Yes it’s real. Apparently it’s not selling well because the venn diagram of “Mr Beast fans” and “people who read” are two circles that just barely touch.
they do. The "kids dont read anymore" come from i don't know where.
they read books, book tiktok is a thing. Youtuber as well. They read journal articles online or otherwise, they text each other so... they read same for social media.
Audiobook is on the rise. In my book it count as reading a book. You are aware of each line of content of the book.
The most "kids don't read anymore" come from politicians that attribute the closure of library to young people instead of amazon, policies that does not protect or recognize librarians, etc.
The article i read about this yesterday said that kids read a huge amount of very short texts, but hate reading more than like 10-20 pages of text at a time.
Comic books are doing really well at scholastic because the text is broken up by images throughout.
Well there is some of my own experience, some friends that are librarians, the wonderfull book "sois jeune et tais toi, une réponses a ceux qui critiquent la jeunesse" in english "be young and shut up! an answer to thoses that mock the youngs" from Salomé Saquee that goes above and beyond explaining that most stereotypes abount youngs are just that, stereotypes. https://world.edu/yes-young-people-are-still-reading-but-differently/
But i believe that reading is important, i believe you do too.
Do you have other sources? we could have a complementary vision of the world ;) Or both learn something ;p
Should have released a Mr. Beast audiobook then instead of a bookbook; narrated by da beast himself, now streaming on TikTok in 490 parts. That would have sold much better. Market research.
People somehow don't realize how MrBeast got his start. He performed superhuman feats of boredom and endurance to get his channel certified. I seem to recall he counted to a million in another stream. I was really confused when the popular media started talking about someone I knew as a sideshow freak in a similar genre to LA Beast. The guy isn't dealing with the normal human configuration of brain goo. His relationship with human suffering is fucking WEIRD. It's like he's lost the ability to comprehend what it is, and he just walks around faking it. It kinda scares me that he is so powerful now. Both in the immediate, "he's going to fuck shit up," sense, and also as a microcosm.
::: spoiler in rural areas
some folks are proud to be ignorant. there is an aversion to literacy. James Stephen, a rich white kid, grew up in one of those North Carolina areas.
:::
TL;DR: talk a bunch of shit about James Patterson, but the dude puts his money where his mouth is.
My partner is a retired bookseller. There's a lot of history and context over which I'm hand-waving. But Patterson has an annual [thing] wherein he awards a grant to employees of an independent bookstore for that employee's cause du jour. I forget the numbers, but it's significant. Like... life-changing quantities of money relative to the bookseller's position and proposal.
My partner has won the James Patterson annual award for [some things she was getting into before we met] about five (seven?) times. She is assed out and is not responding to my poking her to ask. Patterson has funded things like my partner's hand-painted/drawn shelf-talkers, even if they weren't for his books. Patterson funded my partner's friend's launch of an independent bookstore.
Hate on Patterson all you want (oh... and I do). But the dude really gives back.
Saw some people go through it and it has pretty much all the markers for shitty AI writing. Em-dashes, 'it's not just x, it's y', rules of three, everything. It's AI slop.
Both my kids (13 and 11) aren’t fans of reading, but there are some books they can’t put down (One Piece and Jujutsu Kaizen manga). And honestly, I’m all for it if it gets them excited about reading and not glued to their screens.
I even read the books once they are done with them. It’s kinda like a little book club. 🤷♂️
My only complaint is that the selection at the library is thin and incomplete.
JJK actually does require decent reading comprehension. I'm glad that your are letting them read what is essentially a comic book. I even had a hatd time reading JJK. I stopped reading right before the end sinply because they introduced too many characters too quickly and it felt like they expected me to tremendously who was who. One Piece is a much easier read and still deals with deep themes.
I don't know if this is real, but James Patterson is known for partnering with famous people to write books with them. My impression (guess) is that he does the writing while they provide inspiration. I read both the books he did with Bill Clinton. The first one was okay. The second one was forgettable. Or maybe it was the other way around. I can't recall which was which. Maybe they were both mid at best?
He's done a few that had me curious. I just don't find his writing to be all that great. The story can hook you, but if you forget it shortly after, did it really make an impact?
Also, I don't fault MrBeast for saying books were boring growing up. They didn't pick fun books in anybody's school, I believe. We were not taught to enjoy books. We were taught to enjoy movies and video games. We were taught that books were boring. That's a failing of our education.
The thing is james patterson barely writes his own books anymore. At this point his popularity just sorta has its own momentum. So slapping his name on a book that a team of writers or ai vomits out is guaranteed sales.
I'm convinced that James Patterson isn't a real author. I was a huge fan of Maximum Ride as a teenager. Honestly, looking back, it had the obvious fingerprints of a team of ghostwriters all over it. A disjointed plot that just kept going, ballooning plotholes, forgotten powers and abilities. Hell, the main character's hair even changed color for no apparent reason.
