Crossposted from https://slrpnk.net/post/42260633
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — A New Mexico man was arrested after allegedly shooting and killing his cousin during an argument over whose plate of green chile enchiladas was hotter.
Ervin Joaquin Gutierrez, 22, was charged with an open count of murder in the Aug. 27 killing of 25-year-old Nathaniel Cavazos.
56 Comments
tal@lemmy.today · 56 pts · 1d
Alcohol and enchiladas: a recipe for irresolvable conflict.
"Family would never beat someone else bloody!"
Promptly proceeds to shoot family member in the back.
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 21 pts · 1d
They do take their green chile very seriously in New Mexico. So I think the outrage was more oriented at a family member dissing their green chile more than it was about throwing hands. Those are fighting words in Hatch pepper country.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Is there a bullshit crime of passion defense besides the self-defense angle (cousin punched perp)
Thats is or used to be a thing in stereotypicalky "passionate" locales Italy or Spain or something
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 1d
It would probably be the difference between murder and manslaughter. Crime of passion usually argues you had no prior intent.
tal@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1d
There is a "fighting words" exception to the First Amendment, which has been narrowed by courts so far as honor culture has declined that it's mostly non-operative today. That isn't a defense for someone who attacks someone who says something, but it did recognize that there was a social culture at one point of not being able to just outright insult someone without them having a social obligation to respond violently, so it permitted laws against such insults.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words
The idea here is that you can't just go around calling someone a fascist without expecting them to immediately shoot you or otherwise hurt you in response, so to avoid that, it's constitutionally-acceptable for legislators to pass laws to prohibit someone from calling someone else a fascist like that.
Over the years, it's been steadily narrowed by a series of court decisions.
macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1d
My first thought was “green or red?”.
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 23h
Green chile is best chile.
motruck@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 1d
Trump logic number 1.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 23h
I'll be thinking of this story next time a company claims that, "We're a family here."
darvocet@infosec.pub · 46 pts · 1d
What the actual fuck? I read this whole article and they didn't answer the question. Who's enchiladas where hotter?
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 23h
Asking the real questions holmes.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 1d
Why does this article have multiple AI slop photos of enchilladas? I'd almost understand the one – just to have something there if you're lazy and useless as fuck – but there are four.
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 1d
And none of them are New Mexican enchiladas, we like 'em flat here.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 1 pts · 22h
Flat?! That ain't an enchillada. It's a tostada or a quesadilla.
daychilde@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 17h
Oh. Food gatekeeping.
Fuck food gatekeeping. I'll take this plate of enchiladas. And a plate of more standard Texmax ones. And some Mexican ones. Give them allllllllll to me and keep them away from people who don't appreciate good food.
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 21h
Spoken like someone who has never had one.
https://freshchileco.com/blogs/fresh-chile-recipes/the-original-hatch-red-chile-enchiladas-a-family-recipe-from-the-heart-of-hatch-new-mexico
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 1 pts · 21h
No, I have had tostadas. 😤
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 21h
A tostada is nothing like an enchilada.
blueduck@piefed.social · 1 pts · 21h
What do you mean flat?
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 20h
From another reply I posted:
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 23h
Percent chance they were drunk: 110%
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 16 pts · 22h
You are correct.
Trex202@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 21h
Sounds like a good last day
fake_meows@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 17h
Things got really heated.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1d
icwydt
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1d
Now that's a New Mexico ass headline
daychilde@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 18h
eh, I thought it was okay
;-)
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 2h
It's all sick, nuh?
StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social · 8 pts · 23h
Read that as "Man fatally shoots cousin during a heated argument over whose echidnas were spicier" and it didn't make much sense
sydd@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 23h
It doesn't make sense any way you read it.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 16h
You have clearly not witnessed the depravity of the Sonic fandom.
Echidnas have multi-headed dicks.
StealthLizardDrop@piefed.social · 2 pts · 14h
Oh my goodness!
Professorozone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 16h
Everyone knows echidnas aren't spicy.
rmuk@feddit.uk · 5 pts · 22h
Without condoning... or condemning... I understand.
Garbagio@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 22h
Puro
workerONE@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 22h
Hey Ervin, my enchiladas are spicier than yours
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 19h
I get it.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 1d
finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1d
Use the slur and own being a shithead or shut up. "Regarded" is as pathetic as maga trying to dogwhistle "fuck joe biden" with "let's go brandon"
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 21h
It won't be long before neurodivergent is a slur, too:
New research reveals mixed feelings about the terms “neurodiversity” and “neurodivergent”
finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 17h
That's not at all what the article you linked claims. The 'mixed feelings' had to do with using the terms being used performatively instead of actually putting in the work to create inclusive spaces.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
So there are 2 victims? Or no victims? I think i get your point but someone did die though.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
∴
viable self-defense case? U decide
huppakee@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1d
Let's just say i'm glad i'm not a judge.
Zorque@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Did the victim have a gun? Was there a reason the perp didnt just walk away?
I see a lot of "this is a good reason to shoot someone because they made me angry" and not a lot of "I feared for my life and killing someone was the only thing I could do to prevent it" in your list.
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 23h
Alcohol and machismo.
Zorque@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 5h
So still the former rather than the latter.
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 5h
Zorque@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2h
👍
cheese_greater@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
Ya, all that will have to come out as part of the Defense if he want the aquittal.
Its certainly possible
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 23h
This is a lie by omission.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1d
Using an ableist slur but pussyfooting around it by swapping out the 't'.
What a little bitch. Commit to being a shithead or don't.
Edit: Since there's confusion: this is a common spelling of the word "retarded" to get around filters. They just used it here, where there is no filter, because they wanted to use a slur but know it's looked down upon to use slurs.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
LowtierComputer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1d
Am I stupid? What slur is he talking about?
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1d
They're using the word "retarded" but swapping out the 't' for a 'g' as self-censorship. See: the comment below from another user making this more explicit by calling me "fucking retard".
LowtierComputer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 23h
I don't remember what they wrote, but I can imagine it.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 1d
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1d
Did you know it was wrong to use the slur but wanted to anyway? Explain to the class.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1d
Carmakazi@piefed.social · -4 pts · 1d
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1d
You're certainly in good company.