I think these fascists are trying to make him their "George Floyd". But unlike what the death of George Floyd represented (a wake-up call and a rallying chant against authoritarisnism, bigotry, institutionalized racism, and police brutality), this is a complete farse and a mockery, completely devoid of any meaning. He died for nothing except to give us some hilarious memes to laugh our asses off for no more than a week
They're claiming it's their Reichstag fire.... They have somehow achieved a negative grasp of history. As in measured on a scale of 1 through 10, these people have a score of -5
Family members turned him in, because even his own family doesn’t want to harbour this bigot.
And here’s a quick synopsis:
He’s exactly who you’d think. I, for one, am shocked /s. I guess Charlie wasn’t Nazi enough or something (according to Nick Fuentes in past statements, Charlie was a bit too ‘woke’, but we don’t know this lunatic’s motives yet, so I’m just speculating).
Yeah, I hoped I was clear that some of this is speculation at this point.
Based on the photos, though….
I get we need to be extra cautious, but some things are a pretty clear pattern. If we find out he was a leftist dude radicalised by the centrism of Lawrence O’Donnell, I’ll actually be shocked.
It’s probably me – having that many photos with guns is weird. I get that’s an American thing, but it’s actually pretty weird. His interest seems like fetishisation to me.
Calling the Civil Rights Act of 1964 a "huge mistake"
Describing Martin Luther King Jr. as "awful" and "not a good person"
Stated "If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to think, 'I hope he's qualified'"
Claimed successful Black women like Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, and Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson were "affirmative action picks" who "do not possess the cognitive capacity to be taken seriously"
The league only cares about black athletes to the degree that it can profit off their performance.
Case in point: Colin Kaepernick knelt during the national anthem -- which was honestly an extremely mild form of protest -- and was immediately black-balled.
If they do care about black athletes, they clearly care about money a lot more.
The players are unionized, and the NFLPA has a lot of strong black voices in leadership if I recall (at least as of the last time I looked into it)... But yeah I doubt they'll do anything unfortunately.
Then think about how 'just' their presentation goes. Compare the owner and the 'peripheral' employees. There's a better picture that I can't find that is often used in sociology classes, where the owner of a team is in the presence of the cheerleaders and the players, and it can't be beat for showing that if you're a rich man wanting slaves and concubines, owning a team is pretty much the next best thing.
Some messages made references to Trump, though they do not provide any evidence of criminal conduct.
Welp.
The article also doesn't mention those communications implicating anyone (alive) other than Maxwell, which isn't nothing, but definitely not the illumination people were hoping for, I don't think.
Trump’s name surfaced again around the time Epstein was making an intense backchannel lobbying effort to get federal prosecutors to drop their case against him. It was in an email dated Aug. 23, 2007, a month before Epstein signed the non-prosecution agreement with the US Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida that ended the federal component of the Epstein investigation.
The emails indicate that Maxwell may have been referring to a team of reporters covering Epstein who she expected would be seeking information from Trump; from Abe Gosman, the late healthcare magnate whose palatial property sold to Trump for $41 million after a heated bidding war with Epstein; from court documents in West Palm Beach; and from Joel Pashcow, the Palm Beach police and fire foundation board member who’d traveled on Epstein’s private jet. Pashcow did not respond to a request for comment.
The unsealed documents released Thursday also contain allegations that Jane Doe 3 — whose allegations match those of Giuffre — was "forced" to have sexual relations with Prince Andrew on Epstein’s private island in what was described as "an orgy" with numerous other under-aged girls. It does not specify the year. The woman was allegedly instructed by Epstein to "give the Prince whatever he demanded" and "report back to him on the details of the sexual abuse."
The email proves he knew Epstein at least as long as Epestein had the island up and running.
That's not enough to convict him of anything, though. It's sounding more and more like there won't be any smoking gun in these files, at least not when it comes to Trump specifically.
Idk, light magas around the edges might be swayed once they hear all of the times their leader acts like a pedophile and surrounds himself with pedophiles.
Yes. In fact, I'm certain they don't. You have to understand, Trump voters don't live in our reality. They live in a fabricated fantasyland created by the slop media they consume. They think Donald Trump is fighting the pedophiles, because that is what they have been told to believe. All of the attacks on him are "fake news" because they're from mainstream media sources, which they have been told to never trust.
If concrete evidence that they have been directly lied to is distributed to them by a source they trust, I can't say for sure what would happen, but it's probably the best chance for them to be deprogrammed.
