I'm pretty sure it's thedonald refugees from Reddit, they're posting about shidding fardding, and posting how scary they are, while banning anyone who says boo to them. I can see why iron fist Bolshevik fascism appeals to these cunts.
I love it when I'm reading the comments for a meme about butts or something, and then it quickly evolves into a deep discussion about the nature of human society.
I've noticed a lot of commenters straight away take things personally and think that mentioning something is endorsing it. That kills discussion and turns it into a defensive symantic battle against commenters' assumptions.
A corrollary to what you're saying is that people assume that because you've replied to them, you must be disagreeing with them. Often I'll agree with a poster but comment to add to their point, only to get chewed out for disagreeing with them when I didn't.
Well, in my honest opinion as a commenter, I'd just like to say that I love discussions. What I tend to not enjoy is replying to the 1500 different people who replied to my post with valid takes, requiring me to read, understand and reply appropriately to all of them.
The active sort should help a little with this, but ya its definitely a problem. Besides just blocking meme-specific communities, can anyone think of ways we could make discussions more prominent for people who'd rather use lemmy for that?
You can't go wrong with taking inspiration from RES.
Having a filter for the type of posts next to the sort type would be pretty good. That would require the posts to be discerned into categories (video, image, text...). I believe they currently aren't?
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !fakehistoryporn@lemmy.world
This isn't wrong, but shitposts bring people who meme which brings people who discuss. Have to get a strong user base before strong discussions really kick off.
I've been noticing that the number of discussions on the internet have been going down lately. Although maybe it's just me using social media less? lol
A lot of people just want a constant dopamine hit, one after another, I love meme and shitposts, but reading a discussion about something interesting is definitely the best way to enjoy a cold evening in your blanket
I commented a lot on reddit. Since switching over, there doesn't seem to be as much activity for me to bounce off from. I still chip in, but it's definitely not at the same level
I interact with it less and less each month. It's become a toxic hellhole that usually leaves me wondering why I still bother to try - even in the niche subs.
Mastodon managed to just confuse the hell out of me before boring me. Take that with a grain of salt, though, because I was never on Twitter. It may be me, not the platform/concept.
Iāve found itās hard to get any Discord community together where chat messages are less than 60% reposted meme images. Someone will post an interesting thought, and then the next post is a single emote or a cat-related meme with a single word like āUdgeā.
The good thing is that you can choose to ignore the meme, reply to the interesting thought and continue the conversation. Then if you keep the conversation going, it could be made a thread if people are interested in it.
Also a honeypot for memes is helpful so people are less inclined to drop them in general channels
Meme images use more vertical scroll space than text. If just a few people repost the same āneutral expression catā image every so often, it pushes away genuine questions very frequently.
People tend to ignore dedicated-channel rules as well.
Provided the community has clear rules on where to post gifs/memes redirecting the user is fine. Of course it should be a gentle reminder and not feel as if the user is getting berated.
If they still get pissy after that, it's more on the user. A reminder to follow the rules is not a personal attack.
I think that's been part of my issue - there's a wealth of bad, or even just "ambivalent" actors, and not enough moderation in a lot of channels.
Plus, while stopping someone from hate speech feels like a clear action for moderation, berating them for things like posting memes in "general" can feel totalitarian. A lot of communities don't commit to that kind of strictness.
So just scroll up? It's not like when a message is off the screen, it's gone forever. Or do you never catch up on messages that you missed while offline and just go in from there?
Itās getting to be worse than Reddit here. Between the countless memes to scroll through and having your account banned for imaginary rule breaking because now that upvotes/downvotes donāt mean anything, people just report comments they donāt like and mods obligeā¦..
101 Comments
li10@lemmy.ml · 120 pts · 2y
Discussion options are limited to:
tpihkal@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 2y
Did you just say Arch Linux?
xeekei@lemm.ee · 21 pts · 2y
'Linux is slang for Arch Linux, so I think they did.
SVcross@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
Can't we all just hate Ubuntu in peace?
robocall@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
I thought I was cool leaving windows for Ubuntu. Y'all crushed me.
Vampiric_Luma@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 2y
I think you're cool :)
I may be heavily biased as a user of Ubuntu, but shhh
ademir@lemmy.eco.br · 4 pts · 2y
Lol you are cool bro š
SVcross@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Hey, if want to try it, feel free to do it. Even Ubuntu is better than Windows.
I was also considering Ubuntu until I learned why I shouldn't.
You be you.
btw I don't like arch.
null@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 2y
Weird way to spell NixOS...
Fades@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 2y
You forgot Star Trek
Obi@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 2y
No that's also just memes and shitposts.
Rusty@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 2y
Not all Star Trek posts are memes and shitposts, some of them are
Rolder@reddthat.com · 17 pts · 2y
Donāt forget freeing Palestine
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 2y
You forgot bitching about Chrome
lolcatnip@reddthat.com · 16 pts · 2y
Just use Firefox!
Switch to Linux!
Why are you still on Twitter?
Only old people use Facebook!
[Silence about that site we don't talk about.]
Am I missing any?
