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bacon_pdp@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 1y (8 replies)
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slingstone@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 1y (6 replies)

Kirk fought literal Nazis. Sheridan fought future Nazis. Why did you get downvoted for this comment?

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 47 pts · 1y

Obviously for bringing politics into a discussion about my beloved politics show

teft@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Probably Dukat's account downvoted.

HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 15 pts · 1y

He's probably still salty he didn't get his statue on Bajor.

wise_pancake@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 1y (2 replies)

Don’t forget Archer fighting literal Nazis

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 14 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I think Archer and his crew were the only ones who fought literal Nazis. Everyone else was fighting some other organization that had just adopted some of their philosophies.

slingstone@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y

Well, I guess the Nazis Kirk fought weren't humans from Earth from the 20th century, but I recall they wore exactly the same uniforms and had the same symbology.

GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

This was one of the shows that taught me what it looks like and why I should fight like my life depends on it.

JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 49 pts · 1y

"Mom, can we get some Babylon 5?"

Mom:

VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 1y (6 replies)

G'Kar was the wrong character to show for the prosthetics poke. The Narn prosthetics are actually shockingly good with a surprisingly high degree of articulation allowing for lots of emoting and facial expressions. Some of Delenn's head bone prosthetics, on the other hand, are just terrible.

Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Optic Nerve won a damn Emmy for their prosthetic work on B5, not sure what op's on about with that one...

Taleya@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 1y

Shoulda gone meta with the drazi and the human mask

GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y

Given the budget that Fox gave them to film this, I'm not going to whine about it when I've watched community theater productions and enjoyed them. If the visual realism is a hard sticking point, then unfortunately, you just kinda have to sigh and live with it. Enjoy the story, and maybe try making fandom cosplay and give it a try for yourself.

That isn't a dig, btw. Being able to make costumes of similar (but lesser) quality made me appreciate the hard work that goes into this more. And being involved in it helped me learn willfull suspension of disbelief. Or course you can see the seams in the costume. The actor is ignoring them and doing their damn best for a good script. I think that effort deserves a little grace.

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 0 pts · 1y (2 replies)

G'Kar can't even turn his neck. Reminds me of how the Cardassian prosthetics pull me out of the realism and make me painfully aware that I am watching TV.

dariusj18@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Why must an alien species have developed the ability to turn their head?

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · -3 pts · 1y

That's just a guess as to one reason why these types of alien prosthetics are so immersion-breaking

TotallyNotSpezUpload@startrek.website · 35 pts · 1y
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TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 1y (2 replies)

When I think of Walter Koenig, I think of Bester, not Chekov.

To be blunt, whenever I watched Trek I never got the impression he was particularly good. But then when I saw him in B5, I thought "Damn he can act. Why didn't the Trek show runners take advantage of this?!"

MintyAnt@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y

Bester is also still a unique character, and Koenigs delivery is unique.

GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y

Bester was supposed to be a one-off villain! They brought him back because he was amazing!

teft@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 1y

It has been a while since my last rewatch.

It was the dawn of the third age of mankind – ten years after my last rewatch.

Draegur@lemm.ee · 21 pts · 1y (8 replies)

See, that was their problem. Their last best hope for peace was a truck stop? That is not where you get peace. That is where you get the opposite of peace. They could have only done worse if it were a space waffle house.

teft@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 1y

last best hope for peace was a truck stop

Picture I found of Babylon-5:

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 19 pts · 1y

To be fair, while "truck stop" is a fairly accurate term for DS9 and its location along a major trade route, the primary purpose of Babylon 5 was really just being a neutral location for political relations and whatnot. Though maybe there are important meetings that are conducted at Waffle House, idk

OpenStars@piefed.social · 12 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Tbf their first attempt resulted in the near extinction of humanity...

