve it.

Having said that, I'm just thinking about American history in general. Plenty of people, including former presidents, who have done unconscionable things to others and were never punished or straight up celebrated.

The president that perpetrated the Trail of Tears, a big defining moment of our genocide against the Native Americans who were here before whitey showed up, is literally on our $20 bill. The dude that ignored the Supreme Court order and proceeded to round up tens of thousands of humans that died due to his actions is memorialized on our currency.

I want a currency redesign for our country that doesn't celebrate any presidents at all, let's put other cooler stuff on it than dead white guys. (Yes I know technically that's not all our currency)

It's not surprising Trump hung Jackson's portrait up in the oval office. He really loves that asshole.

This is just one of the many times I've said something and really want to be wrong. Sadly, it seems that most of the time I want to be wrong I'm right even if my prediction is suckville.

A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 28d

I was once in pre-Putin Russia and the police took my car away. My hosts had some influence and talked to the chief, who turned red like a tomato, and I didn't have to pay the fine. Which would've been something like 50 rubles. We then took our piece of paper and tried the same with the company that was running the impound lot. They were not touched at all by the influence and we had to pay to get the car out - 400 rubles.

I learned something that day. About capitalism, I guess.

Danarchy@lemmy.nz · 19 pts · 29d (2 replies)

ICE likes to suck each others dicks and butts and they can suck my butt too so go ahead and try to find me outside of your butt sucking jurisdiction you clown bitches (apologies to clowns — an actual, honest profession)

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 28d (1 reply)

My Grandfather and my Uncle were both clowns for the Shriners. My grandfather was one of the sweetest people anyone ever met, newscasters came to his funeral because they'd done stories on him visiting kids in the hospital.

My Uncle was a dickhead, and a typical dumb meathead MAGA. He died alone, with no family around him at all. The only reason we found out was because my wife had a weird feeling in the middle of the night, Googled him, and found that he had died a few days before.

So I'm 50/50 on clowns.

Danarchy@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 27d

Thank you for these clown data and sorry abt your dickhead uncle. One of my fun uncles got Fox News brain poison and that ruined him

kyTdKZx9PtDQ9e56u06@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 28d (2 replies)

Ice are a bunch of fart sucking shmegma licking cunt belching motherless clown bitches. May they never have a peaceful nights sleep.

this_1_is_mine@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 28d (1 reply)

May their buttholes be in constant threat of intrusion

prenatal_confusion@feddit.org · 1 pts · 28d

Uh, yes Plesse. Illthave what he's having!

Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 29d (1 reply)

I guess we figured out who the tesseract dev was working with

WYLD_STALLYNS@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 29d

Was? He’s still here under alts, like Kirk@startrek.website

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 29d

Your tax dollars at work.

Billions wasted on a stupid wall/vanity project for Donvict. Billions wasted on attacking Iran. Billions more spent by all of us to cover the increased cost of everything thanks to that war on Iran. And billions more to the masked thugs kidnapping and disappearing people off of our streets...

Meanwhile, your food, if you can afford it, is not safe. Your medical care is being ripped away. Your job, if you have it, is at-risk from oligarchs trying to replace everyone with AI....

sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 29d

Every employee of ICE is a child molester.

Corvidae@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 29d (2 replies)

Interesting. We have the first amendment which protects our speech (as long as we don't advocate violence), so if we're critical of ICE killing Pretti and Good, for example, then the government pays contractors to censor or otherwise harass us?

All hail King Trump?

DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 29d (1 reply)

We have the first amendment

Lol. Stupid Americans voted to give total power to a party that doesn't give a FUUUUUUUUCK about the Constitution.

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 29d

Yeah, but somethingsomethingbothsides and gEnOcIdEjOe !!!11 (So-called "centrists" and so-called "leftists", LOL)

Also, from the RWAs that kneel before Donvict - "well, Kamala was gonna make everyone TRANS!!111"

I so hate this timeline.

BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 28d (5 replies)

ICE y'all don't need a tool to read this: I think you're a bunch of fucking war criminal traitors and I can't wait for you dumbfucks to find out what THAT penalty looks like.

Sunflier@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 28d (4 replies)

I think you’re a bunch of fucking war criminal traitors

War crimes? No. Crimes against humanity? Yes.

Difference? While both are against the Rome Statute, they are in fact under different articles. Why? Some things are crimes that only apply when done by soldiers in war, while others are crimes against all of humanity when done irrespective of whether any party was a soldier or not.

BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 28d (3 replies)

Thanks for not actually contributing a goddamn thing to the conversation.

stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 0 pts · 28d

Thanks for almost making me cover the table in coffee

Sunflier@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 28d (1 reply)

Words have meaning, and it is important to be accurate in what is said, especially in the legal context. It'd be a shame if the scope of who is held accountable for ICE is limited because of a technicality

BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 28d

Oh you're one of those people.

"Can't use hyperbole or anything other than exacting language or I will have an AKSHULLY moment" kinda person. lol please express my condolences to those who have to live with you.

Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 15 pts · 28d

Fuck ice

watson387@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 29d

Fuck ICE. Y'all Qaeda motherfuckers...

tired_n_bored@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 28d

Weak pathetic guys. Fuck you bitches

switcheroo@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 29d

Thin skinned little bitches.

To the one.

Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 28d (1 reply)

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 29d (1 reply)

I want to see the assholes responsible for this dragged into Congress to get asked some questions, in front of cameras.

For starters. Get these motherfuckers on record, and get everything ready for action if/when the Democrats get any power again. Conservatives and Republicans need to have examples set, apparently, because they haven't had to face any consequences since at least Nixon. They got away with Iran/Contra, too, essentially. With W's war crimes. And now both terms of Donvict.

Some motherfuckers need to start going away for long prison sentences. And the Democrats should IGNORE any pardons from this president and get caught trying to imprison these motherfuckers anyway.

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 28d

A-fucking-men to all of it!

I want to address the pardons, which nobody else talks about. We don't have to accept those pardons, no matter what the Constitution says. He issued those pardons to directly subvert and obstruct justice, using the promise of pardons to convince people to commit crime. That is not a use that the Founding Fathers dreamed of.

Re-arrest ALL of them, charge them with new crimes if they have to, and put them all back in prison. If they want, they can follow their beloved ICE recommendations, and "self-deport" themselves back to prison to fill out their original terms.

Those who don't show up, will have their terms doubled, once they are caught, and there will be no statute of limitations on Pardon Jumpers. We will hound Jan 6 Traitors until the day they die.

And pardons that were paid for, are not pardons, they're crimes, and anyone who paid or facilitated a bribe should get a very long, harsh sentence.

And when they are caught, the justice system will grind very slowly, making sure they get every bit of the Constitutional rights maintained, for as long as it takes. They may sit in prison for 4 or 5 years, just to get into court to argue about the pardon for their 7 month sentence. Or they can just eat their original sentence, and STFU.

pirate2377@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 28d

Yet more evidence that ICE is just for MAGA Republicans to pave the way for an Americanized KGB. They are nazi murderers and if they come and kill me for saying that, then it'll be yet another PR disaster like their handling of Alex Pretti. That's if they can track me down in the first place

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe · 8 pts · 29d

Fucking losers.

Bakkoda@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 29d (2 replies)

Get the fuck off those platforms

It's not about time, it's long past time.

CubitOom@infosec.pub · 10 pts · 29d (1 reply)

While I agree, I don't think the Fediverse will save us from the erosion of our rights.

quick_snail@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 28d

Why not? There's instances outside their jurisdiction run by groups who are not incorporated and don't have bank accounts that can be frozen

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 27d (1 reply)

Naughty things like acknowledging that they're the exact sort of governmental overreach and violence our declaration of independence had a problem with? Stuff like acknowledging that they're tyrannical morons engaging in violence against the common people? Or like acknowledging that they all belong in prison?

quarkquasar@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 27d
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rekabis@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 28d (1 reply)

ICE said the work targets genuine dangers, pointing to what DHS calls an 8,000% rise in death threats against agents since President Donald Trump took office.

Fashies get bashies!!

LodeMike@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 28d

Donald trump probably gets less death threats than obama

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 28d

Ah yes the efficient small government I was promised by republicans.

FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 29d

MELT THE ICE 🧊 🔥

LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 28d

Lmao come get me fellas

thesohoriots@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 29d

Naughty? Like how they’re doo-doo feces?

wizbiz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 27d

Fuck ice. It is a criminal and terrorist organization and should not exist

BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 23d

This is what they want an increased budget for - better surveillance of the general population. Just say no to ICE.

lolo@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 27d

Things like every ICE and BP “agent” should be executed in the street, the fucking criminals. That kind of stuff?

Leather@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 28d

When the modem nuremberg trias happen, I hope ICE and their defenders are shown the kindness they have shown to the least of us.