Democrats in House and Senate support 'National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk'

http://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/senate-passes-national-day-remembrance-charlie-kirk/story?id=125730824

Votes in the House were split with 90 Democrats voting in favor of the resolution. The resolution received unanimous support in the Senate.

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BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca · 161 pts · 358d (22 replies)

I really don't understand why the Dems are propping up an objectively horrible person.

I get why the pedo party is of course

coffee_nutcase207@lemmy.world · 83 pts · 358d

Why don't we have Melissa Hortman rememberance day? She was actually a politician.

balderdash9@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 358d (4 replies)

And I don't understand why they would choose October 14th, which is George Floyd's birthday.

edit: Apparently it's his birthday as well.

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 65 pts · 358d

Just refuse to acknowledge Carotid Artery Charlie and hijack that shit right back:

ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 358d

Because it's a chance to tacitly insult the late George Floyd, his family and friends, all his supporters, the 'other team', and the entire anti-racism movement that has pissed them off so much. They're not going to pass up an opportunity like that.

Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca · 15 pts · 358d

Early christians decided to make Xmas in December to align with when pagans were celebrating winter solstice, in order to appropriate the holiday for themselves.

Not saying that's entirely the reason, but it sure is convenient for them to add their noise.

paranoid@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 358d

It's also Charlie Kirk's birthday, just 20 years later

oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 30 pts · 358d (8 replies)

It’s because the democratic party at large is a fascist-lite party, so they have little qualms about honoring full blown fascists. That and they love nothing more than propping up the idea that we need to keep decorum up at all times.

FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 357d

They also operate under the absurd notion that they can sway Republican voters if they keep moving to the right.

AmidFuror@fedia.io · -20 pts · 358d (6 replies)

Not shooting your political opponents isn't just "decorum."

oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 40 pts · 358d (2 replies)

Honoring a guy who openly wanted genocide in Gaza and wanted to have trans people at home killed also isn’t “decorum” but I guess that’s too complex for you to understand

proper@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 358d (1 reply)
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stephen01king@piefed.zip · 8 pts · 358d

I don't understand how that's a counter to his point. Can you explain?

TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 358d (1 reply)

Which party member shot Charlie Kirk?

I can't believe that it's so hard for people to believe that someone who made a career being a hate monger was murdered for it.

The kid who killed him was not a politician, he didn't even vote. He was in a relationship with someone who belonged to a group that Kirk made money on by saying heinous shit about constantly.

Auli@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 357d

Is there proof he was had a trans girlfriend? I find it hard to believe with everything else coming out about him.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 357d

Where was the "decorum" for Melissa Hortman?

ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com · 23 pts · 358d

Performative civility. The dems would hold a vigil for Hitler if their consultants said it would appeal to uncommitted moderate voters.

Red0ctober@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 358d

Something something decorum.

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 357d

Because they are cucks. They like to watch our country get f***ed.

logicbomb@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 358d (1 reply)

I'm not a fan of the Democrats, except that they are the major opposition to the Republicans.

But if you actually want an answer why a theoretical good and honest politician might do something like this, it could be agreements behind the scenes.

If you could get Republicans to stop cutting the ACA subsidies, and the trade-off was something not tangible, like having a day of remembrance for a bad person, you might do it just to save lives.

It is a minority politician's job to make deals if it furthers their agenda. Obviously, I don't know if this is what happened here, but it's theoretically possible.

BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 358d

I sure hope so. Otherwise they are legitimizing a monster for nothing.

zbyte64@awful.systems · 2 pts · 357d

They ask more of people's ignorance than they do of their virtue.

devolution@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 358d

Fear. That's why. The right is so unhinged that they fear for their lives.

Not that they are going to be safe anyways.

BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca · 71 pts · 358d (2 replies)

🫸'National Day of Remembrance for Charlie Kirk'

👉 'National Anti Fascist Day'

Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de · 22 pts · 358d

We should have a paid public holiday for all the school shootings. Otherwise known as ubi.

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 357d

It's national police brutality awareness day, since it's literally also George Floyd's birthday.

Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 358d (5 replies)

Fuck Charlie Kirk.

pregnantwithrage@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 358d (4 replies)

I went and tried to find some redeeming quality about him and left with nothing. Still shouldn't have been killed but man he's not a person you would want to have a national holiday dedicated to.

Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 358d

tried to find some redeeming quality about him

He is dead? I'll take what I can get these days.

BetaBlake@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 358d (1 reply)

There literally isn't one redeeming quality

mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 358d

he probably tried to be a good father

I don't have to explain that obviously he failed

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 357d

Yup. Shouldn't have been murdered (thanks right wing nut job), but he was a real piece of shit.

scaredoftrumpwinning@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 358d (3 replies)

He's a influencer wtf. Yes no one should be murdered but he's an influencer are we saying the kids that are shot to death in school don't matter? Are we saying only when the rich and powerful in politics are murdered does it matter? I don't remember anything for the CEO of United healthcare.

Democrats stop appeasing the fascist!

blargh513@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 358d (1 reply)

They are complicit. We would not be here if they did their job. That leaves two options: they are wholly incompetent, stupid and unable or they knew and let it happen.

So many points could have prevented our current mess in just the last 10 years, much less the last 50 when this really started.

One easy example. When Scalia died, republicans made up the rule that his replacement could not be appointed by Obama because he was within a few months of the end of his term. Democrats did fucking NOTHING. There was no law that prevented appointintment, they were just being pussies.

That is one easy example that was well known. Now do that for 50 years and do it in every corner of government. They were more than happy to keep up the charade of opposing republicans as long as they got paid. They are the fucking Washington Nationals of politics.

scaredoftrumpwinning@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 358d

I would like to think the Dems were naive and that they didn't think the GOP would let the country burn. I might be naive in thinking that myself. I want to think that most didn't let it happen because they wanted to but didn't think the GOP would go this far. Of course when one party says they will not work with you at all why would you even try? That was true in Obama's day at least and I had no idea why he even tried.

It is obvious now like you said, if it isn't a law then the Dems shouldn't even bother. When Obama missed his opportunity for his SC pick (not that his pick was that good to begin with, it seemed to be an appeasement pick for the right) because it was too close to his end of term it didn't stop Moscow Mitch from letting Trump's pick go forward with just a week before the election. I really hope the Dems learned their lesson that the right will do whatever it takes to stay in power no matter the costs and stop appeasing them.

I feel we are losing because we are trying to do the right thing but if there is no law against it the Dems should do whatever they can to take the country back. They shouldn't be just asking for donations they need to do something. I have no idea if they have any legal means of doing anything with the GOP in charge but there could be other things. One idea I'm trying to get people to think about is getting together with the censored comedians and do a remember the first tour. If these comedians that have been censored by the networks show up to an event and some of the state Dems that were running were there that would at least get their names out. I would like to think that remember the first amendment might be a good unifier but I don't have any influence with anyone to make that happen. I'm trying to reach out to people but I personally don't know anyone high enough to get the word out.

proper@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 358d
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QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip · 59 pts · 358d (1 reply)

nkat2112@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 358d

Thank you for posting this.

EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml · 37 pts · 358d (1 reply)

Including Rep Sarah McBride, open trans member of Congress voted to memorialize someone that was openly transphobic.

ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl · 9 pts · 358d

Same corporate shills, different bumper stickers.

sbbq@lemmy.zip · 33 pts · 358d (5 replies)

What an absolutely disgusting display for a monstrous human. It's like having a national day of mourning after they killed Dracula.

orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 358d

He sucked.

sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 358d

Well, this is what happens when half your government is blood drinking monsters and the other half exists only to appease blood drinking monsters

xyzzy@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 358d
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RaoulDuke@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 358d (1 reply)

Reverse Dracula. He shoots blood instead of sucking.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 355d

Horst Carotid-Wessel.

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 358d (1 reply)

They f-ing agreed to that? OK, they are beyond help.

3abas@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 358d

They are nice fascists, and the sooner liberals realize that, the sooner you can move on to revolution and fix the country.

nozone@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 358d (2 replies)

Hijack the day and turn it into a memorial for all gun violence victims, it will piss off the Republicans and maybe do a little good. Probably not though.

Typhoon@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 358d (1 reply)

I love this idea.

DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 358d

Agree, genius! We could also hijack it as "Political Assassination Victims Day" and cover Epstein!