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Taleya@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y

Recently did another marathon but this time in in-universe chronological order and goddamn, late delivery from Avalon hits so much harder (delenn's reaction) if you watched In the Beginning first

Apeman42@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y (1 reply)

space waffle house

Stop everything else, this is the show I want. Let's see a strung out avian fist fighting a drunk grey across the counter, while a little green man twerks in the background.

OpenStars@piefed.social · 4 pts · 1y

Okay yeah but... that sounds like a lotta work.

So here's Homer Simpson eating a waffle, wrapped around a stick of butter. Bonus: it's fried:-P

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Taleya@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Ds9 was a truck stop, the babylon stations were UN convention centres with bazaars did you even watch the show

Draegur@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y

The Centauri: "You call this a convention center? I would not host my second cousin's baby shower here; it stinks of commoners."

(which is to say, i watched it two decades ago)

GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 1y (3 replies)

Came for the interspecies sex, stayed for the drug addicts.

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 22 pts · 1y (1 reply)

I don't have a stim problem. They're legal. I have it under control.

AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y

RIP Garibaldi

GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y

Dude, the way that show handled not one but two addiction arcs. In the 90s.

HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club · 19 pts · 1y (12 replies)

You had me at "20th century understanding on how eye contact works in a video call".

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 15 pts · 1y

That is something that has bugged me since I started watching sci-fi (yes, I am relatively new to the genre), and I don't think I have ever seen anybody talk about it.

Sir_Gkar@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y (1 reply)

One of the wonderful little details from B5 was the holographic recording Londo made for [REDACTED] where he's making his grand speech about how and why he's having him [REDACTED]. The recording is constantly looking in the wrong direction, pointing accusingly at the wall, moving through people, and just obviously not lining up with the room it's being played in because it's just a recording.

Then the gospel choir kicks in and the episode officially becomes my all time favorite.

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 8 pts · 1y

An account created three months ago, named after a Babylon 5 character, and your very first comment is under this post about Babylon 5. Checks out.

mmddmm@lemm.ee · 5 pts · 1y (7 replies)

Star Wars is so much worse on that than anything Trek-like... so much that some times people mention it. But yeah, I've never seen anybody mention it about Star Trek or B5.

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 11 pts · 1y (4 replies)

I assume the logistics are entirely different with a hologram compared to a 2D viewscreen. Or are there viewscreens in Star Wars as well?

EDIT: Oh, this question probably does a good job summarizing the type of inconsistencies you are talking about

https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/108609/how-do-star-wars-hologram-communications-work

Starting at 2:46 in Clones Wars season 2 episode 7 we see both ends of a hologram communication. I've always wondered how people somehow manage to maintain eye contact while using holograms to communicate since often, as in this case, each are viewing images of the other that greatly vary in size. Obi-wan Kenobi and Ki-Adi-Mundi are in a large room looking down on a 2-3 foot image of Luminara Unduli.

Master Unduli however is holding a mobile jedi holoprojector looking down at 1 foot images of Kenobi and Mundi.

How can they both be looking down at projections less than half the height of an average humanoid while still maintaining eye contact with the person on the other end?

Stranger still, at 3:16 when Anakin Skywalker enters the room, joining the other two Jedi, we see the 2-3 foot image of Unduli in the center of the room turn her entire body about 90 degrees to face Skywalker.

Then Mundi speaks up at 3:25, prompting the small Unduli image to do a 180 degree turn to face Mundi.

However we then immediately see at 3:29 that she never needed to turn since they've only been two little images in her hand all along.

It makes no sense for Unduli to turn right and left to face people she's essentially holding in her hand. Curiously, Skywalker's image is absent from Unduli's mobile holoprojector even though we saw her turn to face him. Did he race out of the room the nanosecond he finished talking?

teft@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y (1 reply)

There are viewscreens in star wars:

Soleos@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

Ohhh I forgot about this! And somebody said Andor broke the bible with their 2D video

GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y

Daaaaaamn, a real nerd! Got the screenshots for it too!

This is actual praise, holy hell, I did not expect to see this kind of effort for a comment. I fucking love Lemmy, I hope it stays this good for as long as possible.

