'We're not entirely sure what's going on': Jordan Peterson taken down by moldy room, daughter raises possibility of 'spiritual attack'

https://wegotthiscovered.com/politics/were-not-entirely-sure-whats-going-on-jordan-peterson-taken-down-by-moldy-room-daughter-raises-possibility-of-spiritual-attack/

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Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 222 pts · 314d (17 replies)

So, the champion of cleaning your room :

  • Is addicted to drugs
  • Can't keep a room tidy for shit.

Amazing.

dumbass@aussie.zone · 57 pts · 314d (9 replies)

Am I Jordan Peterson?

I fucking hope I'm not.

beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 314d (8 replies)

Idk name checks out

dumbass@aussie.zone · 25 pts · 314d (7 replies)

Jordan Peterson isn't a dumbass, he's a fucking idiot, completely different, dumbasses are fun and have redeemable qualities about them, we don't know what we're doing, but we're having fun doing it, fucking idiots are just miserable sacks of shit with no redeemable qualities at all.

But I could be wrong , I don't know wtf I'm doing anymore.

beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 314d

Dw nobody does and never have. Bet your a cool guy šŸ˜Ž. Have a good 1.

Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 314d (1 reply)

I would describe the difference by how the person responds to the labeling.

A shrug or even bettter a smile, that's a dumbass and they know it.

An angry or defensive response, that's an idiot and they cannot accept it.

dumbass@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 314d

Akasazh@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 314d (3 replies)

I'm not sure. You are the one confused about you being Jordan Peterson or not.

I guess that the question boils down to to having redeemable qualities. At least using your own definition.

If you have them then you aren't Jordan Peterson, of you don't than I have bad news.

dumbass@aussie.zone · 10 pts · 314d (2 replies)

It was more a joke about me smoking weed and not being able to keep a room tidy for shit.

But just for the record: I do not, have never, nor will ever agree with the views of the crying lobster benzo bitch boy named Jordan Peterson, not in this reality or any of the other realities where he spouts this insane shit through more tears than an onion cutting convention.

Akasazh@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 314d (1 reply)

I was pretty sure you had redeemable qualities, I was joking too, as I was pretty sure you weren't actually Jordan Peterson ;)

dumbass@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 314d

Yeah I just wanted to talk shit about Him more.

Like I don't understand how these people think he's amazing, he's the worst representation of good mental health I've seen since I looked in the mirror, it's like a crackhead telling you to stop taking drugs.... Wait, he is a crackhead telling you to stop taking drugs and clean your room.. Of course cleaning your room is going to make you feel better you fucking moron, he needs to go back into that induced coma for a while.

beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 314d

Man I hate hypocrites he can easily hire someone. Cheap cunt

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 314d

It's always projection with these people.

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 314d (3 replies)

He just needs to be addicted to different drugs. Kick the Kpins and pick up a coke habbit... Problem solved.

Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 314d (2 replies)

Kpins and pick up a coke habbit

Musk is using k, Peterson prefers benzos.

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 314d (1 reply)

Kpin is not K.

Kpin is short for Klonopin or Clonazepam.

Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 314d

I am outdated in my drug slang. thank you for making this thread more accurate

jimmy90@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 313d

i think it was a spiritual attack

satan has come to claim what was owed from his minion. his time is up

dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works · 110 pts · 314d (5 replies)

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 314d

Lmfao that quote is incredible

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 314d

I cannot tell if this is a real quote or not but I really fucking hope that it is

Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 15 pts · 314d

Is this real ?

CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 313d

This could also be zizek without the crying.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 310d

So apparently benzo boi has some issues with taking the dirt road.

I've found some mud for my turtle over the years, but I don't recall ever slaying a dragon. Not even metaphorically. Some partners really liked it, though. My own attitude was more like "yeah, OK, if you're into it" rather then fetishizing it or elevating it to some cosmic battle between order and chaos.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 85 pts · 314d (54 replies)

I don't like the man, he seriously sucks, but he needs an official wellness check. He's clearly becoming increasingly mentally disabled and things like this keep happening in his daughter's custody.

