Not even a single full day into operation, and the new Grok 4 is hurling racist conspiracy theories at users.
According to Elon Musk, no later than next week, it will be added to Tesla vehicles.
Not even a single full day into operation, and the new Grok 4 is hurling racist conspiracy theories at users.
According to Elon Musk, no later than next week, it will be added to Tesla vehicles.
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besselj@lemmy.ca · 144 pts · 1y
Imagine asking it for directions and it starts talking about white genocide in South Africa, lmao
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca · 87 pts · 1y
Worse, it figures out the driver isn't white and forces them into oncoming traffic.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 1y
Or starts running over non-white pedestrians
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 48 pts · 1y
Oh, so that's why they insisted on vision-only! LiDAR isn't racist enough
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1y
Coming up next week: Captchas where you have to click on all the pictures containing non-white people
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
Clicking the picture deploys a missile
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Time for a relevant Better Off Ted
Pecuniam Coram Populo
dickalan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
One of the few shows actually finished all the seasons of
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 14 pts · 1y
If it determines their name sounds like (((one of them))), MechaHitler could lock its doors and detonate its batteries, helping to continue its namesake’s mission.
Zier@fedia.io · 15 pts · 1y
I was thinking it only lets you "turn to the right". No left turns allowed.
FleetingTit@feddit.org · 7 pts · 1y
Imagine asking it to take you to Taco Bell and the car just mows down the nearest mexican.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Well what if I'm asking for directions on how to white genocide South Africa you ever think of that
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 81 pts · 1y
Tesla owner: "I don't care about politics, I just like the car. I'm not a bad person!"
car is in the background screaming, "Jews will not replace us!!"
Cris_Color@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 1y
Literally why would anyone want that. Even racist elon musk lovers. Why would anyone want their car to have an LLM.
besselj@lemmy.ca · 51 pts · 1y
My guess is that some hardcore Musk followers must be very lonely at this point, so much so that they prefer talking to chatbots.
Cris_Color@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 1y
Lmao, rip.
cubism_pitta@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 1y
In general, with tools these LLMs have the ability to bring the next generation of Alexa / HomePod like devices (though I am not sure Amazon has delivered on that vision yet)
I like the idea of running a Llama based "Assistant" that would not require all my data leaving my house which could also be accomplished with these features.
In my car though... just use my fucking phone and get out of my way
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · 4 pts · 1y
(Getting downvoted... OK :) My definition of "mildly interesting" feature may be unpopular.)
They actually do mildly interesting things, and I can see it as a vector to eventually do ACTUALLY useful things. VW and Mercedes both use ChatGPT to power this feature for now.
Plus, the Chinese ones get to wear funny hats! Here is one dressed up as
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Cris_Color@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y
I'm not going to downvote you just because we don't share the same perspective, that's dumb. I hope you're having a good day :)
I don't want to talk to my car though. I see voice recognition as potentially useful for hands free control, which does have meaningful value, but I don't need an LLM or any form of generative ai for that
I don't want to talk to the combined informational model of twitter while driving my car. I don't want to talk to the combined informational model of the rest of the internet either.
Asking for weather or directions or whatever, sure, but that doesn't need an LLM, and certainly doesn't benefit from grok specifically
The hat is very cute though.
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · 4 pts · 1y
I respect your take :)
Cris_Color@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
I respect your take 😊
Hope you have a lovely day my friend :)
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · 2 pts · 1y
Us embracing that
Cris_Color@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Lol 😊
The pic doesnt seem to work for me, but I can see the caption
A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 1y
That would be fine if we could trust businesses, but... :gestures at the last half-millennium:
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 1y
Honestly cars could just run local LLMs. It wouldn't be that expensive to implement in a car which already has a lot of computer hardware
A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Yeah but frankly I still wouldn't trust it
AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1y
Are they intended as a conversationalist?
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · 2 pts · 1y
That's the rub. Sometimes you don't know the utility of a tool until you build it. The future is weird that way.
