They really treat Canada like a wayward US state. Good on the Canadian government to tell the US to fuck off.
No wonder Canada told the US to stick it where the sun don't shine
They really treat Canada like a wayward US state. Good on the Canadian government to tell the US to fuck off.
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GreenBeard@lemmy.ca · 70 pts · 23d
As a Canadian, and Albertan, I proudly agree the US government can fuck all the way off.
KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz · 63 pts · 23d
Dude, I'm an American and I'd have told the US to fuck off. That list is insane.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 21d
Item #1 was enough to break any deal on its own, but then the list just kept going.
AfterlifeAdventures@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 23d
Shit goes down majority of Americans will side and fight with you for you, I'd rather they just died thos administration, but we will stand with ya and fight these cunts as they try to start war if it does happen. All pedophiles must fuckin die especially spoiled orange fucks ue gonna be a piñata
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 23d
So if that’s the case why aren’t Americans gathering and fighting to get rid of it before an attempt on Canada happens?
I actually don’t know if there’d be a whole lot of resistance from Americans to be honest, I think it’ll be a heap of verbal platitude but not much else.
I hope we don’t see because I don’t count on Americans doing much. I hate to say it but yeah.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 22d
If you're talking about mass protests those have been happening. Looks like we're rapidly moving towards a progressive movement across the country too.
If you're talking about more drastic options like a general strike you are absolutely right.
If you expect a violent insurrection that's just plain unrealistic. People generally don't want to die in a war. As long as people can still scrape by, affording a place to live and food to eat, there will not be a rebellion. And don't get me wrong everything is generally unaffordable, but the majority is still keeping just above this point.
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 22d
No, I’m answering the statement that Americans will fight alongside Canadians if they get invaded, which I don’t think they will. As for a violent insurrection like the one they told us they’d do if it happened because they have a 2nd Amendment for that purpose, no, I always knew its main use was to tell other countries that they were less free. So no I don’t think an insurrection is the answer, though it’s one they often put on other countries. Others that are doing far worse finding food and jobs, but again we have to consider those.
Some of us have been listening to this since 2010. First off they were quite nasty to us about it, then we were expected to understand, now they’re all with us and some want asylum from a vote result. There’s a few passes been handed out and an expectation of understanding that doesn’t get offered by them to others.
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca · -2 pts · 22d
I haven't heard that all politicians at every level are getting inudated daily with letters, emails, phone calls and petitions telling them to get off their asses and deal with Trump. Americans seem to be overly content to let Trump burn it all down until November and then somehow think things might just go back to normal. American people have already surrendered to Trump and the billionaires. The rest of the world can see that.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22d
They are but: a.) they don't care. b.) you're not going to hear about it on your media anyhow.
The readers of the Dworkin Report have sent over 825k letters since 2024 and that's just one newsletter.
AfterlifeAdventures@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22d
I can't get involved until its actually started, there's things involved that I can't explain but I just know
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 22d
Hahaha righto
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 22d
But you Albertans love Trump and pine to be the 51st state. All of Trump's ass kissers are elected in Alberta.
GreenBeard@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 22d
"You Albertans" is a very broad brush. The current government only won by a very narrow margin (54-45). Our cities are largely progressive, and even our rural areas are only about 2/3rds conservative. In fact, among home-grown Albertans the UCP would already have been tossed out if we hadn't been collecting the people who washed out of polite society in other provinces for decades now. On average, we're less conservative than rural Ontario, but no one is ready for that conversation.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 21d
At the 2024 Federal election, which was 100% about Canadian sovereignty, You Albertans voted 92% of your ridings to PC. Here's the electoral map of your progressive views:
Even after the PC leader lost his own seat, and after the PC party had to resort to a US citizen as leader, You Albertans welcomed Pierre Poilievre back to Parliament.
With one exception, Alberta has voted provincial PC since 1971. JFC..you have an Separation referendumb just weeks away.
