There's also a statue of George Washington in England. Except the US shipped a bunch of dirt all the way across the Atlantic from Virginia so he would technically not be standing on British soil.
I guess it's because technically the US hasn't been at war since WW2, and so ships sunk since then were not considered enemy ships. Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Gulf, and Iraq were all technically not wars but just "special military operations" or whatever. Where do you think Putin gets most of his aspirations and ideas?
The last ship to sink an enemy vessel was the USS Simpson in the 1988 Iran-Iraq war, which retired in 2015. Every conflict after has not had any naval combat resulting in a loss of vessel.
Seeing her out of her slip is kind of weird. She was accompanied on either side by tug boats, like an elderly person escorted by nurses or family members fearful they may fall over.
Small correction:
The HMS Victory is the flagship of the First Sea Lord.
The current Royal Navy Fleet Flagship is the aircraft carrier HMS Prince of Wales.
The fleet flagship of the Royal Navy is currently HMS Prince of Wales.
The Royal Navy flagship is HMS Excellent (which is an island, not a ship).
Victory is the flagship of the First Sea Lord, and also has the largest crew of any vessel in the navy, as personnel are assigned to her on paper by default until transferred to an active unit.
When they took our wooden boat out of the water it turned out that she'd hogged by around 500mm. Which is quite a lot for a boat. In fairness, she was 150 years old by that point.
Now there's a vast system of hydraulic rams supporting her in the dry dock, to the point that they reckon she's better supported now than when she was afloat.
Holy shit George Washington would hate this policy. He was done being commander in chief! That's why he stepped down after 2 terms! I get it's symbolic, but his whole thing regarding the office was "don't deify me."
And then after he says that, he turns slightly and says, "not that there's anything bad or wrong about people who struggle with their speech. What I'm saying is, IF YOU HAD TROUBLE HEARING ME, YOU SHOULD'VE TOLD ME AS MUCH IN 1799!"
"...You named how many cities after me?!"
"...The Capital?!"
"...And also an entire state?!?"
"Nope, you know what, fine. I am a god. And I am vengeful."
Counterpoint. These are military titles and not presidential ones. When Washington left office he wanted his official formal title to return to General and not President. Meaning he would be more okay with this.
A man reads the news of this break on his shigawire paper. "Huh that sucks," he says, desensitized. "Still not the worst thing to happen this year" he muses to himself. He turns to get back into the food line, the zombie apocalypse on distant Terra already forgotten.
"Dearest Zombie Martha: Winter at Valley Forge is exceedingly desperate. The harsh wind whistles through the men's exposed rib cages, and our supply of brains is running low."
Well, that and any zombie who eats one of us will likely get taken down by a combination of measles, mumps, chicken pox, COVID, and high cholesterol as well.
this tradition stems for Washington holding a general rank in the British military before rebellion, and the US traditionally never having a rank higher than the one he held in the British military, so when we actually did need those ranks because practicality, they just bumped him up.
The wiki you link discusses 20 people of obviously mixed race, with half? of those likely parentages seeming coercive.
'Many many' sounds like dozens.
I guess you mean that the number is rapes likely far exceeds the number of people conceived from rapes? The wiki also mentions guests expecting sexual gratification from slaves, but not whether or not those expectations were met.
"Overseeing" any activity, kind of implies you're managing said activity, seeing it through to it's completion. Looking the other way would certainly be complicit, but it's not the same thing as commanding and ensuring those rapes happened.
Also, I set the bar intentionally low for zombie Washington. Child rape was the bar. There's no amount of revision of American history that has lowered Washington to Trump levels of evil yet. And I further wrote couldn't rape kids with the expectation that zombie dicks probably fall off.
So anyway, zombie Washington still gets my vote over Trump.
They actually ignore history and background behind the founding of their country and how it isn't so grandiose.
But, the propaganda is so ingrained, it's literally tied to their personalities.
And then they force it on every social platforms (because they own major platforms) and pretend their patriotism is different from the ones in North Korea and China.
::: spoiler Transcription
A Tweet by Sandy Petersen @#SandyofCthulhu
Whenever the US Army has created a new higher rank, George Washington is promoted to it, and if he isn't the first, his promotion is postdated so that he has seniority. So when we instigated the rank of 3 star officers in the Civil War for Grant & Farragut, and the rank of 4 star general in WW1 for Pershing, George got to be that rank too.
