the military-industrial complex at work

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orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 120 pts · 264d (8 replies)

The Dems should be blocking all votes like the GOP did under Obama. Fuck them.

crusa187@lemmy.ml · 70 pts · 264d (3 replies)

Unfortunately that’s not their job. They are bribed to ensure NDAA always goes through. Voter sentiment on yet another war for oil be damned.

Until we stop the legalized bribery this will not change.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 264d (2 replies)

Evidently voter sentiment isn't strong enough to vote for someone else!

Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 1 pts · 263d (1 reply)

Ah yes, the candidate fron tge other party who voted yes.

explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 262d

TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 264d

ABWD at work

alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 264d (2 replies)
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HK65@sopuli.xyz · 25 pts · 264d

The US is going all Russia on them, airspace violations, stealing ships and stuff

finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 263d

Yes, the USA has been bombing civilian ships off the coast of Venezuela and just the other day captured an oil tanker ship. It's actually among the reasons stated for Pete Hegseth's upcoming Impeachment vote.

KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 108 pts · 264d (9 replies)

The list of votes is here

This is far from an appearance issue. 18 Republicans also opposed the budget. If every Democrat had joined the 18 Republicans in saying no, this budget would not have been approved. Every politician -- Democrat or not -- who approved this budget needs to be voted out, no questions (if we get the chance). Primary the Democrats who voted "Yea".

"There's always money for bombs" but $900 Billion is absurd; and Democrats are screwing everyone over by encouraging this war. We do not want MAGA to have Wartime Powers. We do not want JD Vance, Stephen Miller, and Mike Johnson to have Wartime Powers.

supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 35 pts · 264d (5 replies)

Thank you for linking this, as this is indeed enraging but my oh my this is data gore if I have ever seen it...

Am I looking at a spreadsheet with the front panel unscrewed leaving all the wires hanging out or something?

some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 264d

Good Lord, what a day to have eyes.

alt_xa_23@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 264d

Wow, that is one of the worst diagrams I've seen in quite a while.

Rooty@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 263d

I move my mechanized infantry from hex 3042 to hex 4035 for 6VP

anugeshtu@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 263d (1 reply)

Is this Minesweeper?

yakko@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 263d

Similar number of red flags on the map anyway

beetus@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 264d

18 Republicans also opposed the budget. If every Democrat had joined the 18 Republicans in saying no, this budget would not have been approved

This is usually by design to protect risky seats and give the impression that they were opposed for political points. In essence those 18 Republicans are only enabled to vote no because they know Dems are supporting this passing. If more Dems voted no, less Republicans would have.

Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 264d

Bluth: there's always money to bomb Afghanistan, Michael

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 264d

No, we’re not allowed to criticize Democrats on Lemmy. It automatically makes you Russian MAGA.

Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 80 pts · 264d

This bill also removed the right to repair requirement for military contracts. So if that $100 million jet from Lockheed martin breaks then we have to pay them whatever they want to fix it.

This creates a great incentive for the military contractors to build quality durable hardware ...

Deceptichum@quokk.au · 50 pts · 264d
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Avicenna@programming.dev · 24 pts · 264d (3 replies)

Not surprising, about %50 of democrats are impostors. They would easily switch to republican party if they riskrd losing their seats.

Deceptichum@quokk.au · 11 pts · 264d
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Flamekebab@piefed.social · 10 pts · 264d

There's a reason we scoff at the notion of "far left" in US politics. Their options are right wing and fascist.

Montagge@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 264d

You forget how conservative alot of democrats are and have been for decades.

BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 264d (2 replies)

Guess US needs more oil huh

Saapas@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 264d
mtpender@piefed.social · 4 pts · 264d

"Nah, I heard oil... THAT SHIT MINE!"

givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 264d (5 replies)

Squares and Rectangles....

Every Republican is a corrupt politician, but not ever corrupt politician is a Republican.

The logical solution is getting rid of corrupt politicians regardless of party.

the_q@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 264d (4 replies)
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SoupBrick@pawb.social · 4 pts · 264d (3 replies)

If you are living in the US, you exist under that system.

So maybe do whatever your plan is (anarchism, accelerationism, socialism) WHILE using the pre-existing system?

explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 264d

If one's plan is accelerationism, then maybe it's best to not do that plan.

the_q@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 264d (1 reply)
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SoupBrick@pawb.social · 3 pts · 264d

Damn, you sure made a lot of assumptions off of someone asking US citizens to make use of their privilege to vote.

