If you're making a roll from scratch, it's simply faster, easier, and more practical to fry the entire thing before cutting it. But yes, if you wanted to do this with individual pieces, I'm sure that would probably work.
Honestly, I've seen that more often in higher end sushi (i.e. sit-down restaurant) than in the cheap kind (i.e. grocery store takeout). Or perhaps it's a bell curve, where the center consists of "this is expensive enough already, let's not waste food by throwing parts of it away".
I think ultimately, it really comes down to presentation. Cutting the roll after frying it exposes the center, which makes it look colorful and appetizing. If you battered and fried the pieces individually, they'd simply be brown on all sides and look like oversized pickle chips. It basically makes every piece into a (double) end piece.
When I first started cooking I used to burn the rice all the time and I had to throw it all away. Then one day I had dinner at a Persian restaurant and they brought me some of the charred rice (called "tahdig") as a special treat. It was a real eye-opener (tongue-opener?) because that shit is incredibly delicious. They regretted serving it to me because I started begging for it every time I went, which is apparently a rather rude thing to do.
Korean dol sat bibim bap is similar. It's a dish served in a massively hot stone bowl with the rice on the bottom, and the longer you let it sit there before mixing everything together, the more the rice chars and the better it tastes. It's almost crazy how much charred rice is not a thing in world cuisines when it's actually incredibly delicious.
I did this once. I didn't realize it was sushi though.
I was outnof town, training for work. My meals were paid. I decided "That tuna is $20, but I am not paying it so why not.
It was raw.
So I cooked it in the hotel room.
EDIT: Another fun food mishap from that trip, I ordered some expensive pasta from a place I had not been to evet, same logic, "Its $25 but ita not my money.". This was back in 2010 BTW.
I went and picked it up to take back to the hotel. Its a Family Style restaraunt. It was $25 pasta because its meant for like, 4-5 people.
Something I consider rather agitating is the concept of food elitism. " No you can't put ketchup on that you uncultured fuck!" But like it's my food piss off mate...
There are 3 colors on the avocado parts, a deeper green, a lighter yellowish green, and a light brownish part, which is consistent with avocado cuts and oxidization.
Lol, when I first heard of Sushi, I was a kid and I joked that Japan needed to conserve fuel because they spent all of their fuel invading my homeland and now doesn't have any to cook their food.
(I was a kid at the time, so I made dumb jokes pls don't get offended lol)
That particular Teflon cooking pan... I hit mixed feelings on it. I'm using it with wooden utensils only because I didn't want to eat Teflon anymore but I did want the non stick.
Anyway, that finish seems to protect the Teflon, but its like a file or sandpaper for any utensil. So I'm slowly eating my wooden spoon.
Newer versions of that pan use ceramics, not Teflon
It seems to be slightly less non stick, and more sensitive to quick temperature changes over time (hurts adhesion of the ceramics), but otherwise it's pretty solid and very safe
This is what im vaguely aware of: There have been several lawsuits against ceramic non-stick pan brands, most notably a recent $2.5 million class action settlement with
HexClad, which faced claims of false advertising about the presence of toxic chemicals like PFAS and PFOA. Additionally, a class action lawsuit against Blue Diamond, filed in 2020, alleged the pans were not as non-stick as advertised. A similar suit against GreenPan was filed in 2019 but was ultimately dismissed.
Why not just use something else like carbon steel or cast iron. They are both cheap and easy enough to maintain. My carbon steel frying pan is just as non-stick as Teflon, and actually gets better the more I use it.
Not like it's good to eat it or anything, but just to help with the worries, teflon is absolutely safe to ingest, it's a very stable molecule that don't interact with absolutely anything, it goes in and out basically intact. Of course it doesn't mean you can EAT it, but ocasional accidental ingestion due "scraping the bottom" are pretty safe.
When people say it's Toxic, they knowing or unknowingly are talking about the chemicals used to make it, mostly PFOA — perfluorooctanoic acid. These are nasty, and are present GLOBALLY, like everywhere, from the sea to the middle of deserts and even on the poles, that also includes our blood.
