‘I would say they're too expensive because we inherited a disastrous Biden economy, and we're making progress,’ the Vice President told Fox News
JD Vance admits the prices of groceries and housing are “too expensive” but once again has laid blame at the feet of the "disastrous Biden economy,” despite the Trump administration having taken the reins more than eight months ago.
“Housing is too expensive, groceries are too expensive. Now, I would say they're too expensive because we inherited a disastrous Biden economy, and we're making progress,” Vance said, speaking to Fox News’ The Ingraham Angle.
The vice president made the remarks Friday when discussing the struggling U.S. economy and its potential link to a surge in popularity for Democratic New York mayoral hopeful Zohran Mamdani.
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shittydwarf@piefed.social · 173 pts · 319d
Is this "Biden" in the White House with you right now?
KingGordon@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 319d
Its rent free n their heads.
glitch1985@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 319d
BDS
DrMartinu@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 319d
He's still finding his hair between the couch cushions
Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 319d
It gets stuck in his teeth
MML@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 318d
Well he is searching really hard
Caffeinated_Sloth@lemmy.world · 104 pts · 319d
No, it was/is supply shock. Two giant global events, pandemic and Russian invasion, disrupted global trade and screwed up supply chains. Things were normalizing until Dumbass took the reins and decided to fuck up the supply chain on purpose with shitty trade policy.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 319d
The housing market problems go back to the housing market crash in the 2000s. It allowed the rich to completely lock up existing supply while at the same time freezing new construction. So now there is no path to home ownership for the vast majority of North Americans. This is unfortunately not a US only problem, it’s a capitalism problem.
politicalincorruption@lemmy.world · 82 pts · 319d
Bizarrely? Republicans deliberately taking no responsibility at all is as normal as the sun rising and setting.
Zeppo@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 319d
Right. It is bizarre, but certainly not surprising or unusual. Just the same deranged playbook where everything bad is the previous administration’s fault.
bcgm3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 318d
We'll see this exact headline presented unironically as news every few months for the full duration of the Turd Reich.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 319d
How do you mean? You don't think tarrifs are helping Americans? You don't think hiring idiots and incompetent assholes will ruin us all?
Apshh. Okay.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 76 pts · 319d
In my lifetime I’ve never seen Conservatives take personal accountability for any of the consequences of their actions. They are so used to being entitled little babies that they always have to cry victim and find a scapegoat to blame. They refuse to even have productive national conversations on the results of their failed policies. On the flip side I have seen democrats take personal responsibility and try to fix mistakes as flawed as their party is. Conservatives on the other hand capitalize on the democrats taking personal accountability and just double down on their denial while escalating their bad behavior.
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 50 pts · 319d
Because their playbook is literally "blame the outgroup".
The guy was literally standing in front of eggs clearly priced at $2.99 and blamed Harris for being priced $4.
When caught on camera for lying, the guy says "I was told there wouldn't be fact checking", which was in it of itself a lie.
OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 318d
That's what shattered the illusion of Christianity for me as a younger person. Horrible individuals hiding behind an institutional veil of morals.
The past ten years have been even more illuminating. As all of these sorts of issues have been brought to the forefront. One of the common themes I've noticed is that the Venn diagram of these types of Christians / conservatives is the overlap is nearly a perfect circle with abusers.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 318d
It is a defining characteristic of the ideology at this point.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 62 pts · 319d
These assholes came in and fucked everything up and then have the fucking balls to blame Biden for their obvious failures.
No way in fucking hell they'd be able to get away with this level of propaganda if it weren't for the Republican Noise Machine, but a whole lot of dumbfucks believe that the economy under Biden was terrible and that Taco is working to fix it.
Biden's economy was described as the envy of the world, a Goldilocks economy, etc. And these chucklefucks will stand there with a shit-eating grin and use phrases like "we inherited a disastrous Biden economy". Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social · 11 pts · 319d
If you think the economy of 2021-2024 was 'goldilocks' I think you're conflating massive AI investment with a "good economy"
Unless your job was developing and implementing AI solutions, you were probably getting fucked. The majority of big companies implemented RTO for softlayoffs, and then warn notices were a record outside of the pandemic year for 2023 reaching nearly 350k roles.
Signs right now point to AI literally holding the company up as greedy CEOs and Boards shoot for infinite money machines that will never materialize with current AI/ML techniques and methodologies. When that slumps the stupid valuation of companies like nvidia are going to bomb so hard the great depression of the 21st century will be underway.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 7 pts · 319d
Not to mention the fallout of the PPP grift, a massive transfer of wealth that we're still paying for in inflation. The best you can say about that is that it was a bipartisan $1t ratfucking of the working class.