That's not a spiritual attack, it's mold induced pneumonia in a man with brain damage. He could easily be less capable of resisting the mold. Why the fuck was a man with brain damage trying to clean a moldy room without assistance‽

Like, seriously for all I hate the man I really get no joy from this, I don't want him taken away as punishment or anything, I'm mostly concerned for him. I don't think that the Peterson of a decade ago would be putting the Peterson of today in these positions.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 56 pts · 314d (10 replies)

My empathy is with the mold in this conflict.

krooklochurm@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 314d (8 replies)

How would you define mold? How would you define conflict? How would you define is? That's what I thought.

spacemint_rhino@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 314d (5 replies)

(Kermit voice) What do you mean by mold? Mold in the metaphysical interpretation is a the creeping darkness of social isolation in the post modern environment that young men find themselves. Mold is the hidden predator that consumes even the dragon, the darkness that reflects the greater unknown that surrounds even the leviathan. If you take Moby Dick for instance, mold is the true antagonist, the great depths that surround and threaten both the protagonist, your physical self, and the whale, your metaphysical antithesis! It’s perplexing and I’m just on the verge of being able to understand it and perceive it, it’s right on the verge of my limitations to understand! tears up

WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 314d (2 replies)

Real good! I felt like I was listening to him being interviewed.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · -2 pts · 314d (1 reply)

Or any other psychology prof on any campus.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 314d

Definitely not the ones I’ve talked to, and I’ve talked to many. Well, one of them kinda…fit the mold.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 4 pts · 314d (1 reply)

Mold in the metaphysical interpretation is a the creeping darkness of social isolation in the post modern environment that young men find themselves.

That is an almost perfect Peterson sentence. Except, remove the mold, it's too concrete:

The metaphysical interpretation is the creeping darkness of social isolation in the post modern environment that young men find themselves.

Now you can shuffle the building blocks around however you wish!

The creeping darkness is the metaphysical interpretation of the post modern environment that young men find social isolation in.

Etc.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 310d

Hmm, that's the sort of post-modernist textual word game that Peterson claims to oppose. And yet it sure as shit sounds like him.

Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 314d

Some of my best friends are mold.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 310d

Hey, nice seeing you on here, JP!

Just keep on keepin' on. I'm surprised you haven't also got Morgellons and fibromyalgia. And get one of those mold testing kits from Home Depot and ask a responsible adult to swab a few samples and mail it back. At least that might narrow things down a bit.

Also, consider the possibility that your daughter's a whackjob.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 314d

Yeah, I mean seriously. What did the mold do to deserve being exposed to this asshole?

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 314d (9 replies)

He absolutely would if he thought he belonged to one of the out-groups to be persecuted. This fucker has shown no empathy towards others and has played a big part in the rise of fascism we're seeing today. He deserves no pity.

upsidedown@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 314d (8 replies)

Everyone deserves some pity. If you don't think so then you really aren't a good person either.

mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 314d

everyone deserves some pity at some point, yes

Peterson has used his up, and he no longer deserves any

village604@adultswim.fan · 10 pts · 314d (1 reply)

I think he should be treated the way he treated others. Seems fair to me.

F_State@midwest.social · 4 pts · 313d

This is why I was glad that Kirk was the victim of the political violence he championed rather than some innocent bystander.

HikingVet@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 314d (1 reply)

When has he ever shown a single bit of empathy or remorse?

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 314d

When it impacts him personally. Like every conservative.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 310d

Some people deserve nothing but justice. Also, pity is patronising. If that makes you think I'm not a good person, you can add your name to the long list of people who can bite my crank. Some people are incurable wrong 'uns. It's a shame the world is this way, but that's how it is.

I don't know much about Peterson's current state, so I won't say if he's one of the write-offs.

F_State@midwest.social · 1 pts · 313d

It's the exception that proves the rule so there are a couple people who should remain without pity but Peterson isn't the one in my book.

JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org · -6 pts · 314d

We can pity him and be glad he's dying at the same time. He will be burned away in Sheol, and if any good is left in him when the sin is cleansed, he may find his way to Heaven.

DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 26 pts · 314d

Nah, fuck that fash, he's welcome to follow his leader any time.

Deceptichum@quokk.au · 25 pts · 314d
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Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 19 pts · 314d (2 replies)

hes responsible for bringing men under gop/conservative influences, i saw an article on posted on reddit that he was paid handosomely by russia to spew his propaganda.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 310d (1 reply)

Propagandists are among the worst of the worst.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 309d

her daughter dating andrew tate says alot of her and him too.

