Katie Miller made a veiled threat to deport a political commentator during a heated debate about New York mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani on Thursday.
The wife of White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller appeared on a panel of commentators on “Piers Morgan Uncensored.” While arguing with The Young Turks co-creator Cenk Uygur, the debate quickly turned ugly. The shouting match devolved into Miller questioning the validity of Uygur’s U.S. citizenship application.
Miller accused Uygur of “racist, bigoted rhetoric” around Israel and Uygur countered that Miller was a habitual liar. When Cenk floated the idea that Israel got a “pass” on committing genocide against Palestinians, Miller wondered if the Trump administration might need to take a closer look at his recently granted citizenship.
Miller cut in. “You better check your citizenship application and make sure everything is correct,” she said. “Because you’ll be just like Ilhan Omar.”
102 Comments
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 219 pts · 305d
I guess this is the kind of person you have to be to want to marry Stephen Miller.
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social · 81 pts · 305d
Idk why, but for some reason until this moment I just assumed Stephen Miller was single, because of, you know, literally everything about him
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 25 pts · 305d
he was a psychopath/sociapath since age of 17, apparently katie is equally deranged.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 300d
Well, hopefully they make each other miserable.
RagingRobot@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 305d
Looking at that lady she kind suits him though. Their faces are kind of similar. Maybe that's just because they are both mean and angry lol
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 304d
Wouldn't be surprised if they're half siblings or something.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 304d
"what are you doing, step-nazi?" keeps going through my head thanks.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 305d
That spray on hair is a legit chick magnet.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d
what if i don't want to look like a flocked christmas tree?
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 303d
Wear a Bolex watch and drive a GMW.
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 305d
Didn't she also run off with Elon Musk?
Once again, shitbirds of a feather...
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 22 pts · 305d
i think it was scott bessent's wife. scott allegedly punch musk, and musk was claiming his SONs did it.
Zron@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 305d
Is that his male children or one of their names?
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 305d
I assumed it was a robot of some kind that he'd let grok program since grok is the only kid he loves.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 304d
wait til he finds out his robowaifu says that to any old schmuck who'll fork over $9.95
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d
Shield Or Nearby $target. It's a backronym.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 304d
one of his sons, whom he is absent.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 305d
Musk’s “assistant.”
sepi@piefed.social · 4 pts · 304d
Elon wasn't disgusting enough for her. He came close, though, but his cruel ideas are not original.
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 305d
Ugh, hadn't thought of it that way, but yeah.
Fitting that such a cunt would marry an absolute prick.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 305d
she just as crazy as he is, with all the sociapathic tendancies.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 304d
arranged marriages are also still a thing in certain crowds.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 162 pts · 305d
"My arguments are shit, so I'll just have to resort to violence. Except I'm too chicken-shit for that too, so I'll see if I can't get someone else to hurt you on my behalf."
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 65 pts · 305d
I thought this had some real "my dad can beat up YOUR dad!" energy.
KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 305d
more like "My dad works at Mojang and he'll ban you"
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 304d
Oh wow, I read this and really did LOL. Thank you. 🤣
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 117 pts · 305d
Elected to Congress?
I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 305d
“Have a racist lady with more publicity than sense screech at you about deportation.”
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 90 pts · 305d
Why do people keep giving her air time?
Shouldn't you be busy stealing free housing from our troops?
Or fucking Elon Musk while the mayonnaise matador sobs and watches from the foot of the bed?
tal@lemmy.today · 27 pts · 305d
Young Turks does progressive political advocacy. If she's going to do probably-politically-counterproductive stuff like this on air, I suppose I'd probably give her time too.
I think a better question is why Stephen Miller has his wife off doing interviews like this.
EDIT: Man, professionally, she's even done high-level communications, too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Miller
Maybe I'd blame Stephen less and her more.
whoisearth@lemmy.ca · 35 pts · 305d
LOL
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 305d
Can't wait for that page to say "cause of death: firing squad" once people get hungry enough
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 305d
"shot in the back by ICE"
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
i would prefer "shot by catapult" in nearly all cases when i read about shooting. it's like not having your parachute open when skydiving. it's rather enjoyable before you realize the chute doesn't work, and your last moments can be doing something fun as hell. i mean, that's if you're at peace with yourself and the world. i imagine it being quite terrifying otherwise but hey, you reap what you sow (oh deer gods you reap what you sow)
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 300d
Launched by trebuchet into a huge tank of pig shit would be fair.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 305d
Based.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 300d
That picture makes her look less like she's just been hit in the face with a shovel.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 305d
Feel free to blame her more but don't blame him less.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 305d
This was on Piers Morgan, not TYT.
athairmor@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 305d
The qualifications for that under Trump seem to be competence in hair spray and make-up. So, it’s not like you should expect much from her.
