Well yeah if you can have it write a script to do the same thing over and over again, that's more efficient and reliable than asking AI to process similar data multiple times.
if they're talking about what i think they are, it isn't the (very good) point you've made about scripting viability, but instead a kind of recursive bluster, exactly like whats shown in the OP pic.
an example would be you ask it to write a script to automate something, and it suggests asking an LLM to do it, instead of just fucking doing it like it used to for the same basic type of prompt, hence why it looks like enshitifcation rather than progress.
purely my opinion here, but i suspect it's got nothing to do with model fidelity or the state of the art and everything to do with some bs profit-seeking human intervention or masking some other bs business decision.
Windows 13 is going to have first completely uncooperative AI. You ask him to open system setting and it says "the fuck's good for me, eh?". You tell him to download Winamp and it tells you "what the fuck is that shit? it does even collect your data! fuck you, i'm not dowloading that, the gall!" or you tell him to turn itself off and it tells you "nah, i'm good" or if you ask to switch to manual it tells you "get fucked, you ain't getting that".
This is why it's absolutely ridiculous that Google automatically has AI answer search queries. One time I searched the serial number of a washing machine and the AI came back and said something along the lines of, this looks like a serial number for some sort of product. Yeah thanks for that.
I don't necessarily have a problem with AI although I think it's going to kill the economy, my biggest issue is AI being stuffed into everything in situations where it doesn't make sense.
Thanks for sharing. I use a metasearch engine so I don't have to see it. Unfortunately that doesn't make a big difference in the broader picture. For most users this is the default experience. Slop at the top, then advertisements and only then what a search engine is supposed to return. And those burnt CPU cycles will be forced upon them. And I guess that's pretty much normalized by now. Probably also the reason why Google does it in the first place.
Uh sorry, I don't have a good recommendation. I myself use a self-hosted instance of SearXNG but that's a bit much for the non-tech people and it doesn't work that well due to all the rate-limiting of Google etc so it'll intermittently stop working and I just can't recommend it. I know lots of people use Duckduckgo, Startpage or Ecosia. But I'm not an expert on them, if they provide privacy or whether they care for the environment or do green washing. So I'm afraid I can't make a good statement here.
Sundar is a true believer. He talks to his ai on the way home in his car, he has it summarize podcasts and books for him, he just thinks we haven't prompted it right yet.
Add a custom default search engine on your browser of choice with the url https://www.google.com/search?q=PLACEHOLDER&udm=14, replacing PLACEHOLDER with whatever your browser needs it to be. Subject to stop working whenever google chooses, so keep that in mind.
Yes, in your google account settings, though yea you need a google account. I'd tell you but I have no idea how to turn it back ON. I think to turn it off I clicked the 3 dots next to the AI overview.
It's definitely tied to your google account tho because it does appear for me in incognito.
I checked if I turned it off with an extension and no I didn't. I turned all my extensions off.
OR, USE STARTPAGE and stop complaining.
Google shoves things down your throat, and you happily swallow, but then you complain online without even looking up "turn off google AI overview" or something.
The people that hurt me are the ones that spend hours of their life complaining on the internet but don't spend 5 minutes trying to find an answer or stand up for themselves
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MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca · 149 pts · 290d
AI is just quiet quitting now?
Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 290d
If I was paid $500 billion by the US government I would not quiet quit but that's just me tbf.
brown567@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 290d
I could live comfortably on that much money for five million years
Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de · 10 pts · 290d
Probably more, you could easily live off thw dividends and keep investing.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 289d
They could have given every American a million dollars.
But the companies would have manufactured scarcity to jack up prices.
Our economic system makes no sense
brown567@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 289d
I guess an economic system can only make either dollars or sense XD
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 290d
That's just you. Melon Husk seems to quiet quit for a loooong time now and the dude being paid billions every year.
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 290d
I wouldn't quiet quit.
I'd no-call no-show quit.
Mac@mander.xyz · 4 pts · 290d
I wouldn't even quiet quit, I'd full quit.
$500b and I'd be done with traditional working.
Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 290d
AI wasn't paid $500 bn, it was paid for.
Now, I don't believe in the sentience of AI myself, but a more apt comparison would be you being bought from the same group of people
Quit much?
HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org · 11 pts · 290d
LOL the mechanical turks are burning out....
