Climate change

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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 21h (16 replies)

The Iran War is going to decrease fossil fuel consumption globally for the first time since COVID.

Shame we're locked into ten more years of escalation. But we've actually turned a corner, believe it or not.

adjectivenoun@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 17h (2 replies)

I work at a factory that makes components for electric vehicles, and also sells some stuff to defense contractors on the side. Two years ago, the Trump Administration completely fucked over my company by threatening previously-guaranteed CHIPS money and magically deleting Inflation Reduction Act measures intended to encourage adoption of EVs. Our demand dropped like a rock, we laid off 80% of our workforce, raises got frozen, equity turned to dust, etc. Then the US did Israel's bidding and started this asinine war with Iran. For a month there was nothing. Then the defense orders came trickling in. Then we couldn't keep those tools running fast enough. Finally, two months later, the EV stuff showed up like a flash flood in the Grand Canyon. Insane we were almost bankrupted by his stupidity, then saved by it. For my part, I'm going to try to upgrade my gas furnace to a heat pump before it gets cold.

mobyduck648@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 5h (1 reply)

Christ I wish housing wasn't so fucked in the UK. The odds of my landlord replacing the ancient gas boiler with a heat pump is nil, not when we're still fitting millions of new gas boilers, even to the few new builds that make it through planning ffs. Even if I owned my house a heat pump might not be feasible for various reasons, many of them down to our housing stock just being totally naff in various ways.

Don't get me wrong the Russians love to exaggerate our problems, but the best thing we can do to fuck the Kremlin over is getting the natural gas needle out of our collective arms which we're just not that interested in doing. Sure the grid is decarbonising but the majority of heating is still natural gas, and the grid can't be upgraded to fix this due to our genuine economic self-harm of discretionary planning where bored retirees and self-interested QUANGOs can delay everything to the point of non-viability.

adjectivenoun@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 55m

Are photovoltaics an option for you? I can buy a pallet of 32 of them for about $5k and from what I understand, this is despite hefty tariffs. They're approaching impulse buy territory. That said, I'm capable of installing them myself, which is a big part of the cost for most installations.

anonymouse2@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 20h (3 replies)

Why is the solution always killing brown people?

moth@anarchist.nexus · 4 pts · 3h (2 replies)

it's the solution for white people. china has been steaming along at a breakneck pace towards renewable energy for years now. if it wasn't for their production capacity for photovoltaic cells and batteries, there wouldn't be a solar revolution right now.

of course, they also released a ton of oil when the Iran war started picking up, so that wasn't great, but it also maybe saved our asses as well.

https://youtu.be/BkA0bkb6ZO0

galacticbackhoe@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 59m (1 reply)

Or China doing all those things and killing brown people (Uyghurs).

moth@anarchist.nexus · 1 pts · 42m

while the plight of the Uyghur and other minority groups, and the deeply state-enforced Han supremacist policies are something to criticize China for, it has nothing to do with the recent move towards solar and renewable energy, and is a good example of whataboutism.

also, it's a bit racist to think of the Uyghurs and assume that they must be Arabs or Persians. the Uyghurs are native to central and east Asia, not what Westerners would refer to as the "Middle East", or West Asia/Eastern Africa.

hash@slrpnk.net · 20 pts · 19h (5 replies)

Yeah, all the current events making diesel more expensive suck, and will hurt everyone's budget regardless if they drive. But we all know we need to use less diesel, right? We've just found the worst possible way to reduce the world's reliance on diesel.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 18h

That's Market Forces for you.

Making everyone feel the pain all at once in the worst way possible

victorz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 18h (3 replies)

Holy fuck.

Can you imagine if this is Trump's deal, all along? Take the fall for being a douche, while waging war on Iran, making oil scarce, forcing us all to rely less on it, saving the planet?

Oh my god someone slap me out of this shit. I need to recenter myself. 🤚🫱😳💨

HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 18h

You know, I'm convinced with the right person in his ear, he could be convinced to play that angle.....Pysch! I was just doing this to save the world. Now we're going fully renewable! He just needs to believe that he'll be hailed as a hero.

kestrel7_7@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2h (1 reply)

He’s not that stupid, and he’s also not that smart

victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1h

Thank you, I needed that.

shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 3h (2 replies)

Might have been an understandable (albeit crass) geopolitical play if the West was leading in renewables but instead it has pushed low and middle income countries further into China's sphere of influence and also into purchasing more Russian oil.

History will see this as an accelerant in the process of global power shifting from West to East. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, the West has been resting on its laurel's for a bit too long now, so this was likely an inevitable transition.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2h

it has pushed low and middle income countries further into China’s sphere of influence and also into purchasing more Russian oil.

Idk about Russia, given how much of their infrastructure is being demolished.

But China has competitors in the green energy industry globally. The US just isn't one of them.