YerbaYerba@lemm.ee · 10 pts · 2y
Beans
moormaan@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 2y
Agreeing about Firefox, Linux and Twitter. Like, seriously agreeing, without sarcasm.
OpenStars@startrek.website · 4 pts · 2y
I see that you must have blocked certain communities that talk about nothing BUT that site that we do "not" talk about:-P.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 2y
I haven't, but I've noticed the discussion seems confined to those communities, and you get yelled at if you bring it to elsewhere.
knexcar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
You forgot Unity! Every time theyāre mentioned, people say just use Godotā¦
iiGxC@slrpnk.net · 13 pts · 2y
What if you get a car running linux? š¤šµļø
tourist@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 2y
park that thing permanently and use it as a Lemmy server
weeeeum@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y
Tbh you can even discuss most of that, if you disagree you'll just be torn to shreds.
tpihkal@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
To shreds you sayā½
namelessdread@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
And his wife?
... to shreds you say?
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Fuck Linux!
Socsa@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 2y
BaronDoggystyleVonWoof@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
More like chardonnay socialists.
catch22@startrek.website · -1 pts · 2y
I'm pretty sure it's thedonald refugees from Reddit, they're posting about shidding fardding, and posting how scary they are, while banning anyone who says boo to them. I can see why iron fist Bolshevik fascism appeals to these cunts.
Dave@lemmy.nz · 8 pts · 2y
What about instance drama?
Rolder@reddthat.com · 10 pts · 2y
Instance drama is usually related to one of the above discussion options
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 2y
I'll take this over the discussion options on Reddit.
OpenStars@startrek.website · 2 pts · 2y
Discussion options on Reddit:
TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
Occasionally a video game... maybe
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 2y
I like when halo punches the bad guys
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
I like that Zelda guy with the sword.
Gallardo994@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2y
With only one non-downvotable opinion
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 2y
Wait'll you see how the rest of the internet is
Dave@lemmy.nz · 36 pts · 2y
Wait, wasn't there a post the other day with Lemmy stats showing more discussion than ever?
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 2y
Yes.
tpihkal@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y
Thanks.
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 2y
np ur wlcm
ademir@lemmy.eco.br · 3 pts · 2y
You are so polite. A gentleman and a scholar!
Peppycito@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 2y
k
explodicle@local106.com · 18 pts · 2y
I love it when I'm reading the comments for a meme about butts or something, and then it quickly evolves into a deep discussion about the nature of human society.
OpenStars@startrek.website · 2 pts · 2y
B-b-b-b-butt... please remember to vote:-).
Vespair@lemm.ee · 15 pts · 2y
Meh. I've seen some decent discussions here on Lemmy, just not in c/memes.
Okay, and admittedly more than half of those discussions were about Linux.
Liz@midwest.social · 2 pts · 2y
It got me to start dual-booting Windows and Mint, so the propaganda works!
ULS@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y
Well, I mean... The L in Lemmy does stand for Linux.
Linux! Everybody Make More You-sers.
bartolomeo@suppo.fi · 15 pts · 2y
I've noticed a lot of commenters straight away take things personally and think that mentioning something is endorsing it. That kills discussion and turns it into a defensive symantic battle against commenters' assumptions.
Klear@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y
I don't do that at all. How dare you?!
bartolomeo@suppo.fi · 4 pts · 2y
Lmao notifications have no context for me (I just see the reply) but I knew right away exactly what comment this was about
wewbull@iusearchlinux.fyi · 8 pts · 2y
A corrollary to what you're saying is that people assume that because you've replied to them, you must be disagreeing with them. Often I'll agree with a poster but comment to add to their point, only to get chewed out for disagreeing with them when I didn't.
w2tpmf@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
This is my experience. I'll add some additional detail that supports someone's comment and almost immediately get a "WELL ACKCHULY" reply from them.
GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 2y
Yep. That and the insane polarization. Itās virtually impossible to have a discussion with anyone here.
Enzy@lemm.ee · 13 pts · 2y
All memes are shitposts.
Facts.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
Whoa there, calm down. Mom can only pay attention to one kid in the pool at a time.
ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y
Well, in my honest opinion as a commenter, I'd just like to say that I love discussions. What I tend to not enjoy is replying to the 1500 different people who replied to my post with valid takes, requiring me to read, understand and reply appropriately to all of them.
I am lazy, ok?!
OpenStars@startrek.website · 10 pts · 2y
Edit: replaced animated gif with a static one bc it just wouldn't stop!!!:-P
where_am_i@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 2y
looks like OP hasn't been to the world news community.
dukk@programming.dev · -1 pts · 2y
I mean, Iāve blocked the news community. Too much political bullshit.
Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 2y
"The problem is that no one's contributing!"
-creates a community, trying to contribute-
-fails spectacularly with no engagement from anyone at all-
Well, that was encouragingššššš
Alsephina@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 2y
Crosspost alot while inviting to the community in post body, link in profile, etc.
Of course, Lemmy isn't big enough to have active niche communities yet unfortunately.
BlueLineBae@midwest.social · 6 pts · 2y
The prophecy is true!