This was one of the issues they ran into early in the Clone Wars. In my head, I justified it as a more advanced version of modern video chat software filters. The ones subtly shift your pupils to look like they're looking at the camera instead of the screen. I think in later episodes, I remember seeing holograms scaled to eye level, and communicators being held at eye level as often as feasible.

But this is obviously retrospective justification, and the reality is probably "idk, it just looked better to the one or two animators who worked on this shot."

nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 1y

Maybe the holograms aren't really 1:1 "images" but, instead, like avatars. This would also help to explain what the problem holographic communicator is able to get the whole body, including the back.

MintyAnt@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y (1 reply)

It's how its shot. Star Trek (and anything modern I guess) is green screen and the second person edited in later. The actors are talking to nobody

B5 uses CRTs, both actors are sitting in different parts of the set talking to each other live, because they could record that.

The difference it makes is crazy. So much conversation is so much more natural due to it. Wish shows would make it happen again somehow

nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 1y

I think that The Expanse did a great job at leveraging the green screen thing for comms. Because they don't have FTL, the less conversational feeling really works because, in-universe, they're basically never speaking in real-time.

BroccoLemuria@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y

I came to write exactly this, I laughed out loud at it

Hatshepsut@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1y (1 reply)

S4 is a really interesting watch given the current political climate in the US. I just embarked on a re-watch this month. Agree G’kar and Londo scenes were great. My favorite duo in the show.

GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

God, this. This fucking show was absolutely prophetic. I wish more politicians watched it in the 90s and got the fucking hint.

quediuspayu@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1y (9 replies)

You know what? You convinced me, I'll give it a try.

neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 1y (2 replies)

The first season is pretty bad, but necessary to set up the various arcs.

Season 4 crammed the final two major plot arcs into it because they thought they were getting cancelled. But then they didn’t. Season 5 is almost entirely filler.

In fact, once you finish Season 4, I’d recommend jumping right to the series finale (last episode of S5) and watching that. Then watch Season 5 from the beginning and think of it as a spin-off show that didn’t go anywhere.

This was how I went through my last rewatch of the series a few years ago and it was perfect.

MintyAnt@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y (1 reply)

S1 is overall more watchable than I usually give it credit for, but there is some atrocious acting at times. And some of the sets are rough

And maybe just skip the pilot.

wewbull@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 1y

The pilot is an odd one. On one hand it does start some story arcs. On the other, the production is a rather large step off.

Maybe it's one to go back and watch at the end of S1.

mosiacmango@lemm.ee · 11 pts · 1y (1 reply)

You know the episode of DS9 where Sisko and Garrick commit war crimes?

It's like that episode, the show.

Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1y

Only scifi show I can think of to present peace negotiations with the same degree of dramatic tension as they give to the rest of the war.

acockworkorange@mander.xyz · 9 pts · 1y

It took me a while, so I'll tell you it starts to pick up steam halfway through first season and hooks you before the first season finale.

GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 1y (1 reply)

It is, wholeheartedly, one of my most favorite shows of all time. It's one of the ones that shaped me as a human being.

Just try and give the exiting actors and resulting plot hiccups a little mercy. There was a lot happening in the real world for all of them, and some things are more important than television.

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 1y

Just try and give the exiting actors and resulting plot hiccups a little mercy

Sinclair > Sheridan

Though I get that the actor had mental health issues and decided he would rather quit entirely than stall production and possibly lead to the show's premature cancellation.

neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1y
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MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website · 16 pts · 1y (2 replies)

goofy hairstyles

Look how they massacred my boy Londo.

First real character I remember in sci-fi. He's a highfalutin blowhard from a noble house, who's fucking broke and has to lose two of his wives.

Then he picks the one that treats him the worst because she lies the least.

Then he goes on to sell his soul to make his planet great again which of course if goes all monkey paw on him.

The dude is a walking pile of contradictions. There's nobody like him in star trek sadly.