Totally, it's safe if you take care of the pan; however, if you ever get it above a certain temperature the coating will break down and that's when there's risk. Also as you said, how much forever chemicals are released into the environment during it's production, and might I also add that those bits that go in and out are also in the environment forever.
I suspect no one wants to hear about cast iron pans anymore lol.
PTFE is considered a PFOAs molecule by ROHS3 and you can't use it in new design. I know this because I design stuff that occasionally may need high temperature plastics or other solids. The stuff is inert but its not good for you as the other commenter mentioned. Once heated to 500F or 260C, it may release toxic fumes that can cause flu-like symptoms, liver damage, cancer and disruption in development of kids.
Strictly speaking of the chemical side of things, teflon at it's normal temperature, is very inert and won't interact with anything inside your body, that's doesn't mean you can eat 1 kilogram of it and be fine.
The point was, if you accidentally scrap the bottom of a pan and ingest a tiny bit of the coating with the food, that won't make any big harm as most alarmists suggest.
I still wouldn't eat teflon and have slowly changed to mostly stainless steel, which is superior in cooking if you know how to use it. Gonna get myself some cast iron as well but I'd like a larger kitchen to properly start kitting out. What I want in the end is silver cookware.
The point is, your "facts" are probably more correct than science in the 50's, but the fact is those "facts" are still essentially company propaganda to make people not panic over having eaten off of neurotoxins for 50 years.
Or like, are you so naive you don't understand companies like DuPont lying through their teeth?
My dude, I'm just saying something based on my biochemistry degree, as I stated it's harmless if you INGEST A TINY AMMOUNT ON ACCIDENT, you obviously shouldn't eat it as part of your diet, and if possible use a cast iron or stainless steel pan, even though is harder to clean.
I'm not talking about politics our corporations, or as you label it my "facts", I'm talking about science and chemistry.
OG Sushi isn’t very popular in my country so Sushi restaurants offer it fried like this. I tried it a couple of times and it tasted great. Too bad it’s prohibitively expensive so I can’t do it on the regular.
Can’t say a thing about your poor arteries if you get hooked though.
105 Comments
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 120 pts · 293d
Batter those bites, then fry them. Tempura Sushi
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today · 37 pts · 293d
Usually that’s done by battering and frying the entire roll before cutting it.
Doing it with individual pieces is possible, of course, but it massively increases the chance of overcooking the center, which usually is not desired.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 293d
Freeze, batter, then fry?
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 293d
Sure, but that still adds unnecessary prep time.
If you're making a roll from scratch, it's simply faster, easier, and more practical to fry the entire thing before cutting it. But yes, if you wanted to do this with individual pieces, I'm sure that would probably work.
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 293d
I feel like frying the entire roll leads to more uneven cooking. Overcooked ends, undercooked middle
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 293d
You can cut off the ends, and the middle SHOULD be undercooked (raw, in fact), that's kinda the whole point of sushi.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 293d
Also, serving the ends is kinda not-done in high class sushi.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 293d
Honestly, I've seen that more often in higher end sushi (i.e. sit-down restaurant) than in the cheap kind (i.e. grocery store takeout). Or perhaps it's a bell curve, where the center consists of "this is expensive enough already, let's not waste food by throwing parts of it away".
I think ultimately, it really comes down to presentation. Cutting the roll after frying it exposes the center, which makes it look colorful and appetizing. If you battered and fried the pieces individually, they'd simply be brown on all sides and look like oversized pickle chips. It basically makes every piece into a (double) end piece.
turdcollector69@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 293d
Idk I wouldn't consider par-frying and freezing french fries a waste of time.
Michelin quality sushi nuggets take time.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 5 pts · 293d
That's dragon eye rolls, if you want to order some. They're goood.
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one · 98 pts · 293d
This is actually quite tasty
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 293d
besmtt@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 293d
How would you find a place that does this?
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 293d
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 293d
When I first started cooking I used to burn the rice all the time and I had to throw it all away. Then one day I had dinner at a Persian restaurant and they brought me some of the charred rice (called "tahdig") as a special treat. It was a real eye-opener (tongue-opener?) because that shit is incredibly delicious. They regretted serving it to me because I started begging for it every time I went, which is apparently a rather rude thing to do.
