Enabling root has always required a device wipe. It's unfortunate if you want to do it well after receiving your device and using it for months with the stock software.
Not in my experience, but again that was quite some time ago - I think it was Android 6 the last time I did it.
ETA: although now that I think about it, it was technically done in an "unsafe" manner by exploiting vulnerabilities. For the more safety-concerned, maybe a wipe was preferred.
Typically unlocking the bootloader requires a full wipe. It's a security method intended to keep an attacker from compromising your OS to access your data if the phone is stolen.
I've never rooted a phone without requiring a wipe, but I've owned mostly Samsung
Even old Samsung phones would let you root and flash custom roms without wiping, the bootloader was open from the factory and you could just override your recovery and system partition with Odin. That's how I did it with my Galaxy Gio during the Android 2.2 days
It definitely didn't always require a wipe - I think it might be storage encryption by default that was introduced, that made it a requirement, where modifying/replacing system/bootloader components means it can't decrypt the data anymore.
It's so that someone else can't unlock your bootloader and install malware. Like if you're entering a country and they say "please unlock your phone" and they take it, they could unlock and replace the bootloader without you being able to tell.
Ah, right. Why let you use the tech that’s already built-in and designed for just that, when they can call it something else and charge you more for it?
IIRC, it was announced at some point that US cell towers were compromised for several years (Salt Typhoon?) and it can't be confirmed that state actors don't still functionally own the infrastructure. This matters because the US for some fucking reason won't let SMS die.
The dawn of the 4G will forever be remembered as the time our civilization forgot how to make phones that can make phone calls. I feel embarrassed every time I randomly think about VoLTE.
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e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de · 64 pts · 327d
If anyone cares, GrapheneOS lets you override carrier settings for VoLTE. No workarounds needed.
socialsecurity@piefed.social · 8 pts · 327d
What's the benefit of volte?
Esp forcing it?
Blaster_M@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 327d
VoLTE technically works over any internet connection. VoLTE is VoIP
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 327d
How does it differ from wifi calling?
IllNess@infosec.pub · 15 pts · 327d
WiFi calling and VoLTE are both VoIP. The only difference is the network protocol.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 317d
Ones not IP?
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 325d
No, that's why there is also VoWiFi. It is VoIP but not over ANY internet connection, only LTE.
elmicha@feddit.org · 1 pts · 326d
Technically it is Voice over LTE, so it cannot be used over any internet connection (e.g. over LAN, WIFI or GRPS).
socialsecurity@piefed.social · 0 pts · 327d
So encrypted?
Object@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 326d
In some countries you need it to make a phone call.
FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 327d
The article implies simply rooting will do - something I haven't done in quite a while, but last I knew didn't involve wiping your existing setup.
kenopsik@piefed.social · 5 pts · 327d
Enabling root has always required a device wipe. It's unfortunate if you want to do it well after receiving your device and using it for months with the stock software.
FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 327d
Not in my experience, but again that was quite some time ago - I think it was Android 6 the last time I did it.
ETA: although now that I think about it, it was technically done in an "unsafe" manner by exploiting vulnerabilities. For the more safety-concerned, maybe a wipe was preferred.
Shadow@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 327d
Typically unlocking the bootloader requires a full wipe. It's a security method intended to keep an attacker from compromising your OS to access your data if the phone is stolen.
I've never rooted a phone without requiring a wipe, but I've owned mostly Samsung
Auli@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 327d
I've owned pixels and Nexus and you could unlock without wipe. Locking required a wipe. Now both do not sure when it changed though.
Anivia@feddit.org · 2 pts · 326d
Even old Samsung phones would let you root and flash custom roms without wiping, the bootloader was open from the factory and you could just override your recovery and system partition with Odin. That's how I did it with my Galaxy Gio during the Android 2.2 days
kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 326d
It definitely didn't always require a wipe - I think it might be storage encryption by default that was introduced, that made it a requirement, where modifying/replacing system/bootloader components means it can't decrypt the data anymore.
Auli@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 327d
No now it does. Before you could unlock your bootloader and not wipe. Locking it has always required a wipe. Now both do for some reason.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 325d
It's so that someone else can't unlock your bootloader and install malware. Like if you're entering a country and they say "please unlock your phone" and they take it, they could unlock and replace the bootloader without you being able to tell.
Toes@ani.social · 35 pts · 327d
actively making their product worse. awesome
ByteMe@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 327d
They’ve been doing it for quite a while
AndrewZabar@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 327d
And what is the problem with VoLTE anywhere? Just curious.
higgsboson@piefed.social · 9 pts · 326d
The carriers probably paywall it.
AndrewZabar@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 326d
Ah, right. Why let you use the tech that’s already built-in and designed for just that, when they can call it something else and charge you more for it?
Fucking savages.
owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 327d
I see Google is amply funding their fun-ruiner division.
dan1101@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 327d
They only made one small update to their "Don't be evil" motto.
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 326d
They haven't had that motto in quite some time now.
eskimofry@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 326d
thats the update the parent comment was referring
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 326d
A single comma changes it all
FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 327d
That's how the big bucks are made.
artyom@piefed.social · 13 pts · 327d
Next they're going to disable support for VPNs other than their own.
Toasted_Breakfast@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 327d
Can someone explain it to me the privacy hobbyist? Why is this a concern? What exactly am I missing out on?
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 327d
IIRC, it was announced at some point that US cell towers were compromised for several years (Salt Typhoon?) and it can't be confirmed that state actors don't still functionally own the infrastructure. This matters because the US for some fucking reason won't let SMS die.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 326d
NSA compromised them all decades ago
Part of Salt Typhoon was abusing that access
GaryGhost@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 325d
We always rely on old technology. The us won't invest money into anything until they have to. This goes for our government and the private sector
deafboy@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 326d
The dawn of the 4G will forever be remembered as the time our civilization forgot how to make phones that can make phone calls. I feel embarrassed every time I randomly think about VoLTE.