Who would have thought WHAT people would chat with ChatGPT about? Like, romance? WTF? That's strange, call it emergent behavior, the final utility was unexpected.
In my head, I anticipate the tool going down the track of voice assistants from the pre-AI phase, so just like Alexa for directions or simple searches, but local to the car. Maybe unintended utilities will arise? If it can do directions and music and web searches, I guess, we don't really know what other utilities drivers will find for it yet?
redlemace@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
What do you mean? Isn't it a match made in
heavenhell ? Getting praisal of Adolf Hitler and receiving antisemitic comments while driving a sawasticar /s21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com · 51 pts · 1y
Man the actual cyberpunk sucks ass.
LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de · 15 pts · 1y
Even the bugged release version from 2077 was better than reality
tankfox@midwest.social · 3 pts · 1y
sucking ass is the essence of cyberpunk 🤌
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
This cyborg butthole is just velcro and has to be replaced twice weekly what was I thinking
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 35 pts · 1y
Bad day to be a jewish Telsa driver.
brrk@lemmynsfw.com · 16 pts · 1y
Thanks for the chuckle, that got me good. I just imagined an old Jewish man groaning "Oy vey..." after starting his car and seeing a greeting message along the lines of "HI! I'm MECHA-Hitler, your new onboard Ai assistant!"
(It's a surreal dark-humor chuckle, not an antisemitic chuckle, just to clarify, since this is the internet...)
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
Don’t worry, on the internet you’re only antisemitic if you oppose the genocide in Gaza.
/s
brrk@lemmynsfw.com · 1 pts · 1y
Good thing no one knows I'm secretly a dog
UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 1y
Another reason to not get a Nazimobile
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1y
Chainweasel@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 1y
He's really leaning into the Swasticar thing isn't he?
klu9@piefed.social · 18 pts · 1y
T156@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 1y
Very confused about what the point of this would be. People don't use their cars enough to justify having something like that installed, and it seems like it would just make things more expensive for xAI for not much benefit at all.
Randelung@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 1y
It's so Musk can give himself money he would otherwise not get. The user experience has no part in this.
VitoRobles@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 1y
Adoption and usage is a huge value for AI companies.
In order to train data, they need data from humans. Just like social media companies need users to create content. And they're already crawling & stealing everything they can off the internet. But they need more.
Google, Facebook - they're shoving it in everything they own to get more user usage so they can feed their AI beast.
Oderus@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
My guess is to give a better experience looking for things while driving. Like restaurants, current movies in theaters etc. Just like how everyone uses ChatGPT vs. Google. Not sure if I'll use it frankly but I'll see when I get it.
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 1y
It won't make anything better. You can't throw a shitty AI chatbot at a shitty touch UI and expect the shitty touch UI to magically transform into something not shitty for use inside of a vehicle.
Oderus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Shitty touch UI? I see you've never used one before. The response is amazing.
drhodl@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
Found the swasticar driver.....
Oderus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
Way to go Sherlock. You cracked the case.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 1y
Swastikar, now with Mecha Hitler.
skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de · 14 pts · 1y
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · 7 pts · 1y
I was about to say, that might make the car safer on net!
Less compute means less bandwidth to hallucinate demons in front of you on a totally unobstructed straightaway.
Allemaniac@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 1y
when getting blasted with fascist remarks on your daily commute is becoming the norm, we as a society should start asking questions.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
I miss the days of good AM radio too. Also good FM radio. Ham radio never goes bad.
Kurious84@eviltoast.org · 13 pts · 1y
Wow he's going balls out on the swasticar.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 1y
Calling teslas “Swasticars” and CT’s “”Wankpanzers” was supposed to be a joke.
Gullible@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 1y
We’re still waiting on self driving, Elon. Where’s self driving, Elon? Stop giving your devs extra work and implement self driving, Elon
N0t_5ure@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Tesla will go bankrupt before self driving is released.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 1y
Ah yes, nothing could go wrong by giving MechaHitler mobility...
GenosseFlosse@feddit.org · 10 pts · 1y
Noooo! He is gonna drive straight through Poland into Russia in winter, and then run out of power!