Korean dol sat bibim bap is similar. It's a dish served in a massively hot stone bowl with the rice on the bottom, and the longer you let it sit there before mixing everything together, the more the rice chars and the better it tastes. It's almost crazy how much charred rice is not a thing in world cuisines when it's actually incredibly delicious.
BanMe@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 293d
Had a persian friend who would make tahdig all during Covid and I definitely ate more than I needed to.
And we have places here that serve fried sushi rolls, they are good, but no fried stuff after 40.
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 292d
I think there are often fried sushi rolls on the menu of most places. It's the only way I can convince certain family members to go.
grindemup@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 293d
In Panama, that crispy rice is called concolon :)
RamenJunkie@midwest.social · 9 pts · 293d
I did this once. I didn't realize it was sushi though.
I was outnof town, training for work. My meals were paid. I decided "That tuna is $20, but I am not paying it so why not.
It was raw.
So I cooked it in the hotel room.
EDIT: Another fun food mishap from that trip, I ordered some expensive pasta from a place I had not been to evet, same logic, "Its $25 but ita not my money.". This was back in 2010 BTW.
I went and picked it up to take back to the hotel. Its a Family Style restaraunt. It was $25 pasta because its meant for like, 4-5 people.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 293d
I ordered steak tartare. It was ok, but tasted so much better after 5 mins on my friends hotrock.
Aeri@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 288d
Something I consider rather agitating is the concept of food elitism. " No you can't put ketchup on that you uncultured fuck!" But like it's my food piss off mate...
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one · 1 pts · 288d
I agree 90% of the time. My exception to this is if you're putting hunts ketchup on anything. Using hunts is, actually, a crime against humanity.
AngryishHumanoid@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 293d
Look, I love sushi... but I also love cooked fish so I can't deny I've wondered what this would taste like.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 293d
It's those crispy edges. They're doing something. I'd try one.
False@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 293d
Tbh doesn't look awful
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one · 10 pts · 293d
It's pretty good, goes well if you do a proper layer of egg and maybe a little carbohydrate coat.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 293d
Tuna is ruined once cooked imo
aesthelete@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 293d
Nah rare seered tuna is awesome
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 293d
Funny I was thinking that of salmon
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 293d
All fish is ruined when cooked
wieson@feddit.org · 0 pts · 293d
Hard agree
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 43 pts · 293d
Gotta be American, there's enough oil on the pan to drive you from New York to San Francisco
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 293d
Don't look at us for that much oil, that's some sino-scottish culinary styling
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 8 pts · 293d
Fr. This isn't even enough oil to completely submerge all the food in.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 293d
Yeah in America we pan fry with a bit much oil or we deep fry
hakunawazo@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 293d
But is it enough to invade your pan?
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 293d
They call it gas though.
Vitaly_Chernobyl@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 293d
I'm an American and I am triggered by the insane amount of oil being used.
jellyfishhunter@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 293d
These rolls don't look like they contain fish. Looks more like avocado or cucumber.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today · 23 pts · 293d
Well, if you’re already going to waste pack of sushi for the purpose of making a shitpost, might as well use the cheapest one you can find
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 293d
Definitely avocado; cucumber doesn't have that color gradient but avocados do.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 293d
I'm not sure where you are pulling those pixels out of because I cant device her anything but maybe green
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 293d
There are 3 colors on the avocado parts, a deeper green, a lighter yellowish green, and a light brownish part, which is consistent with avocado cuts and oxidization.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 293d
You're supposed to boil it.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 293d
until uniformly gray
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 293d
Mmm. Finally some proper fucking sushi!
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 293d
recently ate myself stupid on amazing sushi in Seattle. but yeah if we're gonna 'cook' it ruin it completely lol
Matombo@feddit.org · 28 pts · 293d
that has to be flamebait
n0respect@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 293d
Their name is Ben Dover
tetris11@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 293d
I just don't understand why people can't read. No damn respect
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 293d
I went to school with a Ben Dover. last I heard dude killed his parents and od'd on meth.
wander1236@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 293d
I don't really see a problem here
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 293d
I'm sure seared tuna rolls would be delicious, this is just that with extra steps.
fne8w2ah@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 293d
ngl that looks delicious.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 293d
You have invented rice dumplings.
blave@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 293d
SirSamuel@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 293d
So a chicken pot pie is actually a calzone
An an apple pie is actually a dessert bread bowl 🤔
TheRagingGeek@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 293d
Unfortunately the graph misses one food type, what is a cobbler?