I think at one point he wrote his own books. But I’d be surprised if he even writes the outlines for his novels anymore. His publisher is using his name as a brand now, and slapping it on books “co-written” by celebrities. Who knows how involved the celebs are past book promotion.
It's ghostwritten. And not by just one author, it's ghostwritten by a couple of them. Plot points get forgotten, powers and abilities just change without warning, characters start making erratic decisions, and the status quo varies from book to book. Hell, Max's hair even changes color once for no particular reason.
That's quite hilarious and I hope, if Hollywood driven by their desperation decices to make a Maximum Ride movie, then in it now and then Max switches hair color with no apparent reason and without anyone addressing it.
47 Comments
jontree255@lemmy.world · 102 pts · 17h
Yes it’s real. Apparently it’s not selling well because the venn diagram of “Mr Beast fans” and “people who read” are two circles that just barely touch.
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 19 pts · 17h
His target audience are minors, so that tracks.
Thorry@feddit.org · 8 pts · 13h
Do minors not read anymore? I read a lot as a kid.
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 10 pts · 12h
unfortunately😔 it seems to be the case
Thorry@feddit.org · 1 pts · 9h
😔
imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 7h
My kids read constantly; but none of their friends do, AFAIK.
BeatL@pawb.social · 0 pts · 13h
they do. The "kids dont read anymore" come from i don't know where.
they read books, book tiktok is a thing. Youtuber as well. They read journal articles online or otherwise, they text each other so... they read same for social media. Audiobook is on the rise. In my book it count as reading a book. You are aware of each line of content of the book.
The most "kids don't read anymore" come from politicians that attribute the closure of library to young people instead of amazon, policies that does not protect or recognize librarians, etc.
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 7h
What data are you using to come to this scarcely creditable claim? IM texts and street signs would be rather moving the goalpost, I think.
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 7h
The article i read about this yesterday said that kids read a huge amount of very short texts, but hate reading more than like 10-20 pages of text at a time.
Comic books are doing really well at scholastic because the text is broken up by images throughout.
BeatL@pawb.social · 1 pts · 5h
Well there is some of my own experience, some friends that are librarians, the wonderfull book "sois jeune et tais toi, une réponses a ceux qui critiquent la jeunesse" in english "be young and shut up! an answer to thoses that mock the youngs" from Salomé Saquee that goes above and beyond explaining that most stereotypes abount youngs are just that, stereotypes. https://world.edu/yes-young-people-are-still-reading-but-differently/
But i believe that reading is important, i believe you do too.
Do you have other sources? we could have a complementary vision of the world ;) Or both learn something ;p
Zarobi@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 12h
Should have released a Mr. Beast audiobook then instead of a bookbook; narrated by da beast himself, now streaming on TikTok in 490 parts. That would have sold much better. Market research.
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 1 pts · 7h
iirc, they have a podcast for this exact reason.
Schmuppes@lemmy.today · 47 pts · 12h
"I never read any books when I was growing up" is a sentence I would definitely keep to myself as an adult.
Maybe I'm too judgy, but my first reaction will probably always be "Yeah, now that you say it it's quite apparent."
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 7h
I saw him read a book when he was a kid. The dictionary. For like 24 hours straight on a webcam.
Schmuppes@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 6h
Oof, you weren't even kidding.
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 6h
People somehow don't realize how MrBeast got his start. He performed superhuman feats of boredom and endurance to get his channel certified. I seem to recall he counted to a million in another stream. I was really confused when the popular media started talking about someone I knew as a sideshow freak in a similar genre to LA Beast. The guy isn't dealing with the normal human configuration of brain goo. His relationship with human suffering is fucking WEIRD. It's like he's lost the ability to comprehend what it is, and he just walks around faking it. It kinda scares me that he is so powerful now. Both in the immediate, "he's going to fuck shit up," sense, and also as a microcosm.
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 9 pts · 7h
::: spoiler in rural areas some folks are proud to be ignorant. there is an aversion to literacy. James Stephen, a rich white kid, grew up in one of those North Carolina areas. :::
JayleneSlide@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 15h
TL;DR: talk a bunch of shit about James Patterson, but the dude puts his money where his mouth is.
My partner is a retired bookseller. There's a lot of history and context over which I'm hand-waving. But Patterson has an annual [thing] wherein he awards a grant to employees of an independent bookstore for that employee's cause du jour. I forget the numbers, but it's significant. Like... life-changing quantities of money relative to the bookseller's position and proposal.
My partner has won the James Patterson annual award for [some things she was getting into before we met] about five (seven?) times. She is assed out and is not responding to my poking her to ask. Patterson has funded things like my partner's hand-painted/drawn shelf-talkers, even if they weren't for his books. Patterson funded my partner's friend's launch of an independent bookstore.
