I wasted twenty minutes of my life learning enough tumblr to understand the second note. tumblr is a strange and fascinating country, like Listenbourg.
In his newest (and worst) How Do You Do Fellow Kids moment, Mark Zuckerberg launches the Poob service, accessible exclusively through the Metaverse. What does it do? Fucked if we know.
Same, after I tried all the other Fireforks. It was last on the list because of the non-serious name and logo, but damnit it's the most stable and has sensible defaults that don't get in my way.
until the last update at least, which moved half of the settings into the "Floorp Hub", removed the other half, and broke gesture extensions and my userchrome >:(
thinking of just going back to librewolf and staying with it forever
I really wanted to like floorp but scrolling on a touchpad is awful on it for some reason. It's the only fork i have issues with the scrolling on a touchpad.
I really like librewolf. Does need some getting used to and actually learn to manage profiles (which it sadly remove the new profile browser for some reason?), but pretty great and "just works"
The only problem is it isn't based on Chromium tho. That just doesn't suffice anymore.
I was an avid Firefox user for years and librewolf user for a year after that, but unfortunately, FF hasn't been able to keep up in terms of web standards.
More and more I kept having pages just not work. I ended up having to install a backup Chromium-based browser bc critical websites like my banking and loan sites only worked on Chromium-based browsers. Eventually, I caved. If I had to have a second,Chromium-based browser anyway, I might as well just use that for everything.
I wanted to not use Chromium, but FF has lost the war. Chromium runs the show now. No more fighting back. Google owns the internet.
So now I'm on Brave, and honestly it's way better than Librewolf these days. I would recommend any librewolf user switch over to that.
I do the same. Some websites will not work claiming Firefox is not supported, but do some user agent spoofing and suddenly it works just fine. Just goes to show it is not actually the web engine that's the problem.
Peter Thiel is a major backer of Brave. Additionally, Brave has done other scummy things, like injecting their own referral IDs on some pages and trading user user privacy for money by unblocking trackers from companies that pay them.
Same. Or if there is a problem, I have no reason to believe it's due to what browser I'm using. Sometimes there's technical issues on the other end. Opening a support ticket can help get things straightened out.
I use Firefox every day of my life on multiple platforms. It works great. And I don't need to fund crypto scams or contribute to the death of an open internet to use it. Cope.
Yes they are. They are agreed upon standards set for future development from a host of different companies. Chrome is just always the first to implement them. It's not that firefox will never have them, they just develop slow.
And I won't switch from brave bc it's the one browser that just works and has good adblock
It's weird how i still haven't run into any of those sites after years of using firefox. For me it not being chromium is a positive, especially with this recent adblock nonsense that google is pulling.
I believed the same things... in around 2014. By internet standards, that's an absolutely ancient perspective, and absolutely untrue these days. My main browser is Floorp, a Firefox fork, and I've found a total of one website that actually doesn't work, which was just a huge directory listing.
Yeah it was good for a while. But now a few important websites for me just don't work anymore, like a page for paying my loan. It only worked in chromium browsers. I know that chromium will work everywhere because they're the first to implement the newest standards and are the most supported by developers due to it having a huge market share. I can't rely on knowing firefox will work anymore. I've lost faith in it as a product.
One of the few chromies that has adblock still as well as decent privacy-by-default settings. I just disable the AI stuff. It doesn't have crypto stuff anymore (at least not in your face; I'm sure you can still re-enable it). It's the best chromium browser by far.
Just answer honestly,
While floorp has a more flowy and relaxed security model that still allows interaction with local files and is just overall easier to get into, I also like Zen for it's peace of mind, with the ability to suspend execution of javascript on page load turned on as a default feature, however it can be quite uptight a what does and doesn't constitute valid html
I actually thought that was interesting. What I really didn't like is not being able to just set a theme, and when I finally got to the color picker thing it just wouldn't let me set proper full black (oled). Once themes are easier and it has tree style tabs (like sideberry - not those folders) I would consider switching again.
I thought it was cool too, but I have Heimdall running on a docker container. I wanted to be able to easily get to that, and it felt like the default behavior of Zen was getting in the way.
theres an about:config setting thats something like replace.newtab and if you set it to false it brings back new tabs. you can also set the urlbar behavior to normal and it will stop floating
I loved Zen. But I have multiple devices and I don't want to have to do all of the customisation, profile and essential tab set up for ever device. So i gave up on it once base Firefox brought out the new vertical tabs.
Oh that and they kept changing things that weren't customisable that I got used to. Like the profile switcher on the bottom.
Has there been any updates that have implemented proper syncing or added more customisation yet? (I know about mods, but some of the better customisation ones would break every other update)
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sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml · 179 pts · 343d
Its literally on poob. You can stream it on poob rn
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 129 pts · 343d
missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 342d
I wasted twenty minutes of my life learning enough tumblr to understand the second note. tumblr is a strange and fascinating country, like Listenbourg.