This means George Washington is always the highest ranked soldier, senior to every other officer. This means in the zombie apocalypse, he will be in charge.
[A photo of George Washington, edited so he has blood stains around the neck, a partly-healed wound on his forehead with the stains of blood dripping down from it, and unnatural eyes, so he appears as a zombie.]
:::
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djdarren@piefed.social · 108 pts · 262d
I would say that the US is a very weird place, but then I remembered that this
is the flagship of the
British NavyFirst British Sea Lord. She hasn't floated for literally 100 years.So mostly I guess it's just that militaries are weird.
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 82 pts · 262d
There's also a statue of George Washington in England. Except the US shipped a bunch of dirt all the way across the Atlantic from Virginia so he would technically not be standing on British soil.
Humans do weird shit just to make a statement.
affenlehrer@feddit.org · 29 pts · 262d
Dracula did the same when he moved to England
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 262d
But is Dracula twelve stories high and made of radiation?
Glytch@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 262d
Is George Washington!?😨
klugerama@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 262d
I heard that motherfucker had, like, 30 goddamn dicks
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 262d
He was a gundam.
TheDoozer@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 262d
I heard... that... motherfucker had, like... thirty goddamn dicks.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 16 pts · 262d
"What do we do with all this rubble and old dirt?"
"Ship it to the UK and call it patriotism"
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 261d
The state is entirely based on lies and delusions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 42 pts · 262d
The USS Constitution is still fully crewed, floats, and occasionally fires a few cannon shots.
Keeping history around isn't weird. Though I do think it should be contextualized.
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 262d
Her nearest competition was decommissioned in 2015.
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 7 pts · 262d
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 262d
You're telling me no ship in the current fleet besides that old ship has sunk an enemy vessel?
balsoft@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 262d
I guess it's because technically the US hasn't been at war since WW2, and so ships sunk since then were not considered enemy ships. Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Gulf, and Iraq were all technically not wars but just "special military operations" or whatever. Where do you think Putin gets most of his aspirations and ideas?
yeather@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 261d
The last ship to sink an enemy vessel was the USS Simpson in the 1988 Iran-Iraq war, which retired in 2015. Every conflict after has not had any naval combat resulting in a loss of vessel.
balsoft@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 261d
That's very surprising to me. Do they not count random pirate boats and so, or did they really sink no vessels at all since then?
prettybunnys@piefed.social · 2 pts · 261d
I think many of the actions have been against what are considered non-state actors. So I think it’s just what’s considered an “enemy vessel”
yeather@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 261d
They do not count anti-pirate operations, the US Navy has never counted anti-pirate operations.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 261d
What about all those Venezuelan ships?
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 261d
They focus mainly on murdering innocent civilians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion
HearTwoTalk@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 262d
Seeing her out of her slip is kind of weird. She was accompanied on either side by tug boats, like an elderly person escorted by nurses or family members fearful they may fall over.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 262d
US Navy sails the Constitution up to a Russian submarine.
Fires full broadside.
Refuses to elaborate.
Leaves.
prettybunnys@piefed.social · 1 pts · 261d
djdarren@piefed.social · 5 pts · 262d
Ah, I'm mostly joking. Victory is a really cool museum, almost as cool as the wreck of the Mary Rose that's displayed in a building next to her.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 262d
Militaries see a lot of value in convincing their members that they'll be remembered after dying.
sartalon@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 262d
Some good things have happened because people sacrificed themselves for the greater good.
Do I wish this wasn't necessary? Fucking of course.
But history doesn't repeat itself so much as humans just don't change.
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 262d
We're talking about the US here. It's mostly about the greed, slavery, oil or invading farmers.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 261d
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 261d
I'll assume that you're talking about Luigi Mangione (allegedly) and move on.
sartalon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 261d
I was thinking of some of the Revolutionary War soldiers, actually and the allies fighting Nazi Germany.
Not really sure where Luigi came from.
napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.org · 20 pts · 262d
Small correction: The HMS Victory is the flagship of the First Sea Lord. The current Royal Navy Fleet Flagship is the aircraft carrier HMS Prince of Wales.
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 262d
but what about ceremonial anime swords in the US military?
abbotsbury@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 262d
I'd like to know more
SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 259d
https://www.twz.com/25409/the-usaf-uses-huge-swords-fit-for-he-man-and-the-thundercats-to-honor-officers
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 262d
Me too
SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 259d
https://www.twz.com/25409/the-usaf-uses-huge-swords-fit-for-he-man-and-the-thundercats-to-honor-officers
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 261d
The state is an evil, goofy religion.