Jhex@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 314d (6 replies)

I don't like the man, he seriously sucks, but he needs an official wellness check

An American style wellness check

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 314d (5 replies)

By a SWAT team?

mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 314d (4 replies)

too disciplined, lower the training

harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 314d

Pretty much any police or corrections officer from Florida.

village604@adultswim.fan · 3 pts · 314d (1 reply)

By a platoon of mall security we gave assault rifles to?

F_State@midwest.social · 1 pts · 313d

Man, they're totally ready for Dawn of the Dead

Tinidril@midwest.social · 1 pts · 313d

ICE

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 314d

Im not concerned for him and I hope he fucks off and dies. The world would be better without him

Rothe@piefed.social · 9 pts · 314d (2 replies)

I think it is quite entertaining. The part I get no joy from is how his fascist followers still clings to every word he says despite himn being clearly completely unhinged.

Hopefully this kills him. The world will be a better place for it.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 314d

Listening to entirely deranged people is normal for them.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 2 pts · 314d

The part I get no joy from is how his fascist followers still clings to every word he says despite himn being clearly completely unhinged.

Sounds familiar...

volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 314d (8 replies)

Damn the replies to your comment are wild.

I agree with everything you say. I hate this man but I am not as petty as to think this is funny or that he should die.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 314d (1 reply)

Don’t fall for the paradox of intolerance. This guy regularly calls for the torture and killing of innocent people.

volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 313d

Not wishing him dead isn't the same as tolerating him and his beliefs

Tinidril@midwest.social · 1 pts · 313d

I've become exactly that petty. There's too much unpunished grift in this world.

JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org · -6 pts · 314d (4 replies)

This is the will of Elohim. Peterson is a wicked man, and he's being punished for his sins. He's violated the first commandment far more often than most people. He does it for every meal.

frostysauce@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 313d (3 replies)

OK, first off so what the fuck is Elohim? Also, what exactly is the first amendment of the Canadian constitution? The thing that he's violating so often?

chillhelm@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 313d (1 reply)

Elohim is one if the possible interpretations of the Hebrew name of God (or maybe it was one of the words Orthodox Jewish people use to invoke God without saying their name).

Presumably the person you are replying to is referring to the American constitution (yay American defaultism). But that one can literally only be violated by the government which afaik is not Jordan Peterson.

Diagnosis: The person you are replying to is either /s-ing hard or as loopy as a crochet convention.

frostysauce@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 313d

Oh, I just noticed their username. Uninspired joke account.

JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org · 1 pts · 313d

I'm sorry, neighbour, autocorrect has caused me to mislead you. I meant to say the first commandment; thou shall not commit murder.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 313d

That’s not a spiritual attack, it’s mold induced pneumonia in a man with brain damage. He could easily be less capable of resisting the mold. Why the fuck was a man with brain damage trying to clean a moldy room without assistance‽

The number of old white men with brain infections influencing government is too damn high.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 314d (1 reply)

Wasn't he constantly barred out on benzos a decade ago?

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 309d

Yeah then he went to Russia to be put in a coma to get clean. He went to Russia because Canadian and American physicians refused. Since he woke up he's developed a reputation for crying in a lot of his public appearances including in situations where most people would be embarrassed to get that worked up. Like I think literary analysis is cool too and I can get emotional about it, but as a 30 year old woman I absolutely would not publish a take of a video in which I'm crying about the loyalty of the lancer to the hero and how it can serve to remind us of the value of friendship. Like the fact that that keeps happening to him indicates that he has a level of impairment to his emotional regulation.

And I'll admit he was always an emotional guy. And it's great that he was so willing to be vulnerable (though I suspect he'd be very unhappy with that description of himself), it's just that while "boys don't cry" is toxic masculinity, "there's a time and a place for crying" is a cultural expectation.

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 313d (2 replies)

It's genuinely possibly an experiment or poisoning by Russia. He was in Russia for a month or so in a coma to get off benzos. It could also be his sunstance use flaring up. I do not really believe the mold story from the daughter (who is very creepy).