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 2y
grrrrrrr how dare you make fun of shitposts at uselessserver093
Dirk@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 2y
Since federation is broken a lot of instances I follow donāt have new posts. So no discussions for me.
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 2y
What do you mean by federation being broken?
Dirk@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4039
OpenStars@startrek.website · 1 pts · 2y
The new 19.2 may have fixed some of that.
TheBat@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
dessalines@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 2y
The active sort should help a little with this, but ya its definitely a problem. Besides just blocking meme-specific communities, can anyone think of ways we could make discussions more prominent for people who'd rather use lemmy for that?
Wistful@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 2y
You can't go wrong with taking inspiration from RES. Having a filter for the type of posts next to the sort type would be pretty good. That would require the posts to be discerned into categories (video, image, text...). I believe they currently aren't?
dessalines@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 2y
There might be an open issue in the lemmy back end for this, but if not, you might need to open one.
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Hello,
!warhammer40k@lemmy.world
!battletech@lemmy.world
!star_wars@lemmy.world
!americancivilwar@lemmy.world
!historyporn@lemmy.world
!forgottenweapons@lemmy.world
!coldwarwargaming@lemmy.world
!fantasywargaming@lemmy.world
!fallout@lemmy.world
and
!militaryporn@lemmy.world
are all open to the public.
Thereās big robots, little robots, cursed robots, real life robots, and antiquated ships that arenāt robots but are made of metal!
CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world · 1 pts · 2y
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !fakehistoryporn@lemmy.world
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
No machine should communicate with me without my express permission.
ghostface@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
In some niche communities, its discussions stay valid like /c/radiology
Pizza_Rat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
This isn't wrong, but shitposts bring people who meme which brings people who discuss. Have to get a strong user base before strong discussions really kick off.
flameguy21@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 2y
I've been noticing that the number of discussions on the internet have been going down lately. Although maybe it's just me using social media less? lol
ryathal@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 2y
Internet discourse is increasingly devolved into "agree with me or you deserve death"
fastandcurious@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
A lot of people just want a constant dopamine hit, one after another, I love meme and shitposts, but reading a discussion about something interesting is definitely the best way to enjoy a cold evening in your blanket
butter@midwest.social · 4 pts · 2y
Boobs
Fades@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Well said
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I commented a lot on reddit. Since switching over, there doesn't seem to be as much activity for me to bounce off from. I still chip in, but it's definitely not at the same level
OpenStars@startrek.website · 1 pts · 2y
I interact with it less and less each month. It's become a toxic hellhole that usually leaves me wondering why I still bother to try - even in the niche subs.
THE_ANON@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 2y
pensivepangolin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
Mastodon managed to just confuse the hell out of me before boring me. Take that with a grain of salt, though, because I was never on Twitter. It may be me, not the platform/concept.
bluewing@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 2y
I just recently tried Mastodon and I agree with you. It's confusing and I have yet to see anything or anyone worth "following".
Magister@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
š©
pensivepangolin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Poo poo!
Xanthrax@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Lmao, the number of comments on this post is ironic. I've had some pretty fun conversations on lemmy.
kemsat@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Perfectly balanced.
Katana314@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Iāve found itās hard to get any Discord community together where chat messages are less than 60% reposted meme images. Someone will post an interesting thought, and then the next post is a single emote or a cat-related meme with a single word like āUdgeā.
donuts@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
The good thing is that you can choose to ignore the meme, reply to the interesting thought and continue the conversation. Then if you keep the conversation going, it could be made a thread if people are interested in it.
Also a honeypot for memes is helpful so people are less inclined to drop them in general channels
Katana314@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Meme images use more vertical scroll space than text. If just a few people repost the same āneutral expression catā image every so often, it pushes away genuine questions very frequently.
People tend to ignore dedicated-channel rules as well.
dukk@programming.dev · 1 pts · 2y
Thatās what moderation is for!
Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 2y
Yup. Delete the messages and redirect the user. If they get pissy they aren't a fit for the community.
donuts@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Provided the community has clear rules on where to post gifs/memes redirecting the user is fine. Of course it should be a gentle reminder and not feel as if the user is getting berated.
If they still get pissy after that, it's more on the user. A reminder to follow the rules is not a personal attack.
Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 2y
I agree completely.
Katana314@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
I think that's been part of my issue - there's a wealth of bad, or even just "ambivalent" actors, and not enough moderation in a lot of channels.
Plus, while stopping someone from hate speech feels like a clear action for moderation, berating them for things like posting memes in "general" can feel totalitarian. A lot of communities don't commit to that kind of strictness.
donuts@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 2y
So just scroll up? It's not like when a message is off the screen, it's gone forever. Or do you never catch up on messages that you missed while offline and just go in from there?
Katana314@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
OK - now how do I forcibly inject that thought into the minds of the dozens of other people browsing Discord?
GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 2y
Itās getting to be worse than Reddit here. Between the countless memes to scroll through and having your account banned for imaginary rule breaking because now that upvotes/downvotes donāt mean anything, people just report comments they donāt like and mods obligeā¦..
Liz@midwest.social · 1 pts · 2y
It's not like they meant anything before?