Yes. In fact, I’m certain they don’t. You have to understand, Trump voters don’t live in our reality.
So this will bring them into reality? Why would they start living in it now all of the sudden? They will create some alternate theory in their minds and cling to it if they have to.
If you keep underestimating everyone who doesn't agree with you, it'll be difficult to think of true, inclusive change.
They know. And they understand. The just reach different conclusions and actions with the same information and capabilities as you.
Like you, most people aren't passive receptacles of what happens around them. But not everyone will react the same way or think the same thing as you.
That's doesn't mean they 'live in a fabricated fantasy land'. That's just the pc way to dehumanize people.
They are different people, and you need to see them as that if you actually care about them. Then you might be able to have honest, constructive conversations. People don't disagree with facts, they disagree with people.
And acting like they're stupid and you're God's smartest cookie is an easy way to get people to disagree with you.
You're just being condescending and seem to have never interacted with them person to person. I live here. I deal with them daily. I have heard them double down on insane nonsense that I don't know if you could dream of.
90% of what you said are inferences you are making. I understand they are victims of propoganda. It doesn't seem like you do.
The same thing that the billionaires have been doing. Paying fealty and demonstrating loyalty in the hopes of avoiding attack or maybe even getting rewarded.
Unfortunately, there is no hell. We need to make sure horrible people get their comeuppance here, on earth.
Since it looks like he died near instantly, with no time to reflect on the damage he’d wrought, he basically escaped justice. On the plus side, he can’t do more damage. On the far larger negative side, he’s a martyr now.
I believe that when you're dead, that's it, you're gone. And rightly so since that guy was a massive piece of shit and by all morality, deserved to die. And then the way he got killed? THAT makes me ACTUALLY do a little dance.
I can't wait for you know who... I'm gonna go into the street and do a little dance. Maybe even a big dance and have a party that lasts a week
Carry around a couple of bricks. They wanna beat your ass? Hold a brick in each hand and start throwing punches back. You'll break your hands in the process if you hit them with your hands, but you'll also shatter any bones of theirs that you touch.
Boycott the NFL if you like American style football just watch Canadian or Australian football or even rugby they are all close enough and in some cases like Australian football I would say are better
Or just attend university leagues. I don't even like football, mostly because I don't understand the rules, but this time of year I go to cheap to free university games.
US sports (except maybe basketball) are very right-wing. I don't think they actually care one way or the other, but their audience is mostly boys and men, and boys and men are right wing these days, so the sports cater to that audience.
It's not just commercials, it's often also the commentators. They're not saying outright Nazi things, but, for example, they often they reminisce about how things used to be better, and complain about the current world.
I imagine people won’t like to hear it, but there’s no denying that major sports teams rely on the same “in-group/out-group” dynamic that fascism relies on.
It may be a more benign form (for the most part), but the whole “my sports team is better than yours!” Is definitely tribalistic in nature. It’s not surprising to me that many die-hard fans may revel in arbitrary social divisions in other facets of their lives.
I don't know if they do it in the US, but it's well known that Nazis in Europe are recruiting from the soccer fan clubs.
People turning their entire lives into revolving around artificial factions about a game they have no say in, and willing to get into physical fight over it, yeah, those are exactly who they want.
Fascism is about the in-group that gets to make rules that bind the out-group but not themselves. The important bit there is the enforcement of those rules with the state's monopoly on violence.
Merely having an in-group and an out-group is harmless on its own. It's how you have inside jokes. It's how you have friends who you can trust with secrets. It's how families work.
Having in-jokes with your friends is not tribalistic. I mean, it may be something a small tribe does—that's not what we're talking about.
Performative hatred of "the other ones", sports teams, clankers, what have you, scratches the same itch fascists love scratching. Obviously, that's something they can leverage.
Studies have consistently shown a pretty even split, typically leaning Democratic. This trend aligns with American demographics and reflects the political landscape of the cities where these teams are located, which tend to be predominantly Democratic.
I said they weren't gonna, and they didn't. We got a big ol flag display outside town, the towns proud of it. It goes to half staff when appropriate. It did not fly half staff yesterday.
It will likely happen before every football game this weekend.
Fox News will then publish a pearl-clutching compilation of people booing at college football games, and Trump will use that to justify defunding those institutions further.
i have a suggestion, and that's that everyone going to one of these events, cue up Entry of the Gladiators by Julius Fucik, have multiple copies downloaded on your phone ready to go at whatever public event you're at ready for that jackass' moment of silence, and blare it out your phone. count down one two three then whoever's ready plays at full volume. drown the motherfucker out.