GreenBeard@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 21d
There are almost as many people in those little orange dots as there are in all of that empty blue space. Land doesn't vote, people do. The polls are still are showing less than 25% support for separation and they are pulling every dirty trick in the book to get it that high. In the 2023 provincial election it was 928,900 UCP to 777,404 NDP. I'm not saying there isn't a problem, or that we're not outnumbered, but it's not by a big margin. The waves of attempted recall elections in the first half of 2026 should tell you that people are not happy, and the fact the province keeps moving the goal posts and deciding to void its own rules just to hang on to power should tell you that it's not a small group of dissidents. We'd have an NDP Premier in this province if 4 ridings shifted and 100k people in the urban metros changed their minds. (or, like half a Toronto suburb moved to Calgary for a year).
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 23d
...he hates that Canada speaks French?
Actually no, I'm not even surprised. The fucker barely speaks English.
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 23d
I keep reading comments like this and getting more convinced La Riposte is going to work.
Just launched the website today, it's not going to sell anything, ask for anything. Just encourage people to learn French across Canada as a national effort standing up to MAGA. And amplify via the media/word of mouth. Graffiti. Everything.
Nothing but upsides, costs pretty much nothing to be involved, I think the national temperature is hot enough right now.
I keep getting comments removed with the link and the site is pretty bare but la dash riposte dot ca will be the site. But it's going to be a crowdsourced thing I'm hoping.
Arghblarg@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 23d
Growing up in western Canada, I found myself annoyed in the past by Quebec's separation rattling, and didn't do very well at French class in our immersion curriculum in elementary and Jr. high ... but at this point I'd be open to trying to re-learn some French just to spite the US administration.
Hell, we should all try to learn some Greenlandic in solidarity with them!
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 22d
Trump peut fuck le off.
SirMaple__@lemmy.ca · 32 pts · 23d
nkat2112@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 23d
These are beautiful images! Thank you for sharing them.
As an aside, President Pedophile and Rapist Donald J. Trump is mentioned in the Epstein files ~38,000 times.
stumu415@lemmy.zip · 30 pts · 23d
The US really treats Canada like a wayward state. Good on the Canadian government to tell the US to fuck off.
https://monapaulsen.substack.com/p/canada-us-trade-talks-hit-a-road?r=k6me3
Mirshe@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 22d
Nah, that list isn't what you give a state.
It's the list of demands you'd give a colony.
cybervseas@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 23d
If accurate that's terrible. How do you even start negotiating from that point…
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 23d
You cant. He makes the most absurd demands knowing that no reasonable country could agree, and goes to his idiotic base and says "see!" And gladly gobble down his lies
Saledovil@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 22d
You don't. You pretend the demands are a joke, and ask for the real demands. If they persist, you walk out of the negotiation.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 6 pts · 23d
You go point by point and say you could drop the demand but they have to give something in return, what are the real things you want. So they end up with giving a lot more by even agreeing to start from this list. It's not negotiating in good faith but just bullying someone in agreeing to unfavorable terms.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 23d
Or, in other words, complete surrender of Canada.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 22d
They want to force Canada to use the same farm chemicals that cause US brains to rot. No, thank you.
ryper@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 22d
Canada passed a law allowing cabinet to authorize use of banned pesticides a couple months ago, so it's not like we're doing great in that area anyway.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 21d
Carney is a cunt. He's been dropping all kinds of protections in place for Canadians hoping that this would kiss Trump's ass hard enough for a deal. He got fucked.
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 17 pts · 23d
Wow I hope this is fake
ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 23d
I know a lot of those were reasons given at the announcement or shortly after. Given statements made in the past, id believe the rest of them
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 5 pts · 22d
I'm now seeing this is the case. Earlier I read the Liberals had not yet officially released specifics, but you are correct that it lines up with a lot of what was coming out as specific concerns from various sources and generally confirmed as accurate.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-u-s-trade-talks-collapsed-over-disputed-deal-terms-carneys-envoy-says
andrewta@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 23d
I’m hoping that this is fake. And it’s too late for me to look it up right now anyways. I’m tired. I gotta get sleep.
AfterlifeAdventures@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 23d
It's not he's (trump king of pedophiles) is a cancer on society and needs to be put down
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 3 pts · 22d
As much as I wish it was simple as one bad man it's def not. There are a lot of people who support this agenda.