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social · 11 pts · 319d
Pretty much. The ownership fuck us and for some stupid reason the ignorant middle class on either side thinks that somehow it could be good for them, depending on if it's their guy in office or not.
I'm a true leftist liberal. I'm 100% pro labor. That means I am neither democrat nor republican. The closest thing in the democrat party that's aligned with my beliefs is Bernie, and they shit on him when he almost got traction.
Never forget that term limits were established for FDR because he was similarly pro-labor and got elected to four fucking terms because of all the good he did for the many. Ever since him all the politicians have done is chip away at what was built. Obamacare was a token effort by comparison to what he accomplished.
blargle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 319d
I don't know why this post got down voted but Cory Doctorow agrees with you.
Only upside is whenever this bubble pops it's going to be on Trump's watch. ( How confident is the maga regime in their ability to fix the next two elections...? )
Maybe they are fine with a crash of the stock market and then the whole dollar-based economy because they are going all in on crypto.
desmosthenes@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 319d
same as the last time - hence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Rescue_Plan_Act_of_2021 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_Reduction_Act
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 319d
Trump literally put tariffs on food you fucktard.
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 319d
"No, you are wrong, it was a knock on from bidens economy...ok, you are not wrong but slightly incorrect. And by that I mean yes you are completely correct that it wasn't biden at all, and completely the tangerine imbeciles fault but I was also say that I'm waffling on and being distracting. However by this point tRUMPs base of complete idiots will have totally tuned out and will only remember the first words about it being bidens fault.
Also, don't mention the Epstein list, or how the orange fucktard raped children. We are distracting people from all that as well"
Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 319d
Crazy how grocery prices and housing prices are both low and high at the same time. Republicans are really having a Schrodinger's economy right now.
brown567@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 319d
"The [economy] is both strong and weak"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism
Telorand@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 319d
Nice, I hadn't heard of this book. I will be reading it later!
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 318d
It's not a book, it's like a 9 page essay and you can easily find a PDF of it.
It should be required reading for every adult in a "free" society.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 319d
They will kill you and your family with the military if you disagree because disagreement is terrorism
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 318d
It’s good to know my opinions terrify those in power.
SethTaylor@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 318d
They'll be blaming Biden in 2028. Trump will run for a third term and still pretend he's running against Biden. Joe Biden might literally die by then and Trump will still be taking jabs at him and calling him "too old".
"Don't you want a president who's only half decomposed?", he will say. And the crowds will cheer.
scala@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 318d
Here's hoping this orange clown doesn't get past 2025.
aceshigh@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 318d
What 2028 election? Let’s see how 2026 goes.
CandyPants@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 319d
Maybe if they cut my bosses taxes a few more times I'll start to prosper???
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 318d
Trickle down!!
CandyPants@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 318d
Its working! Its working!
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 19 pts · 319d
Nah, prices have continuously gone up since you idiots took over. Your fucking trade war BS isn't helping.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 318d
Now you can't blame it all on their trade policies. They also snatch people off the streets that we rely on for food and construction work.
Lembot_0004@discuss.online · 19 pts · 319d
msmc101@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 40 pts · 319d
pretty easy to make it not worse though, which they are distinctly not doing. you reeeeaaaalllly wanna defend this administration in like anyway?
LodeMike@lemmy.today · -5 pts · 319d
Is this "they're making it worse" in the above argument?
mean_bean279@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 319d
That counter argument only works if you plugged your ears every time they said they would have it fixed in the first week or that the tariffs would make it better quickly.
the_q@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 319d
Lembot_0004@discuss.online · 17 pts · 319d
jj4211@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 318d
I can see that perspective, but for the more sophisticed we can describe the tariffs and labor issues.
It's also fair game because he kept saying "day one" he was totally going to fix things. If he's stupid enough to make those claims, he deserves to be evaluated against those claims, no matter how impossible they would be in the best of times.
