Despite our differences in social upbringing, nationality, language, religion, etc... We all agree in 1 thing, that Die Hard is a Christmas Movie, right?
Yippee Kay Yay... (The only movie that doesn't depresses me in Xmas)
My dad was arguing that it wasn't because being set at Christmas isn't enough, and said a bunch of things typical of a Christmas movie to have; while I countered with a list of things that happen in Die Hard that met his criteria.
"Someone needs to receive a gift."
"McClane was gifted a machine gun."
"There needs to be a miracle."
"It's a miracle John survived."
"It needs to capture the feeling of Christmas."
"Have you never spent time with your relatives at Christmas? It feels just like being held hostage at Nakatomi Plaza."
I’m kinda in the same boat. I think Ira is a really talented creator and producer but he’s got that tried to hard theatre kid vibe at times. Like, love him and don’t doubt his sincerity in the slightest but yeah, bit navel gazey.
I think Die Hard 1 & 2 both qualify for Christmas films but the first one is obviously superior for sure.
subtract chrismas from the plot: you have no chrismas party filling a finished floor of the office tower with future hostages; you have no cross-county traveling hero to save-the-day. becomes a six page script and an easy in-and-out for snape and co.
I mean if a movie like It's A Wonderful Life can be a Christmas movie, despite most of it not having anything to do with Christmas, then so can Die Hard.
Every time I watch it I am surprised at how well Xmas and Halloween go together. And mostly because Xmas is sort of a spooky holiday too yet no one ever acknowledges it.
And mostly because Xmas is sort of a spooky holiday too yet no one ever acknowledges it.
A Christmas Carol features four ghosts (six if you're being weirdly technical about the book) and is a very traditional Christmas story people are familiar with.
I just checked torrents and looks like this one isn't a point and click adventure, sorry.
Gonna need to figure out Usenet which typically includes at least 2 paid services, a Usenet provider and an NZB indexer and then a client to download with. not really worth it for a single thing but absolutely pays for itself if you totally replace streaming services.
A provider really is location dependant but I can totally recommend nzbgeek.info as a great indexer.
I'd say they both have equal standing. Diehard couldn't happen. If it wasn't for the corporate Christmas party and Grimlin's because of the poorly thought out, last minute Christmas gift.
Jumping on here, because this is often overlooked. If you didn't know the title of the film, and someone played the first 20 mins to you you'd expect a hallmark film. Going to see the estranged wife, trying to repair a relationship, the awkwardness at the Christmas party.
The whole thing subverts Christmas movie tropes. It's not just an action movie set at Christmas. It's a Christmas movie which gets hijacked.
Even the final scene plays on the parody with the 'snow' falling, the comedy comeuppance for the nuisance bad guy, and then they kiss and drive off as 'let it snow' plays.
No, we agree that “Die Hard is a Christmas movie” is a fun proposition to entertain, either because it’s edgy and freaks the mundanes with its audacious disregard for cherished norms, or (more recently) because it’s a fun meme, with own line of commercially available ugly Christmas sweaters and knowingly ironic greeting cards. Though the meme eventually will become so overexposed that quoting from Die Hard on Christmas will become as basic and mid as dressing up in a Santa costume and drunkenly making an arse of yourself with several hundred similarly attired dudes.
That’s a glib technicality, but not sufficient to make it a “Christmas movie” in the usual sense. The Christmas party is a plot device, and could have been replaced with a different one without significantly altering the plot of the film.
Everyone keeps saying that, but it could be a random party. It's not particularly important that the party is Christmas, the company could be having an Easter celebration or even just a random party for a specific milestone for the company. As far as I remember, there's nothing particular about being Christmas other than the decorations.
Home alone has to be set during Christmas, these are crucial parts of the plot:
The entire block travels at the same time
Houses have decorations, which are used as traps
Houses have lights that turn on at a specific time
It has to be set during winter
So if you could have a different holiday during winter where lots of people decorate their houses to turn on lights at a specific time, then it wouldn't necessarily be a Christmas movie. Otherwise you need to change crucial points of the plot.