Taleya@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 1y

The way he gained a soul the hard way just to trade it, fucking amazing journey

SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social · 5 pts · 1y

And the show blew me away with how it showed exactly how Londo would die in the first season, and his death was both exactly, and nothing at all, like it was foretold.

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Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1y (6 replies)

Familiar Faces

G'Kar and Tomalak

General Gauge and Admiral Layton/V'Las

Captain Braxton and Major Ryan

teft@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Don't forget Brad Dourif as a creepy murderer and Brad Dourif as a creepy murderer

Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1y

Brad Dourif as a creepy murderer

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 1y (3 replies)

I did not grab the character names when I had made this chart, but here is a list of Babylon 5 actors who appeared in Star Trek. Data sourced from IMDb

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Actor Star Trek 1 Star Trek 2 Star Trek 3 Star Trek 4 Star Trek 5
Majel Barrett Star Trek Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
Eric Pierpoint Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
John Fleck Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
Thomas Kopache Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
Vaughn Armstrong Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
John Vickery Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: The Next Generation
Michael Ansara Star Trek Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Voyager
Phil Morris Star Trek Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Voyager
Christopher Darga Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: Voyager
Jeffrey Combs Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: Voyager
John Schuck Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: Voyager
Aric Rogokos Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: Picard Star Trek: Voyager
Patricia Tallman Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
Ron Canada Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
Glenn Morshower Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
Bruce Gray Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Enterprise
Erick Avari Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Enterprise
Robert Foxworth Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Enterprise
Walter Koenig Star Trek Star Trek: Picard
Malachi Throne Star Trek Star Trek: The Next Generation
Julie Caitlin Brown Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: The Next Generation
Katherine Moffat Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: The Next Generation
Roy Brocksmith Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: The Next Generation
Tricia O'Neil Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: The Next Generation
Andreas Katsulas Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: The Next Generation
Brian Cousins Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: The Next Generation
Mark Rolston Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: The Next Generation
Gerrit Graham Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Voyager
J. Patrick McCormack Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Voyager
Jeff Austin Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Voyager
Leigh McCloskey Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Voyager
Marshall R. Teague Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Voyager
Patrick Kilpatrick Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Star Trek: Voyager
Bill Blair Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: Voyager
Christopher Neame Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: Voyager
James Parks Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: Voyager
Keith Szarabajka Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: Voyager
Louis Ortiz Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: Voyager
Nathan Anderson Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: Voyager
Tucker Smallwood Star Trek: Enterprise Star Trek: Voyager
Carel Struycken Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
Carolyn Seymour Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
Dwight Schultz Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
Henry Darrow Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