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 293d
Upside down toast, obviously
FauxLiving@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 293d
Consider, a spherical cow
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one · 5 pts · 293d
Pizza is toast? Seems like something MAGA would say
Dragonstaff@leminal.space · 4 pts · 293d
Pizza is A toast. Like avocado toast.
It's bread, toasted with sauce, various meats, cheeses, and vegetables. This seems pretty unassailable.
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one · 2 pts · 293d
pulls off dragonstaff's mask
Why, it was just old Mr. Miller the whole time. He was just pretending to be a demon for internet points.
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 293d
Pizza dough cooks with its toppings. Toast it bread that it cooked a second time.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 293d
Sir, a pizza is round.
ptolemai@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 293d
Looks like theyre good at it. Even frying with chopsticks. Soft in the middle, crispy at the ends.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 293d
Lol, when I first heard of Sushi, I was a kid and I joked that Japan needed to conserve fuel because they spent all of their fuel invading my homeland and now doesn't have any to cook their food.
(I was a kid at the time, so I made dumb jokes pls don't get offended lol)
I like Sushi btw 😋
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 292d
If Japan is going to catch strays, invading people is a pretty good reason.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 292d
Too bad they didn't have Anime before, if they did, they could've won peacefully.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 293d
That particular Teflon cooking pan... I hit mixed feelings on it. I'm using it with wooden utensils only because I didn't want to eat Teflon anymore but I did want the non stick.
Anyway, that finish seems to protect the Teflon, but its like a file or sandpaper for any utensil. So I'm slowly eating my wooden spoon.
Natanael@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 293d
Newer versions of that pan use ceramics, not Teflon
It seems to be slightly less non stick, and more sensitive to quick temperature changes over time (hurts adhesion of the ceramics), but otherwise it's pretty solid and very safe
altphoto@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 293d
I thought there was a class action lawsuit against the company for faking "ceramic" coating while still using PTFE.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 4 pts · 293d
Oh nice!
Micro-Class-Action-Lawsuit payout for all of the micro-plastics in my body.
As if the payouts aren't already a joke.
Natanael@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 292d
No, they called it a non-stick non-toxic coating, they didn't originally claim ceramic.
They claim the new surface is ceramic (and it looks plausible from seeing how damaged pans look in photos)
altphoto@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 292d
This is what im vaguely aware of: There have been several lawsuits against ceramic non-stick pan brands, most notably a recent $2.5 million class action settlement with HexClad, which faced claims of false advertising about the presence of toxic chemicals like PFAS and PFOA. Additionally, a class action lawsuit against Blue Diamond, filed in 2020, alleged the pans were not as non-stick as advertised. A similar suit against GreenPan was filed in 2019 but was ultimately dismissed.
nickiam2@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 292d
Why not just use something else like carbon steel or cast iron. They are both cheap and easy enough to maintain. My carbon steel frying pan is just as non-stick as Teflon, and actually gets better the more I use it.
Natanael@infosec.pub · 1 pts · 292d
I have cast iron pans too. When you have family members who'll make them rust it's easier to just not 🤷
If pure ceramic had a strong enough surface I'd prefer that, or stainless steel if it could maintain the same degree of non-stick.
Cabbage_Pout61@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 293d
Not like it's good to eat it or anything, but just to help with the worries, teflon is absolutely safe to ingest, it's a very stable molecule that don't interact with absolutely anything, it goes in and out basically intact. Of course it doesn't mean you can EAT it, but ocasional accidental ingestion due "scraping the bottom" are pretty safe.