Other examples are Jingle all the way or Nightmare before Christmas you can't change the Christmas theme in those movies. I mean, you can but you'll end up with a very different movie. Whereas if you change Christmas on Die Hard for any other party event only the decoration changes, the plot of the movie would be essentially the same.
"If Elf was about a human raised by bunnies and then Buddy helped a family learn the true meaning of Easter it would be an Easter movie! So Elf isn't a Christmas movie."
That's what this argument sounds like to me. You're hyper focusing on one tiny element of the story. Yes, there are not many Christmas parts, but taken together they are sufficient to make a Christmas movie. If the party wasn't Christmas themed you'd still have Christmas themed misic and a movie about a man trying to fix his family (super common Christmas trope).
It's a movie about a man attending a Christmas party in order to patch things up with his wife and spend the holidays among his family. But the only way to do that, and to defeat the greedy villain, is to let go of their pride. And also there's guns and stuff.
It's a Christmas movie in the same way Addams family is a wholesome family. They obviously are, and you only disagree if you're unable to look past the surface.
While I agree that people shouting about it being a Christmas movie is annoying, it definitely is a Christmas movie. It has all the trappings of a Christmas movie and Christmas music is in the score.
This is such an exhausting topic. Anyone saying it isn't a Christmas movie either hasn't seen it recently enough to remember it or they're being contraian. It takes place during Christmas, a Christmas party even. It has Christmas music woven into the soundtrack. The b plot is the main character fixing his marriage (a common theme of Christmas movies is fixing families).
To be honest, I sort of would view people arguing that it isn't a Christmas movie like people arguing Red One isn't a Christmas movie because it is primarily an action movie. Red One is more obvious due to the marketing and the fact it's literally about saving Santa after he is kidnapped, but it's still very moreso an action movie than other similar titles (The Santa Clause also has a kidnapped Santa subplot and a team of elite elves rescue him, but it is much more minor).
To me, Die Hard is a Christmas movie because it is set on Christmas Eve. I don't think it technically counts as a Christmas movie, but that just makes me consider it a Christmas movie even harder
I think its important to establish why it's a Christmas movie. I consider it one not just because it's Christmas time in the movie but because it's heavily Christmas themed the entire movie. For this exact same reason I think other movies also fall into this category like gremlins and terrifier 3.
Diehard is 100% a Christmas movie, however, Die Hard 2 which also takes place at Christmas time, is NOT a Christmas movie, as the fact that it's Christmas is coincidental and not at all integral to the plot.
Christmas being part of the plot is irrelevant - The Wizard of Oz is a Christmas movie. I think what makes Diehard a Christmas movie is simply that people like to watch it at Christmas.
About 75 years of tradition - until the 3 major TV networks lost their dominance it was always on during Christmas season. I don't watch them anymore so I don't know if they still play it.
Every scene in this movie is a work of art. It's so rare for a movie to check as many boxes as this one does so perfectly. it has humor, a love story, action, Alan Rickman, a heist, and most of all Christmas!
Happy holidays everyone! Hoping you can all get together and have a few laughs with your loved ones.
I don't wanna be the party pooper here, but Die Hard is a specifically American Christmas Movie. I'm not saying that other people can't or shouldn't enjoy it as a Christmas Movie if so inclined.
But as a German what we "traditionally" watch as Christmas Movies/Shows is something completely different (though also varying greatly from region to region and family to family.
I for one still enjoy "Weihnachten bei den Hoppenstedts" a lot my father mostly insists on seeing "Familie Heinz Becker feiert Weihnachten".
A movie a lot of people consider to be a Christmas Movie as far as I can tell is "Drei Haselnüsse für Aschenbrödel".