There are hundreds of College Football games that take place on Saturdays, although I think the moment of silence and pearl clutching will also occur at the NFL games on Sundays.
Makes me glad I stopped watching football years ago when it became clear that we were systematically destroying our childrens' brains for a chance to destroy their brains further on TV as adults. All in the name of entertainment.
I saw an electronic billboard yesterday on the road that said "In Rememberance Today" or something like that and started getting angry thinking they were talking about Charlie Kirk but then I'm like, oh damn, I done forgot...
The information on the tiny amount of epstein files released might be titillating but the real meat and potatoes is in the rest of the huge mountain of information that they did not release.
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KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol · 186 pts · 333d
I think these fascists are trying to make him their "George Floyd". But unlike what the death of George Floyd represented (a wake-up call and a rallying chant against authoritarisnism, bigotry, institutionalized racism, and police brutality), this is a complete farse and a mockery, completely devoid of any meaning. He died for nothing except to give us some hilarious memes to laugh our asses off for no more than a week
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 333d
I strongly disagree.
I'll be laughing for much longer than a week.
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 333d
I smile when I think of the blood pouring from his neck.
Nazi lives don't matter.
OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 333d
There's no info about the shooter yet but I'm shutting up about Americans not taking action. At least for now.
ch00f@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 333d
My fuckwit uncle's response to comments about George Floyd was "well turns out he was an asshole."
So as long as someone's an asshole, it's okay to extra-judicially murder them.
PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 333d
Is your fuckwit uncle internally consistent or a racist?
ch00f@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 333d
Guess
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 333d
They're claiming it's their Reichstag fire.... They have somehow achieved a negative grasp of history. As in measured on a scale of 1 through 10, these people have a score of -5
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 333d
LillyPip@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 333d
Apparently, it’s this guy.
Family members turned him in, because even his own family doesn’t want to harbour this bigot.
And here’s a quick synopsis:
He’s exactly who you’d think. I, for one, am shocked /s. I guess Charlie wasn’t Nazi enough or something (according to Nick Fuentes in past statements, Charlie was a bit too ‘woke’, but we don’t know this lunatic’s motives yet, so I’m just speculating).
njm1314@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 333d
Not for nothing but we don't know if he's conservative or Republican at all. We know his family might be but we don't know he is.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 333d
Yeah, I hoped I was clear that some of this is speculation at this point.
Based on the photos, though….
I get we need to be extra cautious, but some things are a pretty clear pattern. If we find out he was a leftist dude radicalised by the centrism of Lawrence O’Donnell, I’ll actually be shocked.
njm1314@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 333d
I mean the only photos I've seen is a few of him with guns. Which in no way means he has to be a conservative. Lot of leftists are good with guns too.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 333d
It’s probably me – having that many photos with guns is weird. I get that’s an American thing, but it’s actually pretty weird. His interest seems like fetishisation to me.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 332d
You mean, a white male with a gun fetish actually shot and killed somebody? In the USA?!? Git outta here!
SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 332d
Currently, they try to eliminate a possible Groyper connection. That would either push out or entrench Nick Fuentes on a larger political scale.
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 105 pts · 333d
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 333d
NFL is the Millionaire CTE Scramble anyway, so I ain't watching that shit.
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 21 pts · 333d
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 333d
Baseball is even slower, IMHO
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 333d
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 333d
Agreed
kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 333d
Baseball, where you can play a whole game without getting sweaty unless it's hot and humid out.
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -1 pts · 333d
Bonesince1997@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 333d
Bro, where did you come up with that name 😂
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 333d
Took me a bit, but I'm glad it got you to laugh.
deacon@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 333d
Always Fuck The Cardinals
(But I’m positive the owners of my Cubs are fascist too so fuck the Ricketts also)
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 333d
barooboodoo@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 333d
Fuuuuck, I'm gonna regret asking but what'd the NHL do?
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 333d
barooboodoo@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 333d
Goddammit.
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 333d
ngdev@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 333d
wait what happened? im completely out of the loop on that
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 333d
It appears that capitalism is as effective as monarchies at producing soulless sycophants. Who would have thought.