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 313d (1 reply)

Hanlon's razor here: he went looking for any doctors who would do the procedure he wanted and couldn't get it in north America or any of Europe west of Russia. That indicates that it's stupidly dangerous without any foul play

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 313d

Do you really believe that? That he couldn't find ANY doctors to do it except Russia? Or is that just a convenient excuse to go to Russia?

Further, medical malpractice IS foul play.

phoenixz@lemmy.ca · -3 pts · 314d (1 reply)

I remember hearing of him about a decade ago and the few times I heard him he was coherent and made some reasonable arguments

Since over 5 years ago he went off a cliff

pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 314d

Those weren't reasonable arguments, he's a con man. He mixes in truth with the cons.

BroBot9000@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 314d (8 replies)

First Charlie Kirk and now potentially Jordan Peterson. What is this Xmas? šŸ˜‚

Pistcow@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 314d (6 replies)

Who?

BroBot9000@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 314d (4 replies)

Was a Nazi spokesperson and gun advocate that got shot.

Pistcow@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 314d (2 replies)

Doesn't ring a bell? I guess I'll keep on living.

gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 314d (1 reply)

You may know him as Carotid Artery Charlie?

buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 314d

Doesn't really sound like anybody worth remembering.

F_State@midwest.social · 1 pts · 313d

I doubt he really cared about guns, he was an edgelord provocateur.

But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 314d

Little face blood fountain

deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 313d

So insane to cheer on the death of people whom you disagree with.

Chozo@fedia.io · 61 pts · 314d (8 replies)

Yeah, I don't think it's mold. Or demons. Dude's 120% back on the benzos.

ryannathans@aussie.zone · 43 pts · 314d (5 replies)

Benzos are super potent mast cell inhibitors, coming off that insane benzo addiction has probably highly sensitised his mast cells which signal for the immune system. Exposure to mold is a common trigger for those with mast cell related disease. As are many foods which he has eliminated

Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 314d

TIL.

This is fascinating, every once in a while you come across these comments that are truly edifying.

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 313d (3 replies)

Sure but when a mast cell degranulates, it releases histamine, prostaglandins, and other stuff. He isn't in the hospital for continuous anaphylaxis or pain/inflammation from like PGE2, he is there for a "mold infection." It seems more likely that his mast cells perhaps died off rather than sensitized due to lack of use / chronic suppression and now he has almost like self induced AIDs/weakened immune system. And probably some vitamin deficiencies exacerbating everything.

Looking through the literature, chronic benzo use is indeed associated with weakened immune systems AND paradoxically heightened immune responses, probably due to genetic and environmental variability in response to taking those.

I still think he did some weird ass treatment with his coma in Russia though that he isn't telling anyone about.

p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 313d

I still think he did some weird ass treatment with his coma in Russia though that he isn’t telling anyone about.

I prefer Flesh Simulator's three-step plan.

ryannathans@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 313d (1 reply)

I find it remarkable he hasn't had a mast cell count, or at least mentioned as much when talking about his health

He seems to have chronic inflammation problems, and when I had mast cell activation problems I never had anaphylaxis. Would be interesting to know what is going on

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 313d

I had mast cell issues that resulted in me getting anaphylaxis to seemingly nothing several times, so everyone is different ofc.

I don't know if we will ever know the truth. They never performed a forensic autopsy for Charlie Kirk as far as I'm aware. Protocol isn't protocol anymore

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 313d (1 reply)

I still think Russian poisoning or experimentation is a possiblility. He is a Russian mouthpiece who went to Russia for a medically induced coma supposedly, he got extremely sick and has been struggling since then. Who's to say what even happened there

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 310d

And now, with RFKJ, we can get Russian-level quackery here in the US too! Too bad we can't also get real science-based medical treatment.

inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 314d (2 replies)

as well as a spate of neurological issues that have apparently left him unable to regulate his emotions.

How can they even tell? He is just like that.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 314d (1 reply)

He wasn't like that before the coma that he went to Russia to get induced to get off benzos. A decade ago he was just an old man who cried "authoritarianism" every time he was told he couldn't do something.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 314d

looks like the coma/benzos withdrawal is still having its effects on him.

Jhex@lemmy.world · 51 pts · 314d (4 replies)

Isn't it amazing this asshole got rich by spewing BS focused on "alpha males" and a full on "macho" attitude, yet they avoid any personal responsibility like it's acid.