Again I'm not saying that people can't consider "American" Christmas Movies as their own or make them their traditions a friend of mine insists that "In Bruges" is the ultimate Christmas Movie. I just think saying "We all agree" is making it to simple
Edit: Read some more comments and maybe I misunderstood the premise. I'm not saying "Die Hard is not a Christmas Movie" what I'm trying to say is "Christmas Movies are what people make their Christmas Movie regardless of if they are Christmas-y" if I started watching Shrek at every Christmas it would be my Christmas Movie. But I feel what OP wanted to say was "There are Movies that are considered Christmas Movies because of the content and Die Hard should be considered one of them".
I think the joke is that Die Hard obviously isn't a traditional Christmas movie. But the story is literally set at Christmas. Many people like Die Hard more than traditional Christmas movies, so when their family members start voting om which Christmas movie to watch this year, they steadfastly nominate Die Hard with the argument that "it really is a Christmas movie, the internet agrees"
I find the topic exhausting because Did Hard is obviously a Christmas themed action movie (and I believe that qualifies as a Christmas movie), but everyone really making a stand about it is sort of being cringe. I don't really know how to explain it. It's like they're acting like it's so wild and crazy to say, like they've found some weird loop hole. I think it's this weird tone of the discussion that leads to the pushback. Because, while it's definitely a Christmas movie, it's not like super Christmas-y. The Christmas aspects could easily be edited out and the movie would still make sense.
Yeah but IMO those trappings don't make it a Christmas movie. Die Hard is an action movie people like to watch around Christmas, which is all a movie needs to make it a Christmas movie. I mean there's porn that features Santa's naughty elves, but nobody watches it to get into the Christmas spirit.
You might not, but it doesn't mean other people don't. Elf is a Christmas themed family movie the same way Die Hard is a Christmas themed action movie.
Saying that first line as someone who has written some holiday themed smut before.
There is definitely a demand for such movies on Christmas, otherwise a movie like Fatman wouldn't have been produced. It's a Christmas movie with Die Hard elements.
If the only thing a Christmas movie takes is being set on or around Christmas, Batman Returns and Eyes Wide Shut are Christmas movies. Oppenheimer has a Christmas scene, is that a Christmas movie too? Clearly there's a line somewhere.
That's not the only reason, it literally is about a family man trying to reconcile with his family for Xmas, there's a Grinch trying to ruin the party, a Xmas miracle, let it snow, let it snow, let it snow. It's Christmas Theo.
The set up for the plot is that everyone is at a holiday party, in addition the cops were slow to respond because of the holiday (Hans Gruber planned for this). Without xmas, the date of the attack would have been different and a special someone whould not have been in the building either.
I used to think it was just a movie that happened during Christmas, but it wasn't a Christmas movie. I changed my mind when it was pointed out that the movie wouldn't have happened if it wasn't Christmas. He was visiting his family for Christmas. It's not a typical Christmas movie, but it is a Christmas movie.
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Kolanaki@yiffit.net · 52 pts · 1y
My dad was arguing that it wasn't because being set at Christmas isn't enough, and said a bunch of things typical of a Christmas movie to have; while I countered with a list of things that happen in Die Hard that met his criteria.
"Someone needs to receive a gift."
"McClane was gifted a machine gun."
"There needs to be a miracle."
"It's a miracle John survived."
"It needs to capture the feeling of Christmas."
"Have you never spent time with your relatives at Christmas? It feels just like being held hostage at Nakatomi Plaza."
JustZ@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
Haha this is very funny.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Plus, he gets his wife (and kids, by extension) back at the end.
nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 43 pts · 1y
EleventhHour@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 1y
Even Plex agrees:
kamenlady@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
What We Left Behind made me feel idk. I loved seeing everyone again and some of the background info, but part of me wants to forget i ever saw it.
I don't know why, i love DS9. My next rewatch would be the 9th.
I was hyped for the documentary and couldn't wait to get to see it.
Missed Sisko.
Edit: on topic, i think Die Hard is Santa's favorite christmas movie - but really only the first one.
