Trump refuses to meet ‘Radical Left Democrats’ Schumer and Jeffries to avert shutdown

Funny to think of the right viewing the, globally speaking, center-right as “radical left”. The level of hyperbole and hypocrisy from the right is stupefying.

This is a major part of the problem we're in. And I'm sorry but I'm going to "both sides" a bit because there is plenty of blame to toss around.

Democrats and Republicans have both been upping the rhetoric for decades, describing their political opponents in harsher and scarier terms. Most politicians did so understanding that it was all basically just "campaign talk" and not really true. But it gets votes so you do it. You can see this when you see retired politicians giving interviews where their language is much softer and reasonable than when they were in office.

Republicans turned it up to 11 quicker than Democrats though - and Donald Trump and his followers actually believed the rhetoric rather than understanding that it was just campaign BS.

Or even regular left.

Yep. They might actually do something.

According to the very special imperial political spectrum created by the USA, they are leftists! Of course this has no bearing on reality, a perfect fit for our country the United Scammers and Assholes.

Schumer et al: "best we can do is write some sternly worded letters"

They need to shut it down AND call for a nationwide general strike. And then we don’t stop until every Republican has been removed from government, gerrymandering has been outlawed and fixed, and RCV is the law of the land.

They're going to let the shutdown happen but they're not going to point the blame where it needs to go. They're going to be spineless and let the Republicans blame them for the shutdown.

They absolutely have to shut it down. That said, if they lose the messaging game (they will) they will absolutely lose this fight.

That's exactly what Republicans want. They've already proven previously that the people don't actually care about a shutdown occurring. And that just lets t hem further reduce government expenses. The things that get shutdown are things they can't grift from anyway so they don't care about them.

Shutting it down would be giving him what he wants: expanded powers and no one to answer to (because the government is shut down).

Do you know the way to Shell Beach?

Except a government shutdown doesn't shut down the entire government. It shuts down Congress and many executive agencies while expanding the powers of the president; and one of the heads of the executive branch, nominated by Trump, is one of the authors of Project 2025.

Everything left of themselves are radical to Facists. Alex Jones got a lot of leeway back in Bush days because people thought him being against Bush meant he was closer to center, but it was the opposite. Bush wasn't terrible enough for Jones.

Same with Fuentes and Kirk really; groypers attacked TPUSA mostly for not being racist enough to Jews.

The Chuck that comes crawling to "find a compromise". With Nazis.

Anyone left of "Shooting the homeless for sport" is a radical leftist.

It's the new woke.

Don't worry, I'm sure they will find some moral-grandstanding excuse to avoid doing it.

You think it'll reopen?

Never open back up

You're not radical or left enough to have gone all the way around to being extremely right... it's like a circle...

Edit: people obviously didn't get the joke 🤷‍♂️

Pots been boiling for years, the right just put a lock on the lid like a pressure cooker.

The other subtext is coloring Schumer and Jeffries as terrorists.

More evidence for the next Nuremberg trials.

They're going to do all that that anyway. Trying to argue that we should give them what they want because they might do bad things otherwise is a quite absurd position considering all the terrible and illegal things they've done already and helping them in their pursuits is exactly what the Democrats have been doing this entire time.

What would the donors think?

It's called Propaganda.

I bet he'll even follow it up with a strongly worded letter with at least 3 very strong points addressed to whomever will pay attention to him.

I know that was Schumer's excuse last time, but I'm not sure that really adds up. The federal courts can still fund themselves for a few weeks after a shutdown. Also, the lower courts are slowing Trump down, but the Supreme Court is consistently ruling in his favor. If anything, he should want the courts to be running as quickly as possible so he can keep appealing and getting the Supreme Court to overturn all the restrictions the lower courts are placing on him.

Plus, while ICE is being designated an essential agency and ICE agents are expected to fulfill their full duties during a shutdown, they do it without pay (and get back-pay when the shutdown ends). That's not a big deal for a week, but if you stretch a shutdown out for a month, that starts to hurt. I'd like to see how loyal Trump's dogs are when they're not getting fed.

Because all those precious checks and balances work right?

No pay for ICE et. Al.

The judges are helping him push P2025...

Because he's a brainless goblin that thinks that in any situation there has to be a winner and a loser, and he has to be the winner or he would be the loser. So if he doesn't think he can win a situation he will refuse to engage in it, because he has the emotional maturity of a 4-year-old

He doesn’t care. It’s an easy way to appease his base. “Lefty lefty left”

Trump and Scotus figure out a way to not have a shut down without democrat involvement.

When all rules are optional, that part isn't really an "if"

A normal funding bill would require 60 Senate votes. They don't have that.

Things can always get worse.

This is my fear. The only things that will be shut down are the systems & courts that are currently slowing the march of fascism (somewhat). Of course they'll find the funds to continue domestic terrorism.

I don't think Trump is bothering with legality at this point. I don't expect he would stop spending in a shutdown, even if legally required.