DeltaWingDragon@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 341d
Many combolations, Elizagerth!
tal@lemmy.today · 29 pts · 343d
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/poob
Darn that Proto-Hmong crowd and their modern, trendy words.
PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 343d
How do you pronounce "twv"?
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 343d
Search people talking Hmong language (a language distributed in Laos and South China) in the internet.
fibojoly@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 342d
I reckon the w is pronounced like in Welsh.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 343d
genevieve@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 342d
VPN, my sibling in Satan.
Or piracy.
Gotta watch Goncharov somehow.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 342d
nialv7@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 343d
we have gone so far down the meta-irony abyss there is no turning back.
rtxn@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 343d
svc@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz · 36 pts · 343d
google ultron is the most privacy-preserving browser
potoo22@programming.dev · 21 pts · 343d
If an internet person says it and I want it, it has to be true.
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml · 36 pts · 343d
I genuinely use Floorp as my main daily browser lol
jimmux@programming.dev · 19 pts · 343d
Same, after I tried all the other Fireforks. It was last on the list because of the non-serious name and logo, but damnit it's the most stable and has sensible defaults that don't get in my way.
snekmuffin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 343d
until the last update at least, which moved half of the settings into the "Floorp Hub", removed the other half, and broke gesture extensions and my userchrome >:( thinking of just going back to librewolf and staying with it forever
killeronthecorner@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 343d
Same. I didn't realise there was anything wrong with it tbh
Jhex@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 342d
same, actually I use FireDragon... what's wrong with it?
genevieve@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 342d
the maintainer Zarka is a bit of a sexually abusive jerk
UltraBlack@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 342d
genevieve@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 341d
i was making a bad dragon joke
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 343d
I really wanted to like floorp but scrolling on a touchpad is awful on it for some reason. It's the only fork i have issues with the scrolling on a touchpad.
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 343d
Oh weird, I use it with a touchpad on my laptop (Lenovo Ideapad if that makes any difference) and it's always been fine for me.
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 343d
But have you tried Plingo?
RustyNova@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 343d
I really like librewolf. Does need some getting used to and actually learn to manage profiles (which it sadly remove the new profile browser for some reason?), but pretty great and "just works"
svc@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz · 21 pts · 343d
OP actually uses librewolf but is looking for a more beautiful(?) browser
https://lemmy.today/post/37553980
dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 343d
I make Librewolf beautiful using the FF-Ultima theme
KindaABigDyl@programming.dev · -54 pts · 343d
The only problem is it isn't based on Chromium tho. That just doesn't suffice anymore.
I was an avid Firefox user for years and librewolf user for a year after that, but unfortunately, FF hasn't been able to keep up in terms of web standards.
More and more I kept having pages just not work. I ended up having to install a backup Chromium-based browser bc critical websites like my banking and loan sites only worked on Chromium-based browsers. Eventually, I caved. If I had to have a second,Chromium-based browser anyway, I might as well just use that for everything.
I wanted to not use Chromium, but FF has lost the war. Chromium runs the show now. No more fighting back. Google owns the internet.
So now I'm on Brave, and honestly it's way better than Librewolf these days. I would recommend any librewolf user switch over to that.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus · 40 pts · 343d
Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 343d
I do the same. Some websites will not work claiming Firefox is not supported, but do some user agent spoofing and suddenly it works just fine. Just goes to show it is not actually the web engine that's the problem.
Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de · 10 pts · 343d
What does Brave have to do with palantir? Have i missed something?
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus · 32 pts · 343d
Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 342d
Thank you! And thank god, that i don't use it :D. So, I'm still staying with firefox.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 343d
Peter Thiel is a major backer of Brave. Additionally, Brave has done other scummy things, like injecting their own referral IDs on some pages and trading user user privacy for money by unblocking trackers from companies that pay them.
Deckname@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 342d
Thank you!
Valmond@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 343d
Interesting, I use FF for everything, on android, Linux & windows, no problems.
turbowafflz@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 343d
The only things I've encountered that don't work are webusb things and snapchat but snapchat you can just change user agent and it's fine.
swelter_spark@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 342d
Same. Or if there is a problem, I have no reason to believe it's due to what browser I'm using. Sometimes there's technical issues on the other end. Opening a support ticket can help get things straightened out.
KindaABigDyl@programming.dev · -2 pts · 339d
Good for you. It works for most websites. But when I can't pay my loan bc firefox is crapping itself, it means I can't use firefox.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 343d
This is all kinds of wrong. Fuck Brave and fuck Chromium.