Josh Clark Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
Judson Scott Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
William Morgan Sheppard Star Trek: The Next Generation Star Trek: Voyager
Jeff Corey Star Trek
Victor Lundin Star Trek
Adrienne Barbeau Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Art Chudabala Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Bennet Guillory Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Bernie Casey Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Bill Mumy Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Blair Valk Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Christopher Michael Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Clayton Landey Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Harry Hutchinson Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Jack Kehler Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
James Black Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Julia Nickson Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Juliana Donald Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Kitty Swink Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Mary Kay Adams Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Mike Genovese Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Rosie Malek-Yonan Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Stephen Macht Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Tony Rizzoli Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Tracy Scoggins Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
William Dennis Hunt Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Donovan Brown Star Trek: Discovery
Brian Freifield Star Trek: Enterprise
David A. Kimball Star Trek: Enterprise
Diane DiLascio Star Trek: Enterprise
Geoff Meed Star Trek: Enterprise
Guy Siner Star Trek: Enterprise
Jane Carr Star Trek: Enterprise
Kate McNeil Star Trek: Enterprise
Kris Iyer Star Trek: Enterprise
Mark Ginther Star Trek: Enterprise
Robert Rusler Star Trek: Enterprise
Steven Lambert Star Trek: Enterprise
Vince Deadrick Jr. Star Trek: Enterprise
Warren Tabata Star Trek: Enterprise
Merrin Dungey Star Trek: Picard
Tamlyn Tomita Star Trek: Picard
Beth Toussaint Star Trek: The Next Generation
Clive Revill Star Trek: The Next Generation
David L. Crowley Star Trek: The Next Generation
David Sage Star Trek: The Next Generation
David Warner Star Trek: The Next Generation
Jim Norton Star Trek: The Next Generation
John Christian Graas Star Trek: The Next Generation
John Snyder Star Trek: The Next Generation
Katy Boyer Star Trek: The Next Generation
Ken Jenkins Star Trek: The Next Generation
Lenore Kasdorf Star Trek: The Next Generation
Marie Marshall Star Trek: The Next Generation
Mark Bramhall Star Trek: The Next Generation
Michelan Sisti Star Trek: The Next Generation
Paul Winfield Star Trek: The Next Generation
Reiner Schöne Star Trek: The Next Generation
Robin Curtis Star Trek: The Next Generation
Stephen Lee Star Trek: The Next Generation
Theodore Bikel Star Trek: The Next Generation
Andray Johnson Star Trek: Voyager
Anthony Crivello Star Trek: Voyager
Anthony De Longis Star Trek: Voyager
Beverly Leech Star Trek: Voyager
Bill Miller Star Trek: Voyager
Brad Dourif Star Trek: Voyager
Bruce McGill Star Trek: Voyager
Christopher Curry Star Trek: Voyager
Daunette Saunders Star Trek: Voyager
David Anthony Marshall Star Trek: Voyager
Don McMillan Star Trek: Voyager
Ed Trotta Star Trek: Voyager
Eric Steinberg Star Trek: Voyager
Grace Harrell Star Trek: Voyager
Greg Poland Star Trek: Voyager
Ian Abercrombie Star Trek: Voyager
Jean-Luc Martin Star Trek: Voyager
Jim Portnoy Star Trek: Voyager
Joey Sakata Star Trek: Voyager
Joyce Lasley Star Trek: Voyager
Justin Williams Star Trek: Voyager
Kerry Hoyt Star Trek: Voyager
Lou Slaughter Star Trek: Voyager
Marie Chambers Star Trek: Voyager
Marjorie Monaghan Star Trek: Voyager
Marva Hicks Star Trek: Voyager
Mel Winkler Star Trek: Voyager
Michael Bailey Smith Star Trek: Voyager
Michael Kagan Star Trek: Voyager
Michael N. Fujimoto Star Trek: Voyager
Mirron E. Willis Star Trek: Voyager
Musetta Vander Star Trek: Voyager
Pablo Espinosa Star Trek: Voyager
Paul Williams Star Trek: Voyager
Peter Wick Star Trek: Voyager
Richard Chaves Star Trek: Voyager
Robin Sachs Star Trek: Voyager
Russ Fega Star Trek: Voyager
Sam Alejan Star Trek: Voyager
Simon Billig Star Trek: Voyager
Susie Stillwell Star Trek: Voyager
Tami Peterson Star Trek: Voyager
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Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y (1 reply)