It isn't the many drugs this guys has taken all his life.... nooooooo... it's a spiritual attack from someone else

P1k1e@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 314d (2 replies)

I think it's more amazing that anyone could take "alpha male" advice from a guy who's this much of a wimp

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 313d (1 reply)

putin funds him so, he is important to bring in more men into fold of manosphere/conservatism, by saying his pseudointellectual psychobabble.

P1k1e@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 313d

Yes but the shocking part is that it works

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 313d

it seems he never fully recovered from his benzo addiction, plus he had a coma that had complications too.

bradv@lemmy.ca · 48 pts · 314d (2 replies)

Regardless of whether it’s the mold, the diet, a spiritual crisis, or good old-fashioned demonic assault, we can only hope Peterson recovers. Sure, I don’t agree with him about anything, but this weepy, deranged, overemotional basketcase does more to discredit conservative thinking than an army of well-meaning social justice warriors, so I can only wish him a long life.

Draces@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 314d (1 reply)

Dude is responsible for indoctrinating so many desperate kids that just needed any kind of direction. He is not discrediting conservative thinking. Is this author living under a rock?

ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 22 pts · 314d

I really do think there’s a very definite before and after. At one point, he seemed to figure out exactly the cadence and wording that young men especially wanted out of a wisdom-dispensing fatherly figure. He got a lot of mileage out of whining about that one Canadian law proposal, at a time when transgendery things were (for better or for worse) less understood by most people. So even if you were sympathetic to them, there was a chance that what he was describing would raise your eyebrow. In my case I didn’t think I had anything against them, but he painted this picture of a law that could be easily abused, even if it was ostensibly in good faith. And he was careful not to comment on whether or not he thought it was one. Didn’t matter that the narrative he was peddling was pretty much fiction in the first place.

And then COVID broke his brain, and he very suddenly became terrible at hiding his power level. Part of his audience just knew him as that guy who wrote that book, but after selling increasingly political books titled ā€œAll you need to do to live (part 4, last one)ā€ and ā€œAll you need to do to live (part 5, okay no this is the last one I promise.final)ā€ that illusion also fell apart.

Right now most of the people who looked up to him at the time, even those who both still are (and even those who acknowledge) that they are right wing, think he’s lost the plot.

It’s not a great reassurance that those who let go of him may still have probably been swayed net-rightward by his stuff. But his spiral and widespread perception as a laughing stock, and as a clear example of lack of moral integrity on the right, is also a major piece of what he represents now. His red crying mug in his messy room has become a meme with a life of own. This is what he really is: a pompous, pontificating, fragile prick who can’t even use the good parts of his advice for his own sake. Even if it’s as simple as touching grass and cleaning up your shit.

::: spoiler I guess I’m technically an ex-follower of his.

At one point in my life, during his rise, I had a vaguely positive view of him, after he was presented as a guest on what was definitely not a conservative podcast (great moves Ethan, proud of you!). I even bought his book. I viewed myself squarely as an open minded liberal person, and saw him as just a moderate. Coming from a socially conservative part of the world, no alarm bells rang for me. But after continued learning, and meeting new people, I was able to rebuild a much more robust and morally sound view of the world and how it works. I recognized how caustic a lot of my beliefs, many that he confirmed/reinforced, actually are.

One of the few things I miss from the old site is /r/ExLobster, it was so enlightening to see how many others went through the same process I did with this guy. It also took the edge off the embarrassment I felt about falling into his world in the first place. I was just vulnerable to his shit at that point in my life, it was literally designed for people in my situation, and there’s no shame in picking yourself up and moving forward. And then COVID happened, in parallel with a multidimensional meltdown in my country, and while he put himself in a coma and cooked his brain, I was out there, supporting the medical system, doing charitable work and then mutual aid work, and I came out the other side with a radically new and solid foundation for my beliefs. A model of how society should run that ran counter to a lot of what he preached as common sense.

But you know what was the tipping point for me? It’s a very silly little thing I saw, and I don’t recall particularly when. Probably while I was still a bit in it. I always used to intentionally avoid his subreddit because I thought I was an enlightened centrist (finding the good in his work but not uncritically engaging with it) who was above those weird right wingers who dominated that community. But I opened it on a whim once. And someone was asking about ā€œJordan-Peterson ideology compatible Animeā€. Not sure what the exact words were. But there you go. Sometimes you need to see a word salad like that to see how ridiculous the company you’re keeping actually is.