Lemjukes@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y
I’m kinda in the same boat. I think Ira is a really talented creator and producer but he’s got that tried to hard theatre kid vibe at times. Like, love him and don’t doubt his sincerity in the slightest but yeah, bit navel gazey.
I think Die Hard 1 & 2 both qualify for Christmas films but the first one is obviously superior for sure.
adarza@lemmy.ca · 27 pts · 1y
subtract chrismas from the plot: you have no chrismas party filling a finished floor of the office tower with future hostages; you have no cross-county traveling hero to save-the-day. becomes a six page script and an easy in-and-out for snape and co.
altima_neo@lemmy.zip · 27 pts · 1y
I mean if a movie like It's A Wonderful Life can be a Christmas movie, despite most of it not having anything to do with Christmas, then so can Die Hard.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 23 pts · 1y
Gremlins is also a Christmas movie.
So is Mortal Kombat from the 90s. It’s all about people fighting to be number 1. Just like Christmas shopping.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 1y
Nomecks@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 1y
It's a thanksgiving movie because it's got halloween and xmas in it.
rezz@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
Regression to the mean.
makyo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Every time I watch it I am surprised at how well Xmas and Halloween go together. And mostly because Xmas is sort of a spooky holiday too yet no one ever acknowledges it.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y
A Christmas Carol features four ghosts (six if you're being weirdly technical about the book) and is a very traditional Christmas story people are familiar with.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
OCT 31 = DEC 25.
thesohoriots@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1y
The real Xmas movie is Eyes Wide Shut
metaStatic@kbin.earth · 9 pts · 1y
You NEED to download the 35mm scan.
Fucking distributors did Stanley dirty cleaning it up for release. It was under exposed and overdeveloped on purpose to make the film grain pop.
rezz@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
What’s the best way to sail the seas for this?
metaStatic@kbin.earth · 4 pts · 1y
I just checked torrents and looks like this one isn't a point and click adventure, sorry.
Gonna need to figure out Usenet which typically includes at least 2 paid services, a Usenet provider and an NZB indexer and then a client to download with. not really worth it for a single thing but absolutely pays for itself if you totally replace streaming services.
A provider really is location dependant but I can totally recommend nzbgeek.info as a great indexer.
rezz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I have Usenet so that is a good lead, thanks.
Platypus@lemmings.world · 1 pts · 1y
Arrrgh
Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 1y
Here's the only release I could find if the name helps:
Eyes.Wide.Shut.1999.UHD.35mmITScan.v2.1080p.DDP.5.1.x265-SM737
It's a very dusty scan and the audio doesn't work on some of my devices but the exposure does look better.
rezz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Found it, thanks so much.
Very low GB file though. Hope it's good.
Bashnagdul@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1y
There are 2 kinds of people, those who say die hard is a Christmas movie, and those who are wrong.
JustZ@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I just think it's a nondenominational winter season celebration movie.
Bashnagdul@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
You do realize this makes you wrong?
ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1y
No and I'm tired of people pretending it is. Now, Gremlins on the other hand.
Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1y
I'd say they both have equal standing. Diehard couldn't happen. If it wasn't for the corporate Christmas party and Grimlin's because of the poorly thought out, last minute Christmas gift.
Sergio@slrpnk.net · 16 pts · 1y
Why Die Hard is a Christmas Movie:
Susaga@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y
Also, it's about a man attending a party in order to fix his family, and he needs to learn to let go of his pride. Classic Christmas movie message.
rwtwm@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 1y
Jumping on here, because this is often overlooked. If you didn't know the title of the film, and someone played the first 20 mins to you you'd expect a hallmark film. Going to see the estranged wife, trying to repair a relationship, the awkwardness at the Christmas party.
The whole thing subverts Christmas movie tropes. It's not just an action movie set at Christmas. It's a Christmas movie which gets hijacked.