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 333d
henfredemars@infosec.pub · 82 pts · 333d
NFL taking both knees these days.
cheers_queers@lemmy.zip · 70 pts · 333d
Got orders at work today to lower our flag to half staff in his honor. No mention of 9-11. This is a public school district :(
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 333d
Too bad the wires are malfunctioning and the message never arrived
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 333d
Also some damn kids tied knots in the flagpole rope, so that's gonna take a few days to fix
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 332d
Gross... If I were in charge of the flag, I would be trying to see if it were possible to fly it higher than usual.
jmsy@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 333d
The last time I checked, and fuck me if I'm wrong, the NFL has several black athletes. What did kirk say about black people?
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 83 pts · 333d
Calling the Civil Rights Act of 1964 a "huge mistake"
Describing Martin Luther King Jr. as "awful" and "not a good person"
Stated "If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to think, 'I hope he's qualified'"
Claimed successful Black women like Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, and Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson were "affirmative action picks" who "do not possess the cognitive capacity to be taken seriously"
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works · 32 pts · 333d
The league only cares about black athletes to the degree that it can profit off their performance.
Case in point: Colin Kaepernick knelt during the national anthem -- which was honestly an extremely mild form of protest -- and was immediately black-balled.
If they do care about black athletes, they clearly care about money a lot more.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 332d
The players are unionized, and the NFLPA has a lot of strong black voices in leadership if I recall (at least as of the last time I looked into it)... But yeah I doubt they'll do anything unfortunately.
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de · 13 pts · 333d
Remind me who the owners... wait, don't. Let's just look at a picture of the owners of the nfl.
Then think about how 'just' their presentation goes. Compare the owner and the 'peripheral' employees. There's a better picture that I can't find that is often used in sociology classes, where the owner of a team is in the presence of the cheerleaders and the players, and it can't be beat for showing that if you're a rich man wanting slaves and concubines, owning a team is pretty much the next best thing.
The sports associations are fucked.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 332d
NFL Players Association should stand up to this shit.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 333d
The fucking state of Virginia is calling for a moment of silence over this guy. What the hell is going on?
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 36 pts · 333d
They're martyrizing him. Goal is probably civil war and trans genocide.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 34 pts · 333d
And to bury the Epstein birthday book. Did anyone realize that the emails between Maxwell and Epstein were released yesterday?
https://www.newsweek.com/epstein-emails-private-account-2128274
damnedfurry@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 333d
Welp.
The article also doesn't mention those communications implicating anyone (alive) other than Maxwell, which isn't nothing, but definitely not the illumination people were hoping for, I don't think.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 333d
You're right, you made me dig a little further.
Edit: Here is one of the mentions of Trump:
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2025-jeffrey-epstein-emails-ghislaine-maxwell/
Here is what is on Prince Andrew:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/unsealed-documents-show-epstein-maxwell-correspondence-2015-n1235307
The email proves he knew Epstein at least as long as Epestein had the island up and running.
damnedfurry@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 332d
That's not enough to convict him of anything, though. It's sounding more and more like there won't be any smoking gun in these files, at least not when it comes to Trump specifically.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 333d
Oh damn I can't wait to faicism to fall now that the files are coming out.
Anytime now guys. Definitely not a distraction or a waste of time.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 333d
Idk, light magas around the edges might be swayed once they hear all of the times their leader acts like a pedophile and surrounds himself with pedophiles.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 333d
You think they don't know? It's not like this is a secret lol. He is a convicted felon.
But sure, the next felony will be the one I'm sure. Lmoa
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 333d
Yes. In fact, I'm certain they don't. You have to understand, Trump voters don't live in our reality. They live in a fabricated fantasyland created by the slop media they consume. They think Donald Trump is fighting the pedophiles, because that is what they have been told to believe. All of the attacks on him are "fake news" because they're from mainstream media sources, which they have been told to never trust.
If concrete evidence that they have been directly lied to is distributed to them by a source they trust, I can't say for sure what would happen, but it's probably the best chance for them to be deprogrammed.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 332d
So this will bring them into reality? Why would they start living in it now all of the sudden? They will create some alternate theory in their minds and cling to it if they have to.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca · -1 pts · 333d
Sound like you don't live in our reality my dude.
If you keep underestimating everyone who doesn't agree with you, it'll be difficult to think of true, inclusive change.
They know. And they understand. The just reach different conclusions and actions with the same information and capabilities as you.
Like you, most people aren't passive receptacles of what happens around them. But not everyone will react the same way or think the same thing as you.
That's doesn't mean they 'live in a fabricated fantasy land'. That's just the pc way to dehumanize people.
They are different people, and you need to see them as that if you actually care about them. Then you might be able to have honest, constructive conversations. People don't disagree with facts, they disagree with people.
