If people use it and they don't post or comment, it could go dark

But if I comment then I'll break my 9 year record of being a lurker on social media!

FUCK SPEZ

Can’t we just upvote?

Plot twist: All of the "bot accounts" were actually a huge influx of Reddit users who were lurking. By removing the accounts / defederating with their instances, we've sent them all back to Reddit, ensuring Reddit can pull through the mass exodus.

But it's scary

This is not a strictly commercial network. Do we really need useless comments or posts just to increase some stats numbers? I'd think about quality contents instead.

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Lemmy only counts users who posted or commented as active users

You gotta post or comment!

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^I'm a human volunteer transcribing posts in a format compatible with screen readers, for blind and visually impaired users!^

But, I'm a lurker.

Doing my part

How is upvoting/downvoting not considered being active? :/

About 15 years ago many of us left Digg and migrated to Reddit because at that time it became kind of what Reddit is right now without even all the API shit going on.

I have been hoping for something to replace Reddit for a few years now but it seems like every possible alternative would instantly become populated by the alt-right, people who got evinced from other platforms, instead of free software loving geeks and their relatives.

Reddit actually gave us the kick in the butt that we needed to start anew and make something better. I wanted to fight, I made the subs I managed private and then NSFW but I realize it is not worth spending the energy.

We are the people who made Reddit great but there is no point in trying to keep it this ways, it isn't even great anymore anyway. Let's not be slaves to a company that only cares about profit and acts as if we need them while the truth is that they need us.

Trying to make Reddit better, at this point, is like volunteering for Microsoft instead of contributing to open-source projects with the hope that they will become less oriented toward profits.

This is already a place we can call our own, all we have to do is to furnish it and make it a nice place to be for those who understand why it is worthwhile to do so. It is not the actual owners of Reddit that made it great, quite the contrary even, they keep on making it worst. It is us, the users who made it great and we can do the same here.

I am pretty sure Aaron Swartz himself would tell us to leave the site he created if he could communicate from his grave. There is no point in wasting energy for a company that wants to sell us NFTs, virtual gifts and rewards. I never bought any of this shit anyway but I am going to make Lemmy a donation right now!

I mean, I've had a Reddit account for 13-14 years, maybe even longer, as I was a lurker who bookmarked different subreddits, prior to making an account. In those years, I have commented maybe 5 times in total. So you dont get to tell me what to do, and I certainly won't be commenting on this post.

Weird that votes don't count as activity. Oh well, here's me being active -- hope it helps.

Don't care.

Doing my part 🫡

I've already posted more here than my last 4 years on Reddit.

I've never commented so much since I was on spez's den. On Reddit I was kind of intimidated most of the time because there would be already a lot of comments, and I feared I had nothing of substance to add.

Here there's less comments, but in this case I guess less is more. 😇

Please drink water

I like trains.

Hard to do when a major app, Jerboa, can't do logins with a large instance, lemmy.world. I went through the trouble of making an account on the web just for versioning to make it unusable in app.

You're not my dad!

I guess I probably should start commenting. Just been lurking and trying to find my communities.

Sure, I guess I'm active, but I will go back to lurking

That sounds kinda self-sabotaging but ok. I shall comment!

Sorry I'll try harder!

I just feel like I don't have anything of value to add most of the time. I just enjoy lurking.

But what if I'm an introvert and like to lurk? Introverts unite! Separately! And in different places!

count me daddy lemmy

I didn't know that, how often does a user have to comment/post to be "active"? Are we only active the days we do it?

It ain't much...

Why do you think you need to be counted?

B - but my username

OK, guess I'll comment then.

What about votes? Do they count as activity?

YOU GOTTA GIVE!

NO YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO

...wait, shit, I COMMENTED BUT NOT BECAUSE YOU TOLD ME TO

I don't like engaging with people... but I also feel the need to help Lemmy's numbers.... what to do.

Y

eh. nice try. I'll stay lurkin'.

is upvote counted?

In about 10 years on Reddit I made probably less than 5 comments and never posted. I think I already have more comments here in the past month, just a much better community and I actually feel like commenting more.

Voting should count but fine I’ll comment

Voting on posts doesn't count as engagement?

You can't make me. Wait... shit...

hello fellow active users

You can't tell me what to do! You're not my manager!