Hate on Patterson all you want (oh... and I do). But the dude really gives back.
Rothe@piefed.social · 18 pts · 12h
That's nice and all, but then there is the fact that he partnered up with Mr. Beast about a book.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 12h
I thought Patterson, like a lot of fiction genre authors was a pseudonym that's shared by many different authors.
Not hating on that, I think it makes it cooler but I wonder how they decide what to donate
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 19 pts · 18h
Evil cannot create, it can only corrupt
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 7h
Sadly untrue. False bravado on the part of evil's victims.
itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 9h
Saw some people go through it and it has pretty much all the markers for shitty AI writing. Em-dashes, 'it's not just x, it's y', rules of three, everything. It's AI slop.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 17h
Tbf he has a point. Getting to read something you like vs having to for an assignment can be very souring.
Can't be worse than teens reading the fountain head either.
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 5 pts · 17h
We don't think teens want to read at all, esp. his addicted demographic.
dohpaz42@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 15h
Both my kids (13 and 11) aren’t fans of reading, but there are some books they can’t put down (One Piece and Jujutsu Kaizen manga). And honestly, I’m all for it if it gets them excited about reading and not glued to their screens.
I even read the books once they are done with them. It’s kinda like a little book club. 🤷♂️
My only complaint is that the selection at the library is thin and incomplete.DrPop@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 8h
JJK actually does require decent reading comprehension. I'm glad that your are letting them read what is essentially a comic book. I even had a hatd time reading JJK. I stopped reading right before the end sinply because they introduced too many characters too quickly and it felt like they expected me to tremendously who was who. One Piece is a much easier read and still deals with deep themes.
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 1 pts · 12h
time to complete the library then😁
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 11h
I don't know if this is real, but James Patterson is known for partnering with famous people to write books with them. My impression (guess) is that he does the writing while they provide inspiration. I read both the books he did with Bill Clinton. The first one was okay. The second one was forgettable. Or maybe it was the other way around. I can't recall which was which. Maybe they were both mid at best?
He's done a few that had me curious. I just don't find his writing to be all that great. The story can hook you, but if you forget it shortly after, did it really make an impact?
Also, I don't fault MrBeast for saying books were boring growing up. They didn't pick fun books in anybody's school, I believe. We were not taught to enjoy books. We were taught to enjoy movies and video games. We were taught that books were boring. That's a failing of our education.
subverted_per@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 8h
The thing is james patterson barely writes his own books anymore. At this point his popularity just sorta has its own momentum. So slapping his name on a book that a team of writers or ai vomits out is guaranteed sales.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 46m
I never considered AI writes his books. Would we even know?
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 6h
I'm convinced that James Patterson isn't a real author. I was a huge fan of Maximum Ride as a teenager. Honestly, looking back, it had the obvious fingerprints of a team of ghostwriters all over it. A disjointed plot that just kept going, ballooning plotholes, forgotten powers and abilities. Hell, the main character's hair even changed color for no apparent reason.
He's always been just a cheap brand.
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 6 pts · 17h
It is:
status/2094837479861792791I recommend the original although:
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 16h
Pretty sure they have nothing to do with each other.
waltersf@bookwyr.me · 4 pts · 16h
🥁
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 17h
I don't think I've seen a book written by just Paterson in a long while. It's all co-writes.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 16h
IIRC, I think Paterson has always been a team of ghost writers.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 10h
Not at all.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 6h
Fair enough, guess I didn’t remember correctly 😅
reddig33@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5h
I think at one point he wrote his own books. But I’d be surprised if he even writes the outlines for his novels anymore. His publisher is using his name as a brand now, and slapping it on books “co-written” by celebrities. Who knows how involved the celebs are past book promotion.
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 2 pts · 9h
He has a very successful series of YA called Maximum Ride and he has done a ton of thrillers.
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6h
Hi. I was a Maximum Ride fan as a teenager.
It's ghostwritten. And not by just one author, it's ghostwritten by a couple of them. Plot points get forgotten, powers and abilities just change without warning, characters start making erratic decisions, and the status quo varies from book to book. Hell, Max's hair even changes color once for no particular reason.
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 1 pts · 48m
That's quite hilarious and I hope, if Hollywood driven by their desperation decices to make a Maximum Ride movie, then in it now and then Max switches hair color with no apparent reason and without anyone addressing it.
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 8h
Oh, I know. My wife loves them. I mean, recently, most of his books have been him and someone else. Full marks haven't really gone to him in a while.
gex@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 4h
Is it yet another ripoff of squid game?
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 2 pts · 9h
I love the comment, I hope it is satire.
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 16h
I wish he wrote more in the Daniel X series that first one was one of my favorite sci fi books of all time growing up.