PartTimeWarrior29@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 358d

This makes me feel sick

grue@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 358d

Celebrate Kirk's death. Burn him in effigy. Call it "a good start."

selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 357d

Fuck that.

I ain't celebrating the life of some racist misogynistic shithead.

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 357d

The democrats (most of them) are such fucking cucks.

kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 358d

The short sighted idiots don't see that is not just innocently agreeing to making a special day for a dead guy that ultimately doesn't matter. It's bait for the regime to punish those who criticize and mock the day. There will be people who lose jobs and worse over this farce.

FarrellPerks@feddit.uk · 13 pts · 357d

It's rough to see how spineless many of the Democrats are. It's difficult for us in Europe to understand but the democrats are quite right-wing, akin to the conservative party in the UK for example. So when people see the supposed 'left-wing' party in the US pulling shit like this it confuses them.

JailElonMusk@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 358d

I don't know about you guys, but I'm going to donate to an LGBTQ+ organization to Celebrate a New Tradition for my favorite holiday.

I'll make a $20 donation in his honor, come on guys we can start a tradition.

Bwaz@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 357d

That's ridiculous.

MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 357d

Each vote by a POS idiot.

13igTyme@piefed.social · 11 pts · 358d

So now were honoring dead Nazis?

wildcardology@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 357d

Disgusting.

Skiluros@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 358d (1 reply)

"Charlie was a good man -- a devout husband, father, and friend. His life was shaped by his faith and the idea that in America, debate and discussion are crucial to the betterment of our country," Scott said on Thursday.

Kirk was almost certainly a demagogue who believed in nothing and was willing to shill any copytext from oligarchs and the American far right for his own material benefit. Only a fool would deny the irony of Kirk getting a taste of his own medicine (one last time).

But the funny thing is that they are showing extreme disrespect to Kirk (after he was gunned down no less) by essentially stating that he was a gullible idiot who lacked the mental capacity to evaluate American political culture. And how was his life shaped by faith? If his life was shaped by faith he wouldn't have focused on politics.

Kyrgizion@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 358d

His life was shaped by the faith that what happened to him was fair game, as long as it kept happening to someone else.

It was simply his turn. Sooner than he expected.

Kolanaki@pawb.social · 9 pts · 357d

I was cut off in traffic today and they had written "God bless Charlie Kirk" on their back window which just made me even angrier than the fact they cut me off.

Randomgal@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 358d

Lol, but don't worry guys. Your democrat billionaires car aboutt you and will save you they are definitely not the same.

Lol.

proper@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 358d (1 reply)
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13igTyme@piefed.social · 4 pts · 358d

Wow 118 Dems and 4 Repubs actually have a spine.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 358d

Fucking traitorous scum!

LoafedBurrito@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 357d

Democrats don't want to be attacked by the right wing extremists, so they coddle them and give them what they want.

This is exactly how Nazi Germany came to be and we need to stop acting like it's not.

Charlie Kirk is personally responsible for many people committing suicide due to his harsh views and his viewers base that spews hate at people they don't like.

He deserves nothing.

BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 358d

Vote BLUE No Matter WHO (UNLESS The Blue is someone the DNC DOESNT like!) so we can Turn this Holiday BACK to nothing! IF we can Convince ALL THE DEMOCRATS WHO VOTED FOR IT to Change their votes!

zbyte64@awful.systems · 6 pts · 357d

He will condone the bad in order to prevent the worse and in so doing no longer discern that the very thing that he seems to avoid as worse might well be better. This is where the basic material of tragedy is to be found.

  • Dietrich Bonhoeffer, "After Ten Years"
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 357d

I expected some quislings in the house, but the entire senate? Do better, dems. At least tell us what you got for this n

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 358d

Can I celebrate the remembrance by watching the clip of him getting shot on repeat?

FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 358d

Most of them probably didn't even care about Kirk much when he was alive

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 357d

Horst Wessel Day

resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 358d

Get your favorite Charlie Kirk quote ready. I'm partial to his one about black pilots.

evilcultist@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 358d
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ChonkyLincoln@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 358d

Fuck that! They might as well add Hitler and Osama Bin Laden’s birthday to the list as well while theyre at it