Chozo@fedia.io · 84 pts · 305d
Eva Braun 2.0 over here really ought to consider following her predecessor's footsteps.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d
one thing hitler had (and miller don't) is charisma. i really don't know enough about ww2/nazi leadership, but the googles say Alfred Rosenberg was the least charismatic and on that quality alone i'd note the equivalency.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 304d
Or Himler as he wasn't liked by anyone but came up with all the plans.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
That is a better analogue.
Shirasho@lemmings.world · 78 pts · 305d
You have immediately lost the debate when you attack a person instead of their argument.
AlphaOmega@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 305d
Ad hominem.
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 305d
Too many people online love to use "ad hominem" as a defense when someone uses language like: "you're stupid and here is why..."
Not saying that's what's done here. It's not. I just feel like the only time I see people use "logical fallacies" like this is incorrectly.
Ad hominem is NOT when someone insults someone they are arguing with. It's when they use the insult or personal attack as a REASON for why something is wrong.
The extreme example being: "Hitler says being a vegetarian is good. But Hitler was a fucking Nazi."
It's implying the character flaws of the individual are associated with the subject of debate. It's often used in tandem with the Strawman Fallacy to both create doubt in the character of your opponent as well as mischaracterize what your opponent is arguing so it is easily defeated.
She constantly strawmans here by invoking any criticism towards Israel as being instead on "Jews". Which, maybe worked two years ago. But Zionist are sniffing their own farts at this point. The only people that believe that anymore are other Zionist.
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d
You are fighting the good fight.
AlphaOmega@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 304d
Definition is: (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
I am not an English professor.
The argument was: "When Cenk floated the idea that Israel got a “pass” on committing genocide against Palestinians, Miller wondered if the Trump administration might need to take a closer look at his recently granted citizenship."
The argument being that the administration was turning a blind eye or even complicit in the genocide. The response was a threat but also a personal attack as in their opinion or argument was invalid because of their ethnicity, citizenship, etc. To me, that is a reaction that was directed against the person instead of the position they were maintaining.
"Ad hominem is NOT when someone insults someone they are arguing with. It’s when they use the insult or personal attack as a REASON for why something is wrong."
I still think the reaction of threatening someone based on ethnicity/citizenship was their REASON why this person's argument is invalid. But I am assuming that is what they were implying with the threat.
I assume that the threat of deportation was the answer to the argument, as it implies that argument is invalid due to the actual person presenting the argument and not an actual answer or debate. But I do see how it's more a subtle interpretation. They don't actually say it, they just imply that the argument is wrong based on a personal attack.
I think what you're saying is it should have been more like Miller responded with a direct personal attack as the reason for why the argument was wrong. But for me it seems like that was implied as the reason.
Maybe it's a stretch ¯_(ツ)_/¯
grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one · 13 pts · 305d
ad nauseum
TheBat@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 304d
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
It was not an ad hominem it was a threat (i really wish i was comfortable calling strangers shit for brains, because this would be the place to do it)
ameancow@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 304d
snooggums@piefed.world · 12 pts · 304d
Racists tend to see an attack on their racist arguments as an attack on themselves since their racism is intertwined with their identity.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 305d
I worry that's not true for these people. #winning
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 60 pts · 305d
Uh...wut? Anyone have some context for this bit of crazy?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 305d
Oh shes a progressive Muslim in congress, the right has claimed she's an illegal immigrant for years
lobut@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 304d
Just like Obama's birth certificate. People love pretending they're not racist when they're obviously racist.
threshold_dweller@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 304d
Many of those same people will admit to it when they think it's a safe audience.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 303d
I’ve been mistaken for “safe” plenty of times. They still don’t self-identify as racist.
They’ll say things like “the blacks are just genetically more violent, and we need to protect ourselves by keeping them out of our town”, but that’s not “racist” because they’re “just telling the facts” that the libs try to force society to ignore.
They think it’s equivalent to saying women tend to have less facial hair, which isn’t sexist, and we’re insisting that it is because we’re “woke” and living in denial because of that ideology.
When they do admit to being racist, its tongue in cheek to make fun of their accusers, like if I were to call myself a “communist socialist liberal extremist”.
God it feels icky steelmanning them, but it’s important to understand your enemy.
frunch@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 304d
Something that's easily proven, too. Why haven't they done so? 🤔
ubergeek@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 304d
Because it's far too easy to point out that Melania lied on her citizenship application, and she would be deported under that idea, too.
Not that Trump would mind. It would enable him to start fucking his daughter, or Laura Loomer.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 304d
Marriage has never stopped him before. I wouldn't expect it would now.
Frostbeard@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 304d
I suspect Melania actively encourages it tbh. Whatever keeps him away from her.
tal@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 304d
I don't think that Melania's presence stateside has anything to do with the legality of Trump having sex with his daughter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_incest_in_the_United_States
So, that'd work in Rhode Island or New Jersey, as long as they don't marry, but I don't think that the public in either of those two states is too keen on Trump.