:::

I think he’s a fascinating case study of the grift economy. I genuinely think that if he was truly the conservalib old-soul psychology professor with an interest in the way Christian theology and vague folktale cosmology influence modern worldviews and narratives, he would definitely be someone I’d pay attention to. At least for his areas of expertise. I still yearn for someone like that to exist. Shitheads should not monopolize any topic.

But we know now that he was always mad as a hatter, that he was trying to get famous a decade before he actually did, and that his actual beliefs don’t deserve an iota of public recognition. That the ways he couched them are the sum total of what he was bringing to the table.

The mythological Jordan Peterson isn’t necessarily a bad guy, the original character, as played in like 2016. The actual one is a pathetic, and now failed cult of personality grifter, an enabler of great evil.

I hope he feels a fraction of the pain he has caused before he kicks it.

Edit: changed some things to be less winding.

garbagebagel@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 314d (2 replies)

Dear mold, please do JK Rowling next. Thank you šŸ™šŸ½

OrganicMustard@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 314d

She has already a moldy house. Maybe moldy lungs too.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 314d

That’s already, like, a whole thing! :)

Jaysyn@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 314d (5 replies)

Oh good, the spells are working. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 37 pts · 314d (4 replies)

Etsy Witches are on a roll lately

FlyingCircus@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 314d (3 replies)

The last No Kings protest in my town literally had a coven of witches standing in front of the courthouse casting hexes on Donald Trump. It was pretty legit.

Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org · 7 pts · 314d (2 replies)

I'd love an anime style edit of new age witches spiritually fighting MAGA evangelists over Trump's soul

titanicx@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 314d

His what?

argarath@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 314d

He has one? That's news to me!

pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip · 36 pts · 314d

So much for ā€œclean up your roomā€.

Cruxifux@feddit.nl · 31 pts · 314d (13 replies)

THE WITCHES STRIKE AGAIN

seriously contemporary media is just as stupid as it was in early puritan colonialism. Why.

Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 314d (12 replies)

One part of it is simply profit. Everything is about attention these days and whatever gets attention is being amplified. The other part is deliberate, though. All major media are run by the oligarchy and their main mission is to preserve the status quo. Constant distraction is one of their weapons.

Cruxifux@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 314d (11 replies)

I don’t even think they want to preserve the status quo. They want to move back to serfdom.

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 313d (10 replies)

They call it technofeudalism or corporate monarchy and yeah that's what they want

Cruxifux@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 312d (9 replies)

I cannot for the life of me understand why you’re getting downvotess.

hatorade@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 311d (4 replies)

She is actively stalking and harassing a user and making shit up about him. That's why. That's not her username, it became that when she was banned for lying and trolling.

Cruxifux@feddit.nl · 3 pts · 311d (3 replies)

Damn y’all having vendetta wars on fucking Lemmy is wild as fuck.

hatorade@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 311d

Right? She was told to stop and took that as rape threat. Fucking bizarre.

She even went back to my account to spam a long diatribe, and then got banned by another mod team.

She's not acting in good faith.

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 311d (3 replies)

Because I'm actively being brigaded and harassed by misogynists.

Unrelated Image for fun, Blessed Are the Meek

Cruxifux@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 311d (2 replies)

lol actually? To what end are they doing this on Lemmy like the downvotes literally mean nothing here. Just pure stupidity.

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 311d

Because I embarrassed them in front of others and their egos can't take the shame. I had a list of some of the threads of obscene misogynistic behavior I've seen on Lemmy and it included mods.

Unrelated Image for fun, Blessed Are the Meek

Juice@midwest.social · 31 pts · 314d

I love how much his grifter daughter is trying to kill him. Dragon of chaos goes hard

Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 314d (1 reply)

Maybe he should clean up his room.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 314d

and stop petting that moldy cat.

merdaverse@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 313d (5 replies)

Ok, which one of you jokers paid the Kirk witches to hex this guy?