You know there are multiple ways to affect change and you don't have to choose just one, right?

ininewcrow@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 264d (1 reply)

The House of Representatives is basically the Board of Directors for the American Military Industrial Complex

aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 264d

That implies they hold influence and aren’t just purchased pawns

theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 264d

Imperialism has always been bipartisan.

gustofwind@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 264d

Dems gonna dem

protist@mander.xyz · 11 pts · 264d (3 replies)

I want to know why those 18 Republicans voted against it

subterfuge@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 264d

They didn’t receive sufficient contributions from the military industrial complex?

Montagge@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 264d

Just grabbing the first nay on the list which is Eli Crane. He appears to be a nationalist, which would make sense why he voted no. Still an undeserving piece of shit and a waste of limited resources.

https://eliforarizona.com/issues-eli-crane/

finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 263d

Maybe they wanted a version of the bill with more money and weapons to Israel?

lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com · 11 pts · 264d

Needs link to source.


Isn't this the spending authorization bill they pass every year since 1961? It's not specifically about Venezuela.

Notably among Democrats, it's mostly the New Democrat Coalition (older, moderate, Clinton era 3rd way) voting for this & the Congressional Progressive Caucus (newer, liberal, progressive) voting against it. They're a big tent party.

Vote New Democrat Coalition Congressional Progressive Caucus
Yea 62 22
Nay 18 59
DandomRude@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 264d

Such a wicked nation

Bosht@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 263d (3 replies)

I've lost all hope in this shithole country.

DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 263d

stay out of spite, and start organizing

DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 263d

have you been studying in socialist theory? if so, then is it okay i can have some tips on making studying socialist theory easy and fun?

DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 263d

time to organize

LodeMike@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 264d (1 reply)

Democrats REALLY wanting to loose midterms, huh?..

Deceptichum@quokk.au · 7 pts · 264d
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fodor@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 263d (1 reply)

jfc all it takes is a fake war for the corporate Dems to throw everything away ... terrible

Formfiller@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 263d

Because they get filthy rich on no bid contracts and insider trading just ask Pelosi

TronBronson@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 263d (2 replies)

I mean that’s unfortunately just the normal military budget lol. There’s no extra money in there for a war. That’s the peace time budget.

Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz · 5 pts · 263d (1 reply)

"Peace"

TronBronson@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 263d

peace(and a couple forever wars, covert ops, and constant posturing)

hamid@crazypeople.online · 8 pts · 263d

I'm sad I'm still sometimes surprised at the depravity and shittyness of the US government and their violent, corrupt, evil handlers. They are the most evil people on earth running the most evil empire the world has ever seen. May they all burn in hell.

plyth@feddit.org · 6 pts · 264d (2 replies)

Are they just going to bomb to make life miserable in Venezuela? There are not enough troops for an invasion.

finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 263d (1 reply)

Hopefully Trump doesn't have the power to do any of that regardless of the minor YoY increase in military budget on display here.

plyth@feddit.org · 2 pts · 263d

If you don't know:

The War Powers Resolution requires the president to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 60 days, with a further 30-day withdrawal period, without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution

Someone8765210932@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 263d

Oh, now the MIC does something? Strange, they seemed to be oddly quiet when it comes to Ukraine. I'm always a bit surprised the MIC isn't all in on sending both old military stock and newly developed stuff there for testing and recognition. So much money to be made. It can also be quite the advertisement if your 30-year-old tanks can crush the mighty modern Russian army. Including the invincible T14 Armata shown off in 2015.

This was their times to shine, and even the most hardened anti-war peace lovers would have been forced to thank them for it.

Fmstrat@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 264d

Does this belong in this community? Honestly curious. Fits the format, but not the theme.

Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 263d

Well there was funding for Israel in it you see, so they had to.

Naich@lemmings.world · 2 pts · 264d

It's not like there's anything better to spend the money on.

P00ptart@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 264d

I wonder how much he's getting paid to for this or if this is all a favor for the previous "campaign contributions"?

PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 263d (1 reply)

This bill getting funding is a SOP vote. No one dares not pass this.

finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 263d

94 Democrats dared, but thats under the assumption that a different bill would take its place.

Stefan_S_from_H@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 264d
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ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net · -1 pts · 263d

Yes, it's the same party.

Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 263d

Iraq wars wetr a lot of horrible things....But oh my god did it realize efficiency. Iraq went from a poorly producing oil country to the fourth highest oil producer in the world.

DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 263d (1 reply)

does anyone have any tips on making studying socialist/communist theory easy and fun as well?

finitebanjo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 263d

Yeah, building upon a theory of winning local elections to enact change into a democratic socialism with minimal bloodshed and without any risk of authoritarians taking control. 100x more palatable than Tankie dribble for the general public.

DylanMc6@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 263d

time to organize