And acting like they're stupid and you're God's smartest cookie is an easy way to get people to disagree with you.
Cheers.
djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 333d
You're just being condescending and seem to have never interacted with them person to person. I live here. I deal with them daily. I have heard them double down on insane nonsense that I don't know if you could dream of.
90% of what you said are inferences you are making. I understand they are victims of propoganda. It doesn't seem like you do.
Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 332d
My maga family (who I dont speak with since even before maga) all covered up the sexual crimes of the men in the family.
Maybe some folks it will sway, but honestly I highly doubt it would be a majority.
philosloppy@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 333d
the far-right establishment behind the Trump administration is preparing to use this as the justification for the incoming Reichstagsbrandverordnung.
They've got their van der Lubbe now and they're working to get their bullshit in before Nov 2026
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 333d
Wlthe fact that a nazi is called lube scares me tremendously
philosloppy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 333d
van der Lubbe was a communist who was executed for starting the Reichstag Fire...
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 332d
Oooo ty I didn't know that.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 333d
Bigots, racists, liars, and stochastic terrorists are the rights idols. That is what is going on.
theparadox@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 333d
The same thing that the billionaires have been doing. Paying fealty and demonstrating loyalty in the hopes of avoiding attack or maybe even getting rewarded.
Philharmonic3@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 333d
This doesn't matter at all. Release the Epstein files.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 333d
We need justice and closure for the survivors. That's why the files need to be released.
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works · 38 pts · 333d
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 333d
Me waking yesterday with no memory of whomst I was.
I am very sick.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 29 pts · 333d
every time i try to have a moment of silence for charlie kirk i end to giggling because that stupid fuck is in hell
LillyPip@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 333d
Unfortunately, there is no hell. We need to make sure horrible people get their comeuppance here, on earth.
Since it looks like he died near instantly, with no time to reflect on the damage he’d wrought, he basically escaped justice. On the plus side, he can’t do more damage. On the far larger negative side, he’s a martyr now.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 333d
If I believed in hell, I would do a little dance.
I believe that when you're dead, that's it, you're gone. And rightly so since that guy was a massive piece of shit and by all morality, deserved to die. And then the way he got killed? THAT makes me ACTUALLY do a little dance.
I can't wait for you know who... I'm gonna go into the street and do a little dance. Maybe even a big dance and have a party that lasts a week
moondoggie@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 333d
Man would I get my ass kicked once I started up my “CHARLIE KIRK’S IN HELL clap clap clapclapclap” chant during the moment of silence.
damnedfurry@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 333d
Deservedly so, since it's supposed to be four syllables before the claps, no more, no less. /s
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 333d
Carry around a couple of bricks. They wanna beat your ass? Hold a brick in each hand and start throwing punches back. You'll break your hands in the process if you hit them with your hands, but you'll also shatter any bones of theirs that you touch.
hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 333d
This is why if you want to start shit, you ride a motorcycle. Never get in a fight with someone wearing a motorcycle helmet.
Samuelwankenobi@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 333d
Boycott the NFL if you like American style football just watch Canadian or Australian football or even rugby they are all close enough and in some cases like Australian football I would say are better
scala@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 333d
Or avoid all sports 😉
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 333d
If you suggest this to a Canadian they'll rip out your spine, they could never give up hockey or seal clubbing.
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 332d
*ice hockey
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 332d
Or just attend university leagues. I don't even like football, mostly because I don't understand the rules, but this time of year I go to cheap to free university games.
Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 333d
It's not like I can boycott their garbage any more than I already do.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 333d
i forgor 💀
Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org · 14 pts · 333d
To quote Marilyn Manson:
"If you die when there's no one watching,
then your ratings drop and you're forgotten.
But if they kill you on their TV,
You're a martyr and a Lamb Of God. "
merc@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 333d
US sports (except maybe basketball) are very right-wing. I don't think they actually care one way or the other, but their audience is mostly boys and men, and boys and men are right wing these days, so the sports cater to that audience.
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 333d
I have a good time watching the game but the commercials make me wince.
The salute the troops makes me gag.
The nationalism disguised as patriotism … it’s honestly getting to be too much.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 333d
It's not just commercials, it's often also the commentators. They're not saying outright Nazi things, but, for example, they often they reminisce about how things used to be better, and complain about the current world.
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 333d
I imagine people won’t like to hear it, but there’s no denying that major sports teams rely on the same “in-group/out-group” dynamic that fascism relies on.