EDIT: For context, note that I'm assuming that ubergeek is referencing this:
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d
alexa what state is atlantic city in
ubergeek@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 304d
I dont think Trump is overly concerned about legality, but his latest prenuptial agreement, that was amended his last term.
Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 305d
Leak comment about Miller's next victim?
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca · 54 pts · 304d
Why is Stephen Miller's wife given air time? Who the fuck cares what she thinks?
If a News agency can't get ahold of a scientist for an interview are they going to talk to the scientist's spouse? "The head of the fire department is busy with the wildfires so we asked their date from last week about the plan moving forward..."
Plurrbear@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 304d
Giving her air time is just another distraction from the Epstein Files and the fact that Project 25 is still going on… remember when Drumpf said he didn’t even know Miller?!?!
SANE, critical thinking Americans remember! The administration is nothing but blatant liars full of distractions, and protecting each other while being pedofiles stealing money from tax payers!
I legit am a server and made over $2200 this paycheck but only took home a little over $1600… wtf!
IF THE GOVT IS SHUTDOWN WHY THE FUCK AM I PAYING TAXES AND HOW THE FUCK YOU GONNA TAKE THAT MUCH FROM ME?!?! (Let alone that much in taxes, thought cash tips weren’t taxed… FUCKING LIES).
FUCK AMERICA! SHOW US THE EPSTEIN FILES!!! Ps FUCK ICE!
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 304d
That's about how much I'd expect to have deducted here in the UK, maybe we'd pay a bit less. Of course, we have the NHS.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 304d
thats why they use rfk jrs delusions from time to time to distract as well, see how quickly he backs down.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 303d
People should be asking her why her husband associates with known pedophiles and if she feels comfortable with their children around these followers of moloch?
WhatThaFudge@lemmy.world · 40 pts · 305d
The crazy starts around 8 min
klemptor@startrek.website · 22 pts · 305d
What a fucking Karen.
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 304d
Crazy, entitled Karen. Fuck her and her pathological victimhood.
Oh and fuck israel too.
hotdogcharmer@lemmy.zip · 32 pts · 305d
Wow, she looks like a bruiser. It's funny cos he looks like a weasely little bastard. Just two absolutely fucking hideous slabs of meat, made uglier by their permanently sneering expressions and made impossible to stand by their eternally cruel actions.
May the happy couple get what they deserve 🤞
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 24 pts · 304d
Her husband PeeWee Himmler is so repellant that the when MAGA entered the White House in 2020, the word was that he was a virgin who had never been on a date.
She apparently comes from a wealthy family, who reportedly uses the n-word at the dinner table routinely. She was a White House staffer when they met, and bonded over their love of Zyklon B.
She will definitely order her husband Wormtongue to investigate Cenk.
ikidd@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 304d
I'm so stealing this.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 304d
Public Domain, have at it.
Also PeeWee Mengele. Guess who that is?
PeeWee Himmler also resembles PeeWee Wormtongue, whispering poison into his King's ear, making him lean into his worst, most evil instincts.
scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org · 31 pts · 304d
She still fucking Elon?
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 304d
Vance is now fucking Kirk’s “widow”.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 304d
He's just helping her convert to Christianity!
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 304d
Catholicism to be precise
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 300d
Oh, so he's breaking in her lesser ring, a traditional method of contraception in many Catholic countries before they secularized.
I wonder if she has to dress like a sofa and let him spray her with Scotchgard before he can get started.
Plurrbear@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 304d
Edit: ALWAYS been fucking her!
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 28 pts · 305d
"Ilsa, She-Wolf of the U.S."
tal@lemmy.today · 26 pts · 305d
Context, for those not familiar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilsa%2C_She_Wolf_of_the_SS
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 304d
thankfully none of these women look sexually voracious in the slightest so i don't have to have that image in my head
anarchy79@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 304d
Bravo.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 304d
Copy of Frau Goebbels proving she is a fuck nut.
bluesocks@lemmings.world · 17 pts · 304d
"How dare you make me look stupid for supporting a corrupt regime!?"
I swear, the guillotines can't come fast enough for these fuckers.
butwhyishischinabook@piefed.social · 16 pts · 304d
One might argue that the way her and her fuckwad husband wield their power is treasonous, with all the attendant consequences.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 305d
Slappable face.
J92@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 305d
She has the same look on her face as him. They're either related or there's like a carbon monoxide leak at their house.
pulsewidth@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 305d
Their primary fuel is anger. That's how they get that permanent sneer.
J92@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 305d
Roald Dahl had a point about that in The Twits. That people that thinks wicked thoughts eventually start to show the effects of holding that in your head. But then, he just didn't like people with beards, amongst others.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 305d
Those aren't mutually exclusive
J92@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 305d
Ooooh youre not wrong!
Urgh!
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 305d
Thems nastys
keyzerSuze@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 304d
How to say I am loosing the debate
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 303d
they oughta tighten that up
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 303d
I think you said it well already, minus the extra "o."
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 305d
So totally normal.
oh_@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 305d