Trump Classifies “Anti-Capitalism” as a Political Pre-Crime

You know, I think the admin trying to make thought crime a thing actually deserves attention.

Honest, genuine question: would there be any point in this descent into fascism where you'd give up on this tactic?

I suppose I can still understand it at this stage: most conflict is still abroad, only 9 months in to the presidency, and the Epstein revelations are still fresh, but how long will you push this?

Will you still be shouting about Epstein once the first protestor is killed by ICE? What about after the first civilian doors are busted down? What about after trans people are definitively criminalized? What about after the first train is loaded up? What about after the first mass grave is discovered? What about after a few tens of thousands of Americans have been exterminated?

I'm not saying everything above is going to happen, but supposing they did, would you still be shouting Epstein? Because at this point, it appears as if you, along with the rest of the Epstein crowd, will be shouting about it regardless of however far we are into the fascist descent. I dont understand that.

Mate, you're getting distracted from the erosion of democracy by only thinking about some fucking papers that we all know implicate him already.

why do you guys always bring up this image when the US is doing shit like this or blatantly attacking minorities, but never when it’s about trump’s fucking ballroom or whatever

Fuck. Off.

Even if it was, you're allowed to be opposed to something in the constitution. That's why we have amendments.

Well, it actually kind of is, defining capitalism as the right to personally own the means of production.

Fifth Amendment, private property may not be seized for public use without just compensation. There are others that speak to it as well but that's the most commonly pointed to "Constitutional guarantee of capitalism"

You could argue that that merely protects the monetary value of individual capitalists though, so for a collectivization program you'd just pay out cash for shares as you nationalize (or whatever) the industry.

Also every state that allows civil asset forfeiture is in a criminal conspiracy against your constitutional rights but for some reason conservatives don't actually care that much.

That’s a funny word for a “corruption”

Yeah! Isn’t deporting your workforce kind of anti-capitalist as well?

A flimsy justification for the evil shit they were already planning to do

It's like pre cum. A tiny dribble to facilitate the real crime load.

Holy disinformation, dude, wtf!

Being pro-fascism is also anticapitalist

The opposite is true: fascist regimes worked hand-in-hand with big business. Many companies thrived under fascism, like IBM making the Holocaust more efficient, Mercedes-Benz used over 30,000 forced laborers in their factories, and major corporations like Ford, GM, and IG Farben made massive profits from Nazi war production. Rather than destroying capitalism, fascist "corporatism" actually destroyed labor unions while preserving private property and business profits. Fascist economic programs "favored the wealthy far more than the middle class and working class" — their anti-capitalist rhetoric was just propaganda to win support, not actual policy. The reality is that fascism represents capitalism's authoritarian mode during crisis, not its replacement.

And that’s not even the kind of critical analysis a socialist would put forward.

Fascism and capitalism work hand in glove. Capitalism is a key aspect of fascism.

How have 30+ people upvoted this? Are people that misinformed?

I just heard the other day that Mussolini supposedly said “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power”, but this is apparently not something that can be found that he has said. Still, it's not really wrong.

From duck.ai:

The Disputed Quote

The quote "Fascism should be called corporatism" is most likely an unconfirmed internet attribution that cannot be definitively traced to Mussolini's actual writings or speeches. Specifically:

Verification Status: Unconfirmed
    According to sources like SourceWatch, the quote is considered an "internet hoax"
    Researchers like Chip Berlet (noted as Cberlet) have stated that no one can find an actual citation for this specific quote

Conceptual Context
    While Mussolini did develop theories about the relationship between state and corporate power, this exact phrasing appears to be a modern paraphrase rather than a direct quote
    The concept of corporatism was indeed central to fascist ideology, which emphasized a tight integration between state power and economic institutions

Historical Interpretation

The misattributed quote reflects a genuine historical insight about fascist political philosophy:

Fascism, particularly in Mussolini's Italy, promoted a model where:
    The state had extensive control over economic institutions
    Corporations were seen as extensions of state power
    Economic entities were organized into state-controlled syndicates or associations

Modern Scholarly Perspective

Contemporary scholars like David Graeber have noted that the structural similarities between different political systems (social democracy, fascism, state communism) are more complex than traditional narratives suggest. The quote, while likely apocryphal, captures a kernel of truth about how power can be distributed between state and corporate entities. Conclusion

The specific quote is an unverified attribution. While it captures something meaningful about fascist ideology, it should not be presented as a direct Mussolini quote without rigorous historical verification.