That listing was just off the top of my head. Though the funnier connection is Hague (Robert Foxworth) "died" in B5 because his agent double booked him on DS9 as Layton so they brought in Ryan (Bruce McGill). There is even a funny outtake where McGill references it. Even funnier is the producers intended to get Everett McGill but got names mixed up and got Bruce instead

VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

If they were asked to find 'that McGill guy' nowadays they might have turned up Bob Odenkirk or Michael McKean.

jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1y

Missed opportunity to make the first column "Jeffery Combs as:"

nokturne213@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 1y (9 replies)

I have always wanted to like b5, I have tried to watch it multiple times over the years. I get 3 or 4 episodes into it and lose interest. Maybe it is time to try it out again

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 1y

It definitely blends action, drama, politics, and philosophy like Stat Trek does, but leans far more into drama/politics. I can understand why one might lose interest early on.

LNRDrone@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 1y

From what I remember it start a little slow, but it starts to pick up around half way of the first season and it's pretty consistenly great after that. It has been while since I rewatched it though

Haus@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 1y (3 replies)

I feel this. Sometimes I have to remind myself it took, like, 5 tries on Breaking Bad to get past Walter standing in a desert in his tightie whities.

I think B5 is the one where the test pilot goes too fast and winds up on a big alien spaceship?

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 10 pts · 1y

I think B5 is the one where the test pilot goes too fast and winds up on a big alien spaceship?

That almost sounds like Farscape

acockworkorange@mander.xyz · 6 pts · 1y

Like OP said, that's Farscape, sort of an antithesis to B5. Farscape is action in a ship. B5 is politics in a station.

nokturne213@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 1y

I had the bonus watching Breaking Bad, of being from NM but living in Maryland when I watched it. I was enjoying seeing all the stuff from home.

And yup that is Farscape, another really great sci-fi show.

MintyAnt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y

Hmm give this one a go

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0517627/

While it's not quite the style of the show, it still a fun way to see the whole station and get a taste of the over arching plot stuff.

Taleya@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 1y

First season? Yeah that one is a bit rough. But the payoff is worth the setup.

SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social · 1 pts · 1y

Get to episode 8, "And the Sky Full of Stars." If that doesn't grab you, then rest assured that the show is just not your thing.

nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 1y

Fuck. I have to start another rewatch of the series now.

Obelix@feddit.org · 6 pts · 1y (3 replies)

There is an animated spin off? How is it?

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 7 pts · 1y

It's just a one-off film from 2023, not a series. And it is also not really a true "spinoff" like Crusade, as it does focus on the same main characters from the series, just during an unexplored time period that had been glossed over before the series finale.

As for how enjoyable it is, I thought it was fine, but I am no film critic. Taken from Wikipedia:

On Rotten Tomatoes it has a score of 83% based on reviews from 6 critics.[12] Tara Bennett of IGN Movies rated it 7 out of 10 and wrote: "J. Michael Straczynski’s script stridently wears its heart on its sleeve, which will likely land for nostalgic old-timers but play a little cloying for those without prior investment."[13] Rob Owen of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review wrote: "As stories go, The Road Home is pretty meh, standard sci-fi fare with a sappy, humanistic overlay."[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_5:_the_Road_Home

Taleya@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 1y

Nah it was the latest film, done in animated form

TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y

I thought it was pretty bad. I got together with some friends to watch and we barely made it through. It was just boring.

SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 1y (8 replies)
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AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y (2 replies)

It's available for free with ads, though thankfully the ad breaks are where they are supposed to be, on Tubi

SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 1y (1 reply)
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acockworkorange@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 1y

They say piracy is an access/service problem, not a price problem.

GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y (4 replies)

https://www.amazon.com/Babylon-5-Season-1/dp/B000I5SYHS

Here. If you want it legally, at least. Believe it or not, Pirate Bay has the fandom-produced 1080p upscale. It looks really good, whoever did the render really put some love into it.

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SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 1y (2 replies)

It looks like there is an official 1080p Blu-ray. Is the fandom version better, or is it just that it came first?

Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Blu-ray is way better. I checked.

amos@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 1y

Yes, the new bluray version is the one to get. It is based on the original analog film which is high definition (heard it was closer to 2k ish). This is the same as the version that was available on HBO a few years back. The old DVD version was a cropped (and stretched) version of the tv broadcast version which was cropped from the original source. Anything based on that will look pretty bad.

The only thing that is lower resolution in the bluray version are the scenes where actors and CGI are mixed. They lost the original 3d models so there were no cheap and easy way to fix those.

I can also recommend the Lurkers Guide viewing order. There are also some tips on episodes that can potentially be skipped.

https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Viewing_Order#lurkers

oyzmo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y

Love Babylon5, excellent series!

SlothMama@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y (1 reply)

Is there a Babylon 5 Lemmy community? If not, can someone please create one? Thanks.

SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 1y

!babylon5@sh.itjust.works