Fedizen@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 313d (1 reply)

It was the Antifa Spiritual Warfare division.

drolex@sopuli.xyz · 7 pts · 313d

Field Marshall Soros was very pleased with the success of the operation led by Colonel Greta

DarkSurferZA@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 313d (1 reply)

Listen man, if this was a thing, I have a list...

Fedizen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 313d

You should get that list hexed

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 313d

JP has been under the influence of benzos hexes for a quite a while.

crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 20 pts · 314d (1 reply)

First JKR, now JBP. I'm starting to see a pattern with these career pseudointellectual transphobes and black mold.

Sludgehammer@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 314d

*Looks around my rotten rental* Oh shit... am I a transphobe?

melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 314d (1 reply)

I never wanted him to get sick. I just wanted him to stop forcing his opinions on the public. Can't he just holler at the TV like most older folks?

elbucho@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 314d

Given that this guy wrote about a dream he had wherein his grandmother grabbed a fistful of her pubes and stroked his face with them while asking him to comment on how soft they were, I think we can rule out demonic attack. They may be the minions of Satan, but even demons would be like "bro, what the fuck?!?"

_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus · 15 pts · 314d (2 replies)
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Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 314d

i suspect he might OD on benzos.

jaemo@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 314d

Sorry, who?

I checked, but the only memorable Kirk I can dredge up from my memory (which is where I store facts about people worth remembering) is that of James Tiberius Kirk, captain of the USS Enterprise.

beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 314d

Man I hate crackheads, so it's OK to do drugs as long as you're "in". OK.

normalexit@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 314d (1 reply)

They should probably get him out of the hospital and bring him to a priest /s

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 313d

the benzo demons are quite strong. he sold his soul so he can be host a demon.

PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 314d (8 replies)

I guarantee his daughter is poisoning him so she can take his place and make even more grifting money

Fedizen@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 313d (4 replies)

Legitimately. After seeing the vultures trying to put on Charlie Kirk's skinsuit it seems like the way to rise up in the grifting ranks is to kill the current grifter and take their place.

Edit: I don't think people state enough that charlie kirk had hundreds of millions of dollars at age 31. He was well on his way to retiring as a billionaire. The guy was literally a sellout and now there's at least a dozen grifters lining up to get at the billionaire money-faucets he had.

PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 313d

The dude never worked a real job since he was 18. He just did his schtick till he died.

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 313d (2 replies)

Charlie got that money from Russia via crypto transfers

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 313d (1 reply)

JP apparently is also funded by putin too, as are the other grifters.

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 313d

Yes, elsewhere itt I have speculated that JP illness could be from something the Russians did when he was there for his coma.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/58088#effects

Something like this, polonium poisoning that affected maybe 700 other people before they realized what it was.

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 313d (2 replies)

It's probably Russia if anyone is poisoning him

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 313d (1 reply)

he did go there to get a dangerous coma, that caused brain damage.

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 313d

Yeah, but idk that I take the whole coma story at face value. I agree that is what is being said though.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 314d

Up yours woke moralists!

aturtlesdream@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 314d

He always seems to look like he is about to drop dead. At least his outside matches his rotten insides

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 10 pts · 314d

It couldn't be all those weird diets and the self-medicating (and self-analyzing ig). No. Must be the house demons.

Not the first time he's seriously ill btw and if you haven't heard of his beef/bourbon diet yet, now's the time.

SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 314d (1 reply)

Poor opioid addled grifter

LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 313d

It was benzos I thought -Klonopin/clonazepam

hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 313d (1 reply)

This dude is like the faux intellectual conservaties Joe Rogan, I'm genuinely sure he has a mental conditon as well, so I try not to shit on him too much.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 313d

hes called a pseudointellectual, his psychobabble in his earlier years seem like its a good idea, but if you dissect it, its meaningless gibberish meant to give mostly Men false hope. someone like kirk is anti-intellectual and pseudointellectual.

Chessmasterrex@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 314d (1 reply)

Crackpot being a crackpot.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 313d

benzo-pot.

NeilBru@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 314d (1 reply)
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 4 pts · 314d

You know Jordanspeak!

Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 314d

It isn't often that people get what they deserve.