KindaABigDyl@programming.dev · -1 pts · 339d
Brave works. Firefox doesn't. Cope
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 339d
I use Firefox every day of my life on multiple platforms. It works great. And I don't need to fund crypto scams or contribute to the death of an open internet to use it. Cope.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 343d
KindaABigDyl@programming.dev · 0 pts · 339d
Yes they are. They are agreed upon standards set for future development from a host of different companies. Chrome is just always the first to implement them. It's not that firefox will never have them, they just develop slow.
And I won't switch from brave bc it's the one browser that just works and has good adblock
juipeltje@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 343d
It's weird how i still haven't run into any of those sites after years of using firefox. For me it not being chromium is a positive, especially with this recent adblock nonsense that google is pulling.
KindaABigDyl@programming.dev · 0 pts · 339d
But brave has adblock, so it's all good
juipeltje@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 339d
Yeah but i don't like that it's chromium, and the crypto stuff has always put me off.
Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 343d
I believed the same things... in around 2014. By internet standards, that's an absolutely ancient perspective, and absolutely untrue these days. My main browser is Floorp, a Firefox fork, and I've found a total of one website that actually doesn't work, which was just a huge directory listing.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 343d
Yeah I feel like OP is either lying or incompetent
RustyNova@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 343d
Well it really depends on your use case because as a daily driver I never see any buggy page. Not even the enhanced protection thing is blocking pages
KindaABigDyl@programming.dev · 0 pts · 339d
Yeah it was good for a while. But now a few important websites for me just don't work anymore, like a page for paying my loan. It only worked in chromium browsers. I know that chromium will work everywhere because they're the first to implement the newest standards and are the most supported by developers due to it having a huge market share. I can't rely on knowing firefox will work anymore. I've lost faith in it as a product.
mholiv@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 342d
Why would you choose the crypto bro ad company browser out of all the chrome spinoffs?
Why not use any of the others?
KindaABigDyl@programming.dev · 0 pts · 339d
One of the few chromies that has adblock still as well as decent privacy-by-default settings. I just disable the AI stuff. It doesn't have crypto stuff anymore (at least not in your face; I'm sure you can still re-enable it). It's the best chromium browser by far.
callyral@pawb.social · 25 pts · 343d
I use Librewolf with a slightly edited Cascade CSS theme, plus the Catppuccin color palette. Works great and looks nice.
girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 343d
I like that theme but as i understand it, having a custom css theme may reduce your anonymity while browsing, if you're concerned about that.
cactus@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 343d
Cascade looks awesome, thanks for sharing! gotta check it out when I get home
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml · 19 pts · 343d
Just answer honestly,
While floorp has a more flowy and relaxed security model that still allows interaction with local files and is just overall easier to get into, I also like Zen for it's peace of mind, with the ability to suspend execution of javascript on page load turned on as a default feature, however it can be quite uptight a what does and doesn't constitute valid html
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 343d
I'm playing with Floorp now. It works fine but I HATE the name.
tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden · 12 pts · 343d
Slurp
eager_eagle@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 343d
but from the floor, yummy
nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 343d
I mostly like zen. But I dont like that pressing on the new tab button brings up a floating search menu instead of taking me to my homepage.
Edit: thanks for pointing me to about config peeps.
keNNy@feddit.org · 9 pts · 343d
You can switch to the legacy new tab behavior via about:config, see https://docs.zen-browser.app/user-manual/urlbar#enable-legacy-new-tab-mechanism
_hovi_@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 343d
I actually thought that was interesting. What I really didn't like is not being able to just set a theme, and when I finally got to the color picker thing it just wouldn't let me set proper full black (oled). Once themes are easier and it has tree style tabs (like sideberry - not those folders) I would consider switching again.
nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 343d
I thought it was cool too, but I have Heimdall running on a docker container. I wanted to be able to easily get to that, and it felt like the default behavior of Zen was getting in the way.
_hovi_@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 343d
Ah, yeah that would be annoying
dabster291@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 343d
IIRC there's an option to restore regular new tabs in the settings
unknown1234_5@kbin.earth · 3 pts · 343d
theres an about:config setting thats something like replace.newtab and if you set it to false it brings back new tabs. you can also set the urlbar behavior to normal and it will stop floating
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 343d
I loved Zen. But I have multiple devices and I don't want to have to do all of the customisation, profile and essential tab set up for ever device. So i gave up on it once base Firefox brought out the new vertical tabs.
Oh that and they kept changing things that weren't customisable that I got used to. Like the profile switcher on the bottom.
Has there been any updates that have implemented proper syncing or added more customisation yet? (I know about mods, but some of the better customisation ones would break every other update)
tal@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 343d
That's "Floorp", not to be confused with "Florp", which I see on Weebly:
https://katiecurcio.weebly.com/