It may be a more benign form (for the most part), but the whole “my sports team is better than yours!” Is definitely tribalistic in nature. It’s not surprising to me that many die-hard fans may revel in arbitrary social divisions in other facets of their lives.
bstix@feddit.dk · 4 pts · 333d
I don't know if they do it in the US, but it's well known that Nazis in Europe are recruiting from the soccer fan clubs.
People turning their entire lives into revolving around artificial factions about a game they have no say in, and willing to get into physical fight over it, yeah, those are exactly who they want.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 333d
Fascism is about the in-group that gets to make rules that bind the out-group but not themselves. The important bit there is the enforcement of those rules with the state's monopoly on violence.
Merely having an in-group and an out-group is harmless on its own. It's how you have inside jokes. It's how you have friends who you can trust with secrets. It's how families work.
petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 333d
Having in-jokes with your friends is not tribalistic. I mean, it may be something a small tribe does—that's not what we're talking about.
Performative hatred of "the other ones", sports teams, clankers, what have you, scratches the same itch fascists love scratching. Obviously, that's something they can leverage.
OccamsRazer@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 333d
As if the left is immune to tribalism...
livejamie@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 333d
Studies have consistently shown a pretty even split, typically leaning Democratic. This trend aligns with American demographics and reflects the political landscape of the cities where these teams are located, which tend to be predominantly Democratic.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-every-nfl-teams-fans-lean-politically/ https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/action_networks_nfl_fan_base_politics_survey_which_way_is_your_team_voting/s1_17354_40754216 https://archive.learcenter.org/nflpolitics/index.html
I assume you were being hyperbolic when you said that boys and men are right-wing.
manxu@piefed.social · 1 pts · 333d
Not saying you are wrong at all, but EW
potato_wallrus@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 333d
Cool, another reason for me to hate football
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 333d
I said they weren't gonna, and they didn't. We got a big ol flag display outside town, the towns proud of it. It goes to half staff when appropriate. It did not fly half staff yesterday.
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 3 pts · 333d
My town too. Most flags at houses are being flown at full mast.
Like, flying a flag at all is questionable at best but it’s nice to know that most people clearly don’t care.
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org · 7 pts · 332d
It's all pop culture and social trend... Life's not about being an actual decent human being for most people.
livejamie@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 333d
It will likely happen before every football game this weekend.
Fox News will then publish a pearl-clutching compilation of people booing at college football games, and Trump will use that to justify defunding those institutions further.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 332d
i have a suggestion, and that's that everyone going to one of these events, cue up Entry of the Gladiators by Julius Fucik, have multiple copies downloaded on your phone ready to go at whatever public event you're at ready for that jackass' moment of silence, and blare it out your phone. count down one two three then whoever's ready plays at full volume. drown the motherfucker out.
kerntucky@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 333d
livejamie@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 333d
There are hundreds of College Football games that take place on Saturdays, although I think the moment of silence and pearl clutching will also occur at the NFL games on Sundays.
kerntucky@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 333d
livejamie@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 332d
Cheers
RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 333d
College football Tomorrow
Edit: nevermind,
4am@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 332d
Stadiums
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 332d
Makes me glad I stopped watching football years ago when it became clear that we were systematically destroying our childrens' brains for a chance to destroy their brains further on TV as adults. All in the name of entertainment.
No thanks.
livejamie@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 332d
Youth sports are tricky. Girls Soccer has nearly the same amount of concussions. (10.2 vs 8.4 per 1000)
Other sports can be just as dangerous (lacrosse, wrestling, hockey, rugby, etc.)
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 333d
At this point: All Buildings Matter
LillyPip@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 333d
None of those people mattered, duh.
frankpsy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 333d
I saw an electronic billboard yesterday on the road that said "In Rememberance Today" or something like that and started getting angry thinking they were talking about Charlie Kirk but then I'm like, oh damn, I done forgot...
njm1314@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 333d
I'm pretty sure there was something for 9/11 actually. It's been a while but I'm almost positive.
thegr8goldfish@startrek.website · 4 pts · 333d
This guy's right. Isn't that the one where they made Janet show us her titty? Never forget!
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 333d
If I'm there and they call for one for him, Ive got my clown music loaded and ready to go. "not for him", so say we all
opus86@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 333d
It's not eye opening if you have been paying attention. If you aren't with them, you are against them. It's very black and white for them.
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 332d
The information on the tiny amount of epstein files released might be titillating but the real meat and potatoes is in the rest of the huge mountain of information that they did not release.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 332d
As long as we remember Harambe