I once thought a service like YouTube would bypass the stupid censorship rules of even basic cable TV (which are looser than broadcast TV in the US). Oh how wrong I was.
Tbf, "unalive" is only a thing because of TikTok, unless they're pushing the same content to both platforms, when they have to go with the most restrictive version of their combined rules.
And even then most of the problem is keeping it monetized, not necessarily the platforms during it down directly.
But since videos are a career now, it's a fairly effective ban on certain words.
TikTok is way way waaaay too picky imo. Personally I don't want anything censored at all, for any reason.
Unless someone is going ham on a topic that's triggers you into some PTSD situation, I don't really think there's a good argument for censorship to exist in any form at all.
If some idiot is using language you don't like you just stop listening to them and realize that when you're scrolling through an non-curated source of content, you will hear idiots saying stupid shit.
But the action taken on them shouldn't be an effective gag, it should be just getting ignored. Once blocked and ignored enough, it's basically a shadow ban. It wouldn't be profitable for them to be offensive just for the sake of being offensive, but they shouldn't be getting what basically amounts to fines just because they said someone "died"or got "killed".
“Unalive” and others on tiktok aren’t even enforced. People believe that the algorithm will like it better if they do it but there are tons of very popular videos with cursing and “killed.” I think it’s the viewers swiping away (affecting the algorithm) and the creators voluntarily censoring themselves that created this.
Rather than hindering or censoring entire platforms because "kids might see something undesirable" (which common sense shows they'll get around to find no matter what anyways), I think the kids and parents should have and maintain their own monitored or restricted internet somewhere else.
Instead, the majority of platforms get controlled and sanitized in the name of children while the issue is framed as an impossible problem to solve. It isn't. Put your kids on the sanitized internet and let me have my swears or risqué topics please.
Besides, none of this ever ends up being about kids anyways. It's all about control and data collection.
Cable doesn't have rules, other than each corporate entity's own practices of what they're willing to publish/broadcast. Part of it is appeasing advertisers, and some of it is them wanting to gain market share, but it's all business reasons. And those same business reasons apply to websites and podcasts.
What is your solution? Because this was clearly borne from a place - not of being quirky - but of corporations actively censoring people who speak freely about whatever they decide.
Start at Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Google, and TikTok if you want to throw deserving slaps
Sometimes I'll follow a clear joke using some element of the discussion topic (e.g. "not un-slap" as a way to poke fun at the moronic euphemisms) with some serious talk about the real underlying problems but not always. This just wasn't one of those times.
My default goal is to add a little levity. The soapbox doesn't have to come out every time.
Every person eating out of a dumpster is a failure of the system. How has our economy not incentivized creating a method yet to maximize the wealth we could be extracting from these people?? We could slap a simple coin op slot onto those dumpsters and operate them like an unregulated vending machine. We could come up with a subscription model to allow monthly access to eating out of them. We could even figure out some form of alternative decentralized money system to get around FTC regulations and pesky labor laws on how we pay and receive the money from these homeless people. Capitalism is the greatest economic system ever created and we need to find a place in it for the homeless to contribute their fair share to the shareholders.
Exactly!
I've also had it with these homeless people thinking they can just place an encampment wherever without paying someone. Don't they know free stuff is communism actually?
I know the police clears them out once in a while, but that also costs valuable taxpayer money!
Instead, why don't we rent them spots under bridges, and in return the police leave them alone?
/s obviously
Seeing someone censor themselves like that makes me want to unalive them by stabby-stab.
You guys should really read the Russian version of 1984. The translators incorporated a lot of Soviet lingo into it. Which just is the icing on the cake.
48 Comments
capuccino@lemmy.world · 108 pts · 349d
1984. Every time people on youtube says words like "unalive" I cannot stop thinking about newspeak.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 47 pts · 349d
I once thought a service like YouTube would bypass the stupid censorship rules of even basic cable TV (which are looser than broadcast TV in the US). Oh how wrong I was.
fuckgod@feddit.online · 28 pts · 349d
Tbf, "unalive" is only a thing because of TikTok, unless they're pushing the same content to both platforms, when they have to go with the most restrictive version of their combined rules.
And even then most of the problem is keeping it monetized, not necessarily the platforms during it down directly.
But since videos are a career now, it's a fairly effective ban on certain words.
TikTok is way way waaaay too picky imo. Personally I don't want anything censored at all, for any reason.
Unless someone is going ham on a topic that's triggers you into some PTSD situation, I don't really think there's a good argument for censorship to exist in any form at all.
If some idiot is using language you don't like you just stop listening to them and realize that when you're scrolling through an non-curated source of content, you will hear idiots saying stupid shit.
But the action taken on them shouldn't be an effective gag, it should be just getting ignored. Once blocked and ignored enough, it's basically a shadow ban. It wouldn't be profitable for them to be offensive just for the sake of being offensive, but they shouldn't be getting what basically amounts to fines just because they said someone "died"or got "killed".
That kinda shit is bonkers.
youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 348d
“Unalive” and others on tiktok aren’t even enforced. People believe that the algorithm will like it better if they do it but there are tons of very popular videos with cursing and “killed.” I think it’s the viewers swiping away (affecting the algorithm) and the creators voluntarily censoring themselves that created this.
fuckgod@feddit.online · 1 pts · 348d
I've never been on TikTok, but I've heard creators that do both mention that doing so is because of TikTok rules.