Even the final scene plays on the parody with the 'snow' falling, the comedy comeuppance for the nuisance bad guy, and then they kiss and drive off as 'let it snow' plays.
Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 1y
If only there were Lemmy gold...
The best I can do is the ol' feddit.uk handjob. Handshake, I meant handshake!
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 2 pts · 1y
Real reasons:
chillinit@lemmynsfw.com · 15 pts · 1y
The last thing it seemed like many perceived they had in common was Tiger King.
Now it's support for murder as a necessary means of change.
This is progress.
Yippee Kai Yay, motherfucker.
Isoprenoid@programming.dev · 2 pts · 1y
Violence wasn't necessary, it was the only means available. If those in power want to peacefully negotiate, then they must make it possible.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
chillinit@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 1y
Right. The alternative to murder is to be murdered indirectly.
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com · 13 pts · 1y
In the same way that tomatoes are fruit and bananas are berries.
sik0fewl@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 1y
Technically correct. The best kind of correct.
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 12 pts · 1y
No, we agree that “Die Hard is a Christmas movie” is a fun proposition to entertain, either because it’s edgy and freaks the mundanes with its audacious disregard for cherished norms, or (more recently) because it’s a fun meme, with own line of commercially available ugly Christmas sweaters and knowingly ironic greeting cards. Though the meme eventually will become so overexposed that quoting from Die Hard on Christmas will become as basic and mid as dressing up in a Santa costume and drunkenly making an arse of yourself with several hundred similarly attired dudes.
Sc00ter@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y
It is literally set at a christmas party. Without christmas, that movie doesnt happen
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 5 pts · 1y
That’s a glib technicality, but not sufficient to make it a “Christmas movie” in the usual sense. The Christmas party is a plot device, and could have been replaced with a different one without significantly altering the plot of the film.
lobut@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 1y
The Muppets Christmas Carol is my favourite Christmas movie.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 1y
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y
THE GOOSE 🗣️🗣️🗣️
frazorth@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 1y
I'm in the UK and the premiere was on the 27th November.
It certainly was aimed as a Christmas movie for a lot of the world.
Nibodhika@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Everyone keeps saying that, but it could be a random party. It's not particularly important that the party is Christmas, the company could be having an Easter celebration or even just a random party for a specific milestone for the company. As far as I remember, there's nothing particular about being Christmas other than the decorations.
Sc00ter@lemm.ee · 3 pts · 1y
Thats a pretty thin argument. "If you replace this part of the movie, it could be completely different!"
Is home alone not a christmas movie because they also could have taken any vacation and left their kid at home?
Nibodhika@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Home alone has to be set during Christmas, these are crucial parts of the plot:
So if you could have a different holiday during winter where lots of people decorate their houses to turn on lights at a specific time, then it wouldn't necessarily be a Christmas movie. Otherwise you need to change crucial points of the plot.
Other examples are Jingle all the way or Nightmare before Christmas you can't change the Christmas theme in those movies. I mean, you can but you'll end up with a very different movie. Whereas if you change Christmas on Die Hard for any other party event only the decoration changes, the plot of the movie would be essentially the same.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y
"If Elf was about a human raised by bunnies and then Buddy helped a family learn the true meaning of Easter it would be an Easter movie! So Elf isn't a Christmas movie."
That's what this argument sounds like to me. You're hyper focusing on one tiny element of the story. Yes, there are not many Christmas parts, but taken together they are sufficient to make a Christmas movie. If the party wasn't Christmas themed you'd still have Christmas themed misic and a movie about a man trying to fix his family (super common Christmas trope).
can@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
Leaia is a Disney Princess.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 1y
I like to pretend that John McClane is Santa trying to get gifts to the hostages.
Susaga@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 1y
It's a movie about a man attending a Christmas party in order to patch things up with his wife and spend the holidays among his family. But the only way to do that, and to defeat the greedy villain, is to let go of their pride. And also there's guns and stuff.