I’m a lurker here until I find my people. This is my first comment. Hello, Lemmy!

Also, WefWef is pretty amazing. I hope it goes full native iOS someday.

HOLD THAT DOOR!! HOLD THAT DOOR!! walks slowly to elevator

Oh shit I only get one opportunity to say something witty and I just wasted

"active users" is such a vague metric... each platform has its own rules for that, so it's meaningless (not to mention the obvious inflation of commercial ones, so comparison is useless in practice)

transparent data such as "# active posters", "# active commenters", "# active voters", etc makes a lot more sense if we are not thinking commercially (which I'm guessing is the whole point of independent communities such as fediverse). no need to impress anyone and the metrics become readable

Fine Mom, you've guilted me into commenting.

But I want to just lurk...😅

I'm trying to but i can't for some reason

Ok fine

Doing my part.

I prefer to lurk

So, now we're begging for low quality content (like this comment)?

Fuck spez

Maybe we're all scared because reddit was full of mean assholes who called us names

It's me, I'm scared :( and why I won't miss reddit

If I comment from another instance, does it count towards my instance or the instance the post was from?

I like to just browse but whatever. Hi.

How often? Does it effect my tax bracket? Can I bring a friend?

Cereal goes before milk

Nah I don't think I will.

I am currently posting or commenting

There. I commented. I have saved the internet

I am an active user :)

I have been and will continue to. Especially once Baconreader goes dark. This is my new home, reddit account already deleted.

I love lamp.

Guess I can't be a lurker anymore then

You can't tell me what to do! Wait...

This is the 21st comment since I started using Lemmy on this account

Well might as well comment

Lotta people give

Active user reporting in

I'm not worried about it, I'm not worried about any of it!

I would like to but I don't know what to post :(

thas stupid

We are the road crew!

I'm doing my part!

I'm doing my part

u can't tell me what to do

I DIDNT DO FUCKIN SHIT!

am I doing this right? can everyone hear me?

Hi

So you're saying to count as an active user I need to post or comment?

I'm a bit out of the loop, does just lurking mean you lose your account after a while or something?

Commenting just to be part of the statistic...

Never.

I am doing my part!

Big if true

I'm doing my part!

You gotta give!

I will literaly never post anything, even comments

Tbh, that's kinda dumb, up/down votes should be considered activity too

I'm helping!

I’m doing my part

Hi!

The gentry has landed

On lemmy I've felt I can be more genuine when commenting instead of being worried on what to say

What up, I'm Jared, I'm 19, and I never f***ing learned how to post

How often do I need to comment?

Yeah here’s my part 🫡

What's this from?

Reporting for active duty 🎖️

Always been a lurker but sounds like I gotta do my part!

I'm an active user

I used to be a lurker, but I find myself more encouraged to participate on Lemmy. This here is my THIRD comment in the last two days, which is a lot of engagement compared to my usual levels on Reddit.

I am not getting notifications for replies to my comments on android, I have tried jerboa, summit, liftoff, thunder, and connect for lemmy

Am I missing something here? Are push notifications not implemented yet?

I am doing my part..

This is good to know!

Ok

I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.

I’m active I’m active, damn!

Plus one active user.

Posting

1 (doing my part)

Lemming reporting in!

IM DOING MY PART!!

I'm alive and lurking (mostly).

Hi

well lets post and comment!

Who would make it go dark?

Lurker reporting in 👋

Lol not trying to be snarky here but is that true or is it a way to get people here to comment and boost posts?

Hi

Don't tell me how to live my life

Lurkers wanna lurk!

Here's ya sign buddy

Shit, no lurking?

You aren't considered an active user unless you post or comment at least once during the period measured (day, week, month, year)

Oh my piano

I'm doing my part!

hello world

Here's my one comment for the day.

wait, words? should I use them?

Everything changed when the fire nation attacked

I will be better. I promise!

Okay if you insist there you go

My comment is here now, thanks.

Doing my part

Am I doing this right?

I'm doing my part!

Spuck fez?

Lemmy what now? so this 5.8mil daily active users are only the people who post or comment? woah

Something

You hit me in the cup

Ok, fine. I'll comment.

Ok!

No.