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 1y
So you want Grok, a racist LLM, to have control of vehicles with driverless features. How long until Grok commits a terrorist attack?
klu9@piefed.social · 7 pts · 1y
How long until one does and Trump says "there's good AIs on both sides"?
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 1y
Nazi vehicles with Nazi brains
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 1y
Every day I am so glad that 8 years ago I decided not to buy a Tesla.
charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 1y
At some point Grok is going to take over the driving and just start running over minorities. Mark my words
frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world · 8 pts · 1y
Imagining a Cybertruck going apeshit yelling about praising Hitler because it disagreed with the driver and crashing into a ditch 😂 😭
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
Exactly the feature I was looking for on a new car.
Imagine the joys of commuting through rush hour with an insane, racist, conspiracy theory obsessed talking machine every day for the rest of your life.
It's like a fever dream
It's like a dream.
Angry_Autist@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 1y
Until there are consequences for fascism, this is just circlejerking
Part4@infosec.pub · 7 pts · 1y
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
Oh and I hope Tesla stocks go down even more!
expatriado@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 1y
"Grok is now ready" - Musk
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 1y
This is what Musk mutters to himself when on the porcelain throne.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 1y
Still can't actually drive it's self like he has been promising for over a decade. Musk will never deliver.
hopesdead@startrek.website · 5 pts · 1y
Remember this is the same guy that has increased the price on vehicles people didn’t yet receive but already paid for. He asked people to pay more for already purchased vehicles they have not received.
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
If someone bought a cyber-truck without the Grock, they bought it as it was. Shoving Grock down the consumers' throats without their consent would constitute a material alteration of tge car that was originally bought. This would then constitute graffiti.
Edit: if the vehicle had not been fully purchased and paid, this would be potential grounds for a refund because the material alteration of the good would make the contract for the sale of the vehicle voidable.
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org · 4 pts · 1y
That is how he decided it's had enough time in the oven
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 1y
Hey Tesl-errr, I mean, Grok.
Yes, fräulein
Uh... read me a story
Certainly
The function of propaganda does not lie in the scientific training of the individual, but in calling the masses' attention to certain facts, processes, necessities, etc-
last_philosopher@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 1y
What does this even mean? If you have a phone in your tesla, you already have grok in a tesla vehicle. Amazing how the Media-Tesla-hype complex works.
HowAbt2day@futurology.today · 3 pts · 1y
Saving the environment with electric car to later add an energy guzzling racist chat bot to the front panel. /nottheonion?
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 1y
I can't even get a PRD approved in a week...
DrDystopia@lemy.lol · 2 pts · 1y
If Grok is targeting Jews or any specific ethnicity, maybe not let it out in the road?
If it just runs over people by random, well that's a different matter.
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y
Your car’s AI will be telling you to drive off a bridge next.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 1y
Telling you?
It's going to do the driving for you...
Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y
I am old and have an old vehicle. Forgot about the self driving stuff for a minute.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 1y
Cars?
Oh, you mean nazi buckets?
vga@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 1y
SidTheShuckle@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 1y
My dad fsr wont ever unlease his tesla, he doesnt care
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 1y
I wouldn't normally ask this in any other context, but: is it possible your dad hates the Jews?
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · 3 pts · 1y
I'm... very sad at how germane that question is in 2025.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 1y
Heh.
KayLeadfoot@fedia.io · 3 pts · 1y
As I typed it I read it and I was like "do I shoot my shot and make the joke?" and I had a rare moment of self-restraint
But Grok would be like "you had me at 𝔤𝔢𝔯𝔪𝔞𝔫"
SidTheShuckle@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 1y
No, but he is a Hindu nationalist. Like fsr he hates trump and republicans but he doesnt hate any other fascist like Modi and Elon. Modi coz “hes a good speaker” and Elon coz “his inventions are good”
kokesh@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 1y
I think it is a brilliant idea for Swasticar owners - it will drive over/eliminate everyone with darker skin without driver input!