More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion
tetris11@feddit.uk · 10 pts · 262d
Is she not beautiful? Do her curves offend your insecure masculine sensibilities?
djdarren@piefed.social · 8 pts · 262d
She's too beautiful. So beautiful in fact, that I am now banned from Portsmouth Historic Dockyard.
tetris11@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 262d
For shame, for she has many suitors but not nearly enough who will polish her portholes
buffing_lecturer@leminal.space · 9 pts · 262d
I somehow never considered that there were literal flagships.
davidgro@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 262d
The USS Enterprise (pretty much any of them, including nonfiction) have been flagships.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 262d
The fleet flagship of the Royal Navy is currently HMS Prince of Wales.
The Royal Navy flagship is HMS Excellent (which is an island, not a ship).
Victory is the flagship of the First Sea Lord, and also has the largest crew of any vessel in the navy, as personnel are assigned to her on paper by default until transferred to an active unit.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 262d
Yeah that's weird. You gotta keep your wooden boats in the water like we do. Our navy owns a forest for repairing our stupid wooden ship
djdarren@piefed.social · 1 pts · 261d
When they took our wooden boat out of the water it turned out that she'd hogged by around 500mm. Which is quite a lot for a boat. In fairness, she was 150 years old by that point.
Now there's a vast system of hydraulic rams supporting her in the dry dock, to the point that they reckon she's better supported now than when she was afloat.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 261d
Every state is based on total bullshit. That's part of why the state is garbage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion
VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 53 pts · 262d
Holy shit George Washington would hate this policy. He was done being commander in chief! That's why he stepped down after 2 terms! I get it's symbolic, but his whole thing regarding the office was "don't deify me."
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 262d
Which would really explain why he might come back as a zombie. The rage just builds until he pops up out of his grave and shouts, "DID I STUTTER?"
AtariDump@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 262d
Suffa@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 262d
Bew Pest.
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 262d
And then after he says that, he turns slightly and says, "not that there's anything bad or wrong about people who struggle with their speech. What I'm saying is, IF YOU HAD TROUBLE HEARING ME, YOU SHOULD'VE TOLD ME AS MUCH IN 1799!"
"...You named how many cities after me?!"
"...The Capital?!"
"...And also an entire state?!?"
"Nope, you know what, fine. I am a god. And I am vengeful."
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 262d
Which makes The Apotheosis of Washington pretty ironic. Beautiful, though.
yeather@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 261d
Counterpoint. These are military titles and not presidential ones. When Washington left office he wanted his official formal title to return to General and not President. Meaning he would be more okay with this.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 261d
Phony AF. Dude lived as a god among the people he enslaved.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 262d
It’s the year 30,000. God-Emperor George Washington moans to life and leads Earth to war against the rest of the universe.
Exusia@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 262d
A man reads the news of this break on his shigawire paper. "Huh that sucks," he says, desensitized. "Still not the worst thing to happen this year" he muses to himself. He turns to get back into the food line, the zombie apocalypse on distant Terra already forgotten.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 261d
Washington wakes up... "My slaves... Where are my slaves?!?! I need to recapture them..." [Heads north]
ramble81@lemmy.zip · 33 pts · 262d
Calling it now, once Trump finds out this exists, he’ll do something to try and supersede that to put him at the top.
Maybe a 6 star general with the pips arranged like a Star of David.
dohpaz42@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 262d
US Presidents are literally thenCommander in Chief (the highest ranking military position).
The beautiful thing is: Washington was literally the 1st President, so nothing Trump does or says can change that.
Albeit, I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried. #gulfofmexico4everHK65@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 262d
Well, he does want to be first king
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 262d
That's how you invoke the ire of Zombie Elvis.
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 262d
if anything would bring the OG GW back, it would be that.
dohpaz42@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 262d
Monkey’s Paw: Granted. But the people will quickly rise up and overthrow him and subject him to the guillotine.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 261d
Just post-date his first presidency to be before Washington
sundray@lemmus.org · 24 pts · 262d
"Dearest Zombie Martha: Winter at Valley Forge is exceedingly desperate. The harsh wind whistles through the men's exposed rib cages, and our supply of brains is running low."
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 262d
That's probably America's greatest defence against zombies. Any outbreak will starve to death in short order.
sundray@lemmus.org · 2 pts · 262d
Well, that and any zombie who eats one of us will likely get taken down by a combination of measles, mumps, chicken pox, COVID, and high cholesterol as well.