It's a Christmas movie in the same way Addams family is a wholesome family. They obviously are, and you only disagree if you're unable to look past the surface.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y
While I agree that people shouting about it being a Christmas movie is annoying, it definitely is a Christmas movie. It has all the trappings of a Christmas movie and Christmas music is in the score.
BOFH666@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y
Hell yeah! Of course, best Christmas movie ever. Multicasting it over the corporate network since last Monday and won't kill the process before 2025!
now i've got a machine gun ho ho ho!
Jackthelad@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
don@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
Correct answer. The rest die hard.
yesman@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
Haters will say this is fake:
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 9 pts · 1y
This is such an exhausting topic. Anyone saying it isn't a Christmas movie either hasn't seen it recently enough to remember it or they're being contraian. It takes place during Christmas, a Christmas party even. It has Christmas music woven into the soundtrack. The b plot is the main character fixing his marriage (a common theme of Christmas movies is fixing families).
To be honest, I sort of would view people arguing that it isn't a Christmas movie like people arguing Red One isn't a Christmas movie because it is primarily an action movie. Red One is more obvious due to the marketing and the fact it's literally about saving Santa after he is kidnapped, but it's still very moreso an action movie than other similar titles (The Santa Clause also has a kidnapped Santa subplot and a team of elite elves rescue him, but it is much more minor).
Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 1y
One of my friends had this take on it:
metaStatic@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 1y
sad muted jazz noises
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y
https://open.spotify.com/track/3Y9tu0vssINKFcA90JiLHb
dditty@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 1y
To me, Die Hard is a Christmas movie because it is set on Christmas Eve. I don't think it technically counts as a Christmas movie, but that just makes me consider it a Christmas movie even harder
Platypus@lemmings.world · 2 pts · 1y
Christmas Movie 2: Xmas Harder
dditty@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
LifeOfChance@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
I think its important to establish why it's a Christmas movie. I consider it one not just because it's Christmas time in the movie but because it's heavily Christmas themed the entire movie. For this exact same reason I think other movies also fall into this category like gremlins and terrifier 3.
Etterra@discuss.online · 8 pts · 1y
So is Gremlins.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y
Yesss, I always forget that one! Have you seen Gremlins 2?
qevlarr@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Every movie that's set during Christmas is a Christmas movie. I'm watching Eyes Wide Shut with my wife tonight
Platypus@lemmings.world · 1 pts · 1y
And then?
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y
😎👍 sex
Sergio@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 1y
"Fidelio"
ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 1y
Diehard is 100% a Christmas movie, however, Die Hard 2 which also takes place at Christmas time, is NOT a Christmas movie, as the fact that it's Christmas is coincidental and not at all integral to the plot.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 1y
Christmas being part of the plot is irrelevant - The Wizard of Oz is a Christmas movie. I think what makes Diehard a Christmas movie is simply that people like to watch it at Christmas.
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Who says the Wizard of Oz is a Christmas movie?
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
About 75 years of tradition - until the 3 major TV networks lost their dominance it was always on during Christmas season. I don't watch them anymore so I don't know if they still play it.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 2 pts · 1y
Oh, hard disagree, I don't believe playing a movie at Christmas time is what makes a movie a Christmas movie.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 1y
My wife claims
Yet
She's so gorgeous but sometimes I just don't understand her.
mrnarwall@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
It's about a man at a Christmas party that has gone incredibly wrong. It's a Christmas movie
SuspiciousCatThing@pawb.social · 5 pts · 1y
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 1y
Die Hard, the grade school musical?
FinishingDutch@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Absolutely. There can be zero disagreement on this.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y
Bruce thinks it’s a Bruce Willis movie.
… he gets a pass.
mrslt@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Well, yeah. What else would it be?
shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y
Yes, along with the dress being blue.
kaos@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 1y
I thought this was a closed deal? Of course it is a Christmas movie.
normalexit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Every scene in this movie is a work of art. It's so rare for a movie to check as many boxes as this one does so perfectly. it has humor, a love story, action, Alan Rickman, a heist, and most of all Christmas!
Happy holidays everyone! Hoping you can all get together and have a few laughs with your loved ones.
darreninthenet@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 1y
Astonishingly, that was also Rickman's movie debut
Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
No.
That's like saying Flight Club is a movie about soap.
somenonewho@feddit.org · 4 pts · 1y
I don't wanna be the party pooper here, but Die Hard is a specifically American Christmas Movie. I'm not saying that other people can't or shouldn't enjoy it as a Christmas Movie if so inclined.
But as a German what we "traditionally" watch as Christmas Movies/Shows is something completely different (though also varying greatly from region to region and family to family. I for one still enjoy "Weihnachten bei den Hoppenstedts" a lot my father mostly insists on seeing "Familie Heinz Becker feiert Weihnachten". A movie a lot of people consider to be a Christmas Movie as far as I can tell is "Drei Haselnüsse für Aschenbrödel".
Again I'm not saying that people can't consider "American" Christmas Movies as their own or make them their traditions a friend of mine insists that "In Bruges" is the ultimate Christmas Movie. I just think saying "We all agree" is making it to simple
Edit: Read some more comments and maybe I misunderstood the premise. I'm not saying "Die Hard is not a Christmas Movie" what I'm trying to say is "Christmas Movies are what people make their Christmas Movie regardless of if they are Christmas-y" if I started watching Shrek at every Christmas it would be my Christmas Movie. But I feel what OP wanted to say was "There are Movies that are considered Christmas Movies because of the content and Die Hard should be considered one of them".
abbadon420@lemm.ee · 4 pts · 1y
I think the joke is that Die Hard obviously isn't a traditional Christmas movie. But the story is literally set at Christmas. Many people like Die Hard more than traditional Christmas movies, so when their family members start voting om which Christmas movie to watch this year, they steadfastly nominate Die Hard with the argument that "it really is a Christmas movie, the internet agrees"
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y
It's more Christmasey than you may remember, when is the last time you watched it?
jimmy90@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
...melon farmer.
heck yeah, it's a christmas film. the whole thing is based around a christmas party and is all about love
Smoogs@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
In as much as home alone and Batman is a Christmas movie.
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Yes, and so are The Long Kiss Goodnight and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
Guitarfun@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Die Hard is awesome, but I've always liked The Ref too.
Psythik@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Do we really have to do this every year?
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80DkVuBgnSo
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 2 pts · 1y
I find the topic exhausting because Did Hard is obviously a Christmas themed action movie (and I believe that qualifies as a Christmas movie), but everyone really making a stand about it is sort of being cringe. I don't really know how to explain it. It's like they're acting like it's so wild and crazy to say, like they've found some weird loop hole. I think it's this weird tone of the discussion that leads to the pushback. Because, while it's definitely a Christmas movie, it's not like super Christmas-y. The Christmas aspects could easily be edited out and the movie would still make sense.
abbadon420@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
Yes, that's what Christmas is for.
lime@feddit.nu · 3 pts · 1y
the best classifier i've heard is "christmas movies are movies you would feel weird watching any other time of the year".
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Yippee kayak other buckets
TastyWheat@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
I remember the 90's TV censored edit was "Yippee Ki Ay, Melon Farmer!"
LongboardingLad@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
The most recent time I watched the TV version it was, "Yippee Ki-yay, my friend".
T00l_shed@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I was doing the B99 version
dutchkimble@lemy.lol · 3 pts · 1y
Indeed. It’s perhaps the only Christmas movie.
eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 1y
Yes it is. Just like how The Shawshank Redemption is an after New Year's movie.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Technically it is set during Christmas, but it's not about Christmas. But a movie tons of people like to watch at Christmastime is a Christmas movie.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y
It has Christmas music in the soundtrack, the b plot is about family mending, and it takes place during a Christmas party.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Yeah but IMO those trappings don't make it a Christmas movie. Die Hard is an action movie people like to watch around Christmas, which is all a movie needs to make it a Christmas movie. I mean there's porn that features Santa's naughty elves, but nobody watches it to get into the Christmas spirit.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y
You might not, but it doesn't mean other people don't. Elf is a Christmas themed family movie the same way Die Hard is a Christmas themed action movie.
Saying that first line as someone who has written some holiday themed smut before.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Some conversations are people just saying what they think and not offering airtight, irrefutable proofs.
odelik@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 1y
Die Hard is not a Christmas movie!
Die Hard is a Christmas Eve movie.
/s
Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 1y
Since we can all agree that "The Wrong Trousers" is the best Christmas film, I think that "Die Hard" is a Christmas film is a no brainer.
The Straight Lads need a film they can be emotional, bond over, and feel festive joy.
NastyNative@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 1y
The best christmas movie!
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y
Yes - but more importantly, I am so happy reading the rest of the comments here: I've truly found my people.
nokturne213@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 1y
👎
Free_Opinions@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 1y
I'm not sure if I have ever even seen it fully
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
There is definitely a demand for such movies on Christmas, otherwise a movie like Fatman wouldn't have been produced. It's a Christmas movie with Die Hard elements.
don@lemm.ee · 1 pts · 1y
No, we all do not.
Professorozone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Hell yeah!
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org · 1 pts · 1y
Duh. It's the best Christmas movie too.
theherk@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I mean… Christmas Vacation?
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub · 0 pts · 1y
Edit: not sure I've ever been downvoted for agreeing with the main question hahahaha classic
Stern@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
If the only thing a Christmas movie takes is being set on or around Christmas, Batman Returns and Eyes Wide Shut are Christmas movies. Oppenheimer has a Christmas scene, is that a Christmas movie too? Clearly there's a line somewhere.
Platypus@lemmings.world · 4 pts · 1y
That's not the only reason, it literally is about a family man trying to reconcile with his family for Xmas, there's a Grinch trying to ruin the party, a Xmas miracle, let it snow, let it snow, let it snow. It's Christmas Theo.
Stern@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Counterpoint: It's about using incredibly limited resources to defend a tower from invaders. It's a Hanukkah movie.
AWittyUsername@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Mean girls... Christmas movie.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com · 0 pts · 1y
What are we agreeing in?
feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
Not really.
viking@infosec.pub · 0 pts · 1y
Never understood where that came from. Definitely not a Christmas movie for me.
Bahnd@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
The set up for the plot is that everyone is at a holiday party, in addition the cops were slow to respond because of the holiday (Hans Gruber planned for this). Without xmas, the date of the attack would have been different and a special someone whould not have been in the building either.
viking@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 1y
Sure, but just because a movie happens to play around Christmas time doesn't really make it a Christmas movie.
Platypus@lemmings.world · 1 pts · 1y
The whole McClaine takedown of the terrorist is a Xmas miracle
LastoftheDinosaurs@reddthat.com · 0 pts · 1y
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · 0 pts · 1y
No, because I have never watched it.
BigLime@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 1y
Bruce Willis would disagree
Platypus@lemmings.world · 6 pts · 1y
Bruce is senile, can't be trusted
WrenFeathers@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 1y
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 1y
If the b plot wasn't family reconciliation I'd agree.
over_clox@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 1y
Okay, step away from the crack pipe, and nobody gets hurt.
Matombo@feddit.org · -8 pts · 1y
no it's not
you 'muricans are wierd
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 1y
Yes, it is.
I used to think it was just a movie that happened during Christmas, but it wasn't a Christmas movie. I changed my mind when it was pointed out that the movie wouldn't have happened if it wasn't Christmas. He was visiting his family for Christmas. It's not a typical Christmas movie, but it is a Christmas movie.
My $.02
Platypus@lemmings.world · 1 pts · 1y
Who said we are
terroristsjust Americans here?