EldenLord@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 290d
In a way they are. To progress the LLMs, large amounts of current data is needed. Which now is poisoned with AI slop. The Slop is eating it‘s own shit
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 290d
Work to Rule
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 87 pts · 290d
Honestly I find AI is more and more getting like this
I’ve asked it to do repetitive tasks and it tells me I should auromate them.
No shit.
ganymede@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 290d
yeh and then you have to explicitly instruct it.
wonder if its some engagement hack bs to boost the number of interactions or something.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 290d
I think it’s just the training data of people not wanting to do highly annoying work.
llama@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 290d
Well yeah if you can have it write a script to do the same thing over and over again, that's more efficient and reliable than asking AI to process similar data multiple times.
ganymede@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 290d
if they're talking about what i think they are, it isn't the (very good) point you've made about scripting viability, but instead a kind of recursive bluster, exactly like whats shown in the OP pic.
an example would be you ask it to write a script to automate something, and it suggests asking an LLM to do it, instead of just fucking doing it like it used to for the same basic type of prompt, hence why it looks like enshitifcation rather than progress.
purely my opinion here, but i suspect it's got nothing to do with model fidelity or the state of the art and everything to do with some bs profit-seeking human intervention or masking some other bs business decision.
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 290d
This is it. It feels like they're all trying to make uses use less compute while they continue to crank at training destroying Yogi Bear's habitat.
Evotech@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 290d
Yeah like "you need to run this command"
Well duh, but you do it
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 83 pts · 290d
Hahahaha.
Just of PSA, duck duck go has a no ai url:
https://noai.duckduckgo.com/
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works · 11 pts · 290d
Bruh this might be one my new default search engine link
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 290d
It also has one without js and one for limited rendering like dillo and gemini clients.
llii@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 290d
Your links don't work to me. You need to include the protocol "https://" to your urls.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 290d
*sigh*
khannie@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 290d
Amazing. Thank you very much. Just added this as my default search engine in Firefox Focus.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 51 pts · 290d
mrmanager@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 290d
I will just use my user-first operating system called Linux.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 290d
2030, the year of Linux in the Desktop!
BilSabab@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 290d
Windows 13 is going to have first completely uncooperative AI. You ask him to open system setting and it says "the fuck's good for me, eh?". You tell him to download Winamp and it tells you "what the fuck is that shit? it does even collect your data! fuck you, i'm not dowloading that, the gall!" or you tell him to turn itself off and it tells you "nah, i'm good" or if you ask to switch to manual it tells you "get fucked, you ain't getting that".
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 45 pts · 290d
Easy solution: don't use google. I suggest to use one of those: DuckDuckGo, Ecosia or Searx.be.
DuckDuckgo also allow you to hide some AI images
87Six@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 290d
Startpage. Google indexing without sponsorships, ai or any of that shit
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it · 3 pts · 290d
I heard some bad things about startpage, for example they block VPNs and TOR
87Six@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 290d
Huh I'll look into that.
sauerkrautsaul@lemmus.org · 6 pts · 290d
yes, I use duckduckgo typically.
echodot@feddit.uk · 39 pts · 290d
This is why it's absolutely ridiculous that Google automatically has AI answer search queries. One time I searched the serial number of a washing machine and the AI came back and said something along the lines of, this looks like a serial number for some sort of product. Yeah thanks for that.
I don't necessarily have a problem with AI although I think it's going to kill the economy, my biggest issue is AI being stuffed into everything in situations where it doesn't make sense.
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world · 23 pts · 290d
"In the dictionary under 'redundant,' it says 'see redundant'" -Robin Williams
Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 290d
That's funny but it isn't redundant...
GianBarGian@feddit.it · 8 pts · 290d
Yeah it should be recursive, not redundant
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 290d
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 290d
Under Tautology it should say that the word Tautology carries the meaning of the word Tautology
Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 290d
That's better!
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 290d
File a complaint with the Department of Redundancy Department.
selokichtli@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 290d
That's funny. Period.
ook@discuss.tchncs.de · 20 pts · 290d
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de · 15 pts · 290d
Thanks for sharing. I use a metasearch engine so I don't have to see it. Unfortunately that doesn't make a big difference in the broader picture. For most users this is the default experience. Slop at the top, then advertisements and only then what a search engine is supposed to return. And those burnt CPU cycles will be forced upon them. And I guess that's pretty much normalized by now. Probably also the reason why Google does it in the first place.
atmorous@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 290d
Can you create a short guide that I can share with non-tech people for the metasearch engines you recommend?