When people say it's Toxic, they knowing or unknowingly are talking about the chemicals used to make it, mostly PFOA — perfluorooctanoic acid. These are nasty, and are present GLOBALLY, like everywhere, from the sea to the middle of deserts and even on the poles, that also includes our blood.
snoons@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 293d
Totally, it's safe if you take care of the pan; however, if you ever get it above a certain temperature the coating will break down and that's when there's risk. Also as you said, how much forever chemicals are released into the environment during it's production, and might I also add that those bits that go in and out are also in the environment forever.
I suspect no one wants to hear about cast iron pans anymore lol.
pyre@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 293d
what do you mean by that last point?
Amir@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 293d
He probably likes cast iron pans
altphoto@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 293d
Yes, I saw him at the iron castration anonymous meeting! He liked it!
altphoto@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 293d
PTFE is considered a PFOAs molecule by ROHS3 and you can't use it in new design. I know this because I design stuff that occasionally may need high temperature plastics or other solids. The stuff is inert but its not good for you as the other commenter mentioned. Once heated to 500F or 260C, it may release toxic fumes that can cause flu-like symptoms, liver damage, cancer and disruption in development of kids.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 3 pts · 293d
It's a good thing I'm poor. My oven doesn't go above 450F.
Cabbage_Pout61@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 293d
Yeah I forgot to mention the heating bit, don't let it get too hot folks!
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 293d
Cooking with Teflon pans has loads of evidence of killing pet birds nearby though so I'm not too sure it's as 100% safe as you say it is.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 293d
Birds are not real. The internet is never wrong.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 293d
Have there been any independent long term studies done on Teflon inside human bodies?
Dasus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 292d
Every time someone's foaming at the mouth at how safe it is to eat Teflon, I can't help but to be reminder of the confidence of 1950's ad executives:
Cabbage_Pout61@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 292d
There's a nice video about it from Veritasium.
Strictly speaking of the chemical side of things, teflon at it's normal temperature, is very inert and won't interact with anything inside your body, that's doesn't mean you can eat 1 kilogram of it and be fine.
The point was, if you accidentally scrap the bottom of a pan and ingest a tiny bit of the coating with the food, that won't make any big harm as most alarmists suggest.
Dasus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 292d
I've heard the argument several times, yeah.
I still wouldn't eat teflon and have slowly changed to mostly stainless steel, which is superior in cooking if you know how to use it. Gonna get myself some cast iron as well but I'd like a larger kitchen to properly start kitting out. What I want in the end is silver cookware.
The point is, your "facts" are probably more correct than science in the 50's, but the fact is those "facts" are still essentially company propaganda to make people not panic over having eaten off of neurotoxins for 50 years.
Or like, are you so naive you don't understand companies like DuPont lying through their teeth?
https://pure.eur.nl/en/publications/historical-pfas-pollution-as-a-state-facilitated-corporate-crime-/
Cabbage_Pout61@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 286d
My dude, I'm just saying something based on my biochemistry degree, as I stated it's harmless if you INGEST A TINY AMMOUNT ON ACCIDENT, you obviously shouldn't eat it as part of your diet, and if possible use a cast iron or stainless steel pan, even though is harder to clean.
I'm not talking about politics our corporations, or as you label it my "facts", I'm talking about science and chemistry.
HerrBeter@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 293d
There are ceramics too
altphoto@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 293d
Yeah, ceramics is the way to go. But they have to be Pb free.
Draegur@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 293d
I want to slap this person in the mouth.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 293d
with sashimi, in the economy?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 293d
Fuck I guess I'm eating sushi for lunch today...
ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 293d
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 293d
Seriously gonna try this the next time I pick up some sushi.
voodooattack@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 293d
OG Sushi isn’t very popular in my country so Sushi restaurants offer it fried like this. I tried it a couple of times and it tasted great. Too bad it’s prohibitively expensive so I can’t do it on the regular.
Can’t say a thing about your poor arteries if you get hooked though.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 293d
Tried this, it's still bland fish.
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 293d
Referring to fried sushi as bland fish is fucking wild
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 293d
Because you only get the preserved kind in a landlocked country. Every sushi you get here tastes bland.
melonhusk@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 293d
medium rare, i hope? wouldn't want it overcooked.
zarathustra0@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 293d
That does look quite tasty tbh.
Dasus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 292d
1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 293d
Wait I thought it was a pre assembled meal and you cook it?