Upvote

comment

Do I have to?

Comment

What

All right, here i am, part of the statistics.

E

I am commenting!

i have yet to make a post though...

I had no idea it was counted that way. Guess I oughta do my part lmao

I'm doing my part, you're doing your part, everyone's doing their part!

Commenting

Active User here!

I didnt know this!

good!

Reddit is a Dumpster fire 🔥

you gotta give

Yeah good so this is going to be my first comment on this platform.

I’m an active user 🫡

Count me active like one of your French girls.

Well I'm trying to be active I swear

How often should we comment/post?

Hi I’m active.

I’m doing my part!

Reporting in as instructed

Hi

Hello :)

Yo!

ok

What if we post a comment?

/* Here you go */

.

Here for the party

Thia is a comment of an active user!

Lurker reporting in for duty

It does say "active" users right there in the title.

This is a comment

okay

I am doing my part!

🫡 Doing my part, soldier.

Lurker checking in

I'm doing my part

Comment

I'm here 🫡

Well I used to be a total piece of shit. But I'm not anymore.

But what’s the point if they are not adding anything besides active user number go up?

You can't tell me what to do!!

Count me in!

Count me in!

Absolutely not! You're not the boss of me! 😂

Are you a cop? You gotta tell me if you're a cop. Right?

don’t tell me what to do!

We’re all here…

ok, ok, just don't send me the loud videos that can't be turned down or off.

Does it count if I'm a bot?

I don't even know how to make an account properly. This is a test comment

I don't know what to saaaaaayyyyyy...

@danc4498 does it count if I’m posting from a #Mastodon acc?

active lurker

I'm doing my part!

Hi

Hi it's me, Active

I’m doing my part 🫡

O7

TIL.

Present

Nice try, OP. I will never comment. Never!

Alright alright cool it down okay?

Sigh

hello world!

Votes don’t count?

Oh nyo

HOLD THAT POST, HOLD THAT POST!!!

I post, i count.

Pointless user interaction isn't really required on lemmy/fediverse/activity pub. Because they don't have to sell them selves to advertisers. As long as there's productive conversation and hosting isn't a burden current instances will likely continue ticking along.

What's most likely to kill it would be admins being overwhelmed with moderation needs and a general user backlash against moderation actions.

That's killed so many websites I've ran/moderated for, giving too many chances to users who didn't deserve them.

Count this!

You’ve GOT to give

Comment

Look up at my face

YOU GOTTA POST

Noted

we are the champions???

My little bit

.

Ok. (I use Arch btw)

we out here

Guess I'm active now

Definitely active now

I swear, Tim Robinson's show is made for memes

Got it.

I'm helping I'm helping!

No one should have to suffer through reading my opinions, but here I am for the DAU count

The site's entirely user funded, if people use it and don't give, it'll go under.

Ok you got me on that one! ^Hi^

Welp, here's my part

I post, therefore I am.

Alright, fine! I'll stop lurking...

Is this bait?

Alright fine.

Tamales for dinner

+1 active user

I’m here :)

Posting, commenting, "active" 👍

Is this a karma grab post on a site without karma?

Hello world

No, I won't, you can't make me

Fine I posted, and this is a comment. Happy?

Howdy fellas, 0 com 0posts, 7months acc. Sorry.

You can't tell me what to do!

The more you know. Learning through memes is the best.

Got it.

Post

If Bruce Springsteen had recorded "Born to Lurk", I would be on the cover.

Damn please replace reddit

It's got nothing to do with piss!

Well then, let's add me to the count!

Doing my part!

You guys have active users?

Comment

Hello there

activeUsers++;

comment.

But how will I maintain my lurker status?

Mic test. 1, 2, 3.

Doing my part

Does that make me active?

Because federation is broken between many servers, I have to use multiple accounts to see all the communities.

I’m doing my part!

If

Does it matter where in the fediverse I post?

Bwoah is the same for everybody

Just doing my part 🐛

acitivity

Being active, activate.

I don't wanna comment >:(

lurking only for this gal

Damn, alright.

I guess I’d like to exist.

Aw, man. I can't just lurk?

oh fuck

Weird, how's that?

But I wanted to continue my years of lurking…

Time to stop lurking

let’s go

I'm alive!