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de · 7 pts · 290d
Uh sorry, I don't have a good recommendation. I myself use a self-hosted instance of SearXNG but that's a bit much for the non-tech people and it doesn't work that well due to all the rate-limiting of Google etc so it'll intermittently stop working and I just can't recommend it. I know lots of people use Duckduckgo, Startpage or Ecosia. But I'm not an expert on them, if they provide privacy or whether they care for the environment or do green washing. So I'm afraid I can't make a good statement here.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 12 pts · 290d
We need to bring yellow pages back.
PeacefulForest@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 290d
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 290d
Me, holding up this month's issue of The Onion: uhh, hello
Blaster_M@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 290d
You're going to have to pay more for your newspaper. That job's income makes minimum wage look like a CEO's salary.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 290d
how the fuck is a generally aware company as google that they are poisoning their own userbase against it?
I have yet to meet anyone that wants gemeni in their browser or os.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 289d
Sundar is a true believer. He talks to his ai on the way home in his car, he has it summarize podcasts and books for him, he just thinks we haven't prompted it right yet.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
we need a campaign for 'Google Classic' - no ai, roll back enshittification, bring back don't be evil....
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 289d
I'm just paying for search now. There are various places you can go, but 2012 Google is still available
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
...? I've heard of kagi...
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 289d
Yeah that's what I'm paying for.
khepri@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 290d
Click on the first search result: "Thanks for visiting our page, try our new AI chatbot to help you make the best restaurant choices!" 🤣
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 289d
This is dangerously close to: "here, let me google that for you." As if this brand of AI wasn't ouroboros-like enough.
Steve@startrek.website · 11 pts · 290d
Ingested too much stack overflow did we?
svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 290d
Can't wait until we burn an entire rainforest running a clanker that gets into a "let me google that for you" infinite loop.
nieceandtows@programming.dev · 9 pts · 290d
Should have also included an lmgtfy link of the query.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 290d
There's this userscript to fix that.
lectricleopard@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 290d
If had to answer all the questions, better believe I'd be phoning in a bunch of them now and then, lol.
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 290d
How do I Google? Nevermind, I will just Google it.
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 290d
We should go on websites they scrape data and put much much more replies like this one.
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 290d
Off topic but: Battery 11%... very anxiety-inducing
Huschke@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 290d
It's charging though.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 289d
Until google removes it inane ai shit, I'm not using it except under absolute necessity. Even then I cannot trust its results like I used to
cosmicpancake@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 290d
87Six@lemmy.zip · -2 pts · 290d
Why do you all still have that shit even turned on?
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 290d
It can be turned off?
ech@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 290d
Add a custom default search engine on your browser of choice with the url
https://www.google.com/search?q=PLACEHOLDER&udm=14, replacing PLACEHOLDER with whatever your browser needs it to be. Subject to stop working whenever google chooses, so keep that in mind.ook@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 290d
87Six@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 290d
Yes, in your google account settings, though yea you need a google account. I'd tell you but I have no idea how to turn it back ON. I think to turn it off I clicked the 3 dots next to the AI overview.
It's definitely tied to your google account tho because it does appear for me in incognito.
I checked if I turned it off with an extension and no I didn't. I turned all my extensions off.
OR, USE STARTPAGE and stop complaining.
Google shoves things down your throat, and you happily swallow, but then you complain online without even looking up "turn off google AI overview" or something.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 290d
Wow, dude, who hurt you?
Anyway thanks for the answer, i didn't find the option from a quick glance though so 🤷
87Six@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 290d
The people that hurt me are the ones that spend hours of their life complaining on the internet but don't spend 5 minutes trying to find an answer or stand up for themselves
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 290d
You sure complain a lot though.
87Six@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 290d
I also just found a firefox extension called "Hide Google ai overviews".
OR USE STARTPAGE.
leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 290d
Because it can't easily be turned off.
87Six@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 290d
If I did it, it's easy.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 290d
Attach
&udm=14to the URL.