Snowclone@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 262d
this tradition stems for Washington holding a general rank in the British military before rebellion, and the US traditionally never having a rank higher than the one he held in the British military, so when we actually did need those ranks because practicality, they just bumped him up.
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 262d
A reanimated body couldn't be worse at governing than our current administration.
NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 262d
Zombie Washington probably wouldn't/ couldn't rape children, so yes. I'll give it to you.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 261d
Pretty sure Washington oversaw the rape of many many slaves, assuming he didn't participate himself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_and_slavery#Interracial_sexual_relations
NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 261d
Your phrasing there is intentionally misleading.
The wiki you link discusses 20 people of obviously mixed race, with half? of those likely parentages seeming coercive. 'Many many' sounds like dozens.
I guess you mean that the number is rapes likely far exceeds the number of people conceived from rapes? The wiki also mentions guests expecting sexual gratification from slaves, but not whether or not those expectations were met. "Overseeing" any activity, kind of implies you're managing said activity, seeing it through to it's completion. Looking the other way would certainly be complicit, but it's not the same thing as commanding and ensuring those rapes happened.
Also, I set the bar intentionally low for zombie Washington. Child rape was the bar. There's no amount of revision of American history that has lowered Washington to Trump levels of evil yet. And I further wrote couldn't rape kids with the expectation that zombie dicks probably fall off.
So anyway, zombie Washington still gets my vote over Trump.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 261d
I'm not sure that replacing a racist with a literal enslaver would be much of an improvement.
ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 16 pts · 262d
“No kings”
SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 261d
Just generals
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 262d
He missed the opportunity to leave a standing order to kill any president that ordered illegal orders.
teddypolice@feddit.org · 11 pts · 262d
That's the Sandy Petersen of DOOM fame. Wicked.
The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world · 5 pts · 262d
Zombie game featuring Washington when?
cabillaud@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 261d
Usual US militarism
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 262d
Chat, is this real?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 262d
Yeah. We're just really grateful he got us an ohio
alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 262d
Definitely no cult of personality there™
guy@piefed.social · 7 pts · 262d
Americans obsessing over founding fathers? Get out of here
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 261d
USA has daddy issues and it shows so hard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion#United_States
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 9 pts · 262d
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 262d
They actually ignore history and background behind the founding of their country and how it isn't so grandiose.
But, the propaganda is so ingrained, it's literally tied to their personalities. And then they force it on every social platforms (because they own major platforms) and pretend their patriotism is different from the ones in North Korea and China.
It's SAD
amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 262d
if the zombie apocalypse ever happens, there will be a lot of Black people he owned wanting to play football with his decapitated head
ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 261d
Do zombies follow rules of engagement and chain of command?
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 262d
Cripes. Wait until the demented rapist hears that. New EO incoming.
PugJesus@piefed.social · 6 pts · 262d
Oh God, we put the enemy in charge of our own military, our brains are doomed
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 262d
I doubt there’s that much left of him apart from the dentures.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 262d
It must be nice to have zombie Washington on your side.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 261d
Maybe if your skin is pale enough...
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 261d
That sounds just weird as hell
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 262d
only a necromancer would be able ressurect george washington.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 262d
Only a necro-romancer would be able to lay him back to rest.
Hupf@feddit.org · 3 pts · 262d
Only a neck-romancer would be afraid of Abraham Lincoln
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 261d
Only a neko-romancer would be fine eating cat food.
Hupf@feddit.org · 1 pts · 261d
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 262d
So in the 41st century, George Washington will be the God-Emperor of Mankind and the Omnissiah.
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 262d
Zombie Washington sees hears and knows all
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 262d
Damn, nice to see a Sandy Petersen post somewhere other than !rts@reddthat.com.
Zagorath@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 262d
::: spoiler Transcription A Tweet by Sandy Petersen @#SandyofCthulhu
[A photo of George Washington, edited so he has blood stains around the neck, a partly-healed wound on his forehead with the stains of blood dripping down from it, and unnatural eyes, so he appears as a zombie.] :::
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 262d
We should just make a 10 Star Ultra General rank just for him so we don't have to keep upping it every time. That should buy plenty of breathing room.
kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 262d
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 261d
That means the military is still run by enslaver trash. Still worships enslaver trash. No surprise we live in a fascist hellscape.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion