Maces were great for abusing the peasants and hammering on knights.
War hammers were god damned crimes. Because the focused blunt end of the hammer can REALLY cause some serious damage. But also? The back is a pick. So you don't even need to dent the armor and cause bruising. You just pierce a brain on the backhand.
Which is why the lucerne hammer (bec de corbin above) was the best anti-armor weapon out there. A polearm that can fuck you up three different ways.
I'm not someone who's actually studied medieval combat, but as I understand it while a war hammer was a better weapon than a mace it was also more complicated to use. You've actually got to aim and align your strikes, while a mace is just "swing the pointy bits at the guy you want dead."
If you want any degree of force in your swing you are already "aiming and aligning" anything. Its the difference between wailing and actually throwing a punch. A schoolkid throwing a swing might bloody a nose but is probably going to hurt them as much as their target. Someone who knows how to properly make a fist and put their body into it? You don't need much strength to fuck someone up.
So, theoretically, you could still do a decent amount of damage on an unarmored civilian using something like a morningstar. But that is almost entirely the spikes.
If you wanted any hope of causing meaningful damage to an armored opponent or even an unarmored combatant with their adrenaline pumping? You needed to know how to swing your weapon whether it was a mace, a hammer, or a sword. And as long as you hold the weapon correctly, you get hitting them with the fun bit "for free".
I think war hammer gives you the most versatility as a weapon, and flanged mace is my favorite for style, but my heart belongs to the quarterstaff, as it long has. Defense and offense and its a big stick!
Mace and/or quarterstaff are my preference. Simple, not a lot to go wrong or get caught on things. Light enough to get multiple hits in quick succession.
If you want blunt-ish, try the Lucerne hammer. The pronged hammer could penetrate plate armour without getting stuck, and its length made it better for spearing than the bec de corbin.
I like the quarterstaff, but you know what would make it even better? If you took a sharp piece of metal and put it on one end so you can stab a dude after bonking him. I don't know what you'd call it though. A staffstab?
59 Comments
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 1y
Idk, I kinda like the candle stick/coat rack
SteveNashFan@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Roundhouse kick for the win
kitnaht@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 1y
I mean, it's obviously the flanged mace. It's the only one that purely serves its purpose as a weapon and not simply a meat tenderizer or hammer.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip · 24 pts · 1y
Maces were great for abusing the peasants and hammering on knights.
War hammers were god damned crimes. Because the focused blunt end of the hammer can REALLY cause some serious damage. But also? The back is a pick. So you don't even need to dent the armor and cause bruising. You just pierce a brain on the backhand.
Which is why the lucerne hammer (bec de corbin above) was the best anti-armor weapon out there. A polearm that can fuck you up three different ways.
Sludgehammer@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
I'm not someone who's actually studied medieval combat, but as I understand it while a war hammer was a better weapon than a mace it was also more complicated to use. You've actually got to aim and align your strikes, while a mace is just "swing the pointy bits at the guy you want dead."
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 1y
If you want any degree of force in your swing you are already "aiming and aligning" anything. Its the difference between wailing and actually throwing a punch. A schoolkid throwing a swing might bloody a nose but is probably going to hurt them as much as their target. Someone who knows how to properly make a fist and put their body into it? You don't need much strength to fuck someone up.
So, theoretically, you could still do a decent amount of damage on an unarmored civilian using something like a morningstar. But that is almost entirely the spikes.
If you wanted any hope of causing meaningful damage to an armored opponent or even an unarmored combatant with their adrenaline pumping? You needed to know how to swing your weapon whether it was a mace, a hammer, or a sword. And as long as you hold the weapon correctly, you get hitting them with the fun bit "for free".
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
I never tried tenderizing meat with a flail before, but it really works! 10/10. I recommend it
lowleveldata@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 1y
Quarterstaff. Long things hit hard.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 1y
flanged mace 100% but I am also not disinterested in bec de corbin
exu@feditown.com · 15 pts · 1y
Re: Bac de Corbin, what's the minimum percentage of bluntness to count as a blunt weapon?
iAvicenna@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
at least the hammer side qualifies
Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 1y
All of the bottom ones except the quarterstaff are more piercing weapons with extra weight
TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y
PugJesus@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1y
Goedendag!
Dagnet@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Good day to you too
dreugeworst@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 1y
was about to complain this wasn't an option. thanks for doing the lord's work
Bosht@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Aka 'pointy stick'
over_clox@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y
It hardly matters, just as long as it's rusty and pointy...
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 1y
How you gonna do the Shillelagh this dirty?
Sibshops@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 1y
Quarterstaff, personally. It can double as a walking stick.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 10 pts · 1y
Actually it's a buck-and-a-quarter quarterstaff, but I'm not tellin' him that.
Tangent5280@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Staffs are deceptively heavy.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 10 pts · 1y
I love flails.
But I would also take a Bec De Corbin Dallas, Multipass.
TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee · 9 pts · 1y
Mine's whatever Hawkgirl uses.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 1y
Double-sided tape?
Kalothar@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 1y
Morningstar with magic disruption
Tanuki@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 1y
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y
I'm very confident that I would injure myself with a flail.
codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 1y
I think war hammer gives you the most versatility as a weapon, and flanged mace is my favorite for style, but my heart belongs to the quarterstaff, as it long has. Defense and offense and its a big stick!
baldingpudenda@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Tired of defending attacks and counter attacking at slight range? Use it as a walking stick!
smeg@feddit.uk · 9 pts · 1y
Flail. Specifically the Witch-King's ludicrously large one.
jabathekek@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 1y
Ravens Beak ofc (bec de corbin)
Thcdenton@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Cudgel [BONK]
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 1y
Mace and/or quarterstaff are my preference. Simple, not a lot to go wrong or get caught on things. Light enough to get multiple hits in quick succession.
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Simple mace is the easy answer. It's lighter than the quarterstaff, and the skill transfer from baseball and pillow fights is fairly direct.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Definitely the simple mace over the flanged. Its more or less just a baton with a weight at the end.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 1y
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Morningstar. Based entirely off of the (incorrectly) named macemen in Lords Of The Realm 2.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
Dude, you need a better mic. Thought you said to bring the flared base and I was expecting a completely different kind of party.
LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 1y
I've always been a flail kinda person
Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 1y
Halberds combine the benefits of an axe and a spear. Best of both world
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Not blunt though.
It is the best otherwise!
goldteeth@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1y
Any weapon can be a blunt weapon if you're holding it wrong
rtxn@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
If you want blunt-ish, try the Lucerne hammer. The pronged hammer could penetrate plate armour without getting stuck, and its length made it better for spearing than the bec de corbin.
SplashJackson@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 1y
mace, straight up, no worrying about getting it stuck in someone's face like a morningstar
AAA@feddit.org · 1 pts · 1y
Right there with you. Nothing compares to blunt force.
The_Caretaker@lemm.ee · 6 pts · 1y
SadSadSatellite@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 1y
Well the flanged mace is objectively the best one if we're going to ignore the Lucerne.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
At least half of those are not blunt
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
Ok, but I did have this exact conversation with my kids last week. Mace and morningstar were the winners; I'm partial to a war hammer, myself.
Kualdir@feddit.nl · 5 pts · 1y
Flanged mace any day of the week
BodilessGaze@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y
I like the quarterstaff, but you know what would make it even better? If you took a sharp piece of metal and put it on one end so you can stab a dude after bonking him. I don't know what you'd call it though. A staffstab?
Agent641@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y
That stabstaff should be really handy for spearing people.
leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1y
All I see are props for black metal album covers.
Sanctus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Flail, Rooneyscoop has wholly influenced this.
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Which one will kill me faster?
Wahots@pawb.social · 3 pts · 1y
Maul, or flanged mace
Vrijgezelopkamers@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
No goedendag? Pffff!
itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1y
I'm partial to polearms, and the bec de corbin has always been a favorite. Quarterstaff is nice as well, although I prefer them with less decorations
caboose2006@lemm.ee · 2 pts · 1y
Keep it simple for me. Cudgel or spiked club.
boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I like a good mail. It's right there in the name. Says what it does right on the label.
Soup@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Maul?
CheeryLBottom@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Weird, flanged mace is mine too. Must be a D&D thing
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 1y