AfterlifeAdventures@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22d
Start with their biggest jackass as an example and they'll get in line, not me, hell ai doesn't know my next move
Smoogs@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 23d
holy fuck i know trump apparently doesnt do drugs but what the fuck is that choad smokin
EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 23d
Bubba's pole... allegedly
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 23d
Yea, no.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 22d
Ah, a demand for vassalage.
Makes sense.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 23d
If this list is accurate, that is fucking insane.
Out of all of these conditions, only 3, 4 and 5 has some sense of not being completely insane
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 23d
3 is still restricting Canada so it is still insane.
4 and 5 are trying to increase US exports, therefore not strange for trade deals.
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 1 pts · 22d
AfterlifeAdventures@lemmy.world · -20 pts · 23d
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 23d
No one has ever shut up at your command before, and they won't start listening to you today. That's sad! Life is not fair, womp womp :(
AfterlifeAdventures@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 22d
stoy@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 23d
Wow!
Calm down, I never said that they were reasonable, only not fucking detached from reality, those are initial conditions that I could see as the initial conditions in a negotiation that would be negotiated down to something resonable.
AfterlifeAdventures@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 23d
stoy@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 23d
I get that you are angry, but you really need to read what people are actually posting and clarify weather they actually hold Nazi opinions or not, before calling them Nazis.
Otherwise you will contribute to diminishing the impact of the word.
ramble81@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 22d
Dammit, I missed something funny didn’t I? Mods nuked it.
stoy@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 22d
Just an unhinged personal attack
AfterlifeAdventures@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 22d
Krzd@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 22d
If that's what you're seeing you might wanna go see a doctor.
AfterlifeAdventures@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 22d
AppleTea@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 23d
The government asking you to dismantle dairy supply management:
atomicorange@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 22d
So we’re reinventing colonialism? Cool, cool cool cool.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 22d
trump b gone soon but so will Canadian goodwill towards our old southern friend.
Madblood@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 22d
Not just Canadian good will. Trump et. al. trashed our (America's) reputation and credibility worldwide during his first administration. Under President Biden, we spent 4 years rebuilding relationships and trust with our allies, at least to the extent they could be rebuilt after the shitshow that was 2016-2020. Now he's trashed it again, worse than before, and this time I fear the damage is permanent. Even if we manage to elect a sane president in 2028, the world is finding out that they can't depend on us not to elect someone who will undo everything on a whim. Eventually they're going to get tired of us going off our meds every few years and make a clean break.
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 22d
After watching what’s gone on since 2010 has changed my view of them forever
Several things have been demonstrated to me, selfishness, laziness, lack of compassion, an expectation of understanding they don’t give others…a few things
I used to have a fairly high respect for them and wanted to travel there. All gone now and it’s not likely to return because I’ve seen the hand now.
I want Australia to scrap our treaties with them but our leaders are too spineless.
boywar3@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 21d
If Australia's leaders try to scrap deals with the US, the CIA will just remove said leaders like they did last time
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 21d
Yeah that wouldn’t surprise me if they tried
Sooner or later we need to stand up to them though and the sooner the better
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 22d
You are right to worry. One Trump administration could be overlooked as a mistake on American corporations behalf (lets admit that American voters really don't count). But a second one, that is inexcusable. The US has had a very lopsided deal in its favour with all Western countries since the end of WW2. The Americans have effectively killed that. That agreement doesn't suddenly come back with a new adminstration. Especially since every other country knows it can be facing a different Trump in 4 years.
AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 23d
Fuck the US.
m0darn@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 22d
I'm confused about the last one. They want the Canadian government to charge sales tax on smaller transaction for cross border shoppers? Doesn't that cause less cross border shopping/tourism?
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 22d
They don't want people buying products cheaper in Canada then bringing them home.
tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 22d
No idea if those are real but a few of them (liquor, language laws in Quebec) are under provincial jurisdiction. Any deal done by the federal government on those points wouldn't have any value.
The US knows how provinces work. So my guess is that their plan from the start was to scrap the deal.
pachrist@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22d
I've played HoI4. This is puppeting Canada. Are we taking their navy as well?
skozzii@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 22d
Drug price protection would mean no generic drugs anymore so Canadians medication would skyrocket 400%+ atleast. The drug companies would raise prices as high as they could. This is all nuts.