Zeppo@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 319d
Classic Republican playbook. Same shit over and over again for decades now… everything bad is a Democrat’s fault and everything good is to their credit. And their chumps enthusiastically believe that, literally. It’s much like a narcissistic personality disorder person in a relationship. Can’t admit fault, weakness, apologize, very hypocritical, so on
Bonesince1997@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 319d
This mimics religion for me; what I've heard and/or interpreted. (Not my personal belief.) Everything good is god's doing, while everything bad is a person's failing. It's such a load of crock to live by, yet it seemingly thrives in people's minds.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 318d
Oops looks like we elected people who cant fix "the damage biden did." Impeachment anyone?
jj4211@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 318d
Sure, must have nothing at all to do with massive tariffs on food and construction supplies and arresting a lot of the food and construction workers.
F_State@midwest.social · 3 pts · 318d
That's only the most recent reason making things worse.
J92@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 319d
This stuff boils my piss. The same thing happens in the UK. I get that you need to show restraint to maintain access but there shouldn't be anything wrong with posing their argument as a negative!
"So you're saying this administration is failing to get a grip on the economy?" Even if he responds, he'll be angry, angry people make mistakes. Or even then just say, "Perfect, youre responding with feeling instead of thought: how does it feel knowing your boss is in the epstine files?"
How the hell can no one get a grip on this narrative.
Just turn to the camera and ignore them! "You heard it here first! The VPJD has no confidence in the administration!"
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 318d
The worst part is, as soon as the other side is in charge, it's suddenly on them now and not the previous administration like it was before.
And people fucking buy it
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 318d
When people treat politics like a team sport this is where you end up. My team can do no wrong and I will go to the mat to defend them.
MML@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 318d
But, but, Gold Team rules!
immutable@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 318d
It is also infuriating because Biden spent his term dealing with the fallout of Covid.
Americans got totally fucked during the pandemic. The government handed out a one time payment to some of the population that wouldn’t be enough to cover a months rent on a single bedroom apartment.
They then did the paycheck protection program where they handed out gobs of money to business owners. These “loans” were forgiven and plenty of wealthy business owners just ended up pocketing piles of money.
So you have an incompetent trump government failing to do public health policy, then only helping the owner class, causing massive inflation.
The republicans always do this. They take over a healthy economy, pass policies that supercharge it in the short term but are completely unsustainable in the long term.
The economy crashes, the voters put a democrat in office, the democrat spends their term cleaning up the mess, and then gets shit for having a crappy economy.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 318d
They're journalists, they don't even know they are the porblem.
__Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 318d
They aren't journalists, they are fox news entertainers.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 318d
Laser@feddit.org · 7 pts · 317d
Saving this in case my employer wants to send me to the US
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 319d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_Biden_administration
jj4211@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 318d
Basically, the Biden administration economy was just along for the wild ride of post pandemic and Russian war nonsense, both the ups and downs.
Generally speaking I don't believe in the usual "the economy is whatever the president makes if it", though Trump's policies are unusually terrible economically, so I guess he's convinced me that presidents can be mostly responsible for economy, at least a bad one.
Ilixtze@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 319d
This Nazi government is going to spend a lot of money killing unarmed people in Venezuela, but The working people in america are homeless and starving. The average workers will be in jail if they forget to pay taxes spent in bombs and munition while the millionaire oligarchs Kissing trump's ass get billions in tax breaks.
F_State@midwest.social · 8 pts · 318d
Well, he sure can't blame the ultra-wealthy oligarchy that groomed him to wield power on their behalf.
Kurious84@lemmings.world · 7 pts · 319d
What about La-Z-boy
moopet@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 319d
How is this "bizarre"? It's totally on brand.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 318d
svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 317d
Are you the current administration?
Yes: Blame the previous administration.
No: Blame the current administration.
ConHoliousDonFrankle@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 319d
The only response to this bullshit is pointing out to the Davenport Diddler that they promised a fix day one. They said it would be easy.
hopesdead@startrek.website · 6 pts · 319d
To an outsider, yes that can be seen as bizarre. To someone who lives here, that is simply what they do.
Querch@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 319d
They know that their base is gullible enough to lap this up. Give them slop and they will eat slop.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 319d
Everything good is the fault of the most recent president from your party, everything bad is the fault of the most recent president from the opposing party
Octavio@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 318d
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 319d
Fuckhead knows jack about economic cause and effect. All he knows is how to emulate his orange daddy's lying ways
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 318d
The most important part is that his voters knows diddly squat about economics so will swallow this hook and line
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 319d
They’d blame Biden for gravity existing.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 319d
Biden? Not Obama?
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 318d
He can hardly blame the real reason, or he'd be out of his job in a minute.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 318d
Before that it was Obama
TheTurner@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 319d
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 319d