LuigiMaoFrance@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 313d

rip bozo

GaryGhost@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 314d

It's just natural selection. bad faith Darwinism

Plurrbear@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 313d

ā€œYou can't escape destiny! She comes for us all, that relentless bitchā€!!!! Hahaha! And still the most valid quote from ā€œNew Girlā€ ever! šŸ–•šŸ¼

And as Charlie’s Kirk, your homie would say… ā€œhe would rather prefer sympathyā€. 🤣 WE HAVE NONE! šŸ–•šŸ¼

Karma comes for us all, in any life, and guess what… it’s coming for this douche and SORRY NOT SORRY. LETS GO!

See you and hear you, NEVER AGAIN!

I hope you come back as a dung beetle or suffer in hell forever! (Whatever you believer) lol!!!

I am so usually such a great person but America is making me so different! I have lost my faith hence why I say… fuck em!

IndridCold@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 313d

I'm sending him spiritual attacks in the form of thoughts and prayers karma comes for him.

phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 312d

My favorite spritual attack is to think of people like Peterson and try to visualize justice being done.

Believe me, if spiritual attacks worked, they'd be scraping him off the walls with a trowel right now.

JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org · -5 pts · 314d (1 reply)

Jordan Peterson lives a life of sin, and Elohim is punishing him for his wickedness.

synae@lemmy.sdf.org · 2 pts · 313d

Is this a bit?

1984@lemmy.today · -10 pts · 314d (10 replies)

Can I ask why everyone dislikes him without getting downvoted to the bottom of loch ness?

I listened to a few videos, and what he says seems to make sense. Are there videos where he completely says fucked up things?

Deceptichum@quokk.au · 16 pts · 314d (4 replies)
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1984@lemmy.today · -6 pts · 314d (3 replies)

Can you link a video where he says those things? Its about men and women then?

I asked chat gpt and I understand now. Its a movement that opposes feminism. Im not American and I dont follow politics so maybe everyone knows this but I just havent come across it myself.

  1. ā€œAlt-right.ā€ Short for alternative right. It began around 2010 as a loose coalition rejecting mainstream conservatism in the United States. Early figures used the term to distance themselves from traditional Republican politics while promoting ideas around ethnic nationalism, ā€œWestern civilization,ā€ and opposition to feminism and immigration. The ideology draws from far-right, white-identitarian, and sometimes explicitly racist or antisemitic thought. Its online presence flourished through imageboards (4chan, 8chan), blogs, and later social media.

  2. ā€œManosphere.ā€ An online network of forums, YouTube channels, and influencers focused on men’s issues, often framed in opposition to feminism. Inside it are sub-groups: – Men’s Rights Activists (MRAs) who claim legal or social bias against men. – Pickup Artists (PUAs) teaching manipulative dating tactics. – Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) rejecting relationships with women entirely. – Incel communities blaming women for sexual frustration.

While some participants discuss legitimate gender issues, the discourse commonly devolves into resentment toward women and social hierarchies based on dominance.

  1. Where they overlap. The alt-right manosphere is the intersection—when gender resentment fuses with ethnonationalist or authoritarian politics. These spaces frame feminism and multiculturalism as forces destroying ā€œtraditionalā€ male and Western dominance. Influencers often use pseudoscientific evolutionary rhetoric, meme culture, and irony to normalize reactionary ideas.
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 10 pts · 314d (2 replies)
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1984@lemmy.today · -5 pts · 314d (1 reply)

Yeah I can find it. I checked his channel and I actually ended up watching a video about aliens since it was just more interesting.

Im really not very interested in anything where people are fighting eachother online. Life is short and I dont plan to spend it fighting people.

Deceptichum@quokk.au · 9 pts · 314d
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Infrapink@thebrainbin.org · 8 pts · 314d (1 reply)

Some More News did an exhaustive deep dive into him

If you don't have three free hours to watch it, yes he says fucked up things in other videos. He's also smart enough to say the bullshit in a way that sounds reasonable to people who don't know any better.

sik0fewl@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 314d

It's only a brief look.

Don't look at the timestamp!

lefaucet@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 314d

In short he doesn't know what he's talking about, confidently spreads lies and misinformation, insists that trans folks are destroying the world, buries good faith debate in bullshit semantic circles, and cries like a baby when anyone calls him out on his bullshit.

This video lays it out nicely:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sLaBA1H2B3Y

fossilesque@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 314d
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Almacca@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 314d

It's the 'seems to' that's catching you out.