Fuck censors.
null@lemmy.nullspace.lol · 0 pts · 348d
You're welcome to host such a platform. Won't be easy to keep it running without funding though.
fuckgod@feddit.online · 1 pts · 348d
Thanks to capitalism.
null@lemmy.nullspace.lol · 1 pts · 348d
Why would the absence of capitalism suddenly make it viable to host such a platform?
CobblerScholar@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 349d
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 349d
The other day I was walking past a gaggle of middle schoolers and heard them swearing like sailors, one even called the other a fag.
They're children, they're going to say and do things they're not supposed to do because they want to do the cool, bad, thing they're not allowed to do
I didn't see any of the tiktok censorship stopping that conversation
thesilencenoise@piefed.social · 9 pts · 349d
I completely disagree with this line of thinking.
Rather than hindering or censoring entire platforms because "kids might see something undesirable" (which common sense shows they'll get around to find no matter what anyways), I think the kids and parents should have and maintain their own monitored or restricted internet somewhere else.
Instead, the majority of platforms get controlled and sanitized in the name of children while the issue is framed as an impossible problem to solve. It isn't. Put your kids on the sanitized internet and let me have my swears or risqué topics please.
Besides, none of this ever ends up being about kids anyways. It's all about control and data collection.
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 348d
Cable doesn't have rules, other than each corporate entity's own practices of what they're willing to publish/broadcast. Part of it is appeasing advertisers, and some of it is them wanting to gain market share, but it's all business reasons. And those same business reasons apply to websites and podcasts.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 348d
It has rules in the exact same way that YouTube does.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 349d
this was a double plus good comment. really made me reflect on how I can better serve big brother.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 349d
Makes me want to not un-slap the bullshit out of their mouths.
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 349d
What is your solution? Because this was clearly borne from a place - not of being quirky - but of corporations actively censoring people who speak freely about whatever they decide.
Start at Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Google, and TikTok if you want to throw deserving slaps
expr@programming.dev · 4 pts · 349d
Don't use these shitty apps? Seems pretty straightforward.
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 349d
I don’t personally, but the point of my question which you may have missed was what should all the kids do?
expr@programming.dev · 1 pts · 349d
Also not use these shitty apps. It's very simple.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 349d
Sometimes I'll follow a clear joke using some element of the discussion topic (e.g. "not un-slap" as a way to poke fun at the moronic euphemisms) with some serious talk about the real underlying problems but not always. This just wasn't one of those times.
My default goal is to add a little levity. The soapbox doesn't have to come out every time.
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 349d
Oh. It was the punching down that didn’t feel “light,” so I figured you were serious. Carry on if you must
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 349d
Thanks, I recognize that not everybody will be on the same page and that's fine. I must and I will. See you around.
joyjoy@lemmy.zip · 52 pts · 349d
The homeless man's name? Diogenes.
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 16 pts · 349d
That dumpster? A large pot in the city center.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 349d
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 39 pts · 349d
The amount of rage bait packed into this one image is truly impressive.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 349d
It's not rage bait, it's mocking the rich
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 349d
I thought they were talking about the censoring
ameancow@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 349d
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 349d
Fixed
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 349d
We found the Epstein Files!
Feathercrown@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 349d
We did it lemmy
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 348d
Holy Shit, is this the real SCP-001?
jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 348d
Don't you mean F***d?
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 33 pts · 349d
I just realized they censored the posters fucking eyes
cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 349d
They censored "garbage".
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 348d
Really? Wow, what a load of
rubbishEdit: well, fuck me, they even censored
rubbish! Wait, what aboutwaste? Orlitter? Oh, FFS, bunch of cunts.MrEff@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 349d
Every person eating out of a dumpster is a failure of the system. How has our economy not incentivized creating a method yet to maximize the wealth we could be extracting from these people?? We could slap a simple coin op slot onto those dumpsters and operate them like an unregulated vending machine. We could come up with a subscription model to allow monthly access to eating out of them. We could even figure out some form of alternative decentralized money system to get around FTC regulations and pesky labor laws on how we pay and receive the money from these homeless people. Capitalism is the greatest economic system ever created and we need to find a place in it for the homeless to contribute their fair share to the shareholders.
stormeuh@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 348d
Exactly! I've also had it with these homeless people thinking they can just place an encampment wherever without paying someone. Don't they know free stuff is communism actually? I know the police clears them out once in a while, but that also costs valuable taxpayer money! Instead, why don't we rent them spots under bridges, and in return the police leave them alone? /s obviously
zanyllama52@infosec.pub · 17 pts · 349d
Why are people self-censoring "homeless" and "garbage"?
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 349d
So plebs engage and tell them that the censorship annoys them and gives them engagement metrics
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 349d
I believe "temporarily unhoused" is the emotionless HR term these days.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 349d
I'll grow and forage for my own food and alcohol specifically because it helps hinder GDP growth.
AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space · 11 pts · 349d
An unhoused man, you mean
MourningDove@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 349d
ExistingConsumingSpace@midwest.social · 3 pts · 348d
Of course! Gotta wait on my guy to arrive with that ball.
Guitarfun@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 348d
They could be laying down lol
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 349d
Seeing someone censor themselves like that makes me want to unalive them by stabby-stab.
You guys should really read the Russian version of 1984. The translators incorporated a lot of Soviet lingo into it. Which just is the icing on the cake.
Lauchmelder@feddit.org · 6 pts · 349d
i don't speak russian, can i just read a translation instead
lemmy12369@midwest.social · 6 pts · 349d
that guy has to be trolling too hard...
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · 5 pts · 349d
Tha**s, great st**y.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 349d
fox2263@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 349d
A homss man eating out of the garbe?