ElChinchilla@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 3h

Hegemonic Shift

wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 39 pts · 21h (3 replies)

The "revolution" will not be televized, but it will be in portrait format and wobbly AF, in 30sec snippets. 🥲🤷🏼‍♂️

floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 16h (2 replies)

The revolution will have frequent ad breaks

Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de · 11 pts · 15h (1 reply)

The revolution will be sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends

wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 12h

...and Brawndo's temu cousin, from the looks of it.

Frankly, the Revolution© will be the ad breaks. 🤢😢

ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org · 13 pts · 21h (1 reply)

At that point, such a high percentage of people will be seeking wildfire/flood/hurricane/etc. relief that your footage won't even make the first 10 pages of GoFundMe

MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social · 5 pts · 20h

and GoFundMe may or may not still be up at that point

ceenote@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 20h (1 reply)

Frankly, I'd prefer this over the more likely scenario: Not all locations are equally susceptible to climate change related disasters. The people who made their wealth wrecking the earth are going to fill those places, and leave the rest of us to survive as best we can in the hurricanes, mudslides, and heatwaves.

prettybunnys@piefed.social · 1 pts · 19m

North America and Russia are supposed to see a wild increase to arable land while the global south gets fucked, as usual.

Might be part of why they’re going so hard in the “get em all out and keep em out” schtick

cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 2h (1 reply)

Back in my day you could just enjoy the terrifying land slides in the moment and didn't need to record it on your phone for social validation.

Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 1h

Was this typed from under turtle mountain?

Jumi@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 18h (2 replies)

It is already here, I took pictures of cracked earth and dry riverbeds this summer and I live in fucking Middle Europe.

mobyduck648@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 5h (1 reply)

There was drought in Wales. I know non-UK people might not appreciate how wild this is, so I'll add that Wales is popularly considered the place where they make the rain. Not this year though!

Jumi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 4h

My area is supposed to be humid as well but it has been arid for years now but never as bad as it was this year

DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2h

It's incredibly depressing that rich countries (mostly NA, EU, Japan) account for 92% of all CO2 emissions to date, but only suffer 1% of deaths, and about 15% of material damages caused by climate change.

Source: 'Less Is More' by Jason Hickel

reka@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 3h

Me looking at my phone: Damn, I'd sure hate to be the guy this meme is talking about!

anonymouse2@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 20h (1 reply)

Can't wait for my beach front property.

Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 1h

🎶 in Ar-iii-zoooon-uh

RockBottom@feddit.org · 6 pts · 19h (3 replies)

Or by the time it arrives in your area you're used to it and don't bother anymore to film it. There's a generation alive now that never knew a normal climate.

victorz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 19h (2 replies)

normal climate

"But this climate is normal?"

RockBottom@feddit.org · 2 pts · 10h (1 reply)

It's out of whack.

victorz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 6h

To us who lived in the before times, yeah.

late_pessimistic@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 5h

And natural disasters still isn't the worst part of climate change already happening

gibson@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 16h
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IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 21h

I think Ontario has the craziest dichotomy here. You can live right in the middle of the biggest collection of surface freshwater on the planet, and it's the fires that are most likely to get you.

Asetru@feddit.org · 5 pts · 21h

... and then you either move somewhere else and watch the footage from the people you passed or you die.

MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social · 5 pts · 20h

At least I won't have to worry about dying from it because the cameraman never dies /j

Iammetheone@thelemmy.club · 5 pts · 3h

I agree. Look at how many natural disasters have happened recently and what are people doing? Nothing. What are politicians or people who hold power are doing? They are Building more data centre and accelerating more industries that will lead to a faster destruction of this planet.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 10h

Nah, I'm gonna move to the other side of the line when it gets close. Climate disasters only happen once in an area ever.

Cnote5@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 21h

The awareness fundraisers after the awards shows and film festivals are gonna be lit.

lena@gregtech.eu · 3 pts · 3h

This seems like an interesting videogame concept

Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 26m

Cyclone Chido hit us in december 2024, it felt a bit like the end of days. I think it was comparable to what people near or in the gulf of Mexico experience every few years. Then I saw what hit Nepal not even a month ago (GLOF or glacial lake outburst flood), then the floods in China. These are terrifying. They can't happen where I live but there are other perils : running out of drinking water, more cyclones. We're entering rainy season now.

Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 10h

The global warming will not be televised.

FatVegan@leminal.space · 1 pts · 26m

Social media weirdos being jelous of all the attention tgese dying people get.

QueenHawlSera@piefed.social · 0 pts · 13h (3 replies)

At this point, I welcome the destruction of our world.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 10h

Okay Schopenhauer no playing with time machines for you

late_pessimistic@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 5h

Not for the animals. They had no part in this

Juice@midwest.social · 3 pts · 12h

Its cuffing season for apocalypse cults